Atticus/Adam Ant Log

Things to note about AI management:

# It took 3 years for Adam to think having a web page for the shard was even worth while, and turned down numerous offers to have one made for him.

# Adam not only does nothing to seek out players that should be banned from the shard (for severe offenses) but will blatantly ignore their existance if he comes across knowledge of their where-abouts. (note: I 1 time witnessed Adam interigating Coby Seagram in jail for yet another exploit (this is after the EasyUO scripting and multiple castle break ins). While talking to him, adam specifically asked if he was in fact Coby Seagram, and Coby openly admitted to being him. Adam then agreed to let him go. After adam said he was going to let him coby, Coby willingly admitted to abusing yet ANOTHER bug (not the one he was in jail for, one adam knew nothing about) involving vendors and more or less generating mass amounts of gold from them (with no work)... adam still let him go.

# Adam has -zero- plans to fix the shard. He expects a couple cross shard challenges and [new] to fix everything, and has stated any larger plans are nearly impossible.
# There's just about nobody left on staff (everyone has left. Mostly all due to the same reasons I left).

# He will not hire more seers.


There's plenty more in there! But the gist of it is: Adam is completely incapable of making even the most simple and blindingly obvious decisions and Angel Island will never go anywhere because of him, this is why I stopped wasting my time trying to help him, I suggest you all do the same.





Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon May 21 09:07:50 2007
[09:07] Adam Ant: Good morning!
[09:07] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Mon May 21 09:07:50 2007.
[09:08] Atticus: eh, sort of
[09:08] Atticus: got woke up at 7:00 am by screaming 3 year olds ;)
[09:08] Atticus: it's 9 now, and they're still screaming :P
[09:08] Adam Ant: heh, glad I'm passed that point
[09:08] Adam Ant: eww
[09:08] Adam Ant: sorry
[09:08] Atticus: i'll live ;) they're just playing.
[09:09] Adam Ant: hey, when you get some time, could youy see that the playguide gets updated wrt: 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/518649/page/1#Post518649)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/518649/page/1#Post518649
[09:09] Atticus: can do.
[09:10] Atticus: you want me to include the upcoming changes?
[09:10] Adam Ant: nah .. lets wait until the check is in the bank .. 
[09:11] Atticus: maybe a seperate "upcoming changes" chapter? including faction stuff, the inn changes, etc.
[09:11] Atticus: ok
[09:15] Atticus: ok, hows this sound? I'm going to combine the 2 storage upgrade chapters (making it clear that they're 2 different systems) and put the lockable public houses in with the exsisting housing thread with a link to the storage upgrade chapter?
[09:23] Adam Ant: sure, sounds good. 

[09:24] Adam Ant: downplay the taxable option and be very clear they are separate
[09:24] Adam Ant: I don't want people to steerclear of the upgrade option because they are confused and think they have ongoing maintenence
[09:25] Atticus: ok.
[09:25] Atticus: I'll toss you a link when i'm done. should only be a couple minutes.
[09:25] Adam Ant: ty
[09:36] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=518668&page=0#Post518668)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=518668&page=0#Post518668
[09:38] Adam Ant: hmm, well you made this sort of an update instead of just upodating the existing text. 
for instance .. the first description of public houses says you cannot lock the doors, where the 'update' says you can..
[09:39] Adam Ant: It's not important to show and upgrade history here in the playguide, just correct errors in light of new changes
[09:39] Atticus: ah, missed that. sorry
[09:39] Adam Ant: np
[09:39] Adam Ant: We use the Latest Updates to show history, but the guides should just be 'kept up to date'
[09:40] Atticus: right. i actually took something out of the housing post about lockboxes in private houses only, i missed the door thing.
[09:40] Adam Ant: Also, and the last paragraph of zara's post, the description of deco containers may work there :)
[09:43] Atticus: ahhh, good idea.
[09:44] Atticus: what are the commands? "i wish to make this decorative" "i wish to make this functional"?
[09:44] Adam Ant: yes sir
[09:50] Atticus: all set.
[09:50] Adam Ant: ty
[09:50] Adam Ant: the inn idea is neat huh?
[09:51] Adam Ant: I sould see some players really getting into that :)
[09:51] Atticus: yea, i'm hoping to use it to setup a training area for newbs
[09:51] Adam Ant: ooh .. free room and board for NEW
[09:51] Atticus: I tried it before with the current system, but it lead to some pretty loot free, unhappy newbies :P
[09:52] Adam Ant: yep, this should work a bit better .. however there are still consequences for carelessness
[09:53] Atticus: yea, i'll have to try it and see how it goes.
[09:53] Atticus: people will still be able to kill them, but maybe if they cant loot the newbie there will be less of it.
[09:54] Atticus: that reminds me, did you see my post about promoting the chat feature to newbies as a way to compensate for lack of counselors?
[09:56] Adam Ant: yes... it's in staff?
[09:57] Atticus: yea, i think i put it in the [new] & [young] thread.
[09:58] Adam Ant: kk .. just busy with housing and the ghostcam issue .. we'll get there 
[10:00] Atticus: the housing stuff has all been gold.
[10:00] Adam Ant: ah, you like?
[10:00] Atticus: very much so.
[10:01] Atticus: i just gotta get gold to use some of it, but my methods of "coining" arn't really a good thing for the shard right now :P
[11:37] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Mon May 21 11:37:59 2007.
[12:18] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Mon May 21 12:18:52 2007.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon May 21 18:32:12 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon May 21 18:42:17 2007
[18:42] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=518911&page=0#Post518911)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=518911&page=0#Post518911
[18:42] Atticus: reading it now.
[18:42] Atticus: i'll log in in a sec.
[18:42] Adam Ant: kk, I'm off for a few hours .. see you
[18:42] Atticus: later
[18:43] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Mon May 21 18:43:01 2007.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon May 21 19:12:23 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue May 22 10:38:10 2007
[10:38] Adam Ant: do you know much about running vendors, and their fees, etc?
[10:38] Atticus: not really, no. what do you need to know?
[10:39] Adam Ant: that's ok .. I need an expert to help someone that had his vendor poof .. I think it ran out of money
[10:39] Adam Ant: I'll ask lily
[10:39] Adam Ant: here, whst did you say in that thread thaat pixie deleted?
[10:39] Atticus: i said "down with multi clienting!" ;)
[10:40] Adam Ant: haha
[10:40] Atticus: ghost system seems to be working really well.
[10:40] Adam Ant: like it?
[10:40] Atticus: yea. i think it would be a good idea to add boats to the blind list though, especially if it's going to work with corpse decay.
[10:41] Atticus: with the new changes, since you can only control a boat as a ghost if the key is on your corpse, this wont really hurt anything.
[10:42] Atticus: if not, people will still ghost cam the pirate champ.
[10:46] Adam Ant: oh, good point.. please att that scenario to the thread .. I'll add that
[10:46] Atticus: will do.
[10:49] Adam Ant: hey, you know the latest mass email I sent with the upgradable storage and whatnot?
[10:49] *** You have been disconnected. Tue May 22 10:49:06 2007.
[10:49] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue May 22 10:49:14 2007.
[10:49] Atticus: lost conn.
[10:49] Atticus: no, i'll check it.
[10:49] Adam Ant: ah, well it was a couple weels ago
[10:49] Adam Ant: weeks
[10:50] Atticus: upgradable storage, breeding, townships, static housing?
[10:50] Adam Ant: I was going to have you update the news page with the info in it like pixie did last time
[10:50] Adam Ant: yes
[10:50] Atticus: sure, how do i do that?
[10:50] Atticus: is the news page linked to the news forum?
[10:51] Adam Ant: I *think* you just make a post in the News forum(?) and it is displayed as news
[10:51] Atticus: ok
[10:51] Adam Ant: have a look .. look to see where/how pixie made that last post
[10:51] Adam Ant: I think each each thread is a new news story
[10:51] Adam Ant: let me know if you need access
[10:51] Atticus: gotta give me access to that board
[10:52] Adam Ant: kk, name?
[10:52] Atticus: Atticus[NEW]
[10:52] Adam Ant: no no .. silly
[10:52] Adam Ant: the board name :P
[10:52] Adam Ant: lol
[10:52] Atticus: News
[10:52] Atticus: in the players guide
[10:53] Adam Ant: ty
[10:54] Adam Ant: okay, lily's making the update
[10:55] Atticus: great
[10:55] Atticus: say, do you have any idea how long it will be before you take on more counselors?
[10:55] Adam Ant: I'd like you to post 'big news' on the news page .. doesn't need to be every day or anything .. but stuff of significance
[10:56] Adam Ant: you interested?
[10:56] Atticus: yea, very.
[10:56] Atticus: i think i'd enjoy it, and be good at it. i know a lot about the shard and game in general.
[10:56] Atticus: including differences between our era and others
[10:56] Adam Ant: lil says you're a mod in News .. says you have been for a few weeks, .. can you please recheck real quick?
[10:57] Atticus: "You do not have permssions to create a new topic on this forum. 
 
 Please use your back button to return to the previous page."
[10:57] Atticus: yea, it is showing me as a mod in the bottom, too.
[10:58] Atticus: i can edit posts in there, and manage topics, but I can't make new posts.
[10:58] Adam Ant: yep, I bet it's restricted to Admins
[10:58] Atticus: there should be an option in there
[10:58] Atticus: to be able to only give access to certain people, instead of specific access levels
[10:59] Adam Ant: I'll look into it..
[10:59] Adam Ant: in the mean time .. I'll ask lily to go train you as a counselor...
[11:00] Atticus: really? sweet
[11:00] Atticus: thanks
[11:00] Adam Ant: before we givbe you the robe tho.. I would like you to spend a few minutes and reread the two agreements in the staff forum
[11:00] Adam Ant: if not signed, please sign both f them
[11:00] Atticus: sure thing
[11:02] Adam Ant: those are like zero-tolerance policies .. no messing around there 
[11:03] Atticus: ok, understood.
[11:08] Adam Ant: okay, you now have posting rights in that forum
[11:09] Atticus: ok. I'll get it posted when i'm done with the second staff rules post
[11:10] Adam Ant: okay, and lily says.. 
 
lily (9:08 AM) :  
well..we need ACTIVE counselors..we have quite a few.. 
and i'd love to train him..he will be great 

[11:10] Adam Ant: lily=gilah
[11:10] Atticus: sweeett
[11:10] Atticus: i've wanted tto be a counselor for a long time now
[11:11] Adam Ant: well, we both think you will be good
[11:11] Atticus: thanks ;)
[11:11] Adam Ant: you will need a name!!
[11:12] Adam Ant: okay, I'd like you to ICQ lily .. do you have her ICQ?
[11:12] Atticus: yea, she actually just ICQed me
[11:12] Adam Ant: okay, put her at the top of the loop for all ingame stuff .. she's your boss :P
[11:12] Atticus: got it.
[11:13] Adam Ant: by the way .. welcome aboard man. 
You are hard working and it's really great to have all this help. 
Thank you
[11:14] Atticus: np, i like helping out.
[11:14] Atticus: I wish i knew how to code since thats probably what you need the most, but i dont know anything about all that.
[11:17] Adam Ant: no, actually it's what I need least .. what I need is what you are doing :)
[11:17] Atticus: ah, perfect!
[11:17] Adam Ant: the dev team is pretty good .. we need admin type stuffs
[11:18] Atticus: well, like i said before. I'm all for helping gilah with the admining of the boards. That way she could have more time to get back to seering(if thats what she wants)
[11:18] Atticus: after i got the hang of this, that is.
[11:19] Adam Ant: *nods*
[11:37] Atticus: news page is up.
[11:37] Atticus: In the future, should i just transfer the emails you send out tot he news page?
[11:41] Adam Ant: we'll talk about it a bit later .. I'm off to work .. see you
[11:41] Atticus: later
[11:41] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Tue May 22 11:41:30 2007.
[12:12] *** You have been disconnected. Tue May 22 12:12:27 2007.
[12:38] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue May 22 12:38:36 2007.
[13:04] Adam Ant: if you could ...  
 
Eliminate the closing from your news post as it sounds line an email.. 
i.e.,
[13:04] Adam Ant: Oh, and as always, the PvP on AI is simply the best. 
 
 
 
Angel Island, what UO was meant to be. 
 
 
 
Adam Ant 
 
and the Angel Island team.  
 
 

[13:04] Atticus: ?
[13:04] Adam Ant: Also, if you could put the picture of the house inline, that would be better
[13:05] Adam Ant: the News page
[13:05] Atticus: ah, just missed your request. sure
[13:05] Adam Ant: you may need to adjust emails before slapping them up as news
[13:05] Adam Ant: so that they look like news :)
[13:06] Atticus: ok. do you want me to link to the static housing forum, also?
[13:06] Atticus: or a post in that forum in particular?
[13:09] Adam Ant: what ever you think best :)
[13:11] Atticus: ok. I'll link to the general forum, but you might want to ask ronk to remove his 2 stickies.
[13:12] Atticus: the 2 you posted are more clear, and theres no need for doubles.
[13:12] Adam Ant: links?
[13:12] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/76/page/1)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/76/page/1
[13:13] Atticus: top 4 posts in there. they seem repetitive
[13:14] Atticus: ronks first one is opionative, but doesn't seem like it should be stickied either way.
[13:16] Atticus: opinionative*
[13:29] Adam Ant: did lily ever get withg you to make you a counselor?
[13:29] Atticus: yup;)
[13:29] Atticus: handled my first page and everything
[13:29] Adam Ant: ooh, what's your name?
[13:29] Atticus: Felix! ;)
[13:29] Adam Ant: nice!
[13:29] Adam Ant: do you know HTML at all?
[13:29] Atticus: Counselor Felix. It has a ring to it
[13:29] Atticus: nope, i hear it's pretty simple.
[13:30] Atticus: plus, my brother does the web page for his university, and i believe he has some program that makes it incredibly simple
[13:30] Atticus: to make web pages
[13:30] Atticus: I could look into getting that from him and fiddling around with it, if you want.
[13:31] Adam Ant: nah, that's ok .. I was just going to have you update the staff roster in the staff forum
[13:31] Atticus: ah, i was going to make a web page for the shard :P
[13:31] Atticus: staff roster looks like something i could do with MS word though.
[13:31] Atticus: you can convert tables like that into html format with the click of a button.
[13:32] Adam Ant: well, maybe .. but you would need to save to HTML as that's an HTML insert there
[13:32] Atticus: I'll look into it, i'm pretty sure it's doable though.
[14:04] Adam Ant: okay, here's what we'l do
[14:05] Adam Ant: I would like lily to continue on as board admin, but I also want you to have access to all the stuff you need so ..
[14:05] Adam Ant: it makes sense to give you 'super mod' access for now...
[14:05] Atticus: ok
[14:06] Adam Ant: I'll make you a board Admin, but I'll keep your status 'green' like a mod .. 
[14:06] Adam Ant: you will be our first 'super mod'
[14:06] Adam Ant: :)
[14:06] Atticus: so my duties would simply be board management? and nothing to do with the mods?
[14:06] Adam Ant: for now yes.. I want to work closly with lily on this
[14:07] Adam Ant: no stepping on toes here, we need to tread lightly!
[14:07] Atticus: righto.
[14:09] Adam Ant: your first duty will be to work with ronk to cleanup those posts .. 
[14:10] Atticus: yes! Just what i've always wanted! ;)
[14:10] Atticus: j/k. I'll have him compile everything i need to clump those 4 posts into 2 posts.
[14:10] Atticus: then i'll do just that.
[14:13] Atticus: do i already have the access and am good to go?
[14:18] Adam Ant: well, I'm trying to figure out the color of that green
[14:24] Atticus: If the color is a problem because of the community, i can always just create another account.
[14:25] Atticus: actually, nm, it would probably be easier to keep it to atticus.
[14:25] Adam Ant: no, that's not it. But you will need to adopt a totally professional style .. no arguing with players, etc .. all that stuff
[14:25] Adam Ant: oh, and no arguing with Kadul :P
[14:26] Atticus: lol, right on. Kadulls pretty much dead anyways.
[14:26] Atticus: on the forums, at least. His presence brings too much negativity.flaming, so after i'm done with event day he will likely never been seen
[14:26] Atticus: or at very least hardly ever be seen.
[14:27] Atticus: I actually plan to make another account to start using the comment on discussions/suggestions instead of using atticus and going back to having atticus be purely a frontman for [new].
[14:30] Adam Ant: Okay, you're set .. your color should still be greed, but the little flag will be 'A' 
Lily hase been informed, and um... yeah, you're set
[14:30] Adam Ant: You know about how to access the control panel?
[14:30] Atticus: it's green but it's not mod green, don't know if that's what you were going for though.
[14:31] Atticus: yea, theres a button at the top of my screen.
[14:31] Adam Ant: you sure it's not mod green? do a refresh
[14:31] Atticus: ah, yea. now it is.
[14:32] Adam Ant: okay .. be careful in the control panel... you have full access .. ask me if you have any questions...
[14:32] Atticus: do you mind if i try fiddling with how sticky posts show?
[14:33] Atticus: try to highlight them, that is, so it's easier to tell where the stickies stop.
[14:33] Adam Ant: for the staff forum, have a look at the HTML inserts .. that's where you should find the staff roster .. just keep a clean copy of the original incase you have any problmes
[14:33] Atticus: ok
[14:34] Adam Ant: are there options for sticky posts?
[14:34] Atticus: there might be, i've seen UBB forums with them highlighted
[14:34] Adam Ant: it may be a style
[14:34] Adam Ant: which we have one loaded already
[14:36] Atticus: I'll look for it and let ya know.
[14:36] Adam Ant: kk
[14:58] Atticus: Did you remove those stickies in the static house forum? I can't see them.
[14:59] Adam Ant: nope .. I told ronk I asked you to help me clean them up .. maybe he got the wrong idea and wanted to do it himself?
[15:00] Atticus: looks that way.
[15:00] Atticus: I hope he didn't just delete them, i could have cropped everything i needed then just compiled it into less posts.
[15:00] Adam Ant: Adam Ant (12:37 PM) :  
I've asked Atticus to help cleanup some of the forums, and he pointed out we have some redundant stikies and info in our housing forum. I asked him to work with you directly on cleaning that up. 
Ronk (12:38 PM) :  
ok 
Adam Ant (1:00 PM) :  
did you clean up those stickies? 
Ronk (1:00 PM) :  
yup, unstickied yours and moved the contents into my one 'guide' thread 
Ronk (1:00 PM) :  
:-) 
 

[15:00] Atticus: less threads*
[15:06] Atticus: ok, i'll still PM him to see if he can touch it up more. now the 1 post seems cluttered somehow.
[15:06] Adam Ant: okay
[15:47] Atticus: where do i go to manage the staff insert in the staff forum?
[15:47] Adam Ant: there is a Forums secrion, select the forum.. then the HTML Inserts tab
[15:47] Adam Ant: (or something close to that)
[15:57] Atticus: well, that's all easy enough to understand. I got me all updated.
[15:57] Adam Ant: good deal :)
[15:57] Adam Ant: yeah, the message board software isn't too bad
[15:59] Atticus: nah, looks easy enough. I don't think i'll need to know anything complicated, at least. But i setup a ubb forum account to ask questions there if i need it.
[16:00] Adam Ant: yep,m there pretty helpful.. I've posted there a bunch
[16:00] Atticus: I didn't know what to call my forum title though, so i left that out.
[16:01] Adam Ant: what is it now?
[16:01] Atticus: Felix (Atticus) - CS/CO
[16:01] Adam Ant: I mean your message board title?
[16:02] Atticus: i get the admin tag
[16:02] Atticus: but my duties arnt nearly as wide as other admin
[16:02] Adam Ant: yes...
[16:02] Adam Ant: maybe board manager?
[16:02] Adam Ant: super moderator?
[16:03] Adam Ant: ;p
[16:03] Atticus: dun dun dun DUN, super MOD
[16:03] Atticus: nah, i'll do board manager
[17:29] Adam Ant: when you have some time, if you could retest the new features please 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519323&page=1#Post519323)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519323&page=1#Post519323
[17:33] Atticus: ok, testing now. I'll post in 15 when i have results.
[19:03] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Tue May 22 19:03:58 2007.
[22:55] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue May 22 22:55:05 2007.
[22:58] Adam Ant: you around?
[23:01] Atticus: off and on
[23:01] Atticus: whats up?
[23:02] Adam Ant: what is that thing? 
[23:02] Atticus: what thing?
[23:03] Adam Ant: sorry, some weird computer glitch on ICQ..
[23:03] Atticus: ah, ok. ya, i don't see it.
[23:03] Adam Ant: you know how we call testers to TC to test stuff?
[23:03] Atticus: ya
[23:03] Atticus: strictly confidential.
[23:03] Adam Ant: wanna post one?
[23:03] Atticus: sure.
[23:03] Adam Ant: no, public
[23:04] Atticus: ah, ok.
[23:04] Atticus: on the ghost blindness?
[23:04] Adam Ant: call to all testers ...  
no sir .. that will not be made public until publish ;p
[23:05] Atticus: well, sure. what needs testing?
[23:06] Adam Ant: I've created 'door rekeying contracts' and they are spawning at WBB on TC. 
I want players to test them .. test everything you can think of... 
- can you use them on someone elses house? 
- does the deed get deleted ok/ 
- can you reyey a cat? 
- Do other locks work after the individual ddoor is rekeyed? 
- etc .. 

[23:06] Adam Ant: basically all you can think to test
[23:06] Adam Ant: (remember, this is for the inn concept)
[23:07] Adam Ant: - only owner (test friend/co-owner)
[23:09] Atticus: what are the basics on how it's supposed to work?
[23:10] Atticus: use contract > target door > get a key that only works on that door?
[23:10] Adam Ant: yep yep
[23:10] Atticus: ok
[23:10] Adam Ant: oh, also have them note the messages .. clear? spelling? :p
[23:11] Atticus: ok
[23:11] Atticus: i'd suggest a dif name/graphic though. maybe a locksmith toolkit
[23:12] Atticus: a contract to make a key doesn't seem to work in terms of RP
[23:12] Adam Ant: well a toolkit sounds like a 'thing'
[23:12] Adam Ant: well the idea is it's a workorder for a tinker
[23:12] Atticus: ok
[23:12] Adam Ant: (a tinker to come perform the work)
[23:12] Adam Ant: but I'm open to suggestions
[23:13] Atticus: that makes sense
[23:13] Atticus: takes some schooling to be a locksmith ;)
[23:13] Adam Ant: right .. that's the idea
[23:13] Adam Ant: it's a workorder for a professional to do tha work :)
[23:14] Adam Ant: I could have had tinkers do it .. but I wanted the gold sink
[23:14] Adam Ant: so it's basically a labor contract
[23:20] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519419&page=0#Post519419)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519419&page=0#Post519419
[23:22] Atticus: ok, it's late. i forgot to post how it's supposed to work lol
[23:23] Adam Ant: very nice ty. 
And by the way, you need not credit me in these typs of things .. you can from you 
(next time)
[23:24] Atticus: it said "i created" and i didn't want to change it to "we" since i didn't do it.
[23:24] Atticus: i will next time though
[23:25] Adam Ant: yes.. you saying "we" here is appropriate ...  
You be a part of the team man :)
[23:25] Adam Ant: most all posts you will be makinbg are "we" now .. we rarely take individual credit
[23:25] Atticus: awwww shucks
[23:25] Atticus: ok
[23:26] Atticus: do you want me to change my title then? so its more clear and people don't verbally wtf pwn me.
[23:27] Adam Ant: what's your title?
[23:27] Atticus: "the renowned"
[23:28] Adam Ant: just set it to moderator for now
[23:28] Adam Ant: we'll up it to admin after you've setteled in for a bit
[23:29] Atticus: ok
[23:29] Atticus: added the bit about usage, btw.
[23:44] Atticus: oh, someone asked me a good question today.
[23:44] Atticus: say i buy a bunch of lock boxes to temporarily hold some stuff
  when i no longer need the extra lock boxes, i let their contracts expire - hwo do i know which lock boxes disappear and which ones don't?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed May 23 01:05:50 2007
[01:05] Adam Ant: You don't .. that's why it's important release the unused ones .. once you drop the lockbox count to the core level, no more will be released.
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[15:55] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519599&page=0#Post519599)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=519599&page=0#Post519599
[17:27] Atticus: Looks good. I'll add it to the playguide.
[17:27] Adam Ant: kk
[17:52] Atticus: n/m, silk already got it. hoozah!
[17:52] Adam Ant: :)
[17:52] Adam Ant: you guys are the best .. heh
[17:52] Atticus: ... shucks
[18:21] Atticus: i had a page a minute ago that might have something to do with the blind bug from earlier. not sure though. I posted it in the staff forum.
[18:23] Adam Ant: if they said they were blind, juts get me .. I can reset them .. it was a bug that has been fixed
[18:23] Adam Ant: basically...
[18:23] Adam Ant: if you resed BEFORE going blind, you would still go blind :P
[18:24] Adam Ant: (I blame QA!)
[18:29] Atticus: pretty sure he was. He can still see me, but i assume you didn't add staff to the blind list.
[18:29] Atticus: his names Spider in game.
[18:30] Adam Ant: yep, I'm staying on for a bit to handle these guys .. just page me if you have similar page
[18:30] Adam Ant: or ICQ me
[18:30] Atticus: ok, i'll keep an eye out
[18:30] Adam Ant: ty
[18:49] Atticus: Anne Shirley at west brit bank is alive and blind.
[18:49] Adam Ant: kk, sec
[18:50] Adam Ant: she's good now
[19:28] Adam Ant: heh, no need to bump the testing thread .. it's been released :p
[19:28] Adam Ant: but it's fine
[19:29] Atticus: nowai?
[19:29] Atticus: sorry, i'm beat.
[19:29] Atticus: been painting a house all day.
[19:29] Adam Ant: ya, I tested it :)
[19:29] Adam Ant: and merged this morning
[19:29] Adam Ant: ah, come paint mine :P
[19:29] Adam Ant: I hate painting!
[19:29] Atticus: you're in california, right?
[19:29] Atticus: cuz you're paying for the ticket, room, meals, and beer, i'm down.
[19:29] Adam Ant: ya
[19:30] Adam Ant: hehe
[19:30] Atticus: hey, that'll wake me up
[19:30] Atticus: afk a sec
[19:30] Adam Ant: kk
[19:33] Atticus: ok, deleted my bump :P
[19:33] Atticus: sorry 'bout that.
[19:47] Atticus: Samual Jackson at skara bank needs some new eyeballs
[19:48] Adam Ant: omw
[19:49] Adam Ant: and by the way.. I'll be taking off later... You'll need to get Pixie ot Gilah or Taran to do a  
[set blind false 
on anyone I miss
[19:49] Atticus: ok.
[19:49] Atticus: [set blind false, got it.
[19:50] Adam Ant: yeah, but only GMs can do it
[19:50] Atticus: right
[19:50] Adam Ant: (I just helped that guy)
[19:51] Adam Ant: can you touch base with lily and ask her to be available and tell here what she needs to do
[19:51] Atticus: yup
[19:52] Adam Ant: kk, Rhi in an emergency, traran, lil, pix
[19:54] Atticus: plasma cant?
[19:54] Adam Ant: and in a real emergency .. killing them and resing them will also fix it .. but that can only be with their approval, and in a safe place (so they are not looted)
[19:55] Atticus: ok
[19:55] Adam Ant: hmm .. ya, I think he can too
[19:55] Atticus: i'll take them to jail to do that.
[19:55] Atticus: if need be
[19:55] Atticus: blasted! i don't have [kill ;(
[19:55] Adam Ant: =\
[19:56] Atticus: aww, or jailwraith ;(
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed May 23 22:49:28 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu May 24 10:50:52 2007
[10:51] Atticus: Howdy, you got a minute?
[10:53] Adam Ant: yep!
[10:55] Atticus: actually, i just post in staff forum. sorry :P
[10:57] Adam Ant: where?
[10:57] Atticus: sorry, typo. Meant to say "i'll post in staff forum"
[10:57] Atticus: making it now.
[10:57] Adam Ant: kk
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu May 24 12:01:44 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu May 24 13:01:19 2007
[13:02] Atticus: I've given up on the orcs to host an event for event day, so i'm starting to work out the schedule. I got some pretty good events without them, anyways. My question is, did you ever decide about moving the bob/fred stones for my event? I need to do the writeup for it.
[13:39] Adam Ant: I don't know .. sounds complicated .. lets talk later when I'm at work
[13:40] Adam Ant: why not Blue and Red and we put those by the dye tubs at Wrong?
[13:40] Atticus: not complicated. I just need you to move 2 guild stones into town. Me and the other host can take it from there.
[13:40] Adam Ant: well, I can do that :)
[13:40] Atticus: sweet
[13:40] Atticus: way sweet.
[13:41] Adam Ant: get me the exact dye tubs, and other garb (hats) and I'll spawn those too
[13:41] Atticus: Bob pink tub/robes
[13:41] Atticus: Fred yellow rub/dresses
[13:41] Atticus: tub*
[13:42] Adam Ant: right .. secure the exact tubs for me so I don't need to find out at the last minute
[13:42] Atticus: then me and comrade bob will put the people on the corresponding stones, and i'll run around town passing out bags of GEs ;)
[13:42] Atticus: ok, can do.
[13:43] Atticus: Bob/fred wars would make a cool automated event, btw ;)
[13:52] Adam Ant: yeah..
[13:52] Adam Ant: hmm
[13:52] Adam Ant: yes it would
[13:53] Atticus: Or you could just make me a seer and I can host them when ever :P
[13:54] Adam Ant: lets not get ahead of ourselves :p
[13:54] Atticus: lol
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu May 24 14:08:10 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri May 25 19:55:50 2007
[19:56] Atticus: can i bug you with 1 of my event requests real quick?
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri May 25 20:04:26 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri May 25 20:58:53 2007
[20:58] Adam Ant: what's up?
[20:58] *** Auto-response sent to Adam Ant: I am currently away from the computer.
[00:44] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Sat May 26 00:44:21 2007.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat May 26 07:30:12 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon May 28 22:46:51 2007
[22:47] Atticus: want me to add something about the server payment to the News section?
[22:47] Adam Ant: you are GOOD!
[22:47] Adam Ant: :D
[22:47] Atticus: hoozah!
[22:47] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=521155&page=0#Post521155)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=521155&page=0#Post521155
[22:47] Adam Ant: please
[22:48] Adam Ant: soon, I well send a mass email summarizing all the great stuff going down over the last couple months
[22:48] Atticus: ok, i'll just edit the exsisting post and add this at the top.
[22:49] Atticus: ok
[22:49] Atticus: want to wait off on your next email till i get event week finalized?
[22:49] Atticus: I'm looking at the week of june 3rd-10th
[22:50] Atticus: and will hopefully have it announced tomorrow or the next day.
[22:59] Adam Ant: sure.. I would like to get a confirmation on dragon breeding and static houses
[23:00] Atticus: Do you plan to prepay the server for another 3 years when this next 3 years is up?
[23:01] Atticus: Asking for the news section.
[23:03] Atticus: ar! and thanks for dropping the cash on the shard! It really is a lot of fun ;)
[23:06] Adam Ant: yep .. see .. It's a hobby.. and that relieves be from 'business' responsibility ;)
[23:07] Atticus: yup, like i used to say on kadull: AI is probably your ant farm.
[23:07] Atticus: and i gotta say, creating worlds seems like a pretty sweet hobby.
[23:08] Adam Ant: haha 'ant farm' .. yeah kinda .. + love 
[23:31] Atticus: portals updated.
[23:31] Adam Ant: :)
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue May 29 00:24:13 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue May 29 14:10:04 2007
[14:10] Adam Ant: "mays news" should be "May's news" :p
[14:10] Atticus: woops, i knew that!
[14:10] Atticus: i swear :P
[14:10] Adam Ant: :)
[14:13] Atticus: while i got you here, what do you think about staff getting on for the next server wars as part of event week?
[14:13] Atticus: Could beaf up some staff chars and let the players beat on us, while we beat on them.
[14:14] Atticus: If we did that, i'd make a note that the staff would be in a designated area, and by entering that area they risk being attacked.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue May 29 14:19:51 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue May 29 14:22:50 2007
[14:22] Adam Ant: well, there is no fun in beating up on super beings unless there is a reward, and there are no rewards for server wars... 
I don't know, I'm too busy to plan an event atm .. and 'beefed up' does not a plan make. 
I just don't see it as a worthwhile endeavor .. if I had a seer, yes .. but as things stand today, nope
[14:23] Atticus: bummer, makes sense though.
[14:24] Adam Ant: thanks you tho for digging for ideas :)
[14:24] Atticus: NP, let me know when i'm getting overzealous :P
[14:26] Adam Ant: alright :p
[14:27] Atticus: and keep me posted for when you're hiring seers. I really want to host some cow tipping tournaments :P
[14:28] Adam Ant: will do
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue May 29 14:35:21 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue May 29 15:02:18 2007
[15:03] Atticus: for the bob vs fred event, i can move the guildstones on felix. But what do i need to give you exactly for the uniform spawns?
[15:03] Atticus: Do i need to get you the hue value of the items? or can i just hand you properly dyed items in game?
[15:03] Adam Ant: hand me properly hues items
[15:04] Adam Ant: if you have Wrong Entrance as the starting place, we can use the tubs there
[15:04] Atticus: ok. just message me next time you log in the game.
[15:04] Atticus: i wanted to make it in a guarded zone so gank squads cant come through and pumble the newbie bobs/freds.
[15:06] Adam Ant: that's fine...
[15:06] Adam Ant: when will you move the stones?
[15:07] Atticus: well, i gotta decide if i'm going to or not now, since it turns out the host of the bob stone is red (duh) and wont be able to guild people if the stone is in town.
[15:07] Atticus: but if i do it will be the day or the day before the event... which is scheduled for....
[15:07] Adam Ant: you could use vesper, red friendly and still basic guarding
[15:07] Atticus: 1 week from today
[15:08] Atticus: i thought vesper was a kin zone?
[15:08] Adam Ant: it is
[15:08] Adam Ant: but they do not attack unless you are crim
[15:08] Atticus: SP town rules?
[15:08] Adam Ant: dunno
[15:09] Atticus: sounds like it... i never knew that. i'll tell comrade.
[15:09] Adam Ant: well, test it out first amd make sure it's what you want :p
[15:09] Atticus: reds can enter but they can't attack blues without getting guard whacked, right?
[15:12] Adam Ant: any crim action will result in any of the militia attacking (regulat NPCs) 
[15:12] Adam Ant: they are not guard str
[15:12] Adam Ant: so you don't want fighting in that town
[15:12] Adam Ant: may want to pick another spot
[15:13] Atticus: Would still benefit him to at least put his stone there, then people can flock back to britain.
[15:14] Atticus: i'll look around. I'll either put his stone in vesper or near the YEW abbey, so he can res quick if someone gets him.
[15:16] Adam Ant: kk
[15:29] Atticus: thanks. anywho, let me know next time you log in and i'll get you the uniforms.
[15:30] Adam Ant: will do
[16:22] Atticus: what time zone is the server set to?
[16:34] Adam Ant: it's Pacific Standard (all the time), it does NOT observer daylight savings time
[16:35] Atticus: ok, cool. just got the last event confirmed then, which puts us at 11 events (including server wars) and about 20someodd hours of events into 1 week
[16:36] Atticus: I'll have the schedule posted when i figure out what i'm going to do with this tavern nights problem.
[16:36] Adam Ant: nice :)
[16:36] Atticus: I'm free to add it to the News page?
[16:37] Atticus: I wouldn't be adding all the writeups to it, i wrote a nice little table with specifics.
[16:38] Atticus: (Link: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Kadull/eventdayscheduledemo.jpg)This is what it looks like, but it's been updated since i made that.
[16:38] Adam Ant: the link didn't come through
[16:39] Atticus: (Link: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Kadull/eventdayscheduledemo.jpg)http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e396/Kadull/eventdayscheduledemo.jpg
[16:39] Adam Ant: looks good 
[16:40] Atticus: sweet
[16:57] Adam Ant: you want to write me a bit of lore? ... or help me design the lore?
[16:57] Atticus: for what?
[16:57] Adam Ant: well, remember the rares factory?
[16:57] Atticus: vaguely... items generated with special tags to create uniqueness?
[16:57] Adam Ant: the one that generates 'true rares' and numbers them 1 of 2, 2 or 2, etc..
[16:57] Adam Ant: yes
[16:58] Atticus: i can give it a whirl.
[16:58] Adam Ant: so we need a model for this, and I was wanting some help and thought I would ask you
[16:58] Adam Ant: okay...
[16:58] Adam Ant: did you ever read beowulf?
[16:58] Atticus: nope
[16:59] Adam Ant: okay, well he was a great king and hero of Danish lore (maybe 3000 years old?)
[16:59] Adam Ant: any who...
[17:00] Adam Ant: he was given a sword Hrunting he used this word in battle to battle the tarn hag ;p 
I was going to introduce weapons and other items that might have historic lore value. 

[17:00] Adam Ant: the story is not si important I supose
[17:01] Adam Ant: but I would like lore to accompany each rare I introduce
[17:01] Atticus: ok
[17:02] Atticus: has anyone written any yet that i could look at?
[17:02] Atticus: to get my juices flowing
[17:02] Adam Ant: no.. 
[17:02] Atticus: ok
[17:02] Adam Ant: what I'm looking for is two fold... 
 
The item, and the accompanying lore
[17:03] Atticus: you invent the item, i invent the lore?
[17:03] Adam Ant: well, I 'create' the item .. but if you came across a THING that had a nice lore, then you give me both and I create the THING
[17:03] Atticus: I'm not the best author in the world, but i'll give it a shot and let you see what you think.
[17:05] Atticus: PM me the items you have so far and i'll do some googling and writeup some rough drafts.
[17:05] Adam Ant: so say YOU loved the beowulf tale and knew it well .. you would come to me and say... 
Adam, I have a new rare fore you: 
 
Item: Viking Sword named Hrunting  
Lore: Blah blah blah blah
[17:06] Adam Ant: well, if you'd rather I ask around for a writer that's okay too
[17:06] Adam Ant: just thought I would run it by you
[17:06] Atticus: do you want it intertwined with UO? or as close to the original lore as possible?
[17:07] Adam Ant: not sure ...  
It would seem to me that the story of the great Beo could be known in UO as well .. 
[17:07] Adam Ant: if we restrict ourselves to traditional UO, then we have a very shallow pool
[17:08] Atticus: ok
[17:08] Atticus: I'll see what i can come up with.
[17:09] Atticus: heres an example of my writing abilities in case you want to tell me not to bother (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=1&Number=493398&Searchpage=4&Main=41255&Words=heed+this+warning&topic=0&Search=true#Post493398)http://www.(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=1&Number=493398&Searchpage=4&Main=41255&Words=heed+this+warning&topic=0&Search=true#Post493398)game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=1&Number=493398&Searchpa(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=1&Number=493398&Searchpage=4&Main=41255&Words=heed+this+warning&topic=0&Search=true#Post493398)ge=4&Main=41255&Words=heed+this+warning&topic=0&Search=true#Post493398
[17:12] Adam Ant: you're bruno?
[17:13] Atticus: aye, and Felix Tape (when ever i get the time to play him)
[17:13] Atticus: well, desire to play him, i should say.
[17:13] Atticus: I have fun with my little community things
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[17:15] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue May 29 17:15:08 2007.
[17:15] Atticus: lost con.
[17:16] Atticus: anywho, i'll stop talking now :P I got a couple things i gotta do around the house real quick. When i get back to the computer i'm gonna post the event week schedule, then i'll look into the Hrunting sword and see if i can come up with something.
[17:17] Adam Ant: kk, Wikipedia as a blurb on it I beliueve
[17:17] Atticus: ok
[17:17] Atticus: i'll start there.
[20:04] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Tue May 29 20:04:54 2007.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue May 29 20:12:08 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed May 30 09:41:34 2007
[09:41] Adam Ant: I just banned 'last place' for calling me dishonest (and saying our mod is shitty) in the "Peace of Mind" post. 
it's a perma ban. 
I added comments his profile explaining the reason. 
 
 

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[15:21] Atticus: great call.
[15:22] Atticus: i saw the ordeal this morning but i had to get to work so i didnt have time to do anything about it
[15:23] Adam Ant: yeah .. heh
[15:23] Adam Ant: there is a time and a place for picking a fight .. that wasn't one of them
[15:23] Atticus: yea, no shit... his first comment pissed me off
[15:26] Atticus: i didn't get a chance to read his later ones though
[15:27] Adam Ant: no great loss ;p
[16:44] Adam Ant: hey, you want to update this thread to make yourself the responsible party? 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/489920/page/1#Post489920
)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/489920/page/1#Post489920 
 
I don't think we'll see much of Rhiannon
[16:45] Atticus: sure
[16:45] Adam Ant: ty
[16:46] Atticus: hey, remember when i first started [new] you asked if there was anything i would like to have start spawning around the [new] tower?
[16:46] Atticus: I think i asked for ratman archers, but you said they didn't fit the terrain...
[16:50] Atticus: well, either way, i couldn't think of anything after the ratman archers... but today (a year later, go 'thinking'') i thought of something, what about sheep?
[16:52] Adam Ant: sheep are a controlled substance ;p
[16:52] Atticus: argh!
[16:53] Adam Ant: they make bandages, and there needs to be controlls on them
[16:53] Adam Ant: sorry :p
[16:53] Atticus: ok, i'll let you know when i get another idea in a year or so :P
[16:54] Adam Ant: ;p
[17:47] Atticus: for these unique items... do you want lengthy lore? or short and sweet?
[17:47] Atticus: where are players going to read this lore?
[17:47] Adam Ant: dunno, dunno ;p
[17:48] Atticus: ooookie dokie
[17:48] Adam Ant: we have a potential of 11 levels of rarity (0-10 )
[17:48] Atticus: 
[17:48] Adam Ant: hehe
[17:48] Adam Ant: well, no stress
[17:48] Adam Ant: basically we have a bunch os wine and books .. so we will call that wine collections
[17:49] Adam Ant: the wine collection may be level 5? and need not a lot of explanation as wine is wine
[17:49] Adam Ant: but Hrunting may be interesting to players, and they may want some background
[17:49] Adam Ant: so there we can go a bit deeper
[17:49] Adam Ant: there could be a rares forum?
[17:50] Atticus: we need an html guy...
[17:50] Adam Ant: I'll start with the wine and books, and Hrunting to kick off the system .. 
[17:50] Adam Ant: why?
[17:50] Atticus: so we dont need forums for this sort of thing.
[17:51] Atticus: i guess its not top priority, but it would be nice.
[17:51] Adam Ant: well, forums are controlled already .. mods, access, searching ..while not perfect, it fits with the current model
[17:52] Adam Ant: a 'web' just makes these things harder
[17:54] Atticus: well, either way, a seperate forum might be a bit much. Maybe as a chapter in the playguide
[17:55] Adam Ant: sure
[17:56] Atticus: a book collection would make for some good rares... could use all the different open book graphics.
[17:56] Atticus: you already said that :P
[17:58] Adam Ant: sorry, what is that funny .. because OSI did that years ago?
[17:59] Atticus: no, i was making a solid suggestion, but i'm a huge ditz and forgot you already said you were doing that.
[17:59] Adam Ant: ah ;p
[17:59] Adam Ant: yeah, we have books that describe the wines 
[18:00] Adam Ant: so there is incentive for some one that finds the wine to find the matching book
[18:00] Atticus: ah.
[18:02] Adam Ant: (and visa versa)
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed May 30 18:20:38 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jun 01 12:23:55 2007
[12:23] Adam Ant: when you get a few minutes, can you change all references to angelisland.tamke.net to just tamke.net. 
both work, I'm just trying to obsolete the angelisland.tamke.net one
[12:24] Adam Ant: no explanation necessarry .. just replace one with the other
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[15:21] Atticus: sure
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[17:33] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Jun 01 17:33:29 2007.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jun 02 14:22:29 2007
[14:25] Atticus: OK, so for some reason I can't post the event week table with UBB tags enabled in a thread, so I can't just update the "this months news" thing to add it. Do you mind if I make a new article? I'd name it recent news, or this weeks news or something like that and include the event week schedule and also move the server payment news to the new article.
[14:26] Adam Ant: let me ask you some things
[14:26] Atticus: sure
[14:27] Adam Ant: Don't any posts in that news forums show up on the front page as news?
[14:27] Atticus: I think so, yea.
[14:27] Adam Ant: ok...
[14:28] Adam Ant: are you trying to 'append' stuff to an existing thread?
[14:28] Atticus: at first i was just going to add the event week schedule to the current article, but it will screw up the post.
[14:29] Atticus: Not sure why, it's got to be something to dow ith the way microsoft word does it's HTML.
[14:29] Atticus: I know you can set a post to accept both UBB and HTML code, but for some reason when i post the table it doesn't work.
[14:29] Adam Ant: well, you have moved ahread of what I'm getting after :P
[14:30] Atticus: ok
[14:30] Adam Ant: I asked if you were trying to append to an existing article, and your answer was "yes"
[14:30] Atticus: correct
[14:30] Adam Ant: Lets not do that .. each news story should have it's own thread
[14:30] Adam Ant: it's own posting date
[14:30] Adam Ant: ietc
[14:30] Atticus: ok.
[14:30] Adam Ant: etc
[14:31] Atticus: i just wanted to be sure the server payment news was front page for as long as possible.
[14:31] Adam Ant: so when you release news about say housing, ort the rares factory, those won't get added to some other thread .. bit will be a new thread (and thus a new 'news story')
[14:31] Atticus: ok.
[14:32] Adam Ant: I understand, but that causes us to hop through some odd hoops
[14:32] Adam Ant: if you need that up there .. you can edit the Forum Introduction to reflect that
[14:33] Atticus: ok.
[14:34] Atticus: also, i don't know if you guys check the event idea forum any more since theres no seers on the shard, but i posted an event idea yesterday or the day before that i can run on my counselor.
[14:35] Atticus: I did an event similar to it on a different shard I staffed on a long time ago, and it was a big hit... people like to gamble on it.
[14:35] Adam Ant: yeah, at thie time I'm just totally swampld and trying to catchup on other things .. keep reminding me, but this weekend is pretty much booked
[14:36] Atticus: ok, i'll remind you on monday then.
[14:37] Adam Ant: okay.. ty
[14:38] Atticus: I'm gonna make a margarita and float around the pool with my dog for a while. When I get back inside i'll writeup somethign for the rares factory to go in the playguide and update the front page news to include the event week schedule and the rares factory stuff.
[14:38] Atticus: anything else you want added other than that stuff?
[14:40] Adam Ant: hmm..
[14:40] Adam Ant: nope, that sounds good .. I'd like to hint at the progress on static housing .. but I think I'd rather wait until that bird's in the hand
[14:41] Atticus: hmm, how about I don't hint so much that it's nearing an end, but make mention that you guys are still hard at work on it?
[14:42] Adam Ant: okay, but try to stay away from pinning us down .. read Ronk's update in the static housing forum to get an idea where we are
[14:48] Atticus: ok, i'll just stay away from any mention of time. Something like "While the developers work hard on the coding, Jade has been busy constructing more house designs bla bla bla" and add a screeny of one or 2 of the hosues she posted.
[14:48] Adam Ant: :)
[16:11] Adam Ant: why the identity post in GD?
[16:11] Atticus: i explain in there. just trying to stop the little "kadull" comments from everyone.
[16:12] Atticus: they wont actually stop, but if i can get a couple people to stop it's a win.
[16:12] Adam Ant: I'm going to move it .. then we can discuss how to deal with these issues
[16:12] Atticus: since i started [new] back up i've run into too many problems already.
[16:13] Atticus: that threads my last step before I can the project and try something new.
[16:13] Adam Ant: we never want to start lying about who we are... we simply avoid that. 
Tenderheard went on and on swaring how he was not so and so .. and it was just embarrassing
[16:14] Atticus: ok
[16:14] Adam Ant: it is far better for some one to think you are kadull, then to go on record denying it.
[16:15] Atticus: well, if theres nothing i can do i'm probably going to close [new] when this group is out.
[16:15] Adam Ant: ==> it is far better for some one to think you are kadull, then to go on record denying it.
[16:15] Atticus: theres been always been problems to deal with, but it's too much now.
[16:18] Atticus: plus, in order for something like [new] to actually be affective you need lots of help and lots of time, something i have neither of.
[16:20] Adam Ant: *nods*
[16:21] Adam Ant: see my comments here (to all staff) 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=522421&page=0#Post522421)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=522421&page=0#Post522421
[16:42] Atticus: what do you call the system that makes the overland spawns? The bandit and merchant, etc.
[16:43] Atticus: i have to make a chapter explaining all that stuff before I can do the rares factory chapter.
[16:55] Adam Ant: O call it the Overland spawns :p
[16:55] Adam Ant: sorry, never really had a good name for it
[16:55] Adam Ant: there are three including the treasurehunter
[16:55] Atticus: ok, what would i search for in the updates to get all the info i need on them?
[16:56] Adam Ant: Overland
[16:56] Atticus: righto
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Jun 02 19:22:34 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jun 02 19:33:17 2007
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[19:33] Atticus: updated the portal page.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Jun 02 19:33:25 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jun 02 20:10:26 2007
[20:10] Adam Ant: ty :)
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[20:20] Atticus: np. just wanted to show you because i didnt know if the slideshow would be ok because of the ads.
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Jun 03 09:16:54 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jun 03 18:14:34 2007
[18:14] Atticus: if youre around we could really use some event gates and announcements for these events...
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[19:25] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Sun Jun 03 19:25:47 2007.
[20:42] Adam Ant: I just got home .. did you get your announcements?
[20:42] *** Auto-response sent to Adam Ant: I am currently away from the computer.
[20:42] Adam Ant: and gates?
[20:49] Atticus: nope.
[20:49] Adam Ant: okay, tell me just what you need
[20:49] Atticus: it's over now.
[20:49] Atticus: just gotta wait for server wars to start now.
[20:49] Adam Ant: also, next time we need to have some one lined up ahead of time to assist ;p
[20:50] Adam Ant: ah, ok
[20:50] Atticus: looked like everyone that attended had fun, though.
[20:50] Atticus: plus, theres still 6 more days of events ;)
[20:51] Adam Ant: :)
[20:51] Adam Ant: glad to hear it.. how did the cock fights go?
[20:51] Atticus: really well.
[20:51] Atticus: had a better turnout at the cock fight than the orc event
[20:52] Atticus: is speed one of the genetics you plan to add into breeding?
[20:52] Atticus: as in running speed...
[20:53] Adam Ant: no, had not considered it
[20:54] Atticus: should make it one for horses ;)
[20:54] Atticus: get some horse races goin
[20:54] Adam Ant: Can you update the team Roster to remove Cyrun Ersaid
[20:54] Adam Ant: ooh
[20:54] Adam Ant: :)
[20:55] Adam Ant: I've already asked lily to kill all of his access
[20:55] Atticus: looks like she already took him off the team roster too
[20:56] Atticus: oh, not the table int he staff forum.
[20:56] Adam Ant: yeah, that's what i call the roster
[20:56] Atticus: ok, thought you meant the one on the left of the public forums.
[20:57] Adam Ant: oh, the meat the team thingie?
[20:57] Atticus: ya
[20:58] Adam Ant: okay, please keep that up to date .. I always forget about that one
[20:58] Atticus: ok, i'll make all that tomorrows stuff. i'm pretty fried from all the event stuff plus i got work early tomorrow
[20:59] Atticus: gotta be up at like 4:00am
[20:59] Atticus: bleh
[20:59] Adam Ant: yes yes, no hurry
[20:59] Adam Ant: thank you so much for all you've been doing man :)
[20:59] Adam Ant: you are a great addition to the team
[20:59] Atticus: thanks ;)
[20:59] Atticus: i like doing it.
[21:00] Atticus: not the act itself :P i couldn't say with honesty that updating forums is fun, but its part of the big picture.
[21:00] Adam Ant: yep yep
[21:01] Adam Ant: (don't I know it)
[21:05] Adam Ant: did the Where's Waldo event already go off?
[21:05] Atticus: ya, that was the first one of the day. it ended really fast
[21:06] Adam Ant: okay
[21:06] Atticus: he handed out his prizes... i kept an eye on that.
[21:06] Adam Ant: did he use the player quest system?
[21:06] Atticus: nope.
[21:07] Adam Ant: kk
[21:07] Atticus: i thought he should have used the fight broker, personally.
[21:07] Adam Ant: ah
[21:08] Atticus: have all the waldos get on the broker and make everyone else get on the broker to "where" him... could have made for some controversy
[21:10] Atticus: i still gotta get you the bob/fred uniforms for tueday, too.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Jun 03 21:16:01 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jun 03 21:21:20 2007
[21:21] Adam Ant: sure .. get with me tomorrow :)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jun 04 15:35:25 2007
[15:36] Atticus: what was it you wanted me to do on the forums last night?
[15:38] Atticus: nm, i remember. Do you want me to remove just his counselor chars name from the table? Or should i remove kilgreedy/lysander too?
[15:41] Adam Ant: he has a counselor char?
[15:41] Atticus: or maybe it's an admin char, i don't know.
[15:41] Atticus: do you want his whole square cleared?
[15:41] Adam Ant: in gam?
[15:41] Adam Ant: in game?
[15:42] Adam Ant: he should only have a 'D' for developer .. does he have a different designation?
[15:42] Atticus: he has a name in there that is different than his forum identities, so i figured it was his in game staff character of some sort.
[15:43] Atticus: like gilah and rhiannons and mine.
[15:43] Atticus: and JBs
[15:43] Adam Ant: what is the designation adger his nam?
[15:43] Adam Ant: name
[15:44] Atticus: Cyrun Ersaid (Kilgreedy/Lysander)—D
[15:44] Atticus: that's what his box says, do you want all of it removed? or just cyrun Ersaid
[15:44] Adam Ant: yes, he's only a Developer :)
[15:44] Adam Ant: okay, the whole square should be cleared .. 
[15:44] Atticus: ok
[15:45] Adam Ant: also, I asked lily to ban his staff acct (SOP) .. and to make sure lys does not have any staff access .. and you please double check that those operations occured please and let me know?
[15:46] Atticus: sure, gonna take me a min, i gotta figure out how to clear his name without screwing up the table.
[15:46] Adam Ant: well, you can leave an empty cell .. np
[15:55] Atticus: you dont want him to have any access to any staff forums on any forum account?
[15:56] Adam Ant: correct, when some one leaves the team .. they revery to normal player access onceagain
[15:57] Adam Ant: *revert
[15:57] Atticus: ok, didn't know he left.
[15:57] Adam Ant: well, he's been AWOL for more than 2 months .. and I hardly know that guy (favor bank near zero) so it's a security percaution
[15:58] Adam Ant: had pizie, weaver, taran dosappeared like that, I wouldn't give it a second thought
[15:58] Atticus: got it. so you know, last i heard he was just having PC problems though.
[15:58] Atticus: according to silk
[16:00] Adam Ant: well, I sent him an email, and multiple ICQs well over a month ago
[16:00] Atticus: ok, he's got user access on all accounts.
[16:00] Adam Ant: kk .. ty
[16:00] Atticus: ok, just letting you know what i heard.
[16:01] Atticus: also, i need to get you the uniforms for the event tomorrow, and I said i would remind you to check my event idea in the event forum today
[16:01] Adam Ant: it's been months
[16:01] Adam Ant: kk
[16:02] Adam Ant: he can contact me when he's back if he wishes his position back
[16:02] Adam Ant: but for now, I need to be safe 
[16:02] Atticus: i hope he does... i read that dungeon idea him and silk came up with
[16:02] Atticus: sounded pretty rad
[16:02] Atticus: ya, i said "rad," i'm bringing it back.
[16:05] Atticus: but yea :P uniforums and event. let me know when i can meet you in game.
[16:06] Adam Ant: what will you give me .. one of each clothing item properly dyed?
[16:06] Atticus: aye
[16:07] Atticus: pink robe for bobs, yellow dress and jester hat for freds
[16:07] Adam Ant: okay, put them in a pack and I will meet you in a minute.
[16:07] Adam Ant: first tho...
[16:08] Adam Ant: how do you see this working? 
locked down dye tubs? a cloythes spawner, what?
[16:08] Atticus: clothes spawner would be best i think. Bobs and freds are supposed to be newbie chars, and town tailors don't sell clothes.
[16:11] Atticus: suppose that would mean you need unmarked clothes though?
[16:11] Adam Ant: that's a free source of cloth
[16:11] Atticus: hmmm
[16:11] Atticus: ok
[16:12] Adam Ant: we still may be able to do it...
[16:12] Adam Ant: I think I set the death robes at Wrong so they cannot be cut up... I'll need to see if I can do that with these
[16:12] Adam Ant: anyway
[16:12] Adam Ant: where will you want the spawners .. have you picked a place?
[16:13] Atticus: yea. should just be by the guildstones.
[16:13] Adam Ant: and you are handling moving the guild stones?
[16:13] Atticus: bobs guildstone is going to be at comrade bobs house by the brit moongate, but i'm still going to set the fred one in brit guards
[16:13] Atticus: it's a kadull event, so... my stone will be griefed.
[16:14] Atticus: yea, my counselor can move the stone, i believe
[16:14] Adam Ant: please make sure so we don't get into a last minute emergency :p
[16:14] Atticus: ok, i'll do that now.
[16:19] Atticus: yup, all good
[16:20] Adam Ant: okay .. since bobs will be in a house, and a dyed death robe works, bob can just secure a tub there, right? everyone access?
[16:20] Atticus: and you're right, you can't cut the robes that spawn at wrong
[16:20] Atticus: well, they would have to die and go back then.
[16:20] Atticus: unless they start with magery
[16:21] Adam Ant: why log back in? 
[16:21] Adam Ant: oh, go back...
[16:21] Adam Ant: my point for this train of thought is there are some issues with spawning inside a house
[16:22] Atticus: wouldn't be inside. he's got his stone on the steps
[16:22] Adam Ant: okay, good then
[16:22] Adam Ant: go stand there and page me
[16:23] Adam Ant:  
(have the back of clothes on you)
[16:23] Atticus: crap, ok.
[16:23] Atticus: gotta get the cloth
[16:24] Adam Ant: kk
[16:30] Atticus: paged
[16:36] Adam Ant: or me
[16:36] Atticus: ok, great.
[16:37] Atticus: don't forget to check the event forum if you get a chance. It's nothing fancy, but i've seen it and ran it before in the past and people seem to like it.
[16:37] Atticus: especially if you include gambling ;)
[16:37] Adam Ant: you sure freds wear plain dresses? I thought thay wore fancy?
[16:37] Atticus: i was told plain
[16:37] Adam Ant: kk
[16:38] Atticus: been a long time since i've seen a fred though.
[16:59] Atticus: ok, seems i was wrong and they wear fancy. I got a fancy in atticus' bank if you can snatch that
[16:59] Adam Ant: :P
[17:00] Adam Ant: *flexes*
[17:00] Adam Ant: okay, I'll take care of it
[17:00] Atticus: thanks ;)
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon Jun 04 17:35:19 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 05 00:00:48 2007
[00:00] Adam Ant: You around?
[00:00] *** Auto-response sent to Adam Ant: I am currently away from the computer.
[00:15] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Tue Jun 05 00:15:40 2007.
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue Jun 05 05:20:14 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 05 15:06:18 2007
[15:06] Atticus: i am now.
[15:10] Adam Ant: ah, nm ;p
[15:10] Adam Ant: the bob fred thing was at like 6 server time?
[15:10] Atticus: yea, 6:30
[15:11] Adam Ant: kk, ping me maybe 30 minutes prior and I will start the spawners
[15:11] Atticus: sweet. interested in dropping some gates too?
[15:13] Atticus: actually, me and comrade might be able to pull off the gates.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue Jun 05 18:58:15 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 05 20:03:13 2007
[20:03] Adam Ant: should I turn on the clothes spawners now?
[20:03] Atticus: sure, might as well
[20:04] Atticus: actually, can you move the spawner outside, too?
[20:04] Atticus: i'm gonna move the stone so i'm not trapped in here if someone wants to grief.
[20:05] Adam Ant: you on your way there now?
[20:05] Atticus: ya
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[20:13] Atticus: thx a lot
[21:19] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue Jun 05 21:19:09 2007.
[21:19] Adam Ant: okay, I'm around to drop gates 
[21:19] Atticus: sweet, ok.
[21:20] Atticus: heres what i think we should do. Drop 2 gates at brit west, one to the fred stone one to the bob stone (maybe hue 1 pink and the other yellow)
[21:20] Adam Ant: sure. I'll take care of it...
[21:20] Atticus: awesome
[21:21] Adam Ant: I'll then send an announcement
[21:21] Adam Ant: the event is on now, right?
[21:21] Atticus: BoBs: 29o 58oS, 0o 25oE
[21:21] Atticus: Freds: 9o 29o N, 22o 4o E
[21:21] Atticus: gate coords ^
[21:21] Atticus: yea, we started a little early cus comrade is getting griefed
[21:22] Adam Ant: .. use [where to give me coords
[21:24] Atticus: freds: 1631 1521 40
[21:24] Atticus: bobs: 1328 1968 0
[21:25] Adam Ant: two way gates, right?
[21:25] Adam Ant: to and from WBB
[21:25] Atticus: no
[21:25] Atticus: we decided to make it take place in jhelom, so we'll just gate from the stones.
[21:26] Adam Ant: okay, so I just supply hates to the bobs and freds and that's it
[21:26] Atticus: yup, we'll take it from there
[21:26] Adam Ant: kk
[21:27] Atticus: thanks a lot ;)
[21:27] Atticus: maybe announce that gates are up when youre done?
[21:52] Adam Ant: all bobs and freds are to go to Jhelom?
[21:52] Atticus: aye
[21:53] Adam Ant: kk
[21:57] Atticus: yea, seems freds just invaded the bob guildstone because the bobs were hiding like cowards :P
[21:57] Adam Ant: lol
[22:24] Atticus: maybe next time we should lift guards somewhere and see how that goes.
[22:24] Adam Ant: yeah .. would you like guards ooff?
[22:24] Atticus: now?
[22:24] Adam Ant: yeah
[22:24] Atticus: hm
[22:25] Atticus: yea, why not. lets see which gets a better reponse.
[22:25] Atticus: guards off in jhelom, and an announcement?
[22:26] Adam Ant: done
[22:28] Atticus: ok, lets try to localize them though.
[22:28] Atticus: i'm going to drop the last of my explo pots and poisoned weapons at the jhelom bank.  Could you announce that the guards are off and also that the supplies are at the bank?
[22:28] Adam Ant: okay..
[22:50] Atticus: i think it's over now
[22:51] Atticus: thanks a lot for all the help ;)
[23:44] Adam Ant: Alright .. guards are now on in jhelom....
[23:44] *** Auto-response sent to Adam Ant: I am currently away from the computer.
[23:45] Adam Ant: I'l clean up the gates and spawners tomorrow..
[23:45] Adam Ant: g'night!
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 06 19:57:05 2007
[19:57] Atticus: howdy. did you move the fred stone back to kadulls house?
[19:57] Adam Ant: no, I did not move any stones
[19:57] Adam Ant: ...
[19:57] Adam Ant: however
[19:57] Adam Ant: heh
[19:58] Adam Ant: Now that I think of it.. there is automatic cleanup code that  deletes orphaned guild stones (ones that remain after a house falls)
[19:58] Atticus: oh shit
[19:58] Atticus: really?
Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Jun 06 19:58:51 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 06 19:58:54 2007
[19:58] Adam Ant: yeah
[19:59] Atticus: after how long?
[19:59] Adam Ant: they need to be in a house not be be deleted .. I think it's either 24 or 48 hours
[20:00] Atticus: well, that sucks, lol.
[20:00] Adam Ant: was the the real fred stone? like with lots of 'real' freds on it?
[20:00] Adam Ant: sorry, didn't realize it until just now
[20:00] Atticus: no, but i told everyone i would leave them on the fred stone so they could keep warring with bob
[20:00] Atticus: its no biggy.
[20:00] Adam Ant: kk, I'll replace the funds 
[20:00] Atticus: I had to swap the GM of it anyways
[20:00] Adam Ant: or the stone
[20:01] Adam Ant: well there you go!
[20:01] Atticus: comrade was up for hosting some more of those, so we're going to try to perfect it
[20:02] Atticus: that reminds me, did you ever get a chance to look at my cow tipping tourney idea?
[20:03] Adam Ant: no, and I'm heading out the door .. but I'll be back on later..
[20:03] Atticus: ok
[20:03] Adam Ant: I'll catch up with you then :p
[20:03] Atticus: ok, cya then. or tomorrow
[20:03] Adam Ant: cya 
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Jun 06 20:08:39 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jun 07 14:41:40 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Jun 07 14:41:49 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jun 07 15:31:38 2007
[15:31] Atticus: howdy. did you get a chance to check out my event idea?
[15:33] Adam Ant: no, I'm totally swamped atm .. I'm hoping to slow down a bit next week tho
[15:33] Atticus: ugh, ok.
[15:35] Adam Ant: is it part of this weeks event schedule?
[15:36] Atticus: nope, just an idea i had for a staff event that i could run as a counselor.
[15:36] Atticus: but i would need a couple small things, and permission, of course.
[15:36] Adam Ant: okay, if it's not urgent.. then best I finish what I'm working on
[15:37] Atticus: nope, not urgent, i'm just excited over it. I think people would like it, though it's pretty simple.
[15:37] Atticus: I'll remind you again next week :P
[15:38] Adam Ant: okay :p
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Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Jun 07 18:04:41 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jun 08 14:50:53 2007
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[19:26] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=523853&page=0#Post523853)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=523853&page=0#Post523853
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jun 09 15:08:52 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Jun 09 15:10:39 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jun 10 12:17:30 2007
[12:19] Atticus: howdy. quick question, is my idea for breeding horses/dogs for speed to host horse racing events something you'd be interested in doing? Note that i would incorporate gambling and such into it and work out any balance issues that might come from being able to breed the pets for speed.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Jun 10 12:41:15 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jun 10 13:11:17 2007
[13:11] Adam Ant: as a general concept I like it .. but not sure how it would all work... 
Also, I know there is a mounted rider running animation, but not sure if there is a running horse animation. 
(same for the dog)
[13:11] Adam Ant: we know there are running humaniod animations, but most creatures don't include such animations, which may look somewhat bad
[13:12] Atticus: the only thing i'm having trouble thinking up is how to set the odds for the race to make the betting work like a real track.
[13:12] Atticus: i'm pretty sure there is a running dog animation
[13:12] Atticus: don't know about the mounted npc though.
[13:13] Adam Ant: mounted NPc/player = yes 
unmountyed horse = ?
[13:13] Atticus: not sure. should be easy to test though. Can't you just turn a char into a GM and run with him?
[13:13] Atticus: er, a GM char into a horse
[13:14] Adam Ant: yes, that wouild probably work
[13:14] Atticus: and yea, there is a running dog animation, i just polymorphed into one and tested.
[13:15] Adam Ant: breeding is not enough tho
[13:15] Adam Ant: you need a system to make them run from A to B
[13:15] Adam Ant: and there are pathing issues .. and collision issues .. 
[13:16] Atticus: well, what i had in mind was creating new race creatures. They would be able to be bred for speed, be limited to the "follow" commands, and make them herdable by their owner with 0 herding.
[13:16] Atticus: and not herdable by anyone else.
[13:17] Atticus: actually, that might not work. I think crits walk when they're herded.
[13:17] Atticus: anyways, if it's something you think youd be interested in i'll try to work all that stuff out.
[13:18] Adam Ant: all of it is easy except for the bit that is really hard :p 
The hard bit is the Racing_AI .. that is not easy
[13:18] Adam Ant: it would be all new AI
[13:20] Atticus: didn't you impliment some sort of AI a while back that made crits start at 1 location and walk a path to another? or am i thinking of another shard?
[13:20] Adam Ant: we have that .. it's NavStar
[13:21] Adam Ant: I'll be right back .. off tpo a walk
[13:21] Atticus: ok, well, if that's in, for dog races there could be a "bunny" that runs the track that we could make dogs follow.
[13:23] Adam Ant: yeah, that may work
[13:24] Adam Ant: but the dogs would likely follow the same path, they wouldn't likely be spread out nicely as you may imagine
[13:25] Atticus: invisible blockers on the track?
[13:25] Adam Ant: I'm not saying it's impossible, it's just a matter > breeding for DEX
[13:25] Atticus: hm
[13:26] Adam Ant: you're talking about somme actual coding... 
Like the race mechanics.. and what is breeding for speed.. if DEX is not it, then it would need to be a new gene that we would need to factor into the system
[13:26] Adam Ant: so..
[13:26] Atticus: i mean actual run speed.
[13:26] Adam Ant: it's not a weekend project .. it's a couple weeks work
[13:27] Adam Ant: and what is breeding for speed.. if DEX is not it, then it would need to be a new gene that we would need to factor into the system 

[13:27] Atticus: i think it might be worth it if it can be done right. Players have been asking for gambling for a long time, this gives them much more than what they've been asking for and i think it fits pretty well.
[13:28] Adam Ant: yeah, that it may
[13:28] Adam Ant: currently I've got my hands fill with trying to get the housing system finished off .. so I won' 
t be taking on any new designs 
[13:28] Atticus: I'll setup a private shard and see what i can do with GM abilities in terms of making the track and making the race work.
[13:31] Atticus: to limit coding as much as possible. Though, i don't think the horses staying in their line is a big deal. I go to horse tracks pretty regularly (twice a month or so) and the horses always get clumped together.
[13:32] Adam Ant: well if each horse was given it's own navBeacon, they would stay in their lanes
[13:33] Atticus: but wouldn't that mean that every time the player brought the horse/dog out to breed it would start heading tword that beacon? or is it something that could be activated just for the races?
[13:37] Adam Ant: that's some of the coding that would need to take place
[13:37] Adam Ant: the whole system would need to be designed .. like said .. a couple weeks work
[13:38] Adam Ant: we have the systems .. but not designed to work as you would like .. there would need to be changes and such
[13:38] Adam Ant: you should write it up .. but I'm too bust atm to start a design
[13:39] Atticus: ok, i'll work out a writeup while i wait to see how much interest there is in something like this.
[13:39] Adam Ant: alrighty
[16:36] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=524338&page=0#Post524338)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=524338&page=0#Post524338
[18:19] Atticus: the last event for event week just started, are you available to toss an announcement out? It's a public harrower, it's spawned in shame.
[19:03] Adam Ant: sure
[19:04] Adam Ant: what exactly do you want me to say?
[19:06] Atticus: How about "Event week is just about over! Come take part in the last event of the week, the Public harrower! He's causing havoc at dungeon Shame!"
[19:07] Adam Ant: sure
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jun 11 16:12:33 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon Jun 11 16:38:03 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 12 15:56:01 2007
[15:56] Adam Ant: can you ask around and see if we would be better served by converting the Voting Booth at WBB to a Library and having all the books link to like the main site, the general discussion, Merchants, etc.. 
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[15:56] Atticus: sure. But what about the playguide?
[15:57] Atticus: I have a pretty decent info library at the new tower that gives information on some of the different shard features.
[15:58] Adam Ant: well.. the links I gave were examples .. we will use whatever mokes the most sense
[16:09] Atticus: Is there any way to take the little (A) tag off my name so i don't show as an admin to everyone?
[16:11] Atticus: I looked but couldn't find anything, thought maybe you would know something off hand.
[16:36] Adam Ant: not that I know of ... 
think of it as a badge of honor :)
[16:48] Atticus: I do :P I just finished that race track thing, and it makes mention of seers and this and that, and i didn't want players to see the admin tag and get confused/think it was a headsup or anything because of the tag.
[16:49] Atticus: I guess i'll just sit on it for a while untill we get some seers, then post it in the staff forum.
[16:50] Adam Ant: okay, probably best to avoid confusion
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 13 15:46:11 2007
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 13 15:47:17 2007
[15:47] Adam Ant: you can now send folks to the Angel Island Library (formerlly the Voting Booth)
[15:47] Adam Ant: it has links to all the good stuyff
[15:47] Atticus: ok, good to know.
[15:47] Adam Ant: I'll add it to latest updates
[15:48] Atticus: offer still stands to put some imovable voting books in the [new] tower if you'd like.
[15:48] Adam Ant: *nods*
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jun 18 19:43:40 2007
[19:43] Adam Ant: :D 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/526388/page/1/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/526388/page/1/gonew/1#UNREAD
[19:49] Atticus: I'll do some AIM advertising once the breeding/housing goes it.
[19:49] Adam Ant: *nods*
[19:50] Atticus: well, depending. How is housing going to work? Will custom housing be left open? Or do you plan to just impliment a batch and let them be for a while?
[19:51] Adam Ant: we will keep TC open for players to build houses .. if there is a great design, it will get moved to production
[19:51] Atticus: ok.
[19:52] Atticus: good decission, that will probably help attract/retain players.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 19 20:36:16 2007
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jun 19 21:37:22 2007
[21:37] Adam Ant: just an FYI .. don't park in the spirit spawn as it keeps the mobs healing where they would otherwise not
[21:37] Adam Ant: it's mostly a problem when you have the champ out
[21:38] Atticus: ok, sorry.
[21:39] Adam Ant: np .. not really something you could know
[21:49] Atticus: So! I was thinking today (yes, it hurt) and concluded that the next step should be trying to get some seer events going after the static housing/dragon breeding goes live. I really think that would be the best move to give the shard a jump start.
[21:50] Adam Ant: or factions :p
[21:50] Atticus: Actually, before factions.
[21:50] Atticus: well, more while factions are being worked on.
[21:50] Atticus: Think about it, you have at least a couple members on staff that are capable, and trustworthy
[21:51] Atticus: that can't do any dev work. However, seer events are really important to a whole lot of players, easily just as many as factions.
[21:51] Atticus: why not get a couple people setup as seers and get your whole staff utilized while the dev team works on factions?
[21:53] Adam Ant: it's not so much granting the powers .. it's that I must approve the event, review it for being failsafe, and approve any rewards.. 
[21:53] Atticus: I even have a few events written up that could be run smoothly by even a novice seer.
[21:53] Adam Ant: I'm not saying no, just that it requires a lot of my time
[21:54] Adam Ant: okay, lets discuss once we are past this current bottleneck, deal?
[21:54] Atticus: yup.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 20 18:30:28 2007
[18:30] Atticus: any objection to me organizing/categorizing the staff forums a little better?
[18:31] Adam Ant: what did you have in mind?
[18:31] Atticus: for example: Warnings, moderator discussion, and forum administration would go into 1 category titled "moderators"
[18:31] Atticus: all the dev forums into a dev thing, seer/event forums in a seer/event board.
[18:32] Adam Ant: yes, that sounds good :)
[18:32] Atticus: ok, thanks.
[18:32] Adam Ant: no, thank you..
[18:38] Atticus: np
[18:51] Atticus: all set, let me know if you want anything changed.
[18:52] Adam Ant: *looks*
[18:53] Adam Ant: there is a forum called "Ultima Online" with one thing under it .. Grabby
[18:54] Adam Ant: I'm guessing that would be better categorized as Utilities 

[18:55] Atticus: ok, i'll change that. Might be good to add razor and UO downloads to it too?
[18:55] Atticus: or do you want to leave it for grabby?
[18:56] Adam Ant: sure links for the others would be good
[18:59] Atticus: actually, theres stickies in GD and stuff for it. I'll just leave it how it is.
[18:59] Atticus: No need to add more forums for people to sift through.
[19:02] Adam Ant: *nods*
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[10:00] Adam Ant: may make sense to remove the eventweek bit from the front page but leave the pare about the rares and houses..
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[14:38] Atticus: done.
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[22:27] Atticus: hey, got a sec?
[22:27] Atticus: I have a bit of an urgent page that i'm not sure how to/if i can handle with my counselor.
[22:33] Atticus: well, i made a post in staff forum about it, but i have to log now.
[22:57] Adam Ant: is this mugen?
[23:07] Adam Ant: *handled(
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jun 24 11:02:46 2007
[11:04] Atticus: Howdy! Couple forum requests: First, can i get rid of the screen shot forum? Nobody moderates or adds to it any more, and theres no need for it. Second, i've been playing around with the idea of adding an RP section. It would include the rogues den, and an general RP forum for RPers to discuss their events and other things.
[11:05] Atticus: and last, how about a player event announcement forum? Somewhere for players to announce the events they're hosting. It would also make it so new people that come check out our boards before they get started on the shard to see all the events our players host.
[11:07] Adam Ant: sure ..  
rather than delete the picture forum, just turn it off so that we do not loose what is there. 
An announcement forum? dunno.. would need moderation. 
See if that calandar that shows on the lide of the screen can have events and whatnot added to it. Today all it shows is bdays 
[11:08] Adam Ant: also there is a 'test' forum that can go away .. 
[11:08] Atticus: hmm, what if i check with the mods first to see if any of them would be up for moding the event forum?
[11:09] Atticus: We get a lot of player run events on ai, might as well flaunt it if we can.
[11:09] Adam Ant: sure
[11:09] Adam Ant: just keep in mind I fear forum-bloat
[11:10] Atticus: forum-bloat = too many forums?
[11:10] Adam Ant: yes
[11:10] Atticus: figured. I actually do too, these are just forums that i think would be beneficial enough to add.
[11:11] Atticus: RP forums show people that we appreciate RPers when they come, event forum would show off our player run events. Newbies coming in and seeing a long list of player run events could help get a lot of people logged in.
[11:12] Atticus: going to put some thought into the RP forum before i add them, as i'd like to have some pretty sound rules for them to make them interesting/useful.
[11:12] Atticus: but if i can get some OKs from the mods, i'll probably have the event forum up today.
[11:27] Adam Ant: do look into thre calandar tho .. not sure if we can add ebents to it.. but I would LOVE to have my AES events in there
[11:29] Atticus: admins can add to it.
[11:29] Atticus: well, sort of.
[11:30] Atticus: the thing is, you can add a post to it. So, if a player makes a post announcing his event, i could then add the link to that thread to the calendar.
[11:30] Atticus: so, for the AES to work in the calendar, you would have to seperate each event into their own threads, then at the start of the month i can go through and add each one to it's proper sunday.
[11:33] Atticus: I'm ok with adding them, it only takes a min. Don't know if you'd be up for breaking the schedule down into dif posts.
[11:36] Adam Ant: Oh, sure.. whatever works best :)
[11:37] Adam Ant: thank man.. I think that will be a nice enhancement
[11:37] Adam Ant: is there like a calandar forum?? 
or would events in this events forum end up on the calandar?
[11:37] Atticus: hmm
[11:37] Adam Ant: PS .. I saw 93 on last night :)
[11:38] Atticus: You mean like the news posts go straight to the portal page? I doubt it, but i'll look into it.
[11:38] Atticus: that would be pretty sweet.
[11:39] Adam Ant: yeah it would
[11:39] Atticus: but what about this. 
[11:39] Atticus: I'll make the event forum admin/mod post only and take posts from GD and duplicate them into the event forum.
[11:40] Adam Ant: if not .. maybe you could have guidelines for the calandar forum .. where thay need to be 'finished' and you would automatically add them to the calandar .. maybe disable replies for the forum so that only ane announcements go in
[11:41] Atticus: removes the need for a lot of moderation, too.
[11:42] Atticus: I could just delete any threads made in the forum that arn't an announcement to be added.
[11:43] Atticus: I think that's what i'll do.
[11:43] Adam Ant: :0
[11:43] Atticus: what about the automated events? do you want me to break the 1 thread into 4 and add those to the calendar?
[11:44] Atticus: i guess i could leave it 1 post and just add the post to each sunday and let everyone figure it out.
[11:44] Adam Ant: sure .. 
[11:44] Adam Ant: yeah
[11:44] Atticus: still makes it easier for everyone, nobody seems to know to look in the bsi forum for the list.
[11:45] Adam Ant: and the calandar is right there!
[11:45] Atticus: yup
[11:45] Atticus: ok, i'll write up the rules and have everything setup in a bit.
[11:45] Adam Ant: thanks man
[11:46] Atticus: np. I'll let you know when i figure out how i'm going to do the RP section. I want to talk to a couple people about it first... get some ideas.
[11:46] Atticus: then i'll run it all by you.
[15:26] Adam Ant: lol, there's 127 people online :)
[15:27] Atticus: no shit man
[15:27] Atticus: come to me...
[15:27] Atticus: someone posted about our shard on some forum, and theres a big group of newbs that i'm chatting with
[15:30] Adam Ant: sweet!
[15:30] Adam Ant: warn them that vesper is not for the feint of heart ;p
[15:30] Atticus: told them that about the entire shard ;)
[15:30] Adam Ant: don't want them getting roxxored their first day.,..
[15:30] Adam Ant: however they SHOULD be watching it .. even as a ghost!!
[15:31] Adam Ant: to get a good idea whgat a ransom quest is
[15:31] Adam Ant: feel free to gate them with the understanding that can die (not a GZ)
[15:31] Atticus: i would, but i can't
[15:31] Atticus: i'm just a counselor
[15:31] Atticus: now, if i was a seer... 
[15:31] Adam Ant: ;p
[15:31] Adam Ant: soon
[15:32] Adam Ant: you want to warn them? 
you can mark a rune and cast a gate can't you?!!
[15:32] Atticus: hm, that works
[15:32] Adam Ant: just make sure they KNOW it's likely death, but worth seeing
[15:36] Atticus: can i do this with player run events, btw?
[15:36] Atticus: mark runes to it and gate people if theres nobody around to setup event gates?
[15:37] Adam Ant: yes.. but we should talk about guide lines
[15:37] Adam Ant: basically you need to pull everyone aside and warn them
[15:37] Adam Ant: don't open a gate at WBB !
[15:37] Adam Ant: pull a small group aside and make sure they realize this is a possible death anddismemberment ;p
[15:38] Atticus: and possibly cannibalism...
[15:38] Atticus: thx to pixie :P
[15:38] Adam Ant: ;p
[15:40] Atticus: these guys are all hunting around now, and they have a vet with them.
[15:40] Atticus: i'll wait till they're done before i ask if they want a gate.
[15:40] Adam Ant: sure
[15:56] Atticus: (Link: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=26581&highlight=angel)http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=26581&highlight=angel
[15:56] Atticus: found it!
[16:06] Adam Ant: hmm, nice read .. the last post was that they got a GMs attention .. they's probably you! 
How about courting these guys, post there to answer questions .. find out what they need and want from a server .. 
[16:07] Atticus: already on the agenda ;)
[16:08] Adam Ant: :)
[16:09] Adam Ant: they need to know about the mortal system !
[16:10] Atticus: want me to do it as atticus or felix?
[16:11] Adam Ant: your call
[16:36] Atticus: (Link: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2094079&posted=1#post2094079)http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2094079&posted=1#post2094079
[16:39] Adam Ant: ry nice, thank you
[16:39] Adam Ant: *very
[16:45] Atticus: OK, so heres what i'm going to do with the event forum, let me know if this sounds square to you.
[16:46] Atticus: It's going to be read only for everyone except admins and i'm going to pull event announcements from GD into the event forum.
[16:46] Atticus: all events added to the event forum will be added to the public calendar.
[16:47] Atticus: and there will be a post in the event forum explaining that if players want their event moved to the event forum and added to the calendar they should add a tag to the title of their announcement.. something along the lines of (calendar)
[16:51] Adam Ant: ya, sounds good
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[21:18] Adam Ant: was there a PA quest?
[21:19] Atticus: PA?
[21:19] Adam Ant: penny arcade
[21:19] Adam Ant: lots of running around, fighting, slaying dragons, recovering items and decoding books
[21:19] Atticus: not that i know of
[21:19] Atticus: i just got back on though
[21:19] Adam Ant: okay
[21:19] Atticus: nenar and i are holding court
[21:19] Adam Ant: Mojo the Avenger (7:16 PM) :  
wow 
Mojo the Avenger (7:16 PM) :  
if atticus is the guy that set up the quest for this PA group he did a damn good job of it 
Adam Ant (7:17 PM) :  
what quest? 
Mojo the Avenger (7:17 PM) :  
it’s detailed in the link i sent you 
Mojo the Avenger (7:17 PM) :  
lots of running around, fighting, slaying dragons, recovering items and decoding books 
Mojo the Avenger (7:17 PM) :  
etc 
 

[21:20] Adam Ant: I was just wondering what he was talking about
[21:20] Atticus: wasn't me. maybe comatose bob? he was around them a lot earlier
[21:20] Atticus: helping them out
[21:21] Adam Ant: yeah.. just player managed .. no staff
[21:21] Adam Ant: okay
[21:30] Atticus: maybe i'll do that tomorrow though...
[21:30] Atticus: track them down then meet them on atti for a quest
[22:02] Adam Ant: cool cool :)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jun 25 16:23:04 2007
[16:23] Atticus: these PA guys are pretty into townships, i'm hoping they make a pretty large one.
[18:43] Adam Ant: :)
[18:55] Atticus: how about cutting the mods a break and making it so people can't change their names any more?
[18:56] Atticus: theres an option for it in the control panel
[19:24] Adam Ant: I think so .. but that's no solution .. all you do then is get multiple accounts
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[19:27] Atticus: ya, but at least it makes it harder for them. Some people change their name every week.
[19:27] Atticus: and it's always the crap heads. The people who make dif ID's for RP things usually make new accounts
[19:29] Adam Ant: yeah, I think I'd prefer to leave the ability to change names because if someone wants a new name they'll get one.. and I'll have yet another dead database record for the pld account.
[19:29] Adam Ant: *old
[19:30] Adam Ant: remember renaming doesn't artifically grow our registered users
[19:30] Adam Ant: having an accurate counts if valuable
[19:36] Atticus: I'm about the furthest thing from a computer wiz there is, but i can say moding those boards can get to be a pretty big headache and burn the moderates out. If it's something that's doable it might be worth doing, since the board community can get pretty out of control sometimes.
[19:37] Atticus: but, i don't know what having dead database records does to the boards or their server
[19:37] Adam Ant: *nods*
[19:37] Adam Ant: go hava a look .. I think you can turn it off :)
[19:37] Adam Ant: we'll see if they screem
[19:37] Adam Ant: however I wouldn't announce it ;p
[19:38] Atticus: i'll let the mods know you OKed it for them
[19:38] Atticus: and keep on my toes for when the crying starts.
[19:38] Adam Ant: right, but
[19:38] Adam Ant: don't announce it
[19:38] Atticus: right
[19:38] Adam Ant: let sleeping dogs lie
[19:38] Adam Ant: :p
[19:39] Atticus: not even to the mods though?
[19:39] Adam Ant: sure, but tell them to let sleeping dogs lie
[19:39] Atticus: will do
[19:39] Atticus: thanks ;)
[19:39] Adam Ant: np
[20:37] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/528827/Main/44217/#Post528827)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/528827/Main/44217/#Post52882(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/528827/Main/44217/#Post528827)7
[20:37] Atticus: yogi wanted you to see that.
[20:38] Atticus: last post, that is.
[21:09] Adam Ant: okay, I'm way over loaded atm .. trying to get breeding and housing done and I don't want to take on anything that could start a fire store either with the players, or with staff
[21:09] Atticus: figured
[21:09] Adam Ant: It's just not that important that I need to take this on right now .. 
Since there is debate, lets live with name changes and readdress when I have some cycles to deal with it
[21:10] Atticus: sounds good
[21:10] Atticus: kind of saw this coming :P
[21:10] Adam Ant: kk, sorry.. I'm just floored.. right now .. go look in the dev forum and you'll know what I'm talking about
[21:21] Atticus: np. I didn't have much of a problem with it, but i have a much more "deal with it" approach when moderating the forums than the other mods do :P
[21:22] Atticus: but i agree, the uproar that comes with the announcement isn't worth the time for anyone right now.
[21:22] Adam Ant: not at this time .. I have too much going on and no one to hand it off to to 'handle it'
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[10:04] Adam Ant: Hey Adam, this is Talon karde, but I forgot my password, thus the new forum name. Anyway, the reason for the PM. Im sure you noticed the recent jump in population. Penny Arcade has been joining like crazy. 
 
(Link: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=26581&page=20
)http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=26581&page=20 
You can read all their plans and the many many many people joining. 
 
Just thought you may want to get someone to run some events for this new faily big guild to introduce them to the many features. They are a bunch of really awesome guys. I played with them in WoW also. They should be quite active and form a pretty awesome guild with much roleplay. 
 
Cheers! 
 
- Talon Karde 
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[10:05] Adam Ant: I think your idea of quests and such are right on the mark
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[13:59] Atticus: yup, i think seers are the best thing right now.
[14:00] Atticus: mainly because getting them started will be fairly easy, thanks to hennarr getting all the guidelines and "how to" posts made.
[14:02] Adam Ant: well, seer stuff is further out .. I was suggesting player run events
[14:02] Atticus: oh
[14:02] Atticus: ya, already working on a bob vs fred.
[14:03] Atticus: got all the supplies yesterday ;)
[14:03] Atticus: figured that would be a good one for the PA crew
[14:03] Adam Ant: yep yep
[14:05] Atticus: which reminds me. Would you mind me moving a secure box with the guildstone this time? It would make a lot easier to hand basic supplies out (poison weapons/explosion pots)
[14:10] Adam Ant: a secure from the house?
[14:10] Atticus: ya. Not sure if it would even work, but i thought i'd ask before i put time into it.
[14:11] Adam Ant: well, there is alwaus the chance of crashing the shard when you do something on-the-fly like that
[14:11] Adam Ant: you would need to totally test it on TC fiorst
[14:11] Atticus: ok
[14:11] Adam Ant: make sure you can do it and it works as expected
[14:16] Adam Ant: does this make any sense to you?
[14:16] Adam Ant: help   
Pyre- Pyre-  
The Notable  
 
 
Registered: 04-24-2007  
Posts: 89  i attacked unknown mage because he was grey and got guard whacked. so did my pets, i just lost my nightmare and dragon along with 100 each reg. can you help me.  
[14:17] Atticus: what time was it sent?
[14:17] Adam Ant: 44456 - Yesterday at 11:39 PM help  

[14:18] Atticus: ok, i'll pm him on my forum felix acc. and look into it
[14:18] Adam Ant: thanks
[14:18] Atticus: maybe unkown just did the grey name trick
[14:18] Atticus: change text color to grey.... say name....
[14:18] Adam Ant: that's what I was thinking .. or clothes .. etc
[14:20] Atticus: seems the rest of our charming little community has found out about the PA people :P
[14:20] Adam Ant: griefing them?
[14:20] Atticus: yup
[14:20] Atticus: making chars to get in the guild, spying, killing macroers
[14:20] Adam Ant: heh
[14:21] Atticus: seen a few "what are these "bob" creatures, and why do they hate me so?" posts by them.
[14:23] Adam Ant: you think they are toughenough to take the heat?
[14:23] Atticus: some are, some arn't. I've been trying to lighten the shock for them by letting them know how things are ahead of time.
[14:24] Adam Ant: *nods*
[14:24] Atticus: They're having fun now though.
[14:25] Atticus: at very least, they're good to have around for now. Numbers attract numbers, and with dragon breeding/custom housing being almost done it will help a lot.
[14:25] Adam Ant: here is a simple quest you could pull off that I think would be a lot of fun...
[14:25] Atticus: sure, let's hear it.
[14:26] Adam Ant: get some donations, weapons, gold, black cloth .. whatever... 
convert into a player quest deed.. 
dress up like a pirate 
and go sailing!!
[14:26] Adam Ant: announce it on their boards mayve several days ahead of our boards to give them time to prepare
[14:26] Adam Ant: it could be drawn out for hours making for a lot of fun .. 
[14:27] Atticus: that'd be fun, but i've been getting a lot of reports about broken boats lately
[14:27] Adam Ant: call it Pirate Booty Quest
[14:27] Atticus: so might be good to look into that problem before i do a pirate quest.
[14:27] Adam Ant: I need them filed as bugs!! I can't fix them if I don't know about them
[14:27] Adam Ant: heh, what problem...
[14:27] Atticus: i posted it in the staff forum
[14:27] Adam Ant: kk
[14:28] Adam Ant: brief explanation?
[14:28] Atticus: tillermen have been ignoring commands at random.
[14:28] Atticus: I tested with one of the players keys the other day, too, and it didn't work
[14:28] Atticus: i know i had the right key because i locked/unlocked the boat with it, after that the tillerman still ignored me.
[14:29] Atticus: and before i got that page, a couple people complained about the same problem at a court session i did at the counselors guild
[14:29] Adam Ant: hmm, okay. write a an SR in the development forum and assign to me. 
Make it as short and concise as possible, and if you know of a way to reproduce, put that in there.
[14:30] Atticus: what's an SR? I don't go in the dev forum much
[14:30] Adam Ant: Script Request
[14:30] Atticus: ok
[14:31] Adam Ant: look at the ones that are there now and copy the format exactly
[14:31] Adam Ant: Subject line and messahe header
[14:32] Atticus: tay m'reals on staff now?
[14:33] Adam Ant: ADA: blah blah (Script Request) 
 
Developer: Adam 
Priority: Med 
 
blah blah blah
[14:33] Atticus: got it.
[16:15] Atticus: ok, so, this is one of the things i came up with in the events i've been working on, but i think it would help with player run events, too.
[16:16] Atticus: How bout a chicken fighting ring? I'd put the portal in the basement of that pub in brit east everyone keeps talking about
[16:16] Atticus: that goes to the ring, to make it look like an underground cock fighting ring.
[16:17] Adam Ant: is it under guard protection?
[16:17] Atticus: the bar? No
[16:17] Atticus: adds to the RP, i think :P
[16:17] Atticus: a dirty, secret cock fighting ring.
[16:17] Atticus: under some heathens bar in brit.
[16:18] Adam Ant: yeah, after I get the breeding and housing inline, I'll have some time to entertain all these iteas .. but for now .. I don't want to make and decisions on such things without more time to fully understand it
[16:20] Atticus: fine :P i'll stop bringing it up :P
[16:21] Adam Ant: yeah, sorry .. just busy atm
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jun 27 18:50:10 2007
[18:51] Atticus: ok, so RP forums. I went looking around at other shards forums to see how they setup their RP sections, and I think (and i hate to say this) UOgamers has the best setup. 3 simple forums, RP general discussion, their version of rogues den, and RP guild recruitment.
[18:51] Atticus: I'd like to copy them to at least show visitors that we try to promote RP, if it's ok with you.
[18:53] Adam Ant: what would you be changing?
[18:57] Atticus: not much.
[18:57] Atticus: might change RP recruitment to RP recruitment and Guild Lore
[18:58] Adam Ant: in what way?
[19:00] Atticus: that would just be the title.
[19:00] Atticus: Guilds could use that forum to recruit for their guild, or post history about their guild.
[19:00] Atticus: But, they could also just do that in Rogues Den.
[19:00] Atticus: The lore, that is.
[19:01] Adam Ant: ah, okay.. 
[19:02] Atticus: It adds 2 forums, but it also gets 1 out of the main forum board that the majority frequents
[19:03] Atticus: Since i'd give them all their own section.
[19:03] Adam Ant: any deletions?
[19:03] Atticus: It's part of a grander scheme (involving my never end push twords seers), but i'll get into that when the times right.
[19:03] Adam Ant: :p
[19:03] Atticus: Nope, no deletions
[19:04] Adam Ant: kk, make it so
[19:04] Atticus: I'd just move the rogues den into the RP section with the RP discussion and rp guild forum
[19:04] Atticus: sweet, thx.
[19:05] Adam Ant: *nods* .. makes sense
[19:05] Atticus: I'll have it all up sometime tonight or tomorrow afternoon, after i get the rules written out.
[19:06] Atticus: oh, plus i'll probably sticky that RPers guide in the staff section in the RP GD forum
[19:08] Adam Ant: is it public today?
[19:08] Atticus: the rp guide? no
[19:08] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/386136/page/1#Post386136)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/386136/page/1#Post386136
[19:08] Atticus: it's in the think tank
[19:09] Adam Ant: well, why is that going into the RP'ers forum?
[19:09] Adam Ant: staff foruems are the forums available to staff
[19:09] Adam Ant: staff shouldn't have to fisit all the other sections to find them in other sections
[19:09] Atticus: it's just a guide an old staff member wrote up, i think his intent was to make it public, and it just never got put in.
[19:10] Adam Ant: okay, make sure it's appropriate before taking it public
[19:10] Atticus: I read it over, it's actually pretty good
[19:11] Atticus: just basically touches on how to stay in character and what makes a RPer a RPer
[19:11] Adam Ant: alright
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jun 28 09:56:01 2007
[09:56] Adam Ant: I think it's time to dump Cassandra .. he's a good guy.. and did a couple of good tests .. but I don't like handing out staff access to those that are unavailable 99% of the time (and folks with a favor bank balance of 0)
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[09:56] Adam Ant: I'd like you to remove all of his access to the staff forums, and any title he may have ..I told him we would remove his access in 24 hours
[09:57] Adam Ant: so tomorrow at this time
[09:57] Adam Ant: the roster will also need updating
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[10:38] Adam Ant: alrighty .. he's all posted ,, you can remove his access any time
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[14:26] Atticus: ok
[14:26] Adam Ant: thanks :)
[14:34] Atticus: done
[14:34] Adam Ant: ty
[14:34] Atticus: yup
[15:42] Atticus: so, i setup a guild forum for the PA crew
[15:42] Atticus: would longstanding members creating AI forum accounts to get into the PA guild forum qualify as a scam?
[15:44] Adam Ant: I think that level of policing is outside our jurisdiction .. wouldn't you think?
[15:45] Atticus: well, i'm against rules about scamming. I understand the whole "the forums arn't the shard," thing, but when you connect rules to the forums that apply to the shard you connect them.
[15:45] Atticus: but, if it's going to be in place, might as well use it to our advantage.
[15:46] Adam Ant: what are you suggesting?
[15:46] Atticus: Me not adding anyone who creates a forum account to scout peoples guilds to their guild forum
[15:47] Adam Ant: alright .. I think it's touchy tho
[15:47] Adam Ant: if you doin't do it for everyone, we will have a big blow up
[15:47] Atticus: I don't think it's something that will happen often
[15:47] Adam Ant: especially if word gets out you are filtering for them
[15:47] Adam Ant: or you made a mistake .. etc
[15:48] Atticus: yea, the knitting circle really likes staff stew
[15:48] Atticus: it's all semantics, though.
[15:48] Atticus: a scams a scam, and the rules are clear
[15:49] Adam Ant: rules being clear are not the issue tho
[15:49] Atticus: ya
[15:49] Adam Ant: the issus is will you do the same for savages and orcs?
[15:49] Atticus: consistency is
[15:49] Adam Ant: right .. so
[15:49] Atticus: i hate these damn forums :P
[15:50] Adam Ant: if you do this .. you should make an announcement that you will vett new guild members to performing X test
[15:50] Atticus: what test?
[15:50] Adam Ant: well, how ever you plan on doing it for PA .. 
[15:51] Adam Ant: oh, are thinking about looking at game characters?
[15:51] Atticus: god no
[15:51] Adam Ant: or just board accounts
[15:51] Atticus: board accounts
[15:51] Adam Ant: okay, whatever you decide could work should be offered to all guild masters
[15:51] Atticus: phone
[15:51] Atticus: brb
[15:52] Adam Ant: (guild masters being the ones incharg of the forum)
[15:52] Adam Ant: kk
[15:56] Atticus: sorry, was my dealership, had to bring my car in yesterday
[15:57] Atticus: the thing with guilds like orc and such is that they have open recruitment.
[15:57] Atticus: i can identify people that arn't supposed to be in PA because they would have other forum accounts
[15:58] Adam Ant: well .. you need to position this in terms where you are not performing private duties for PA least we get in a board war (where we are wrong and playing favorites.)
[15:58] Atticus: ok
[15:59] Adam Ant: IF you do not wish to make this offer to guilds with open enrolement, than say that .. say that "if you guild forum should be private, AND you ask, I will perform test X top ensure you are not being scammed."
[15:59] Adam Ant: You also need to follow with a disclaimer as to your limitations ...
[15:59] Adam Ant: and the ability for folks to scam around your tests .. 
[15:59] Atticus: I'll just add something along the lines of "permissions to guild forums will be investigated to ensure the upkeep of the scamming policies"
[16:00] Adam Ant: Franky, I do not think it's worth it
[16:01] Atticus: well, the real problem is it's only worth it right now.
[16:01] Atticus: but probably wont be later
[16:01] Atticus: I'll just let them learn the hard way
[16:01] Atticus: tuff love :P
[16:07] Adam Ant: you will not communicate the other identity right? 
only that "it looks like thay may have another account" ... not what the account is, the name or the guild
[16:07] Adam Ant: etc
[16:07] Atticus: nope
[16:07] Atticus: maybe send a PM to the scammer though, and let him know why he was denied.
[16:08] Atticus: with a link to the scam policy
[16:08] Atticus: The main thing for me isn't keeping up with it for everyone, but more that if i make the change and the announcement that it might light a fire
[16:09] Atticus: and just get more of the knitting circle doing it.
[16:09] Adam Ant: man, I just think this is one of those issues
[16:09] Atticus: that makes you want to nuke the forums?
[16:09] Atticus: me too!
[16:10] Adam Ant: the mods on Penny Arcard aren't vetting Atticus to make sure he isn't 
[16:10] Adam Ant: I think this is stepping oiutside the role...
[16:10] Adam Ant: you admin the forums .,. not filter guild memberships
[16:11] Atticus: true
[16:11] Atticus: should just drop the whole scamming policy :P
[16:11] Adam Ant: lets not do this, because not only is it likely to blow up in our faces, but is does no good as they can simply join the guild in game
[16:12] Atticus: right on, sounds good
[16:15] Atticus: "Massive swarms of PKs have descended upon the house and killed many. It's over. 
  
 It's time to pretty much pack up and leave that hell hole. SDI made huge mistake by going public while everyone was still a god damned noob. Either that or someone has apparently led enemies to this thread and our guildhouses. SDI was eaten from within. 
  
  
 To the seas, and beyond!"
[16:15] Atticus: at least they're still in high spirits :P
[16:16] Adam Ant: :)
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[20:20] Adam Ant: did you change anything on the boards possibly ALLOWING multiple players with the same name? 
(by accident of course)
[20:26] Atticus: no... and i looked into the admin logs to make sure he didn't gain access to any of our accounts
[20:27] Atticus: i'm not exactly sure how he pulled that off.
[20:27] Adam Ant: heh, looks like he added a space to his name :\
[20:27] Atticus: ?
[20:27] Adam Ant: two spaces between the words 
[20:27] Adam Ant: Hello Kitty 
Hello  Kitty 

[20:28] Atticus: i did a page search and it showed the 2 as 100% identical
[20:28] Adam Ant: he's now banned and I renamed him to "i'm a dumb shit"
[20:28] Atticus: ya, well, that was aesop.
[20:28] Adam Ant: trust me..
[20:28] Atticus: and i've been nearly 100% sure that he's coby seagram since aesop came around
[20:28] Adam Ant: I need to run home, I'll follow up from there
[20:28] Atticus: ok
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jun 28 21:44:38 2007
[21:44] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/529911/page/1#Post529911)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/529911/page/1#Post529911
[21:44] Atticus: I never jailed anyone before, so i figured i should link you for review?
[21:45] Adam Ant: I can't read those .. did you use [report?
[21:45] Atticus: no
[21:45] Adam Ant: okay, rule #1
[21:45] Atticus: i witnessed the event, so i just jailed him
[21:45] Adam Ant: always use [report
[21:45] Atticus: ok
[21:46] Adam Ant: it's concrete and there is no deed to do screen captures ,, AND it grabs stuff they sayed minutes befoe
[21:46] Atticus: well, he paged me because he for some mysterious reason couldn't access the boards (this is the fake flannery flynn that you banned)
[21:46] Adam Ant: ho long ago did you jaul him?
[21:46] Adam Ant: *how long ago
[21:46] Atticus: 20 minutes?
[21:47] Adam Ant: kk .. too long to do the [report thing
[21:47] Adam Ant: but next time!
[21:47] Atticus: his comments were "you fucking queer, go smoke cock"
[21:47] Adam Ant: okay, now tell me  
1. Exactaly how did you jail him 
2. what was the worst thing he said
[21:47] Atticus: i just used the [jail command... i think that's a 12 hour sentence?
[21:47] Adam Ant: :)
[21:48] Adam Ant: good and good
[21:48] Adam Ant: you done good :)
[21:48] Atticus: also
[21:48] Adam Ant: (all but the [report thingie ;p)
[21:48] Atticus: not sure if you care any more, but this lead to some more proof that he's coby seagram
[21:49] Atticus: apparently in IRC Big Cheezit (whom i know for sure is coby seagram, as i've heard him in vent and such, and know cobys voice)
[21:49] Atticus: changed his name to Flannery Flynn
[21:49] Atticus: after i jailed flannery in game, the flannery flynn in IRC (previously Big Cheezit, befre his forum banning) started ranting about being jailed
[21:49] Atticus: so, flannery flynn/aesop/etc = coby seagram
[21:50] Adam Ant: probably
[21:50] Adam Ant: do you have access to [watch
[21:50] Atticus: ya
[21:50] Adam Ant: put a watch on him
[21:50] Atticus: that's actually why i was still around for his comments
[21:50] Atticus: i was adding him to watch
[21:50] Adam Ant: :)
[21:51] Atticus: but, next time... should i [report then jail?
[21:51] Atticus: or just [report him and wait for review?
[21:52] Adam Ant: probably to let "blow a cock" slide unless someone reports it .. 
[21:52] Adam Ant: we don't want to start dogging people we don't like
[21:52] Adam Ant: leads to all sorts of problems
[21:54] Atticus: ok
[21:58] Adam Ant: oh, so you want to go post this bug/enhancement on the UBB boards? 
The bug is that names should ignore whitespaces when comparing otherwise it discounts the usefulness of 'unique names' .. and then give the example
[21:58] Atticus: sure
[21:59] Atticus: remind me tomorrow though
[21:59] Adam Ant: kk, :p
[21:59] Atticus: i got a 6:00am start about an 75 minutes away
[21:59] Atticus: so i'm off to bed
[22:00] Adam Ant: alright man, good night 

[22:00] Atticus: g'night
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jun 29 17:36:23 2007
[17:37] Atticus: if (Link: http://www.liteplayer.com/home.php)this is something that could be added to the forums, I think i could probably figure out how to use it to add cleaner flash videos to the news posts, if that's something you want.
[17:39] Atticus: i get the code and all that, i just know if it can be added to forums and made so that it will read the code in posts.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jun 29 19:00:08 2007
[19:00] Adam Ant: hmm? not sure what we're talking about
[19:00] Adam Ant: what flash videos?
[19:39] Atticus: yea.
[19:39] Atticus: but can't talk now, i'm heading out
[19:39] Adam Ant: okay .. have a good evening!
[19:39] Atticus: you too ;)
[19:39] Adam Ant: will do!
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jul 01 13:13:35 2007
[13:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/530453/Main/44351/#Post530453)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/530453/Main/44351/#Post53045(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/530453/Main/44351/#Post530453)3
[13:13] Atticus: last 2 posts
[13:41] Adam Ant: replied
[15:51] Atticus: Have you ever heard of freewebs.com?
[16:05] Adam Ant: hmm, maybe
[16:05] Atticus: It's just a free web hosting site... you can make simple web pages with it very easily.
[16:05] Atticus: If you wanted, I could make one to transfer all the playguide info and stuff into it.
[16:06] Atticus: and ditch a lot of forums.
[16:07] Adam Ant: um.. I'm a web hose :P
[16:08] Adam Ant: *host
[16:08] Adam Ant: if you want a web, just say so
[16:08] Atticus: Well, i don't know html, the reason i would have to use this is because it makes it really simple to create the site.
[16:08] Adam Ant: right... but then it's not owned by GMN .. and we've lost control over it..
[16:09] Atticus: I THINK you can make the site with it then host it somewhere else though... I just wanted to see if it's something you'd even want.
[16:09] Adam Ant: we need to keep GMN content on the GMN site
[16:10] Adam Ant: it's an odd process that .. better to get a web publishing package and just build the web directally on a web I setup
[16:11] Adam Ant: there are lots of good web punlishing packages out there .. where you don't have to know HTML .. these free web sites didn't invent that !
[16:11] Atticus: hmmm
[16:11] Atticus: I think my brother actually has one of the best ones there is...
[16:12] Atticus: he had something or other to do with the web design at his college
[16:12] Atticus: is it even something you'd want? If so, i'll look into it.
[16:14] Adam Ant: well, here's the deal... 
Anyone can update guides in the forums .. I've had several embark on converting it to a WEB, and they never finished. 
Had they finished THEN disappeared, we'de be left with content that only someone with these special tools could manage.
[16:14] Adam Ant: case in pount: 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/~playguide/)http://www.game-master.net/~playguide/
[16:15] Atticus: i'm not goin' anywhere :P you're stuck with me :P
[16:16] Adam Ant: well, then my question is three fold... 
1. Why do it? 
2. can you do a better job than the forums? 
3. The forums have search .. how will players search the web?
[16:17] Atticus: 1. Web pages are more professional, and people are more inclined to look at them for info the need.
[16:17] Atticus: 2. I don't know!
[16:17] Atticus: 3. also don't know, maybe 1 of those google toolbars like in the forums?
[16:18] Adam Ant: okay :p ..  
so you want to take this on?
[16:18] Adam Ant: it's a big job .. but I think you're right, it could look a lot better
[16:19] Atticus: I'm up for it, but it'll take time. I'm not exactly a web guru, but I can figure just about anything out that i set out to.
[16:19] Atticus: so, first I'll see if i can get my brothers publishing thing... which I should be able to, since he doesn't go to that college any more, and has just been doing research
[16:20] Atticus: If not, I'll look and see if i can create one on freeweb.com and transfer the page to your domain so you own it.
[16:20] Adam Ant: okay, start by getting yourself a nice web publishing package .. when you've got the hang of it .. I'll get you the pawwword/login infor for that playguide forum
[16:20] Adam Ant: err.. web
[16:21] Atticus: ok
[16:21] Atticus: It's all gonna take time though, i want to do it right... well organized, etc.
[16:21] Adam Ant: :)
[17:51] Atticus: ok, i'm all setup and ready to go.
[17:52] Atticus: if theres anything not in the playguide/bsi or what ever that you want on the page, like certain images and what not
[17:52] Atticus: let me know
[17:56] Atticus: or a specific background... things like that.
[18:21] Adam Ant: well, if the web name [layguide appropriate?
[18:21] Adam Ant: *playguide?
[18:25] Atticus: hm
[18:25] Atticus: suer
[18:25] Atticus: sure
[18:25] Atticus: how do you want me to do this though?
[18:26] Atticus: Do you want me to set this up like a "front page" for the shard? With an introduction and all that jazz?
[18:26] Atticus: and include all the comics and stuff on it?
[18:26] Atticus: or do you want me to make like a playguide specific page?
[18:31] Adam Ant: no, we have a large investment in the front page, with the news .. and how it looks like the forums.... 
I thought you had a plan, lol
[18:31] Adam Ant: lets start this way....
[18:31] Atticus: I do. I just have 2 dif. options in my head ;)
[18:31] Adam Ant: put thje playguide on that /playguide site
[18:33] Adam Ant: create an index.html in that web, and make it the playguide only...
[18:33] Adam Ant: then when we see what we havem and how ot looks and whatnot, we can make the next decisions
[18:35] Atticus: sounds good.
[18:37] Atticus: I'm using a publisher instead of freewebs, so i'll need the pw to put it all up.
[18:38] Adam Ant: sure, let me get that for you
[18:43] Adam Ant: URL: (Link: ftp://www.game-master.net/
)ftp://www.game-master.net/ 
User: playguide 
Pass: pg2007
[18:44] Adam Ant: not the renaissance.pdf file .. don't delete that .. link to it for UO basics
[18:45] Atticus: ok
[18:45] Adam Ant: *note
[18:45] Adam Ant: there is an images directory .. put images there ;p
[18:46] Atticus: ok
[18:46] Adam Ant: usually uour HTML will go in the root, and images get put in the images directory
[18:46] Atticus: Might not even use images.
[18:46] Atticus: that was just for if you wanted a front page. The playguide will be pretty simple.
[18:47] Adam Ant: kk
[18:48] Adam Ant: just don't delete the forum version .. evenb when we decide to move the the web, I'll probably opt to just turn the forum OFF
[18:48] Atticus: of course
[18:48] Adam Ant: :p
[18:50] Atticus: ok
[18:51] Atticus: i'm gonna go through the tutorial for NVU for a bit today, and probably tomorrow
[18:51] Atticus: after that, i'll start the playguide, which probably wont take long.
[18:51] Adam Ant: NVU?
[18:51] Atticus: the publisher i'm using.
[18:51] Adam Ant: ah, alright
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jul 02 15:29:38 2007
[15:30] Atticus: I'm putting the playguide off for just a little bit untill i get can get someone (my brother) to help me out with a few technical things.
[15:30] Atticus: just letting you know
[15:31] Adam Ant: alrighty...  
Would you be interested in two new sections (for the forums for now)
[15:31] Atticus: such as?
[15:31] Adam Ant: Breeding and New Houses
[15:32] Atticus: what do you want them to be used for/how do you want them moderated?
[15:32] Adam Ant: no no, sections for the playguide (to be plublished in the playguide forum for now)
[15:33] Atticus: oh, chapters, sure.
[15:33] Atticus: get me all the public info i need for them and i'll get them posted.
[15:34] Adam Ant: well, *that's* the tricky bit .. you will be working from technicle diocuments and creating the public posts .. you will need to use our 'no numbers' philosophy in the right up...
[15:35] Adam Ant: You wan't say feed black perar for X effect .. you will say "it is rumored that feeding certain substances may enhance chances for a successful breed."
[15:35] Atticus: ok, i think the "no numbers" philosophy should probably be ignored when it comes to the new houses though, especially how pricing will work for private houses.
[15:36] Atticus: people will want to know exactly what they're getting into for something like that.
[15:36] Adam Ant: not sure what you mean .. an NPC architect will show the prices
[15:37] Adam Ant: ity's not a secret
[15:37] Atticus: for creating private custom houses, i mean.
[15:37] Adam Ant: creation is not for this guide
[15:38] Atticus: ok
[15:38] Adam Ant: creation is really something enbtirely different and should not be provided in this chapter (except maybe in passing)
[15:38] Adam Ant: this is how to purchase New houses, and ho players will need to add doors and storage
[15:38] Atticus: so just some screen shots of the new houses and how they were created?
[15:39] Adam Ant: how?
[15:39] Adam Ant: we don't want to open the door to Custoim Housing type discussions
[15:39] Atticus: short explaination that the community was involved in creating and voting on them, etc.
[15:39] Atticus: ok
[15:39] Adam Ant: it only confuses matters .. suffice it to say that these houses were created by players
[15:40] Adam Ant: maybe link to another chapter on House Design, or maybe the forum if players are interested ..
[15:40] Atticus: sounds good.
[15:41] Adam Ant: byt thie chapter is really focused on the fact that we have new houses... same rules as old houses .. they have no doors, and that storage is limited to 2 lockboxes and two secures (you need to buy storage)
[15:41] Adam Ant: think of it from a Buyers perspective
[15:41] Adam Ant: that's who we're talking to
[15:41] Adam Ant: customers
[15:41] Atticus: can do
[15:42] Adam Ant: breeding .. there is a very nice technical write up in the Library (you read it .)
[15:43] Atticus: ya
[15:43] Adam Ant: I'll want to see both of these posts before thay go public tho
[15:43] Atticus: ok
[15:43] Atticus: when's breeding/housing going live?
[15:43] Adam Ant: today
[15:43] Atticus: hoozah!
[15:43] Adam Ant: yep!
[15:43] Atticus: Both of them?
[15:44] Adam Ant: yep
[15:44] Atticus: .... mmmmm seers.
[15:44] Atticus: :P\
[15:44] Adam Ant: only a handful of houses today .. bore to follow each day until I publish all approved houses
[15:46] Atticus: ok, well, i'll work on a news post today
[15:46] Atticus: and get started on more descriptive posts for the playguide tomorrow
[15:47] Adam Ant: no, hold off for a couiple days .. I don't want to make a big deal in case we have a couple bugs to start
[15:47] Adam Ant: (hold off on the news)
[15:47] Adam Ant: or at least don't publish it
[15:47] Adam Ant: in a few day we will make the news known far and wide
[15:48] Atticus: ok
[15:48] Atticus: I'll probably post a suggestion in the staff forum after everything goes live, too.
[15:50] Atticus: then when all bugs are worked out, i'll do some advertising.
[15:53] Adam Ant: me too
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[16:05] Adam Ant: okay, if you can keep and eye on the boards and game for any weirdness .. I just merged and need a quick alert if anything is wrong
[16:05] Atticus: sure
[16:06] Atticus: where are the houses being sold?
[16:07] Adam Ant: they will be on the NPC Architect and in a new preview neighborhood. 
[16:07] Adam Ant: neither are active yet
[16:07] Adam Ant: houses should be on the NPC later today tho .. as soon as I can capture a few
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[01:30] Adam Ant: Woo! your dream come true!! 
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[08:08] Atticus: good deal. I'll try to get the playguide writeups added tomorrow
[08:08] Atticus: well, sent to you to look them over.
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[10:37] Adam Ant: Good :)
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[18:07] Atticus: hey, the housing area in green acres isn't closed off
[18:09] Atticus: the guy that paged about it is afk, but i assume he recalled over the hedges.
[18:49] Adam Ant: yeah.. I know about it, thanks
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[15:54] Atticus: howdy... with the breeding chapter for the playguide, i'm toying with the idea of leaving it bulletpointed. Not (entirely :P ) because i'm lazy, but because theres so much to it and it will make it easier for players to find the info on it that they want.
[15:54] Atticus: what do you think?
[15:55] Adam Ant: probably ok.. not very rp tho ;p
[15:56] Atticus: most of the playguide isn't very rp, and that's probably best, since it's a tool for people to gather info.
[15:56] Adam Ant: *nods*
[15:56] Atticus: but i can add a little blurb to spice it up in the beginning if you want?
[15:57] Adam Ant: sure, since this is such a technicle subject I think the bullets are ok
[15:57] Atticus: ok, great
[15:58] Atticus: and i havn't forgotten about the web playguide, i'll get to it pretty soon.
[15:58] Atticus: theres just something i need to do with this publisher that i have, and it might get an undesired affect, so when i get some advice from my brother (computer/web wiz/html wiz), i'll get that up.
[15:59] Adam Ant: okay, np
[15:59] Adam Ant: I'm just working on getting the next batch of houses up
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[14:43] Atticus: breeding chapter sent via PM.
[14:43] Adam Ant: thanks, I'll go have a look
[14:43] Atticus: i just cropped TK's writeup from the dev forum to remove formulas and "invisible" features.
[14:44] Atticus: but left the "must know numbers" like how long it takes for an egg to hatch, and stuff like that.
[14:45] Adam Ant: okay, thanks... you're using your judgment on what you thinks needs to be there vs what is 'discovery'?
[14:45] Atticus: one thing you'll want to look at closely is the stuff i left in the egg part
[14:45] Atticus: not sure if i left too much detail in there or not
[14:45] Atticus: and ya, i am.
[14:45] Adam Ant: okay.. and you do understand our whole 'discovery' philosophy?
[14:45] Atticus: yup
[14:45] Atticus: and agree with it.
[14:46] Adam Ant: okay, then 
[14:46] Atticus: i just left the stuff i think players need to know to take part in it and understand why they'll like it.
[14:46] Adam Ant: I'll have a read
[14:46] Adam Ant: yep, sounds good. 
it maybe broken atm .. testing it now.. but I can't get my pair to breed
[14:47] Atticus: well, shit.
[14:47] Atticus: that's no good
[14:47] Adam Ant: well, we'll fix it.. just wish taran was around 
[14:59] Atticus: oh, btw, about that "crash bug" thing.... i was on kadull last week and had that happen with me again, against a group that seemed like it might be 666 (cannonball pete, the player in question).
[14:59] Atticus: but he was too quick to log before i could check to see if it was him.
[15:00] Adam Ant: so they were able to crash your client?
[15:00] Atticus: seems like it...
[15:00] Atticus: i dont crash much, and the last time this happened was in fact against 666
[15:01] Atticus: i had been running circles around them on atti for a good 20 minutes while they tried to kill me
[15:01] Adam Ant: okay, keep an eye on this .. if it happens again we'll dig deeper (it's difficult)
[15:01] Atticus: then, they all stopped and just followed me without actually trying to kill... then a couple more popped on screen, then a couple seconds later i crashed and died
[15:01] Atticus: basically the same thing happened this last time with kad.
[15:02] Atticus: actually, the first time they all upped their spells right before i crashed.
[15:03] Adam Ant: hmm
[15:04] Atticus: so, the sequence was: me running around just fine for 20 minutes, 1 or 2 more people popped on screen, everyone upping flamestrikes (not even small spells, spells they knew would give me a chance to get off screen), i crashed, i died.
[15:05] Atticus: twice it's happened now.
[15:05] Adam Ant: what client do you use?
[15:06] Atticus: AoS? i believe
[15:06] Atticus: fully patched
[15:07] Adam Ant: kk
[16:27] Adam Ant: alright .. I'll go read your post now... but fyi 
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[16:46] Atticus: good to know, thanks.
[18:48] Atticus: Hey, could i ask a personal favor of you?
[18:57] Atticus: a long time ago you setup an email thingy for NEW so that NEW members could register on it and I could send out news letters to them.... I was wondering if i could get another one of those for something i plan on setting up? I want to start a sort of "Bob Ring." Players would register for it then i'd send out news letters for shards we would go bob at. I wouldn't advertise it on angel island, of course, since it has the chance to pull people to other shards.
[18:58] Atticus: if it takes away from the server or anything and you don't want to do it, that's understandable, though.
[20:05] Adam Ant: sure, give me the addy you want 
[20:05] Atticus: how about just BoB
[20:05] Atticus: oh, wait, i gotta setup a mail account for it, dont i?
[20:06] Adam Ant: um, no.. 
[20:06] Adam Ant: it can go to another email
[20:07] Adam Ant: but you need to select the dist list name
[20:07] Adam Ant: like new@game-master.net
[20:07] Adam Ant: or bobring@game-master.net
[20:07] Adam Ant: whatever
[20:07] Atticus: ok, BoB@game-master.net then
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[22:39] Adam Ant: do you want it password protected so that only the password holder can send to the list? 
ro do you want it so that anyone can send to the entire list
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[23:06] Adam Ant: *created*
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[12:16] Adam Ant: alrighty, I've replied (and updated) the breeding chapter. I removed all the numbers and replaced them with less scientific sounding terminology. Please compare side by side the way I present such topics .. it's really quite subtle, but I believe it lends itself towards discovery while still communicating the information needed.
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[12:17] Adam Ant: I also added the whole bit about kukui nut opt-in .. crucial for PvM types that want no part of the system and do not want to have their pets grow old and feeble.
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[14:35] Atticus: argh, forgot about the kukui nut thing.
[14:47] Atticus: ok, not complaints from me on your updates to the chapter. I'll get it posted.
[14:47] Atticus: thanks for the email thing, too. Did you end up password protecting it?
[15:33] Adam Ant: nope, it not protected, so any subscribers can email
[15:42] Atticus: ok, i guess i just wont tell anyone about that and hope nobody figures it out
[15:42] Atticus: thanks for setting it up, i'll let you know when i get it all going in case you wanna make a bob :P
[15:42] Atticus: it'll prolly be monday.
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[10:58] Atticus: heyo, will you be able to drop a couple spawners for the bob vs fred event today?
[10:58] Adam Ant: sure, what time? (how long from now)
[10:59] Atticus: 11:00pm server time
[11:04] Atticus: the stones will be at a different place this time though
[11:05] Atticus: hmm, come to think of it i forgot to run this past you.... any objection to me moving the bob/fred stones to the jhelom docks?
[11:33] Adam Ant: no that's fine .. just remember thay poof after like 12-24 hours
[11:33] Atticus: yup
[11:33] Atticus: i know :P
[11:33] Adam Ant: :P
[14:47] Adam Ant: hmm, where are the guild stones?
[14:48] Atticus: havn't moved them yet
[14:48] Atticus: want me to do that now? or come to you?
[14:48] Adam Ant: should I setup the spawners?
[14:48] Atticus: sure
[14:48] Adam Ant: you're driving ;p
[14:48] Atticus: one sec... i'll page ya
[14:48] Adam Ant: jhelom pit?
[14:48] Adam Ant: 112 online :)
[14:49] Atticus: hoping to have loads on for this event
[14:49] Atticus: i IMed a good 75 people
[14:49] Atticus: so far
[14:49] Adam Ant: hey can you go to the fred location of last time .. I think I have the spawners there .. I can just move those to the new location
[14:50] Atticus: sure
[14:50] Atticus: i'm there
[14:50] Atticus: i think
[14:51] Adam Ant: rats, I must have deleted them ;p
[14:51] Adam Ant: okay.. let me know when you have the stones
[14:51] Adam Ant: up
[14:51] Atticus: i can show you where i'm gonna put them now
[14:51] Atticus: if you want
[14:52] Adam Ant: sure .. you have the fred hue?
[14:52] Adam Ant: all I need is a sample
[14:52] Atticus: i have a dye tub on me
[14:52] Adam Ant: sweet
[14:52] Atticus: ok, head to where felix is
[14:53] Adam Ant: I'm there .. that bob or fred or both?
[14:53] Atticus: just fred
[14:53] Atticus: bob will be in the unguarded part of the other docks
[14:53] Adam Ant: stay put for a sec
[14:53] Atticus: can you pass me a fancy dress?
[14:54] Adam Ant: infront of you
[14:54] Atticus: ok, that's a fred dress
[14:55] Atticus: need jester hats of the same color, too
[14:55] Adam Ant: kk
[14:55] Atticus: heading to the bob stone location
[14:55] Adam Ant: kk
[14:56] Atticus: ok, i'm there
[14:58] Adam Ant: is bob 123 or 23?
[14:59] Atticus: ?
[14:59] Atticus: hue?
[14:59] Adam Ant: yes
[14:59] Atticus: i can't see the hue as a counselor
[15:00] Adam Ant: okay drop one 
[15:00] Adam Ant: kk, that's 23
[15:01] Atticus: ooo, can you set one of these barrels to be functioning, too?
[15:02] Atticus: that way we can store our pots/weapons in there
[15:02] Adam Ant: sec
[15:02] Adam Ant: ya, this barrell at the end of the dock works
[15:03] Atticus: awesome
[15:03] Atticus: one at the fred stone, too?
[15:04] Adam Ant: sure
[15:06] Atticus: thanks a bunch ;)
[15:07] Adam Ant: okay, logging for a bit
[15:07] Adam Ant: ICQ me if you need me
[15:08] Atticus: will do, thanks again.
[15:25] Adam Ant: mp
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[19:07] Atticus: if you get a chance could you drop a message or 2 that the event has started?
[19:50] Adam Ant: please give me exact text
[19:50] Atticus: ah, don't worry about it now.
[19:50] Atticus: 50 minutes into it and not a single fred showed up
[19:50] Atticus: and only 2 or 3 bobs
[19:50] Adam Ant: :\
[19:51] Adam Ant: you sure you don't want an announce? we have 106 online
[19:51] Atticus: hmm
[19:51] Atticus: ya, might as well try to givem something
[19:51] Atticus: lets see... text...
[19:52] Atticus: well, actually
[19:52] Atticus: my co-host seems to have logged, so an announcement might be a bad idea
[19:52] Adam Ant: alrighty
[19:55] Atticus: hold on, i spotted him.
[20:05] Atticus: ya, he wants to hold off
[20:05] Atticus: we're gonna do it again on thurdsday, i think the turnout was bad because i screwed up the time on the announcement and didn't realize it untill like 2 hours ago
[20:05] Adam Ant: sure, ok
[20:06] Atticus: will you be around on thursday?
[20:06] Adam Ant: um.. yes, I think so
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jul 11 16:57:12 2007
[16:58] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/531361/page/1#Post531361)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/531361/page/1#Post531361(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=532795&page=0#Post532795)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/531361/page/1#Post531361)
[16:58] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/532795/page/1#Post532795)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/532795/page/1#Post532795
[16:58] Atticus: :P
[16:58] Atticus: !
[17:02] Adam Ant: can I call you?
[17:03] Atticus: but... seems i gotta track my phone down.
[17:04] Adam Ant: what's your rl name?
[17:05] Atticus: Jon
[17:05] Atticus: (athon)
[18:15] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/531245/page/1/fpart/1#Post531341)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/531245/page/1/fpart/1#Post531341
[18:15] Atticus: that the guy you want?
[18:18] Atticus: for the housing critiques, that is...
[18:21] Adam Ant: ya, DisarmedSoldier 
[18:22] Adam Ant: but I wouldn't position it as critiques, but rather our 'housing news' or listings, or something
[18:22] Adam Ant: heh, realtor :)
[18:22] Atticus: ok, so how do you plan for this to work? You want him to write critiques for the playguide?
[18:23] Atticus: ok, understood... and they will go in the playguide?
[18:23] Adam Ant: for now, lets start simple... he gets a sticky thread in the housing forum .. and you keep it locked after he posts
[18:23] Atticus: ok. Approved houses only? or for houses players post?
[18:24] Adam Ant: on Prod
[18:24] Atticus: ok.
[18:24] Adam Ant: after I release a Housing Update, he updates his thread
[18:27] Atticus: ok, i'll see if he's interested.
[18:28] Adam Ant: thanks
[18:31] Adam Ant: the boards feel faster to me :)
[18:31] Adam Ant: you too?
[18:31] Atticus: definately.
[18:32] Atticus: i always had a pretty noticable pause when running through threads... not so much any more.
[19:23] Adam Ant: I like the last Mortal standing a lot
[19:23] Adam Ant: :)
[19:25] Adam Ant: we have gates that require that you be mortal to enter (I believe) .. I know we have a filter for ghosts only, and empty backpack .. we can add mortals. 
Also, we can turn on Secure Premises  for the event castle which will prevent any existing runes from working there.
[19:25] Adam Ant: and the reward is just fine
[19:31] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=532816&page=0#Post532816)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=532816&page=0#Post532816
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[19:34] Atticus: awesome.
[19:40] Atticus: ya, that'll be really easy to run to if you guys have mortal gates.
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[14:33] Atticus: does the event tower have it's own region controller?
[14:59] Adam Ant: yes :)
[15:02] Atticus: sweet. did you want a timeline for events as simple as the last mortal standing thing? or should i not bother?
[15:04] Adam Ant: nah, LMS is clear enough.. however I do need to know: 
1. when the event is 
2. what needs to be changed at the event castle 
3. event start/stop time
[15:05] Atticus: castle should be fine like it is, other than the region stuff.
[15:05] Atticus: recalling in will need to be turned off, as well as gating out.
[15:05] Atticus: and would probably be a good idea to turn combat off before the event starts, so people don't get ahead of themselves.
[15:06] Adam Ant: turning off 'combat' may be tough
[15:07] Atticus: isn't it an option on the region controller?
[15:07] Atticus: it was on a shard i seered for a long time ago, but i think they used a newer version of runuo
[15:08] Adam Ant: well, puit all your requirements in that thread, and point me at it when you're done
[15:17] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=533130&page=0#Post533130)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=533130&page=0#Post533130
[16:01] Atticus: the reason i didn't give a date is because i'm not sure how this gonna go...
[16:01] Atticus: Am I going to be running this thing? Setting everything up, etc. Or are you/someone else going to do it?\
[16:03] Adam Ant: I'll do the technical stuffs, you'll do the organization in game and on the boards
[16:05] Atticus: ok, what dates good for you then?
[16:06] Adam Ant: a couple weeks is fine.. I need to check with the wife tho, we will be taking a few days vacation .. not sure of the dates
[16:09] Atticus: ok, let me know if July 29 is good.
[16:09] Adam Ant: alright
[16:10] Atticus: that's 2 weeks from this coming sunday.
[16:12] Adam Ant: k, I'll find out and let you know
[16:19] Adam Ant: yep, the 29th is good
[16:20] Atticus: ok
[16:20] Atticus: and, does this mean i got denied for the promotion? :P
[16:21] Adam Ant: no, I just can't do anything now.. need to get some stuff done at work
[16:23] Atticus: righto. well, i'll get the announcement up before i log off.
[16:23] Atticus: i'll see if Gilah is up for helping with doing some stuff to the castle when I/she gets a chance.
[16:26] Adam Ant: oh, that would be good .. she's a good resource to tap into
[17:19] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533162/page/1#Post533162)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533162/page/1#Post533162
[17:31] Adam Ant: let me start by saying the avatar!
[17:31] Atticus: like it?
[17:31] Adam Ant: we staff ALL need a cartoon avatar!!
[17:31] Adam Ant: yes :)
[17:31] Atticus: lol
[17:32] Adam Ant: finger-fart
[17:32] Atticus: gotta add some firework graphics to the sig now that i got my fireworks wand for him, too ;)
[17:33] Adam Ant: loks good .. remind be once we are 5'ish days from the event
[17:33] Atticus: ok
[17:35] Adam Ant: did you see that 'suggestions' post by Max Loot?
[17:36] Atticus: ya, big asshole.
[17:36] Adam Ant: if I weren't so mature, I'd make this line of his my sig ;) 
 
"It's not bad. just take out all the restrictions and gayness and it would be perfect"
[17:37] Atticus: if i was allowed i'd just hit the red button and banzor him :P
[17:37] Adam Ant: nah...
[17:37] Adam Ant: it's guys like him that ralley the player base :)
[17:38] Adam Ant: lol! and it's making me laugh!! 
 
"hey, Medwin, what was that shard that we were talkin about earlier... something Unicorns....itd be perfect for this guy. "
[17:39] Atticus: ya, that's the good part about people like max
[17:39] Atticus: brings out the good side of the rest of the community
[17:48] Atticus: So, this salesmans going door to door. He goes up to one house, knocks on the door, and this 15~ year old kid answers.
[17:48] Atticus: He's got a beer in one hand, a playboy under his arm, and his smokin a cigar
[17:48] Atticus: salesman says "Hey, are your parents home?"
[17:48] Atticus: Kid says "wtf do you think?"
[17:49] Adam Ant: lol
[17:54] Adam Ant: do you know how CTF works on the other shards?
[17:55] Atticus: yup
[17:55] Atticus: and replacing server wars with CTF = a good idea in my book.
[17:55] Adam Ant: can you give me a detailed breakdown 
[17:55] Atticus: well, theres actually scripts you can copy on the runuo boards.
[17:56] Atticus: i'll look for one for you.
[17:56] Adam Ant: no.
[17:56] Atticus: and if you want, i can build a kick-ass arena for it.
[17:56] Atticus: ok :P
[17:56] Adam Ant: just give me the overview
[17:56] Atticus: it's just how it sounds.
[17:56] Atticus: players fight in an arena to "capture" flags.
[17:57] Atticus: first, you set the flags in a base.
[17:57] Atticus: then, players are assigned to teams.
[17:57] Atticus: team red, team blue, team a team b, what ever
[17:57] Atticus: members from team A run over to the flag in team Bs fort then run back to their base with it.
[17:58] Atticus: if i remember correctly, to "pick up" the flag, you just run over it.
[17:58] Atticus: but the flags sit on little pedestals
[17:59] Atticus: so to drop it, you run to your bases pedestal and voila
[17:59] Atticus: you can set the game to x captures win
[17:59] Atticus: and that's about it.
[18:00] Adam Ant: and you fight to protect it?
[18:00] Atticus: ya
[18:00] Atticus: it's really fun, too.
[18:00] Atticus: it's a pvp event.
[18:00] Adam Ant: there is one flag?
[18:00] Atticus: as many as you want.
[18:00] Atticus: each team gets 1 flag.
[18:01] Atticus: and you set the game to how many captures you want.
[18:01] Atticus: So, say you set the game to 3 captures = win.
[18:01] Atticus: team A would have to capture the flag 3 times for the match to end.
[18:02] Adam Ant: I don't understand how 2 or 3 flags would factor in though
[18:02] Adam Ant: red must steal blues flag 3 times while protecting their red flag?
[18:03] Atticus: well, what i forgot to mention is: in order for a capture to be a success
[18:03] Atticus: your teams flag must be at its base.
[18:03] Adam Ant: ah :P
[18:04] Adam Ant: so tell me if I'm on the right track...
[18:06] Adam Ant: we take an unused section of the preview neighborhood (few items, low lag, open space) 
Place a home-base at each end .. some neat-o structure. 
Turn off murder counts 
put red flag in the red fort, and the blue flag in the blue fort 
set the 'captures to win', and let her rip!
[18:07] Atticus: don't have to turn off murder counts.
[18:07] Atticus: the scripts place everyone in actual teams...
[18:07] Atticus: the event starts with the flip of a switch.
[18:07] Atticus: rival teams are orange to each other.
[18:08] Adam Ant: I don't like using othes scripts
[18:08] Atticus: well, then ya.
[18:08] Atticus: that's how it would work.
[18:09] Atticus: the scripts work pretty nice, though.
[18:09] Adam Ant: maybe...
[18:10] Adam Ant: how do you join?
[18:10] Atticus: theres a signup stone.
[18:10] Atticus: double click it, click an "ok" gump and it swifts you away.
[18:10] Atticus: automatically assigns you to a team, to keep teams even.
[18:12] Atticus: might be able to do it without the scripts
[18:12] Adam Ant: I know we can
[18:12] Atticus: but the problem i see is keeping track of the score.
[18:12] Adam Ant: the scripts are not the issue atm
[18:13] Atticus: what's the issue?
[18:13] Atticus: not enough seers? I'll be a seer!
[18:13] Adam Ant: I want to know how uit works, why it's fun, how long they last, etc, etc
[18:13] Atticus: why it's fun, i couldn't tell ya.
[18:13] Atticus: same reason people like any other events...
[18:15] Atticus: people just like them.
[18:15] Atticus: i mean, look at the event post i just made, it already has almost 40 views.
[18:15] Atticus: just because it's an official in-shard staff member that posted it.
[18:18] Atticus: how do you see the event being run manually?
[18:19] Adam Ant: which, CTF?
[18:19] Atticus: yea
[18:19] Adam Ant: nah, it would be another AES
[18:19] Atticus: AES?
[18:20] Atticus: oh, automated...
[18:20] Adam Ant: Automated Event System (Server Wars, Ransom Quest, Carzy Map Day, and Town invasion)
[18:20] Atticus: ok, give me a minute and i'll find a more detailed explanation
[18:20] Adam Ant: okay, thank
[18:24] Atticus:  
 Capture the Flag, which is easier than DD, is pretty much as you would expect.... 4 Teams... 4 flags. Capturing the enemy flag gives your team 15 points, dieing costs your team 1 point. To capture the flag, go to the enemy base and double click it. It will be moved to your pack and your robe will turn yellow, also the team label over your head will say which flag(s) you are holding. take the flag to your base and double click it, target your flag to capture. Target a teammate to "pass". Beware, if the flag is not captured in 2.5 minutes the flag carrier will be killed and the flag will return to its base. 
 
[18:25] Atticus: with a shard our size, i'd limit the teams to 2, though.
[18:25] Atticus: Bobs and Freds ;)
[18:27] Adam Ant: thanks, I'll think on this :)
[18:29] Atticus: I think seers and factions should come before ctf, though.
[18:29] Atticus: bother are much more widely desired.
[18:29] Atticus: both*
[18:31] Adam Ant: yes, well pix and ak are designing factions, and getting you to seer status shouldn't be a blocking issue.
[18:32] Adam Ant: AES events are important because they generate interest without the need fo staff involvement
[18:32] Atticus: yup, they're definately cool.
[18:33] Atticus: i'm not pushing for seers ONLY because i want to be one, i really do believe they're one of few keys to a good population.
[18:33] Atticus: AES is up there, too, though.
[18:34] Atticus: in fact, i'd bet you 20 bucks i could get the pop up to 150 in a months time as a seer :P
[18:35] Adam Ant: I don't doubt it :)
[18:35] Adam Ant: and you will 
[18:47] Adam Ant: hey, did you ever hear back from our realtor guy?
[18:50] Atticus: nope, not yet.
[18:51] Adam Ant: kk
[18:51] Atticus: I don't think he's as much of a regular as some of the other people though
[18:52] Atticus: been keeping an eye on the PA crew though.
[18:52] Atticus: they're like ants.
[18:54] Adam Ant: :)
[18:55] Adam Ant: I'm putting a new house up in the hood .. Capn Swags .. really very nice!
[18:55] Adam Ant: come see
[18:56] Atticus: this roof is pretty kick ass
[18:57] Adam Ant: Swags?
[18:57] Atticus: i think so. is it the sandstone one?
[18:57] Adam Ant: yep
[18:57] Adam Ant: you want to go do the post? 
 
Use the same format I do.. 
[18:57] Atticus: sure
[18:57] Adam Ant: it's a  
three-story sandstone manor house by Captain Swag
[18:58] Adam Ant: give me 5 min to finish adding the doors though before you post
[19:00] Atticus: sure thing, just let me know when.
[19:03] Adam Ant: okay, go!
[19:05] Atticus: done, and done.
[19:05] Adam Ant: :)
[19:05] Adam Ant: ty
[19:06] Atticus: wow, these people are fast.
[19:06] Atticus: theres already a few looking at it :P
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[15:08] Atticus: disarmedsoldier says he's up to the task.
[17:07] Adam Ant: nice!
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[17:07] Adam Ant: okay, can you get him setup with a thread in the housing forum?
[18:17] Atticus: sure, i'll do it tomorrow though.
[18:17] Atticus: i want to talk with him and let him know exactly what he'll be doing and how it will work (me unlocking the thread when you make a housing update, etc)
[18:17] Atticus: and i'm heading to the city tonight.
[18:17] Atticus: so i dont have time...
[18:17] Adam Ant: okay, np..
[18:17] Adam Ant: night on the town?
[18:18] Atticus: nah
[18:18] Atticus: friend from highschools throwing a party, so i'm heading to that.
[18:18] Adam Ant: nice, well .. have a great time!
[18:18] Atticus: might hit the town once i get a few beers in me though :P
[18:18] Atticus: who knows... :P
[18:19] Atticus: I've been known to  go on solo adventures.
[18:19] Atticus: but, on a side note, theres a thread in BZ that might lead to me being put on the burner.
[18:19] Atticus: so, you might want to keep an eye on that and watch for picketing.
[18:20] Adam Ant: can you get me a quick overview?
[18:20] Atticus: nothing major, there was a thread in the suggestion forum suggesting that we open another applause and adulation forum, i said it wasn't going to happen.
[18:20] Atticus: gave reason why, and locked the thread.
[18:21] Atticus: so now theres a "atticus = yogi?" thread inquiring as to whether or not you guys gave me mod privs again.
[18:21] Adam Ant: um.. you're an admin
[18:22] Atticus: yup, i toldem.
[18:22] Atticus: here...
[18:22] Atticus: Suggestion: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/529664/page/1#Post529664)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/529664/page/1#Post529664)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/529664/page/1#Post529664
[18:22] Adam Ant: kk, 
[18:22] Atticus: complaint: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533950/page/1#Post533950)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533950/page/1#Post533950)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533950/page/1#Post533950
[18:22] Atticus: my comment in suggestion: eh, nah. Not much need/use for it, nobody to moderate it, and we have enough forums as it is.
 
 Sorry guys.
[18:23] Atticus: my comment in bz: Technically, i'm an admin, and have been for a few months. My duties are to manage the forums. I do things like keep information up to date, do the news, and, you guessed it, add/remove forums. 
  
 I wont be adding another A&A forum, so I, not yogi, locked the thread.
[18:23] Adam Ant: kk, .. best to avoid 'putting your foot down' if you can help it tho
[18:24] Adam Ant: seems to really stir them up
[18:24] Atticus: ya, i left the bz thread open.
[18:24] Adam Ant: kk
[18:24] Adam Ant: you go have fun :)
[18:24] Atticus: thanka thanka!
[18:24] Atticus: have a good one!
[18:24] Adam Ant: you too!
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[10:37] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=534205&page=0#Post534205)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=534205&page=0#Post534205
[10:39] Adam Ant: hmm, thanks. 
I have help stuck logs .. Ill need to check them
[10:40] Atticus: righto, np.
[16:02] Atticus: patching all the way up and getting the latest razor still works with AI, right?
[16:03] Adam Ant: hmm, not sure.. let me know ;p
[16:03] Adam Ant: pix is the guy that stays up-to-date .. I'm back on an AOS client
[16:24] Atticus: ok. just had a guy having some stuck problems.
[16:24] Atticus: I'll ask around and find some compatible UO clients/patches and razor pubs.
[16:24] Atticus: and post it in the forums.
[16:25] Adam Ant: kk, thanks
[17:11] Adam Ant: btw .. *usually* when someone cannot connect it's because they have an account and are trying to create another .. often innocent
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[17:26] Atticus: he wasn't stuck at login, he was stuck in game.
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[14:47] Adam Ant: please note how I handled this: 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=1&PHPSESSID=
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[14:51] Atticus: handled what?
[14:52] Atticus: it just shot me to the GD forum.
[14:53] Atticus: speedhacking thread, i take it?
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[10:39] Adam Ant: yes.. [Offline Message (7/17/2007 [15:42])]
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[18:06] Adam Ant: connectuo is not another shard ;p
[18:06] Adam Ant: it's a launch tool like razor
[18:07] Adam Ant: and say 'please' ;p
[18:07] Adam Ant: you sopunded a bit harsh there 
[18:08] Atticus: i deleted the comment i was refering to, i know i'm not supposed to mod the forums, but..
[18:08] Atticus: he copied one of the connectUO adds and posted it in the shout box
[18:08] Atticus: including the shards login details...
[18:09] Atticus: this is what i deleted and was refering to when i told him not to advertise other shards: 
[18:09] Atticus: If you bored from your current server . a new pvp shard has opened , dont wait this is as near as an ip numbr it is 89.19.10.134 2593 we are waiting for you to enter You can find everything u need in this pvp server... (Pvp Rank system Challenge System, All skills 120 and stats 125 Token System + Custom artifacts)
[18:09] Atticus: I think he posted it to point out how ridiculously stupid the shard and it's owner sounds, but it's still not a good idea to leave stuff like that up.
[18:10] Adam Ant: ah, gpood call then
[18:11] Adam Ant: but you could still say please :P
[18:11] Atticus: sounded harsh on purpose, to be honest... it was kind of a stupid thing for him to put up, no matter what his intentions were :P
[18:11] Adam Ant: Marbles is a good sort
[18:11] Atticus: ok, i'll be nicer next time :P
[18:11] Adam Ant: :)
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[10:52] Adam Ant: I'll be installing the new version of the message board, looks great! 
(Link: http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/191325)http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/191325
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[10:53] Adam Ant: PS. .. I'll be turning ON admin notification emails of new registrants .. I need that feature for my distribution list builder tool.
[14:18] Atticus: so i'm gonna get an email every time someone registers?
[14:18] Atticus: and is there anywhere i can look at the features for the new boards?
[14:19] Atticus: nm, got it.
[14:24] Adam Ant: no, you won't get an email unless you turn it on for you acct...
[14:27] Atticus: ok
[14:39] Atticus: ok, so morkai has been back on the forums and has already started his typical abuse...
[14:39] Atticus: and trouble making.
[14:39] Atticus: lately, thanks to yogi, the forums have been really good, but morkai is a cancer to any community. I know you don't like bans and mouse chaces, but i think it would be a good idea to let morkai know it's him and ban his current IP/account.
[14:40] Atticus: and see what happens from there... yea, he can and probably will get around the ban, but i think it will be a good idea to do it just to keep him at bay a little.
[14:41] Atticus: if we let him know that we know he's lurking, he might be a little more cautious about how he acts when he remakes his account.
[14:41] Adam Ant: you are just talking about the boards?
[14:41] Atticus: yea, of course.
[14:41] Adam Ant: what's the posters name?
[14:41] Atticus: oh, wait, he's back on the shard too.
[14:41] Atticus: a chicken.
[14:41] Adam Ant: has he done anything wrong on the boards yet?
[14:41] Atticus: heh
[14:41] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/535129#Post535129)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/535129#Post535129
[14:42] Atticus: when yogi posted that i had already been keeping an eye on him, as i suspected it was coby seagram or morkai.
[14:43] Atticus: then yogi told me a couple things, and morkai said a couple things on the boards, and it's definately him.
[14:44] Adam Ant: how do you know it's morkai?
[14:45] Atticus: well, aside from knowing morkai like the back of my hand and having rightfully banned him from [NEW] and been right about every past account he has made
[14:45] Atticus: there was a couple comments he made such as "i cant say who i am cuz a certain someone will get pissed that i'm here"
[14:46] Atticus: he also explained a situation in game where he recalled into a group of blues as a red
[14:46] Atticus: and was killed
[14:46] Atticus: one of the people he was with called him "morkai"
[14:46] Adam Ant: okay, this is all circumstantial, and not something I want to use as my reason for banning him. 
Can't we simply follow our usual procedure here?
[14:47] Atticus: if you want, but i'm 100% sure.
[14:47] Adam Ant: it he actus up, warn him .. followed by the usual bans, etc
[14:47] Atticus: and he is a cancer, he turns the community to crap.
[14:47] Adam Ant: if he's going through a proxy and we start pounding our chest that "we know!!" .. he ends up winning and we end up looking weak
[14:48] Adam Ant: yes, but we cannot stop him, it is better to manage him than to provoke extreem behavior that we would then have little control over
[14:48] Atticus: he'll come back and at least behave, though.
[14:48] Atticus: and theres already a mod request to ban him.
[14:49] Adam Ant: telling him we know it's him does absolutly nothing to our benifit
[14:49] Adam Ant: it won't make him behave any better than simply warning him (as we would anyone)
[14:50] Adam Ant: if it were me, I would tell you "you're wrong", and then you would have no recourse
[14:50] Atticus: i'm not wrong though.
[14:50] Adam Ant: do you think he will allow you to pin him down when he's smart enough to use a proxy server?
[14:50] Adam Ant: doesn not metter 
[14:50] Atticus: wasn't wrong about him the past 3 times, or the time he joined [new].
[14:50] Adam Ant: I get that ;p
[14:50] Atticus: or wrong about khirgil
[14:50] Atticus: or coby. :P
[14:50] Adam Ant: I get all of that
[14:51] Adam Ant: but...
[14:52] Atticus: i get what you're saying too, you dont want to start a war.
[14:52] Adam Ant: If I know you cannot prove it, and I'm a dick .. I will simply make a project of taunting you... 
I would make you recount all of your inside knowledge of how you know it's me .. and I can promise you, the comunity will not appriciate all the circumstantial evidence
[14:52] Atticus: but if you dont do at least something, he's just going to carry on doing what he's already started doing.
[14:52] Atticus: the community wants the coby's and morkais and khirgils gone a lot more than you think.
[14:53] Adam Ant: has he earned a ban thus far ?
[14:54] Atticus: on this account?
[14:54] Adam Ant: yes
[14:54] Atticus: yup
[14:55] Adam Ant: then do that ..  
without an IP address or email address, we have very little
[14:55] Adam Ant: I'm really worried to say goahead and assume it's Coby .. oops, you were wrong .. now it's morkai :\
[14:56] Adam Ant: in extreem cases we can cross that line
[14:56] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/admin/membersearch.php)http://www.game-master.net/pit/admin/membersearch.php
[14:56] Adam Ant: but I don't want to make it SOP
[14:56] Atticus: partial IP, but given my knowledge of him, and people in general, i'd say that's a pretty big coincidence.
[14:57] Adam Ant: let me ask you something
[14:58] Adam Ant: lets say you're the dick .. you like being a dick ,, and are proud of how you can get around lame message board protectins
[14:58] Adam Ant: you with me?
[14:58] Atticus: yup
[14:58] Adam Ant: now...
[15:01] Adam Ant: say you KNOW Adam and company can't know it's it's really you (because you were smart and got a proxy address and new email), yet thay are actiing like thay do know it's you...
[15:02] Adam Ant: Wouldn't you just keep dicking with them because you KNOW they cannot prove it?
[15:02] Adam Ant: the answer is yes btw
[15:02] Atticus: right, because i'm a dick in that situation...
[15:02] Adam Ant: any morkai/coby type person is going to love it
[15:02] Adam Ant: yes
[15:03] Atticus: the reason it would work for them, though, is because we're generally light on how the boards are moded.
[15:03] Adam Ant: they know we cannot prove it and they will force your to spend all your energy proving it .. and in the end you loose and ban out of pure frustration .. and they create another account and you loose...
[15:03] Adam Ant: it's not worth it
[15:03] Atticus: i don't know.
[15:04] Atticus: i ran [new] pretty smoothly by being very strict and heavy on banning.
[15:04] Atticus: I'm sure more people put their new characters in the guild than i know about for sure, but everyone was at least civil.
[15:04] Adam Ant: that's not a public message board
[15:05] Atticus: public guild, same thing in most aspects.
[15:05] Atticus: it was open to and as easily infiltrated as the forums.
[15:05] Adam Ant: what is your recomendation?
[15:05] Atticus: with more incentive, too.
[15:05] Atticus: to be extremely strict.
[15:06] Adam Ant: no, the protocol
[15:06] Adam Ant: what will your protocol be?
[15:06] Atticus: for the boards in general?
[15:06] Atticus: I'd lose protocol and use better judgement in different cases.
[15:06] Adam Ant: Can yogi also make assumptions about how someone is talking? How about moderator bob? 
[15:06] Atticus: yogi, yes.
[15:06] Atticus: moderator bob, no.
[15:06] Adam Ant: Can mod bob asy that poster X sounds like coby and perma ban him?
[15:07] Atticus: but i keep an eye on mod bob, as i don't trust him.
[15:07] Atticus: yea, but he's also friends with him :P
[15:07] Adam Ant: who will decidee what mods get what power, and how do you make that assessment?
[15:07] Atticus: and morkai.
[15:08] Atticus: mods would keep doing what they're doing. the judgement would fall on the admins still.
[15:08] Atticus: and all yer admins have pretty good judgement, but they restrain themselves for the protocol.
[15:09] Adam Ant: I do not want to soend my time parsing someones behavioes and try to map it onto previous behaviors .. I don't have that much time, or certainty it works
[15:09] Atticus: I'm not trying to be pushy, btw. i know i come off like that sometimes. Just offering my input.
[15:09] Adam Ant: I know
[15:09] Adam Ant: but you are not talking about moraki
[15:10] Adam Ant: you are talking about empowering certain admins with powers to can people thay don't like
[15:10] Atticus: well, now i'm talking about how to mod the forums in general. But yea, i do think it would be best to at least try to nip him in the butt.
[15:10] Atticus: nah, not people they don't like.
[15:10] Atticus: people that are problems.
[15:10] Atticus: ever hear of project-x?
[15:10] Atticus: another shard?
[15:10] Adam Ant: you know the [macroer system?
[15:11] Adam Ant: (sec, stay with me)
[15:11] Atticus: no, not familiar with it.
[15:12] Adam Ant: were we as staff could find an unattended macroer, and if we were sure, we could use the macroer command and turn them gray and put them on the town crier?
[15:12] Atticus: ah, yea.
[15:12] Adam Ant: okay, and the multi-accounting policies?
[15:12] Atticus: yup.
[15:13] Adam Ant: when these systems went online, I had counselors dogging the trouble makers .. or the folks they deemed as trouble makers .. into their proivate houses to see if they were up to something...
[15:13] Adam Ant: staff reporting to me that so-n-so said "nigger" in their own house to a friend
[15:14] Adam Ant: people are people, and they like to witch hunt
[15:14] Adam Ant: the protocol you are suggesting will encourage witchhunts (imho)
[15:14] Atticus: i dont like to witch hunt. I started watching a chicken because i knew he was going to be trouble.
[15:15] Atticus: it's not a witchhunt because a lot of the forum trouble makers kind of cram their crap in the mods faces... it's not people in the houses with their friends.
[15:15] Adam Ant: so what will you tell a chicken ?
[15:15] Adam Ant: I think you are morkai?
[15:16] Adam Ant: therefore I will accellerate the ban process?
[15:16] Atticus: i wouldn't say think.
[15:16] Adam Ant: players would go nuts
[15:16] Adam Ant: but a clever person will know you only *think*
[15:16] Atticus: if players knew it happened, they go "ohhhhhh ya, that was morkai alright. Good ban!"
[15:17] Adam Ant: and they will deny it .. and it will be obvious you are basing your assertion on pure speculation
[15:18] Atticus: well, heres a question.
[15:18] Atticus: You know how easy it is to get around forum bans, anyone can do it.
[15:18] Adam Ant: I'm willing to let you try this .. but I think you are barking up a very treacherous path. 
I did not create the restrains because I'm easy, or like troublemakers .. I did it to insure my staff have clear guidelines 
[15:19] Atticus: Hell, i can do it and im about as tech illiterate as it gets.
[15:19] Atticus: but, knowing it's that easy, why be so lenient?
[15:19] Adam Ant: !
[15:19] Adam Ant: because!
[15:19] Adam Ant: listen
[15:20] Atticus: i mean with moderation in general, i get what you're saying about morkai.
[15:20] Adam Ant: what would you rather have .. "a chicken" that you are managing, or.. 
A very pissed morkai deadset on fucking with atti and adam bacause thet banned him without proof (and you do not have proof)
[15:20] Atticus: i just think the reason doing anything about morkai now will only be risky because of the light moding on the boards.
[15:21] Atticus: if everyone was getting a kick because they abused all the mods fairness for so long, it wouldn't be a big surprise to anyone.
[15:21] Atticus: You could just say "well, you're an ass and you're flaming everyone in every post you make, so you gotta go."
[15:22] Adam Ant: I need to log for a few .. the electricians need to flip some breakers .. we'll pick this up in a few
[15:22] Atticus: righto
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[15:47] Adam Ant: alright, I'll let you manage this .. but if it blows up in our faces, be ready for an "I told you so" :P
[15:48] Atticus: I'll put some more thought into it before i proceed
[15:48] Adam Ant: okay .. think the most important thing is to have you be the hub of the decisions .. don't delegate to others
[15:52] Atticus: the plus side that i see is that knowing morkai, after i ban him he'll come back and introduce himself.
[15:52] Atticus: i've been watching him for a while waiting for him to crack and it be more obvious that it was him... he's pretty predictable.
[15:53] Atticus: what i see happening is: after he gets banned he'll come back and say "OMGWTF ATTICUS IS MOD?!" cry a little, get sick of the routine, and finally settle down.
[15:53] Atticus: i don't think he wants to be banned, otherwise he would be trying to hard to keep who he is a secret.
[15:54] Atticus: he obviously WANTS to be here.
[15:54] Adam Ant: are you going to warn him first?
[15:54] Atticus: hmmm
[15:54] Atticus: that's up to you.
[15:54] Atticus: he might go "oh shit, they're onto me" and just make another account right away, though.
[15:55] Atticus: and proceed as he usually does.
[15:55] Adam Ant: heh, I don't want to do any of this :P
[15:55] Atticus: ok.
[15:55] Atticus: i'll think about it all then ;)
[15:55] Adam Ant: it was a question to your plan of how you are going to handle it
[15:56] Adam Ant: kk
[15:57] Atticus: I'll see what yogi has to say, too, since it will undoubtedly affect him.
[16:08] Atticus: Don't give me the ok if it's not what you WANT, btw. To me morkai is just there... i don't really feel anything twords the kid. I'm only suggesting it because i think he's bad for... well, everything he touches, probably.
[16:10] Adam Ant: mostly my words are cautionary
[16:10] Atticus: ok.
[16:10] Adam Ant: use your best judgement 
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jul 19 15:08:55 2007
[15:09] Atticus: Did you want a gallery added to the forums?
[15:09] Atticus: if so, what do you want it used for?
[15:10] Adam Ant: I don't *want* one, but instead, it's available should we decide we want one
[15:11] Atticus: that's what i meant. Did you want it turned on?
[15:11] Atticus: i saw you make mention of it in an announcement, so i thought i'd ask.
[15:12] Adam Ant: I don't want it turned on unless we have a need .. no one has come to me and said thay want a gallery for  reson yet
[15:12] Atticus: hmm, maybe i'm misunderstanding how it works. I'll look into it more :P
[15:13] Adam Ant: yeah, I know nothing abpout it only that it's available..... 
Okay, here's a thought .. maybe we could use it for the 'housing gallery' :)
[15:15] Atticus: i think what it is is you set the "gallery forum" settings to allow more custom settings than a regular forum.
[15:16] Atticus: so, you could set the forum so that each POST in a forum could have x more pics than a post in a regular forum...
[15:17] Adam Ant: they have a geallery at ubbcentral if you want to have a look
[15:18] Atticus: ahhh, very nice.
[15:19] Atticus: which reminds me, disarmed soldier pretty much backed out today.
[15:20] Atticus: said RL became busy.
[15:21] Adam Ant: that's ok
[16:45] Atticus: just went through with the morkai thing, and seems like all will be well for a while.
[16:46] Adam Ant: for a while?
[16:46] Atticus: well, it's morkai. There will be a honeymoon period and he'll go back to his old ways.
[16:46] Atticus: but, i think he's manageable for the time being.
[16:47] Atticus: he's banned for 72 hours right now, and i made it clear that i know who he is without saying exactly who.
[16:49] Adam Ant: alright
[16:50] Atticus: I also mentioned that i was going to leave it between him and I for now, which leaves room to get him off the shard if it comes down to it later.
[16:50] Atticus: for what ever reason.
[16:52] Adam Ant: I don't understand what that means ...
[16:53] Adam Ant: you are the spokes person for GMN .. there are no personal vendettas which would ever result in a ban
[16:53] Atticus: you told the community a while ago that you would ban morkai from the shard/forums on sight. I made sure i left that window open.
[16:53] Adam Ant: when you spoeak to him, it needs wrt GMN policy
[16:53] Atticus: wrt?
[16:54] Adam Ant: with regard to
[16:54] Adam Ant: where did I tell the community that?
[16:54] Atticus: long time ago, after castle breakins.
[16:54] Atticus: you dont remember doing that?
[16:58] Adam Ant: I do not deny saying something .. but when people quote me, I like to know exactly what I said. 

[16:58] Atticus: it was either you or rhiannon. I believe the exact quote was "morkai and coby seagram will be banned from the shard/forums on sight"
[16:58] Adam Ant: anyway.. that's not the point..
[16:59] Adam Ant: what caught my attention is where you said: 
 
"I also mentioned that i was going to leave it between him and I for now, which leaves room to get him off the shard if it comes down to it later." 

[16:59] Adam Ant: I guess you mean .. oh I see
[16:59] Adam Ant: you mean not pulling me in
[16:59] Atticus: i mean i made it so nobody got in trouble
[16:59] Atticus: right
[17:00] Adam Ant: :)
[17:00] Atticus: if word got out that he was around, blame would fall on me.
[17:00] Adam Ant: it almost sounded like the vendetta was between you and he ;p
[17:00] Atticus: no.
[17:00] Adam Ant: kk, I got you
[17:00] Atticus: i don't have vendettas, i'm not an evil villain.
[17:01] Atticus: just a smart cookie :P
[17:01] Atticus: but, if he does act up i maintain the stance that it's a good idea to get rid of him quickly.
[17:02] Atticus: he broke into castles, people don't want him around.
[17:02] Adam Ant: *nods*
[18:16] Adam Ant: :) 
(Link: http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=192022#Post192022)http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=192022#Post192022
[19:22] Atticus: ?
 
 
[19:24] Adam Ant: I found a bug in their message board code .. nothing too interesting
[19:27] Adam Ant: Cassandra tells me there are defiance folks looking at AI
[19:27] Adam Ant: and that got me thinking....
[19:27] Adam Ant: what if during Server Wars we: 
1. turn on Test Center Set Skill 
2. have a reagent stone at Wrong (free reagents) 
3. A weapons smith with exceptional weapons at Wrong 

[19:27] Adam Ant: basically .. making it the perfect opportunity for folks to come from other shards to check us out
[19:28] Atticus: i like it.
[19:28] Atticus: i don't think it would work all that well for growth, but it would be fun.
[19:29] Atticus: and give everyone more opportunity/reason to take part.
[19:29] Adam Ant: well the point was growth ;p
[19:29] Atticus: works in theory... people can test it.
[19:29] Adam Ant: why don't you think it would work?
[19:29] Atticus: but it's once a month for an hour, people arn't going to work it into their schedules to try the shard out.
[19:29] Adam Ant: ah
[19:30] Atticus: now, if we had a full time test shard with no lag etc. that people could play on and give it a shot,that would work.
[19:30] Atticus: but, that costs $$$
[19:31] Adam Ant: maybe if we advertised it is like an 'open house' day ;p
[19:31] Atticus: for mass emails and such?
[19:31] Adam Ant: yep
[19:32] Adam Ant: like just a couple days advanced notice
[19:32] Atticus: hmmm, those go out to people that are already familiar with the shard and how it works
[19:32] Adam Ant: 'come try out AI'
[19:32] Atticus: people that already registered.
[19:32] Atticus: now, if you waited for factions to go in, and advertised it as a "come try factions this sunday, yadda yadda" that could greatly increase the turnout we get for those.
[19:32] Atticus: or what ever the next big feature to be implimented is.
[19:33] Adam Ant: hah .. let me get cassandra's exact words....
[19:33] Atticus: "lets do factions" ... one week later : "no factions, please!"
[20:13] Atticus: you any good with razor problems?
[20:15] Adam Ant: try me
[20:16] Atticus: i'm trying to open razor, and i'm getting an update window...
[20:16] Atticus: nothing happens after that, and when i "cancel" the update, it just closes. So basically, i can't open razor.
[20:17] Adam Ant: hmm
[20:18] Adam Ant: do you have the original install for that version of razor?
[20:18] Atticus: probably, i didn't delete it.
[20:19] Atticus: hrmm, maybe not.
[20:19] Adam Ant: that's one thing you could try .. however .. I might just try using my firewall to block razor when it starts up so the update check fails .. then enable it after razor has styarted
[20:19] Adam Ant: I need to run... dinner time!
[20:20] Atticus: ok, thx.
[20:20] Atticus: later
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[14:50] Atticus: just figured out how to get rid of the black background for the new posts everyone complaining about, you mind if i change it?
[14:50] Adam Ant: nope, go for it
[14:50] Adam Ant: what is it anyway?
[14:51] Atticus: it's in styles.
[14:51] Atticus: had to edit the forum style a tiny bit.
[14:51] Adam Ant: no, what's it purpose?
[14:51] Atticus: it was some goofy ass way of showing a topic as new.
[14:51] Adam Ant: ah
[14:52] Atticus: gonna see if i can make stickies show like that, though.
[14:52] Atticus: that'd prolly look nice.
[15:00] Adam Ant: you done editing the settings? I need to restart webserver for updates
[15:00] Atticus: sure, go ahead.
[15:00] Adam Ant: kk
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[18:13] Atticus: uh, are you aware that you refer to Gilah as Lily in a post you just made?
[18:13] Atticus: lily is her personal character... Gilah is her staff char.
[18:14] Adam Ant: eep
[18:14] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/536186/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/536186/gonew/1#UNREAD
[18:14] Adam Ant: edited
[18:15] Adam Ant: thanks ;p
[18:15] Adam Ant: (damn!)
[18:15] Atticus: np ;)
[18:16] Adam Ant: keep half an eye on that situation .. I think Toast went a bit wonky
[18:16] Adam Ant: oh, and what do you think of Swag as a housing judge?
[18:16] Adam Ant: his comments are really good .. 
[18:17] Atticus: in place of disarmed soldier?
[18:17] Adam Ant: no no ..
[18:17] Adam Ant: I mean someone to 'approve' evaluate, on TC
[18:17] Atticus: ah, yup.
[18:17] Atticus: that'd be a good call.
[18:17] Atticus: i think he shares your taste.
[18:18] Adam Ant: you want to ask him if he's interested?
[18:18] Adam Ant: I;ll need to run it by Jade, but he may be a good backup
[18:18] Atticus: sure.
[18:18] Atticus: let me know when you run it by jade and i'll ask him.
[18:19] Adam Ant: kk
[18:26] Atticus: have you seen the suggestion to add chicken coops? they'd work like stables, but only hold chickens.
[18:27] Adam Ant: no, I'll check it out when I'm back from vacation .. I'm only handling emergencies atm ;p
[18:27] Atticus: oh ya, i forgot your on vacation, sorry!
[18:27] Atticus: rough night last night...
[18:27] Adam Ant: np
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jul 22 11:24:51 2007
[11:24] Adam Ant: you able to get to the message boards?
[11:25] Atticus: yup
[11:25] Adam Ant: hmm, .. ok
[11:25] Adam Ant: douple check with a couple page refreshes?
[11:26] Atticus: all good.
[11:26] Adam Ant: ok
[11:26] Adam Ant: must be my side
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[15:46] Adam Ant: fyi: 
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[15:48] Atticus: ok, also, you wanted me to remind you when it was 5 days before the mortal event... it's on sunday.
[15:48] Atticus: plus, i had a question i posted in the staff forum.
[15:49] Adam Ant: gah .. I somehow closed your reply before reading it..
[15:49] Adam Ant: what did you say?
[15:49] Atticus: ok, also, you wanted me to remind you when it was 5 days before the mortal event... it's on sunday.
[15:49] Atticus: plus, i had a question i posted in the staff forum.
[15:51] Adam Ant: I'm heading out the door atm, but I'll check it when I get back..
[15:51] Adam Ant: see you!
[15:51] Atticus: later ;)
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[15:26] Atticus: heyo, you around?
[15:26] Adam Ant: yep, what;s up?
[15:27] Atticus: 2 quick things.
[15:27] Atticus: did you ever get the mortal gates implimented? and did you touch base with jade about swag being a custom housing judge?
[15:28] Adam Ant: Jade was on today judging, and pointed out that there are a bunch that she's approved, but that I've been lax on converting .. so no, looks like the bottle beck is me ;p
[15:29] Adam Ant: On the mortal gates .. I can do that today .. what exactally do you need? Empty backpack + mortal?
[15:29] Atticus: no, just mortal.
[15:29] Atticus: players will have to bring their own supplies.
[15:30] Atticus: any any supplies will be allowed this time.
[15:30] Adam Ant: well, okay .. but please consider it's easy fore a bob toi make a mortal loaded up with explosion pots and gate in an grief the event
[15:30] Atticus: keeping this one really basic, and seeing how it goes. The biggest thing i see needing to be changed will be the location for future ones.
[15:30] Atticus: being in an area bigger than the castle will make the event go a lot smoother.
[15:31] Adam Ant: so.. you will allow the griefing?
[15:31] Atticus: well, how could you stop something like that?
[15:31] Adam Ant: I can see players being super if they lose their mortal to a two hour bob
[15:32] Atticus: if we make it empty backpacks they wouldn't be able to fight.
[15:32] Adam Ant: you have thgem come in empty and you supply the items
[15:32] Atticus: well, that would be fine with me. but keep in mind, i'm not a seer, so you would have to do all that.
[15:32] Atticus: 
[15:35] Adam Ant: I'm less worried about getting some chests with weapons in it than I am about the easy grief potential
[15:35] Atticus: ok.
[15:35] Adam Ant: was this covered in your original proposal/plan?
[15:35] Atticus: nope.
[15:36] Atticus: i looked at the potential for pot lopping as a tactic.
[15:36] Adam Ant: you need to manage the death of mortals a bit .. 
[15:36] Adam Ant: players loosing mortrals in a staff sponsored event would be really bad
[15:36] Atticus: but if you want to limit the suicide bomber grief style, i'd say just load some locked down boxes with exceptional weapons/armor
[15:36] Atticus: and no explo pots/poison.
[15:37] Atticus: and yea, also make the gates require an empty backpack.
[15:37] Adam Ant: no, my statement is far broader than pot lobbing, and I can't enumerate each and every tactic used to grief
[15:37] Adam Ant: my point was...
[15:37] Adam Ant: 1. you have mortals 
2. you have mortals gatting into a place with full backpacks
[15:38] Adam Ant: are you ready for the extreem disappointmnent that will be experssed to staff when some 5 minute bom kills theyir tweek mortal?
[15:38] Atticus: biggest thing i'm worried about is a vent gank.
[15:38] Adam Ant: it could be a deadly poisoned sword .. it doesn't matter what the machanic is.. it that it can be done period.
[15:39] Atticus: ok.
[15:39] Atticus: well, the reason i wanted to make it so people could come with items is so they could use tele/invis/bless items
[15:39] Atticus: since they help a lot in field pvp, which is pretty much what this is.
[15:40] Atticus: and players who can't afford them could loot players with them.
[15:40] Atticus: but, i see what you're saying.
[15:40] Atticus: So, i'd say just load some boxes with basic gear and make the gates require empty backpacks.
[15:41] Atticus: GM armor of different types, different GM weapons, regs.
[15:45] Adam Ant: one thing that would simplify it is that each registrant must give you a single backpack filled with whatever they need for the fight .. then you give them back come event time
[15:46] Atticus: ok... i could do that.
[15:46] Atticus: i'll log on an hour or so before the event, tell people they need to page me to give me their supplies for the event
[15:47] Adam Ant: think about it and come up with and event plan .. how it wil all work and what protections (if any) are in place. 
IF there are no protections, or if the protections are not foolproof, I would like there to be a clear warning to the players outlining the possibllities of pre-event death of their mortal character
[15:47] Atticus: and require that they have all their stuff in a single pouch with a book in the pouch with the name of the owner of the supplies.
[15:47] Atticus: i'm already on the horn with pezi to check the region controller settings.
[15:47] Adam Ant: kk
[15:48] Atticus: to see if we can turn off pvp combat in a region.
[15:48] Adam Ant: do you have access to [get serial 
?
[15:48] Atticus: ya
[15:48] Adam Ant: then you should add a book to each pouch givenb you with the serial of the player that gave it to you .. names (ala bob) are not sufficient
[15:50] Adam Ant: these are all the 'failsafe' precautions ;p
[15:50] Adam Ant: (and why events are somewhat complex)
[15:50] Adam Ant: ohh!
[15:51] Adam Ant: heh, can you check the spawners where the bob and fred clothes were an make sure they were deleted?
[15:51] Atticus: well, i had planned on the event being chaotic.
[15:51] Atticus: they werent last i checked.
[15:51] Adam Ant: I don't remember going back after this last event and deleteing them
[15:51] Atticus: you didnt :P
[15:51] Adam Ant: well, this is why I need a seer!
[15:51] Adam Ant: :P
[15:51] Adam Ant: can you please give me the [where coords
[15:52] Adam Ant: you can't delete right?
[15:52] Atticus: 1374 3914 -2
[15:52] Atticus: nope, i can't even see spawners.
[15:52] Adam Ant: kk
[15:52] Adam Ant: just the one location?
[15:53] Atticus: 1495 3687 -3
[15:53] Atticus: and for some reason, the bob robes are spawning grey now.
[15:54] Adam Ant: hmm
[15:54] Adam Ant: yeah, from now on .. you'll own the cleanup oif these things .. make sure they get cleaned up
[15:55] Atticus: i can't clean them up.
[15:56] Adam Ant: yes, but you can nag me (or another GM) until you get your powers :p
[15:56] Adam Ant: I view this as you owning the events .. and we're hired hands
[15:56] Adam Ant: you still own the event 
[15:57] Atticus: ah, ok.
[15:57] Atticus: shit, i can nag with the best of them.
[15:57] Adam Ant: hehe
[15:58] Adam Ant: okay cleaned up, and loss of color understood.
[15:59] Adam Ant: I'll get started on the moongate changes while you fleshout the details of the event (complete with setting expectations of death with the players)
[16:00] Atticus: well, pezi says theres no option to turn off combat on the region controllers.
[16:00] Atticus: so i'm going to have to go with a note of caution
[16:01] Adam Ant: maybe schedule a couple bouncers? trusted folks that can ban from the castle? friends of the house, or maybe staff
[16:07] Atticus: sorry, someone paged
[16:07] Atticus: gotta go afk for a sec though, brb.
[16:08] Adam Ant: kk
[16:13] Atticus: really wish region controllers had a pvp option :P
[16:14] Atticus: that's the only thing i really worried about..
[16:21] MassMessage: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537190#Post537190)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=sh(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537190#Post537190)owflat&Number=537190#Post537190
[16:23] Atticus: ok, and [get serial... i take it that gives me a completely unique serial number for an item?
[16:23] Adam Ant: cool, you can also deputize friends by making them friends/coowners of the castle
[16:23] Adam Ant: yes
[16:23] Adam Ant: (or player)
[16:23] Atticus: ok...
[16:24] Adam Ant: cannot be spoofed
[16:24] Atticus: ok, sounds good.
[16:24] Atticus: i'll need to update the announcement, also.
[16:24] Adam Ant: 88 online on the boards btw
[16:25] Atticus: i originally planned on people making bobs and such to bomb the event.
[16:25] Atticus: and people  ganging up on them ;)
[16:25] Adam Ant: probably not a good mix with a mortal event
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Jul 26 16:39:22 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jul 26 16:49:51 2007
[17:17] Atticus: Note: 
  
 The gates to take you to the event castle will require that your backpack be EMPTY. This means that before the event you will need to PAGE ME to hand me what ever supplies you want to bring into the event castle. All of your supplies should be organised into a single pouch/backpack. 
  
 Players whos intentions seem to be to grief the event will be denied their transaction. For example, if your char has 100 skill points or 700 skill points in useless skills and you try to hand me a bag full of explosion potions and newbied DP weapons, i will not accept your items and you will have to go to the event naked, or not go at all ;) 
  
 Also note that anyone who attacks another player before the official start of the event will be banned from the event castle for the entire duration of the fight.
[17:17] Atticus: acceptable for a post?
[17:28] Adam Ant: I would leave out the second paragraph as you will invoke the wrath of bob
[17:28] Adam Ant: you do not want to show your hand
[17:29] Adam Ant: (because it's a challange to them then)
[17:29] Adam Ant: protect yourself and the event without spilling the beans ;p
[17:29] Atticus: ok.
[17:30] Atticus: I might add a bit about not allowing cross healing later on, depending on how many people volunteer to help with banning
[17:30] Atticus: to prevent ganking.
[17:30] Adam Ant: right? is you say NO GRIEFING .. that's a total invitation to: 
1. super critizm of the shard (denying bobliness) 
2. a challange to 'win' by out smarting you
[17:31] Adam Ant: oh, bu the way .. heh
[17:31] Adam Ant: a single genie could destroy the entire event
[17:31] Atticus: oh, i added something about the gates requiring a player to be mortal.
[17:31] Atticus: good call...
[17:31] Atticus: i'll add that.
[17:33] Adam Ant: I would just make it sound like ... 
 
"Also, mass destruction items like earthquake and genies will not be allowed.."
[17:33] Atticus: you know what'd be cool? Event gates that worked like tourney stones...
[17:35] Atticus: how about this... could you make me a seer for a little bit just so i can look at the region controller and see what all i can do to perfect the event?
[17:35] Atticus: i wont change anything, jot down everything for you to change later
[17:35] Atticus: just jot*
[17:35] Adam Ant: yes .. but I can tell you now you can turn off spells and skills .. so you could turn off EQ for instance
[17:36] Adam Ant: but you can't (currently) turn off genies .. 
[17:36] Atticus: that would be way sweet... and the region for the event castle goes pretty wide around the castle, doesn't it?
[17:36] Adam Ant: I don't remember
[17:37] Adam Ant: I'll make you a seer on TC so you can play with it .. I don't like experimentation on production (for obvious reasons)
[17:37] Adam Ant: let me know when you're on TC
[17:38] Atticus: ooo, i can play with the cock fight arena then, too :P
[17:38] Adam Ant: yes, and start learning all the commands and whatnot
[17:38] Atticus: sweet
[17:39] Atticus: i'm on. Names Felix
[17:40] Adam Ant: don't mess around on GA as they are original copies of 'real' houses .. 
[17:41] Atticus: i'll prolly be around the event castle.
[17:41] Atticus: or jail
[17:41] Atticus: oh, you mean for the cock fighting arena? How about somewhere in the abyss?
[17:42] Atticus: since that's where i plan for it to be placed anyways (so i looks like a basement)
[17:42] Adam Ant: TC is used for house construction, don't mess with any of the houses on Green Acres
[17:42] Atticus: ok
[17:43] Atticus: all set?
[18:14] Adam Ant: got a few minutes?
[18:14] Atticus: yip.
[18:15] Adam Ant: come to the preview neighborhood and have a look at the two newest houses... 
Get the style (name) designer's name, and proce and publish them along with pics in the General Discussion forum as a Housing Update
[18:16] Adam Ant: (not to informal, more dry and professional type post)
[18:17] Atticus: ok
[18:17] Adam Ant: pics can be found in the "Aproved houses thread" in the Housing forum
[18:17] Atticus: ah, sweet.
[18:17] Atticus: i hate hosting pics :P
[18:18] Adam Ant: they are already hosted!
[18:18] Adam Ant: all you need to do is link them .. 
[18:19] Adam Ant: well, [image]blah-pic.gmn.net[/image]
[18:19] Adam Ant: so they dispolay
[18:19] Atticus: right
[18:19] Atticus: that's why i said "sweet" ;)
[18:19] Adam Ant: ah ;p
[18:29] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537220#Post537220)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537220#Post537220
[18:30] Adam Ant: nice thank you
[18:31] Atticus: any time.
[18:41] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533162#Post533162)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/533162#Post533162
[18:41] Atticus: second post
[18:44] Adam Ant: that's good
[19:08] Adam Ant: I just checked and moongates already support  
Ghosts Only 
Empty Backpack 
Mortals Only 
 
[add moongate 
then do 
[props 

[19:08] Adam Ant: test it out on TC .. test it throughly
[19:08] Adam Ant: also when you are a seer, you will want to set dispellable to false
[19:09] Adam Ant: let me know SOON if the mortal thing is working or not
[19:10] Adam Ant: also, test out the empty backpack to make sure you can't enter holding something on the cursor, or have a weapon equipped
[19:15] Adam Ant: it will also be good practice for you to learn all about commands and items and such
[19:16] Adam Ant: like you need to set the destination AND map
[19:16] Atticus: right... somethings not working with it.
[19:16] Atticus: i know most of the basics, or at least they'll come back to me.
[19:16] Atticus: but i'll have to work on setting region boundries and such.
[19:16] Adam Ant: what's not working?
[19:16] Atticus: the gate itself...
[19:17] Adam Ant: Adam Ant (5:15 PM) :  
it will also be good practice for you to learn all about commands and items and such 
Adam Ant (5:15 PM) :  
like you need to set the destination AND map 

[19:17] Atticus: i set the location but it's not sending my test char to it. Says it doesn't go anywhere, i think it has something to do with the region settings.
[19:17] Atticus: right, i set the target location and the map to felucca
[19:17] Adam Ant: well, then you're doing something wrong :P
[19:18] Adam Ant: you on TC?
[19:18] Atticus: ya.
[19:18] Adam Ant: I'll brt
[19:24] Adam Ant: oh, ...
[19:24] Atticus: it's just not working for player chars...
[19:24] Adam Ant: duh .. do you have nogate into turned on?
[19:24] Adam Ant: (for ther region)
[19:24] Atticus: on the region? no.
[19:25] Atticus: that's what i was checking before
[19:25] Atticus: i tried no recall, too.
[19:25] Adam Ant: sec
[19:25] Atticus: wait, yes i did!
[19:29] Adam Ant: so... do we want to allow gate?
[19:29] Atticus: only the event gate.
[19:29] Adam Ant: probably not 
[19:29] Adam Ant: right
[19:29] Adam Ant: I'll need to look an see if I can tell the difference between the two
[19:29] Adam Ant: I'll get back to you
[19:29] Atticus: ok
[19:46] Adam Ant: okay, I figured it out .. I'll add another property so that you can override the rules guardfing the destination
[19:46] Atticus: sweet
[19:47] Adam Ant: so .. you will leave no gate turned on, but this particular gate will have an override
[19:47] Atticus: ok.
[19:47] Atticus: what's your policy on fiddling with the region boundries?
[19:47] Adam Ant: don't do anything dumb
[19:47] Adam Ant: :P
[19:47] Atticus: shit, i'm screwed
[19:48] Atticus: would you mind making the policy less restrictive for the time being?
[19:48] Adam Ant: just make sure you test and retest the bounrays
[19:48] Adam Ant: are you able to use [regionbounds?
[19:49] Adam Ant: use it and targte yourself
[19:49] Adam Ant: then run around along (the inside wall) of the region to make sure you have it right
[19:49] Adam Ant: [regionbounds 
target yourself 

[19:49] Adam Ant: and see the region bounds
[19:51] Atticus: so, this area is actually several different "bounds" all with the same ruleset?
[19:51] Adam Ant: yes... 
[19:52] Adam Ant: called a region 
a region is made up of one or more rects
[19:52] Adam Ant: like at the castle
[19:53] Adam Ant: I believe I had the castle region, then a buffer area in front to include folks casting on the castle in the dangerous region
[19:53] Adam Ant: before you change any of the regions, I'd like you to explain to me your reasoning
[19:53] Atticus: that's what i thought.
[19:53] Atticus: what i want to do is first just disable the region in the castle
[19:54] Atticus: erm, no, not if it covers the whole castle...
[19:54] Adam Ant: what is it you are *trying* to do?
[19:54] Atticus: but i want to extend the outside region so that i can disable meteor swarm/EQ so people can't grief from the outside
[19:54] Atticus: extend it to the sides and back.
[19:55] Adam Ant: I would say...
[19:55] Adam Ant: Add new regions so you can delete them post event without effecting the existing regions
[19:55] Adam Ant: know what I mean?
[19:55] Adam Ant: add a buffer along each side and along the back
[19:56] Atticus: you can't delete specific recs from the RC?
[19:56] Adam Ant: then those can be deleted without affecting the core regions
[19:56] Adam Ant: yse
[19:56] Adam Ant: you can delete
[19:57] Adam Ant: but rather than modify the existing regions to be BIGGER, then trying to set thhem back to the way they were .. 
[19:57] Adam Ant: it would be easier to add 3 new regions
[19:57] Atticus: right, i think i worded that wrong.
[19:57] Adam Ant: add a buffer along each side and along the back 

[19:57] Atticus: you mean add 3 new region areas to the exsisting "outside" RC?
[19:57] Atticus: and not add 3 more RCs?
[19:57] Adam Ant: correct
[19:58] Atticus: ok, we're on the same page then.
[19:58] Adam Ant: I think that certain mods enable the guards .. heh, double check that
[19:58] Adam Ant: there is a good write up in one of the staff forums on how the controllers work
[19:58] Atticus: ahh, good.
[19:58] Atticus: i'll look for that.
[19:59] Adam Ant: you should understand it before changing anything (like lighting)
[19:59] Adam Ant: I think it's in the developers library
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[22:59] Adam Ant: Okay I'm restarting TC shortly with DestinationOverride property which overrides the rules that govern the destination rules for a moongate
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[23:28] Adam Ant: Alright, the moongates with DestinationOverride are libe on TC .. go test your moongate!
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[15:06] Adam Ant: When you get a minute can you update the staff roster: 
lily (1:04 PM) :  
Echo is yogi..dagashi..gumshoe 
lily (1:04 PM) :  
and Mukeli is burly 

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[15:06] Adam Ant: these are counselors
[15:34] Adam Ant: nm .. rhi is going to do it. she wanted to do something ;p
[16:11] Atticus: ... she made burly bob a counselor?
[16:11] Adam Ant: yep
[16:11] Atticus: bad move... that guys slime.
[16:11] Adam Ant: that ok?
[16:11] Atticus: can't trust him as far as you can throw him.
[16:12] Atticus: he seems cool and such, be he's extremely 2 faced and slimey.
[16:12] Adam Ant: okay .. then, we'll want to watch him
[16:12] Atticus: yogi? awesome call... he'll make a great counselor.
[16:12] Adam Ant: here is what I'll do...
[16:13] Adam Ant: I'll make you a seer so that you can watch him... follow him, record any off behaviors
[16:14] Adam Ant: but I'd like you to restrict your seer activities to TC (experimenting and such)
[16:14] Atticus: ok.
[16:14] Atticus: i'd restrict experimenting to TC either way.
[16:14] Adam Ant: You will be able to follow him and track him unnoticed
[16:15] Atticus: ok
[16:15] Adam Ant: remember, you can [use report on him if you catch him communicating with Players in an inappropriate way
[16:15] Adam Ant: *use [report
[16:16] Adam Ant: that way you have a log and don't need to rely on memory
[16:16] Atticus: ok
[16:16] Adam Ant: what will your seer's name be?
[16:16] Atticus: Can just up felix to a seer if you want.
[16:16] Adam Ant: kk, log him in
[16:17] Atticus: just did.
[16:17] Adam Ant: go to GA and stay put untill I give you the go ahead
[16:17] Atticus: it'll be OK if i answer pages if he's a seer, right?
[16:17] Adam Ant: but I would like you to reread the 2 agreements in the staff forum to refresh your memory on what's allowed and what's not
[16:18] Atticus: ok
[16:18] Atticus: before or after?
[16:20] Adam Ant: okay, you're all set
[16:20] Adam Ant: please go reread now
[16:21] Adam Ant: not only for you, but so you know when someone is doing something against the rules
[16:21] Atticus: right
[16:21] Adam Ant: but now as seer, you will have greater ease in breaking the rules :P
[16:21] Atticus: 
[16:25] Adam Ant: to set a two part name, use... 
 
[set name "Seer Foop"
[16:25] Adam Ant: you need the doiuble quotes
[16:25] Atticus: ah, ok
[16:25] Atticus: i did it through props, then changed it back.
[16:25] Adam Ant: [props works too
[16:27] Atticus: ok, freshened up on the rules.
[16:28] Adam Ant: right, ok.
[16:40] Atticus: plus side is: if burly turns out to be OK you have a good full staff right now.
[16:44] Adam Ant: that's my hope
[17:05] Atticus: I take it you still want to give me more extensive seer training before i start hosting my own events?
[17:06] Adam Ant: yes .. like this mortal thing .. as soon as I started asking about it, there appeared to be some holes
[17:07] Adam Ant: I'll still want complete writeups of each event so I can tell if you've thought of everything
[17:07] Atticus: well, i planned for it to be pretty lenient.
[17:07] Atticus: "if you could do it as a mortal on the field you can do it here" sort of thing.
[17:08] Atticus: but, i see what you're saying about it. So tomorrow when i get up i'm gonna hit it pretty hard and get it closer to what you want.
[17:08] Adam Ant: have you tried the gate yet?
[17:09] Atticus: did you get it all coded?
[17:09] Adam Ant: yep... I sent you an ICQ
[17:09] Atticus: oh, sorry. i didn't get it.
[17:09] Adam Ant: maybe you didn't get it
[17:09] Atticus: i'll check it out now.
[17:09] Adam Ant: yep, all coded an checked in
[17:09] Adam Ant: infact your gate that is at the castle is ready to go
[17:10] Adam Ant: you should test it as is to make sure it still does not work (sanity check) 
then turn on DestinationOverride and verify it now allows passage
[17:10] Atticus: if this has potential and players like it, will adding features to prevent players from attacking/benefiting each other be a possibility?
[17:11] Adam Ant: you mean a trammy-region? :P
[17:11] Atticus: yup
[17:11] Adam Ant: a possibility, yes
[17:11] Atticus: people will bitch, but i can deal with that pretty well.
[17:11] Atticus: they've all been asking for seers and events for a long time, and if they want an event to happen it needs to be possible.
[17:12] Atticus: and if it's very possible for players to disrupt an event, they will.
[17:13] Atticus: gate works
[17:14] Adam Ant: and if you turn off DestinationOverride it fails?
[17:14] Atticus: yup
[17:14] Adam Ant: good
[17:14] Atticus: mortal check works
[17:15] Atticus: override works
[17:15] Atticus: all is good.
[17:15] Atticus: just need to get some ban hands.
[17:16] Adam Ant: well Rhiannon is on poking around .. maybe you should ask her?
[18:27] Atticus: any objection to me deleting stuff from the event castle?
[18:27] Atticus: the roof dueling area revisions, i think they were added for silks cock fights
[18:27] Adam Ant: teleporters?
[18:28] Atticus: i want to get rid of the seating stuff, so the whole roof is accessible
[18:28] Atticus: and all the LoS blockers
[18:29] Adam Ant: why the LOS bolckers?
[18:29] Adam Ant: they cannot be seen by players, and they will be useful in future events
[18:29] Atticus: ok... how about just deleting the stairs to the roof, then?
[18:30] Adam Ant: and I think those are LOF blockers .. meaning you cannot shoot throuigh them
[18:30] Atticus: erm, ya.
[18:31] Adam Ant: sure
[19:24] Atticus: since this last mortal standing thing is something i hope to host many of, like all the promo events i listed in that proposal, and the same reward will be used each time, what do you think of announcing what the prize will be?
[19:24] Atticus: in the future people will know what the prize is anyways, and if they know what they're getting more people will likely join up.
[19:24] Atticus: (for this first one)
[19:25] Adam Ant: what's the prize again?
[19:25] Atticus: article of blood red clothing.
[19:25] Atticus: i'll probably rename it so something like  "a  soaked in the blood of mortals"
[19:26] Atticus: blessed and uncutable...
[19:27] Adam Ant: yeah, that's fine .. but make a bandana and wear it .. if you get the weird halo, don't use that color. 
PS. we have a standard hue for blood drenched .. you shoul use that
[19:27] Atticus: 1157, right?
[19:28] Atticus: the blood drenched color is a dye tub color.
[19:29] Atticus: 1157 is the true "blood red"
[19:30] Atticus: i know this is probably getting to be a headache, but i'll have everything in full detail for any future event.
[19:30] Adam Ant: 1644
[19:31] Atticus: look at 1157 if you're on.
[19:31] Adam Ant: 1644 or 1554, which ever you prefer
[19:31] Atticus: sorry, i thought you knew what i meant in the promo event
[19:31] Adam Ant: 1644 if it will be a bandanna
[19:33] Atticus: no 1157, then?
[19:34] Atticus: it's a well known, highly desired hue.
[19:34] Adam Ant: ya, it's fine
[19:35] Adam Ant: we have a rares catelog in one of the forums (which it terribly out of date), please add this to that catelog along with how many, event, date etc
[19:35] Atticus: i think it'll make the event popular because you can't get it any other way on the shard. The prize for IPYs tournies was black clothing, which made for some really good turnouts
[19:35] Atticus: ok
[19:36] Atticus: and for future reference, it might not always be the same article of clothing, if that's ok. Shouldn't be an issue since they wont be cutable.
[19:36] Atticus: each player is getting 1 article of clothing, instead of x ammount of cloth that way.
[19:38] Adam Ant: alright, sounds good
[19:38] Atticus: ok, great.
[19:38] Atticus: so, that's 1 complete event! woot! :P
[19:38] Atticus: working on the full details for the region setting and all that as we speak.
[19:43] Adam Ant: cool
[19:44] Adam Ant: this ought to be fun :)
[19:44] Atticus: i hope so.
[19:44] Adam Ant: well, I'm heading home .. see you there
[19:44] Atticus: ok, i might not be on.
[19:44] Atticus: if not, i'll cya tomorrow
[19:44] Adam Ant: see you
[20:01] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Fri Jul 27 20:01:47 2007.
[20:09] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537394#Post537394)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537394#Post537394
[21:10] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Jul 27 21:10:12 2007.
[21:13] Adam Ant: looks good  .. that's what I like to see btw :)
[21:13] Atticus: spectator gates are ok?
[21:14] Adam Ant: yep .. that's the ghost gate, right?
[21:14] Atticus: yea
[21:15] Adam Ant: I was thinking to send out a mass email tonight on Breeding and Static Housing .. anything else big I should throw in their?
[21:15] Adam Ant: *there
[21:15] Atticus: the fact that you hired a seer? :P
[21:16] Atticus: and the first event is this coming sunday
[21:16] Adam Ant: hehe, okay ;p
[21:17] Adam Ant: *makes a note to mention mortals event*
[21:18] Atticus: sweet.
[21:18] Atticus: someone suggested making the reward for this one a blood red death shroud.
[21:18] Atticus: any thoughts? objections?
[21:19] Adam Ant: well you've jumped to like the best possible gift we could possible give
[21:19] Atticus: ya.
[21:19] Atticus: that's my thoughts.
[21:19] Adam Ant: why not save that for like some sort of elimination . best 2 of 3 .. something
[21:20] Atticus: or jot the names of mortal event winners down, then host an event just for them later
[21:20] Adam Ant: (serial numbers, serial numbers)
[21:20] Atticus: right!
[21:20] Adam Ant: you need to remember names are meaningless
[21:20] Atticus: right.
[21:21] Adam Ant: :P
[21:21] Atticus: i woulda thought of it eventually :P
[21:21] Atticus: <-- ditz
[22:57] Adam Ant: you will have spectator gates at WBB for the event?
[22:57] *** Auto-response sent to Adam Ant: I am currently away from the computer.
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[10:40] Atticus: ya, wbb
[10:48] Atticus: but, as someone pointed out theres no ghost camming on AI
[10:48] Atticus: kind of a problem for spectators :P
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jul 28 12:29:15 2007
[12:29] Adam Ant: well... can the non mortals get at the mortals? 
if not, then Empty Backpack may be sufficient
[12:29] Atticus: nah, then they can block and get in the way.
[12:29] Atticus: punch...
[12:29] Atticus: things like that.
[12:30] Adam Ant: if they cannot ge at the mortals I said
[12:30] Adam Ant: *get
[12:30] Atticus: ah.
[12:30] Adam Ant: aren't they separated?
[12:30] Atticus: ?
[12:30] Adam Ant: mortals in this part of the castle, spectators in this other part?
[12:31] Atticus: no, that's why it would be ghosts.
[12:31] Adam Ant: right, but that doesn't work (moving on)
[12:31] Atticus: the event will take place throughout the entire castle so theres really no way to make spectator "seating"
[12:31] Adam Ant: Can't you have mportals gated to onme part of the castle and spectators to anotyher?
[12:32] Atticus: they wouldn't be able to see the fight then
[12:33] Adam Ant: let me see if I can patch the region to allow sight
[12:36] Adam Ant: I'm pretty sure I can make this work :p
[12:36] Adam Ant: go ahead and plan on gosts working just fine
[12:37] Atticus: you're like a damn magician, man.
[12:37] Atticus: hey, you know we're missing one of the savage masks?
[12:37] Adam Ant: Just call me David Blane of the coding world
[12:37] Atticus: lol
[12:37] Adam Ant: :)
[12:39] Atticus: (Link: http://noctalis.com/dis/uo/r-0.shtml)http://noctalis.com/dis/uo/r-0.shtml
[12:40] Atticus: ok, in the third box down on the table in that site
[12:40] Atticus: the mask in the bottom right.... we don't seem to have that one
[12:41] Adam Ant: interesting .. okay, 
[12:41] Adam Ant: give me orders after I fix you region :P
[12:42] Atticus: i'm just letting you know. I was thinking what item to use for the reward tomorrow and stumbled accross the fact
[12:42] Atticus: kinda surprised i didn't notice before, it's my favorite one :P
[12:43] Adam Ant: yes keep track of this .. I just want to solve the current issue first
[12:43] Atticus: righto
[13:03] Adam Ant: will you have some time to test this? 
[13:04] Atticus: ya, i'm not going out till late tonight so i'm free
[13:07] Atticus: is it in now?
[13:07] Adam Ant: good .. since I'm touching ghost blindness I would like you to test. 
1. that existing custom regions don't allow ghost-sight (and that the property defaults the correct way) 
2. ghost blindness works in normal regions normally 
3. a ghost in a custom region that allows sight, will go blind maybe a minute after leaving that region (important) 
4. that ghosts retain sight in a custom region marked as GhostSighted
[13:07] Adam Ant: no .. getting close tho
[13:35] Atticus: disarmed is back on :P
[13:58] Adam Ant: okay, it's live on TC .. please test!!
[13:59] Atticus: it's an option on the region stone, right?
[14:00] Adam Ant: yes
[14:00] Adam Ant: it should be ;p
[14:02] Atticus: no drinking on the job, huh?
[14:03] Adam Ant: um..
[14:03] Adam Ant: *changes subject*
[14:06] Atticus: the castle is setup as a regular old house, right? So if a player logs out in the castle, then logs back in, he'll be ejected?
[14:06] Adam Ant: yep
[14:06] Adam Ant: you should double check it tho
[14:07] Adam Ant: see if it's private/public, etc .. take nothing for granted
[14:07] Atticus: problem #1, my char that died yesterday can't see my staff char.
[14:09] Adam Ant: the region will not restore site
[14:09] Atticus: right, figured that.
[14:10] Adam Ant: if you are already blind, you will remain blind .. (please tell players this)
[14:10] Atticus: i just thought i saw you say something before that you wanted for ghosts to be able to see staff and healers
[14:10] Adam Ant: players need to get to the castle withing the 14 minute window
[14:10] Adam Ant: not staff
[14:10] Adam Ant: kust healers
[14:17] Atticus: ok
[14:18] Adam Ant: hmm, you know the kind ransome event is tomorrow right?
[14:19] Atticus: is it? what time do those start?
[14:19] Adam Ant: 12-3 tomorrow
[14:20] Atticus: ok, mortal thing is at 5 so we should be good
[14:20] Adam Ant: :)
[15:20] Atticus: seems to be working just fine ;)
[15:20] Atticus: thanks
[15:20] Adam Ant: mp
[15:20] Adam Ant: I did some unit testing myself, and had pix do a code revirew
[15:21] Atticus: find anything?
[15:21] Adam Ant: nope .. all seems good
[15:21] Adam Ant: do you remember someone saying that they could see spells being cast thoough ghost blindness?
[15:23] Atticus: yea... i think i saw that somewhere
[15:23] Adam Ant: well, I just tested I see neither the words of power nor the animation/effect 

[15:23] Adam Ant: you've never see that?
[15:23] Atticus: hmm
[15:24] Atticus: do you have razor lable the spells? maybe that's what he was talking about
[15:24] Adam Ant: yep .. none of it shows
[15:26] Atticus: ok, mind if i setup the production event castle now?
[15:26] Adam Ant: sure, go a head
[15:27] Adam Ant: where is the spell label option in razor?
[15:27] Atticus: options, very bottom left
[15:28] Atticus: says "Spell format: {power} [{spell}]"
[15:28] Adam Ant: got it
[15:28] Adam Ant: let me try that
[15:30] Adam Ant: well, I don't see flamestrike .. let me try arrows / fireball
[15:33] Adam Ant: okay, I see arrows and arrows on the ground
[15:34] Adam Ant: okay, flying styff like magicarrow
[15:34] Adam Ant: and arrows, not flamestrike
[15:35] Atticus: are you on prod or test?
[15:35] Adam Ant: private shard
[15:35] Atticus: oh
[15:36] Atticus: well, i'm stumped on these regions.
[15:36] Adam Ant: what do you mean?
[15:36] Atticus: so, theres 2 RCs around the event castle. The one on the roof and the one outside the door.
[15:36] Atticus: the one outside the door has 2 regions, one for the front yard and one surrounding the entire castle
[15:37] Atticus: the one on the roof has 1 region that takes up like a tenth of the castle
[15:37] Atticus: what's the purpose of that one? and why even have the second RC if the outside one coveres both the castle and the front yard
[15:37] Atticus: ?
[15:38] Adam Ant: okay...
[15:38] Atticus: or did something get messed up at some point?
[15:38] Adam Ant: the one on the roof was added later for spme special fight-ring .. set the property to Disabled so as not to confuse the situation
[15:39] Atticus: ya, definately confusing :P
[15:39] Adam Ant: okay, now...
[15:39] Adam Ant: how man regions are defined on the RC (forgetting about the now disabled one)
[15:39] Adam Ant: *many
[15:39] Atticus: i think what i'm going to do, since i plan to host a lot of the mortal things if this one goes well, is
[15:39] Adam Ant: hold that thought
[15:40] Atticus: two
[15:40] Atticus: outside covers the whole castle and the front yard area.
[15:40] Atticus: so, what i'm going to do is:
[15:40] Adam Ant: okay, you will add your additional 3 buffer regions to that, correct?
[15:40] Atticus: dupe the outside one and set the duplicate to the setting for the mortal event
[15:41] Atticus: disable the main one for the event, and enable the mortal one
[15:41] Atticus: that way the event is pretty much just flicking a switch in the future
[15:41] Adam Ant: dupe what? huh?
[15:41] Atticus: the RC
[15:41] Adam Ant: don't dupe the RC
[15:41] Atticus: ok, why not?
[15:41] Adam Ant: the RC is there for events
[15:42] Adam Ant: I don't want to define a new RC for each event
[15:42] Atticus: not even reaccuring events?
[15:42] Adam Ant: you add 3 regions to the existing RC
[15:43] Adam Ant: because there are too many settings .. and we were already confused by having a second RC .. lets not make it 3
[15:43] Adam Ant: All you need to do is add 3 more rects to the existing RC, and all the settings are known to be right
[15:45] Atticus: well, the only reason i was confused by the second one was because the regions werent identical on test and prod
[15:45] Atticus: there wasn't a region region that covered the whole castle untill i added one.
[15:46] Adam Ant: you added a region that covers the whole castle?
[15:46] Atticus: on test.
[15:46] Atticus: there was already one on prod
[15:47] Atticus: not sure why they didn't match
[15:47] Adam Ant: forget the descrepancy between prod and TC for a bit
[15:47] Adam Ant: there is a bigger issue
[15:47] Atticus: right, not worried about it, it just threw me off.
[15:47] Adam Ant: was there a region on Prod that covered the entire castle?
[15:48] Atticus: yes.
[15:48] Adam Ant: there is a HousingRegion and a CustomRegion, only one us used ... which one is in effect when you are in the house?
[15:49] Atticus: what's a housing region?
[15:49] Atticus: that would be the RC on the roof?
[15:49] Adam Ant: the region for a house what allows you to lock stuff down and ban people
[15:50] Adam Ant: if you overwrite the house region with the CustomRegion, you may screw yourself out of basic housing functionality
[15:50] Atticus: both seem to be working
[15:50] Adam Ant: ok, ...
[15:51] Adam Ant: so you can ban?
[15:51] Atticus: yup
[15:52] Adam Ant: and the NoGateInto is working
[15:53] Atticus: havn't gotten that far.
[15:55] Adam Ant: alright, just know relying on proper behavior of overlapped regions is not supported .. you will need to explicitly make sure that the appropriate functions from each of those regions are working for you
[15:55] Atticus: got it
[15:56] Adam Ant: like .. say your turned off potion use for the custom region .. I know that outside the potions won't work .. but I'm not so sure about in the house where you have another region tossing it's 2 cents
[15:58] Atticus: so theres region "built into" houses, correct?
[15:58] Atticus: and the regions created by RCs are "custom regions"?
[15:59] Adam Ant: yes
[15:59] Atticus: what about town regions? are those hard coded? or is there a RC for each town?
[16:00] Adam Ant: no, the RC is a special tool for dynamic created regions .. houses and town have static regions loaded on shard-up .. they can be changed, but not dynamically
[16:01] Atticus: ok
[16:01] Atticus: so if i ever want to do a town raid, i'll have to get you or pixie to turn guards off?
[16:02] Adam Ant: no, you can modify the *settings* of a region dynamically, just not create/destroy/resize
[16:02] Adam Ant: [setguarded off
[16:02] Adam Ant: err
[16:02] Atticus: ok.
[16:02] Adam Ant: [setguarded false
[16:02] Atticus: ok, i understand.
[16:02] Adam Ant: :)
[16:04] Adam Ant: one of these days .. I would like to rewrite that portion of RunUO to get ALL regions at a point (overlapped), sort them by priority, and check/execute all the rules and handle overrides appropriately
[16:04] Adam Ant: but today, it far weaker and not really supported
[16:05] Atticus: seems like something RunUO should have paid attention to in the first place, to me.
[16:05] Adam Ant: well, they didn't need to there was no RC's 
[16:05] Adam Ant: OSI only had tiled regions
[16:06] Adam Ant: no overlaps
[16:06] Atticus: ah
[16:16] Atticus: well, not sure why but it's not working now.
[16:16] Atticus: not even on test.
[16:23] Atticus: but, i bet i know how to fix it.... How are the regions setup for castles, do you know? If i just make different regions for the courtyard, would that fix the "overlap" problem?
[16:26] Adam Ant: tell me what's not working?
[16:26] Adam Ant: whic region is taking priority?
[16:27] Atticus: i can gate into the castle courtyard
[16:27] Adam Ant: You on TC?
[16:27] Atticus: i'm on both
[16:28] Adam Ant: do you have them set the same now?
[16:28] Atticus: in terms of travel, yea
[16:28] Atticus: i don't have the extra regions added or anything yet
[16:28] Adam Ant: well, and regions
[16:28] Adam Ant: kk, brt to TC
[16:45] Atticus: Region Controls: 
  
     * add new bounds for 2 sides and back 
     * No guards 
     * NoTravelSpells 
     * No ressurecting 
  
  
 Spells 
  
     * No recall in 
     * No gate in ([props) 
     * No gate out (spell limitats) 
     * No Ressurect 
           o No meteor swarm 
           o No earthquake 
           o No Chain Lightning 
  
 structure 
  
     * delete stairs to roof 
     * lock front doors 
     * add blockers in front entrance
[16:45] Adam Ant: so one approach would be to delete the houseRegion .. but that would mean there are no friends/public/private/and no banning .. but all other aspects could be used .. 
[16:46] Atticus: would have to jail players then.
[16:46] Adam Ant: okay, say I could add ban...
[16:46] Adam Ant: could you then live with it?
[16:47] Atticus: i think so, ya.
[16:47] Atticus: no problems i can think of off the top of my head.
[16:47] Atticus: can lock stuff down via staff commands, if need be
[16:47] Adam Ant: let me delete the houseregion here on TC 

[16:47] Adam Ant: then you start testing
[16:47] Adam Ant: while I look at adding banning
[16:47] Atticus: ok
[16:47] Adam Ant: I'll need to know right away if it is missing some key functionality
[16:48] Atticus: everything will be locked up and blocked off, so even some sort of quick move command would work.
[16:49] Atticus: could just make it [ban then set the location it moves the player to to right outside the door.
[16:49] Atticus: if that's easier.
[16:51] Adam Ant: let me look into this
[17:10] Adam Ant: okay, this will be a bit tricky, but I think can do it.. 
Work under the assumption I can delete the house region, and you are responsible for bans .. if there is another problem with this plan, please let me know asap so I don't spend time on a system that won't work
[17:11] Atticus: i hope this turns out good :P
[17:11] Adam Ant: well this is good practice .. as we are having to scamper and write code at the last minute
[17:11] Adam Ant: this is what it's all about :P
[17:12] Atticus: this is the event that i thought would be the most simple for everyone out of that writeup...
[17:12] Adam Ant: going forward, you should have all the issues figured out way in advance
[17:12] Atticus: i have a feeling it's the most complicated now :P
[17:13] Atticus: next event will probably be a simple spawn with a big boss.
[17:13] Atticus: then probably another one from the promo list, maybe the "ai idol" ;)
[17:13] Adam Ant: *tries to finish this*
[17:13] Adam Ant: shh!
[17:44] Adam Ant: okay, I have region supression working...
[17:45] Adam Ant: I'll check it in so you can test, but then I may need to leave before I can get banning working
[17:45] Atticus: ok
[17:45] Adam Ant: but I may be able to do that tonight
[17:46] Atticus: alright
[17:46] Atticus: thanks a lot for all this, btw.
[17:47] Adam Ant: ah, my pleasure :)
[17:47] Adam Ant: making the shard a better place!
[17:47] Atticus: 1 event at a time
[17:47] Atticus: 
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Jul 28 18:06:28 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jul 28 18:06:40 2007
[18:06] Adam Ant: will there be access to the castle from right outside?
[18:06] Atticus: what do you mean?
[18:07] Adam Ant: any gates or other ways in 
[18:07] Atticus: wasn't planning on it, but it wouldn't hurt.
[18:08] Atticus: will be good to have several ways to get in. people will probably try to grief the gates.
[18:08] Adam Ant: no, lets not have that .. because... 
banning is complicated as I need to 'remember' who was banned .. however I should be able to add "Remove thy self" pretty easy, and is there is no easy way back in, then that may be sufficient
[18:09] Atticus: wont matter
[18:09] Adam Ant: ?
[18:09] Atticus: gates inside the castle will be closed when the event starts.
[18:09] Adam Ant: cool
[18:09] Adam Ant: then I'll go with remove thy self
[18:09] Atticus: so just go with remove thyself
[18:09] Adam Ant: I'll check in this first bit now tho so you can play with it
[18:09] Atticus: sounds good
[18:10] Adam Ant: okay, the house sign will have a SupressRegion property 
[18:10] Atticus: awesome
[18:11] Adam Ant: turn that on to supress the housing region (meaning the custom region underneath will take priority)
[18:15] Atticus: ok
[18:15] Atticus: let me know when it's good to go
[18:15] Adam Ant: kk
[18:32] Adam Ant: Okay, the server is restarting .. while it boots, here is what I'd like you to do...
[18:34] Adam Ant: 1. make sure all your region 'rules' are as you want them and that all is working according to plan .. assume nothing 
2. Check the castle for chests and other containers , make sure they have nothing of value in them as I don't know what effect deleting the house region will have on access control 
3. keep you eye on items in the castle over the next hour .. do they decay? do they become movable?
[18:34] Adam Ant: All *should* be well .. but these things need to be verified
[18:34] Atticus: ok
[18:35] Adam Ant: Whil you do that, I'll try to squeeze in Remove thy self
[18:35] Atticus: ok
[18:35] Atticus: i'm lookin' around now
[18:35] Adam Ant: remember to turn on SuppressRegions in the house sign
[18:35] Adam Ant: you can verify it by standing on the steps and doing 
[where
[18:35] Adam Ant: before turning it off you should get 3 regions and a mutli
[18:36] Adam Ant: after, you should get two regions and a multi
[18:36] Adam Ant: (one of the regions is the 'default' region and can be ignored)
[18:36] Atticus: ok
[18:36] Adam Ant: servers up!
[18:52] Atticus: seems to be working
[18:52] Atticus: couldn't  gate in
[18:52] Adam Ant: :)
[18:53] Atticus: do you mind if i tear down couple walls, though? I want to do it to create a nice flow for players to run around.
[18:53] Atticus: just need to rip down like 2 walls
[18:53] Adam Ant: you can't edit a multi unless they were added later
[18:54] Adam Ant: like the stairs were added so you can delete them .. but you cannot edit the actual castle (multi)
[19:02] Atticus: hmm
[19:02] Atticus: might be able to accomplish what i want by adding some walls..
[19:04] Adam Ant: hmm, I may have all speech commands working .. lol
[19:04] Adam Ant: so your friends and whatnot can ban/remove without staff powers
[19:04] Atticus: "check your socks"
[19:05] Adam Ant: Chopsticks!
[19:05] Atticus: "OMG! chopsticks! quit putting things on me, david blaine!"
[19:05] Adam Ant: You evil man!
[19:05] Adam Ant: get away from me!
[19:05] Adam Ant: HAHA
[19:05] Adam Ant: that is like one of my favorite videos of all time
[19:07] Atticus: i know
[19:07] Atticus: best part is him looking into the camera
[19:07] Adam Ant: yep! 
 
(o) (o)
[19:07] Atticus: ?
[19:07] Atticus: clocks?
[19:08] Adam Ant: those are his eyes ;p
[19:08] Atticus: oh, damn trillian
[19:09] Adam Ant: wow, it works 
[19:10] Adam Ant: I added a new property to the Region Controler to emulate a house region
[19:10] Atticus: wowza
[19:10] Adam Ant: it's probably not complete, but it does handle the speech commands
[19:11] Adam Ant: even lock this down secure this, release this, etc
[19:12] Adam Ant: ah .. but
[19:12] Adam Ant: and I think this is a normal castle thing .. hou cannot ban or eject someone that is in the courtyard
[19:12] Adam Ant: do you agree that that's normal?
[19:12] Atticus: yea, that's how they all are.
[19:13] Adam Ant: okay, keep that in mind
[19:13] Atticus: if you could make it where you CAN through the region controls that would be awesome though
[19:13] Atticus: that way people can't log chars out and log them in for the event on non mortal chars.
[19:13] Atticus: well, ban/boot people who log into it.
[19:14] Adam Ant: we'll see
[19:15] Adam Ant: okay .. banning and remove thyself both eject, and that should be fine for this version .. but the ban is not preventing the player from returning, which just means I need to add more code (but not needed at thie time)
[19:15] Adam Ant: but I wanted you to be aware
[19:16] Adam Ant: so your helpers can use either
[19:16] Atticus: sounds good.
[19:18] Adam Ant: wow .. friends and co-owners can even lock stuff down and the security seems to work
[19:18] Atticus: what about non friends logging out/back in?
[19:19] Adam Ant: that's not in there .. I can probably add it tho .. however it still won't work for the court yard . is that ok?
[19:20] Atticus: ya, i'll just keep it locked off
[19:20] Atticus: but it's really important for the castle itself so that players don't get in on non-mortals
[19:20] Adam Ant: kk, I'll start on that
[19:22] Atticus: did you install the "scripts pack with pandoras box"?
[19:31] Adam Ant: no .. is it worthwhile?
[19:31] Atticus: just asking. i'm setting up a profile on pandoras
[19:32] Atticus: it's asking me, so i'm asking you
[19:32] Adam Ant: kk, tell me later if its worth it .. for now I'm back to coding
[19:33] Adam Ant: okay, note...
[19:34] Adam Ant: now you should probably redefine the rect to be one large rect that covers the entire castle and the buffers
[19:34] Adam Ant: instead of all the little ones we had around the edges
[19:34] Adam Ant: know what I mean?
[19:34] Atticus: ... god i'm a ditz
[19:35] Adam Ant: does that make sense?
[19:35] Atticus: yep
[19:36] Adam Ant: the reason I realizedd it is that I was crossing regions (enter and exit messages) while inside the castle
[19:37] Adam Ant: you can still use multi regions if you want say a bigger on in front than on the sids say .. or some other special requirement, but you need one core one that IS the castle rect
[19:37] Adam Ant: heh, can you brain hold another factoid?
[19:37] Atticus: i hope so, but i just don't know any more :P
[19:37] Adam Ant: hehe
[19:38] Atticus: it's because i didn't get my saturday afternoon margarita... that's what it is.
[19:38] Adam Ant: okay, without going into geometry ... 
[19:39] Adam Ant: when you define rectatangles using the targeting method... you would stand INSIDE the castle in the NW corner for the first point, and OUTSIDE the castle on the SE corner for the second point .. this will gibe you a perfect castle Rest
[19:39] Adam Ant: *rect
[19:40] Adam Ant: same rules apply of you are entering them manually
[19:40] Atticus: hm
[19:40] Atticus: ok
[19:40] Adam Ant: rectangles Don't include the top and right size, but do include the right and bottom
[19:41] Adam Ant: it's a little odd, but it will be second nature to you soon enough
[19:52] Atticus: seems easy enough
[20:21] Adam Ant: hah, auto eject on login now works .. anything else?
[20:22] Atticus: "no! i am not reading that fucking sign!"
[20:22] Atticus: and to answer your question, no :P
[20:22] Atticus: that should be everything, i think.
[20:22] Atticus: i'm just twinking the event castle then we should be all set for tomorrow.
[20:23] Adam Ant: okay, I'll check it in .. and I'll want you to test it ;p
[20:23] Atticus: can do.
[21:13] Adam Ant: okay, I have banning working as well .. but you will need to reset the ban location outside the custom region
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[21:22] Atticus: ok
[21:22] Adam Ant: I'm just testing now .. I'll be checking in shortly
[21:42] Adam Ant: Okay, I think I'm done ...
[21:42] Adam Ant: Your tasks...
[21:46] Adam Ant: On both TC and Prod 
1. disable the arena controller  
2. delete all regions in the main RC 
3. Add a core region to the main RC which is the exact rect of the castle (excluding steps) 
4. Add a region including the steps (I'll help you) 
5. NOW .. create your 4 buffer zones 
6. reset the ban location outside all RC zones 
7. turn on IsHouseRegion on controller 
8. turn on SuppressRegion on the house
[21:46] Adam Ant: I think that is your check list
[21:47] Adam Ant: I'll come help you on TC if you have a minute, but Prod will be all yours 
[21:48] Atticus: ok
[21:48] Atticus: lets do it
[21:48] Adam Ant: :)
[21:48] Adam Ant: I'm at the castle
[23:56] Atticus: ok... RCs are all set on prod and i did some touch-up work in the castle to give it some tactical features/perpetual motion.
[23:57] Atticus: erm, i still have to do a couple things with the rc/house sign once you get that merged in, though.
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[10:37] Adam Ant: server's been restarted with region updates :)
[10:37] Atticus: swweet
[10:37] Atticus: was just making the gates
[10:37] Adam Ant: cool
[11:11] Atticus: oh, you wanted me to remind you about the missing savage mask
[11:11] Atticus: when you were done with all that stuff
[11:27] Adam Ant: kk, thanks
[11:40] Atticus: i think instead of making people page me, i'm going to require that they have their supply pouch for the event in their bank
[11:40] Atticus: then i'll just pop their bank open and give it to them inside the castle... will be a lot easier.
[11:40] Atticus: for everyone.
[11:47] Adam Ant: yeah, that's fine
[11:57] Adam Ant: so you completly redid the regions at the castle right?
[11:57] Adam Ant: (mother hen here)
[11:57] Atticus: yup
[11:57] Adam Ant: :)
[11:57] Adam Ant: *tries not to nag*
[11:57] Atticus: deleted them all, and redid them to match test
[11:57] Atticus: it's ok
[11:57] Atticus: i do it to myself, too :P
[11:57] Atticus: i already quadrupal checked everything.
[11:58] Atticus: just posted this: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537746#Post537746)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537746#Post537746)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537746#Post537746(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537746#Post537746)
[11:58] Adam Ant: *resistes the urge to quiz you*
[11:58] Atticus: come on, try me...
[11:58] Adam Ant: dispellable gates?
[11:58] Atticus: :rols sleeves up:
[11:58] Atticus: covered
[11:59] Adam Ant: suppressregion?
[11:59] Atticus: done
[11:59] Adam Ant: IsHousingRegion?
[11:59] Atticus: yup
[11:59] Adam Ant: um..
[11:59] Adam Ant: Mortals only?
[11:59] Atticus: yup
[11:59] Adam Ant: Empty backpack
[11:59] Atticus: and empty packs
[12:00] Adam Ant: okay, you can send [bc announcements after the event today to remind folks of the mortal event
[12:00] Atticus: ok
[12:00] Atticus: posted a reminder on the boards too
[12:01] Adam Ant: yep!
[12:01] Adam Ant: ban location?
[12:01] Atticus: done
[12:01] Atticus: right outside the region bound
[12:02] Adam Ant: non guarded?
[12:03] Adam Ant: (sometimes gets turned on)
[12:03] Atticus: guards are off
[12:03] Adam Ant: I think when adding regions
[12:03] Adam Ant: lightlevel?
[12:03] Atticus: counts are off, too.
[12:03] Atticus: didn't touch the light level
[12:03] Adam Ant: kk
[12:04] Atticus: what's "no external harmful" do?
[12:05] Adam Ant: for arena stuff .. it's off right?
[12:05] Atticus: yup
[12:07] Adam Ant: arena RC off?
[12:07] Adam Ant: and double check murder count switch .. don't what that messed up
[12:08] Atticus: nomurderzone: true
[12:08] Atticus: arena rc: disabled
[12:08] Atticus: no gate into. no recall into.
[12:08] Adam Ant: and you get the message when you enter/exit?
[12:08] Atticus: plus, i deleted all the doors and replaced them with walls so that theres no chance of anyone logging into the field and having a friend open the door for them
[12:09] Adam Ant: you've tested 'login for non friend and get bounced out"?
[12:09] Atticus: yup
[12:11] Adam Ant: :)
[12:12] Atticus: and if all goes well with this one, i'm gonna write up a template to make switching the RCs around for this event easier.
[12:12] Atticus: update the "things to do" i posted before...
[12:15] Adam Ant: maybe clear the ban list, and double check friends/co-owners and remove anyone that is not working for you
[12:16] Atticus: don't have anyone yet.
[12:16] Atticus: i don't like anyone knowing i'm a counselor, so i'm kind of stumped.
[12:16] Atticus: but should be ok since i'm doing it in the bank now.
[12:16] Atticus: erm, doing the supply bag thing through peoples banks.
[12:16] Atticus: so i'll be there to keep an eye on them
[12:17] Adam Ant: yeah, I like that better
[12:17] Atticus: ya, way easier and it'll take less time.
[14:19] Adam Ant: do you have a good rapport with Yogi?
[14:20] Atticus: yup
[14:20] Atticus: yogi will be a great addition to the team.
[14:20] Adam Ant: Can you look into this and talk to him if the moderation was too harsh? 
Harsh moderating.   
Bravado Bravado   
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Registered: 07-26-2007  
Posts: 0  Do you believe this moderation is a bit too harsh? It looked like harmless fun, and Yogi stepped in like the old nun with the ruler slapping everyones hand for enjoying themselves. It wouldn't seem out of place in a strict catholic school, but this is a video game forum, right? People come here to have fun. I could be wrong and it could be considered spamming, but I just don't see the need for such harsh moderating.  
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/537427/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/537427/gonew/1#UNREAD
[14:21] Adam Ant: he does seem to over moderate sometimes
[14:21] Adam Ant: I've not looked at thie one, but I was hoping you could handle it
[14:22] Atticus: doesn't seem like anything was hurt. It's a thread where someoen asked a question, and several people replied with the exact same answer.
[14:23] Atticus: he just locked it, didn't send out any warnings or anything.
[14:23] Atticus: but, i'll talk to him.
[14:23] Adam Ant: yeah.. he doesn't need to moderate like that, especially when players are having fun
[14:24] Atticus: ok.
[14:24] Adam Ant: had it beed 56 replies, okay sure .. but not 8
[14:24] Adam Ant: when in douby, lay low
[14:24] Adam Ant: when in doubt, lay low
[14:48] Adam Ant: ICQ me if Crazie pages about not being able to apply a storage upgrade please
[14:48] Atticus: i believe he was handled already
[14:48] Adam Ant: ah, okay .. good
[14:48] Atticus: 2 story villa? moderate upgrade?
[14:48] Adam Ant: I believe so, yes
[14:49] Atticus: ok
[14:49] Atticus: hey, how do you set your body value back to normal?
[14:49] Adam Ant: what did you do!
[14:49] Atticus: ?
[14:49] Adam Ant: [set bodyvalue 400
[14:49] Adam Ant: did you change your bodyvalue?
[14:50] Atticus: on test.
[14:50] Atticus: ya
[14:51] Atticus: not ok on test?
[14:51] Adam Ant: yes .. I was teasing you
[14:51] Atticus: damn it
[14:52] Atticus: damn you :P
[14:52] Atticus: i got yogi pretty good yesterday, too :P
[14:52] Adam Ant: whenever I would ICQ Kitaras/Zenroth with a problem he would reply.. "What did you do!"
[14:52] Atticus: He was icqing me asking if it's ok for him to zip around on his counselor.
[14:52] Atticus: so i changed my name to Adam Ant, took my seer robe off and yelled at him :P
[14:53] Adam Ant: haha
[14:53] Adam Ant: bastage!
[14:53] Adam Ant: lol
[14:54] Atticus: "you want to explain to me why you're zipping around on your staff character? ... unacceptable!"
[14:55] Adam Ant: I hope you cleared that up :p
[14:55] Atticus: nope.
[14:55] Atticus: in fact, he's still in jail... squelched
[14:55] Atticus: I'll let him out later today :P
[14:56] Adam Ant: why don't I believe you
[14:56] Atticus: :P
[14:58] Atticus: hey, you're OK with chaptered quests, right?
[14:59] Adam Ant: yeah
[15:00] Atticus: ok, i'll post what i got after i run a few dittley ones for practice
[15:00] Atticus: dittley spawn events, that is.
[15:00] Adam Ant: alright
[16:25] Atticus: ok, so at the ransom quest... a bunch of people have taken over the fort and boxed all the ghosts in.
[16:25] Atticus: they can't get out to rez, and for some reason help stuck isn't working there. Can i unstuck them? or would that qualify as interferance?
[16:45] Adam Ant: ytou can use [stuck on them
[16:46] Adam Ant: helpstuck is diabled in strongholds (for obvious reasons)
[16:46] Atticus: what reason is that?
[16:46] Adam Ant: helpstucking out with all the loot
[16:46] Atticus: didn't you change helpstuck so that you couldn't use it if you had loot on you?
[16:46] Adam Ant: are the players blocking with crates and such?
[16:47] Atticus: ya, boxes
[16:47] Adam Ant: okay, lets talk about the options later .. for now just help these poor folks
[16:47] Atticus: lol
[17:24] Adam Ant: okay, you're on your own for a couple hours while I take the fam to the Simpson's Movie .. 
Spider pig, spider pig, does whatever a spider pig does...
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[17:51] Atticus: aright boss
[17:51] Atticus: cya soon
[20:15] Adam Ant: back
[20:16] Atticus: kjust about to start
[20:16] Atticus: just gave the last guy his things
[20:25] Adam Ant: Was optimus fiiended?
[20:25] Atticus: no
[20:26] Adam Ant: somehow optimus was banned .. 
[20:26] Atticus: why?
[20:26] Adam Ant: or lost conn .. that';s it 

[20:26] Atticus: ya, prolly lost conn
[20:26] Adam Ant: I just put him back in the castle
[20:26] Atticus: how'd he get back in?
[20:26] Atticus: ah, thanks
[20:26] Adam Ant: maybe on purpose?
[20:27] Atticus: can i spawn neira at the end? :P
[20:30] Adam Ant: okay, not in the castle tho 

[20:30] Atticus: sweet :P
[20:46] Adam Ant: when you do the niera thing, rename yourself to Lord British beore sending out an RP request for help!
[20:47] Adam Ant: using [bc
[20:49] Atticus: where would you like me to spawn her?
[20:49] Atticus: actually, a lot of people logged
[20:49] Atticus: maybe now's not a good time for neira
[20:49] Adam Ant: outside the castle 

[20:49] Adam Ant: say all the humans has attracted her bllod thrist
[20:50] Adam Ant: *blood
[20:50] Adam Ant: all the 'mortals' :)
[20:50] Atticus: ok
[20:50] Atticus: sounds good :P
[20:50] Atticus: do i have to add a nav beacon or anything? or just let her wander?
[20:51] Atticus: and do i just [add her? or should i add a spawner?
[20:51] Adam Ant: [add is fine
[20:56] Atticus: hmm, what if she walks into a guard zone?
[20:56] Adam Ant: hmm
[20:57] Adam Ant: is they take it towards town, [move it back 

[20:58] Atticus: grr, people keep moving her south :P
[21:05] Atticus: never ever spawning something like this again :P
[21:06] Adam Ant: yeah, what I used to do was spawn som small stuff outside the event while there was still a bunch pr poeple arond .. if more show, then scale it up .. 
[21:07] Adam Ant: you current crowd's not really equiped to take her
[21:07] Atticus: ahh, that sounds good
[21:10] Atticus: at least this guys probably having a blast :P
[21:16] Atticus: you call lily?
[21:16] Adam Ant: nope
[21:17] Atticus: ah, PAGs on her now.
[21:19] Atticus: drop her while i have the chance?
[21:21] Adam Ant: I need to go cut the grass .. back in a bit
[21:21] Adam Ant: no more crazy stuff :P
[21:21] Atticus: righto!
[21:24] Atticus: announce that neira has "fled"?
[21:39] Atticus: ok, neira's reign of terror is over :P i'm gonna hit to sack.
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[17:28] Atticus: Do you have the command where you can drop several of the same item onto several hexes? i think it's a 3x3 box, usually?
[17:29] Adam Ant: hexes?
[17:29] Atticus: ok, found "splash gold," (which is pretty kick ass the way it does it :P) what about the ability to splash other stuff the same way?
[17:29] Adam Ant: nope, don't have one of those
[17:34] Atticus: aha! yes you do :P
[17:34] Atticus: well, sort of. You can do it through pandoras box, for future reference.
[17:35] Adam Ant: well, I woulen't use an external tool for that
[17:35] Atticus: well, can do it through typing, but easy with pandoras box.
[17:36] Adam Ant: only building, but not as a core system
[17:36] Adam Ant: we wrote splashgold .. if we needed something else, I would write it as well
[17:37] Adam Ant: I don't like relying on extrrnal, 3rd party systems
[17:37] Atticus: well, you can just type [tylez  
[17:37] Atticus: doesn't do the flamestrikes and all that, but it still works.
[17:38] Adam Ant: well you can do that ingame
[17:38] Adam Ant: that's not pandora's box .. that a server command
[17:38] Adam Ant: pandora's just wropping the call for you
[17:38] Atticus: that's what i'm saying. sorry
[17:38] Adam Ant: *wrapping
[17:38] Atticus: right.
[17:38] Adam Ant: okay .. well that would be ugly!
[17:38] Adam Ant: :P
[17:39] Adam Ant: we need sounds and lights!
[17:39] Adam Ant: (and a way to manage what quality gets dropped with some randomization in therer)
[17:39] Adam Ant: you wouldn't want to just tile 200 exceptional katanas
[17:40] Atticus: ok, i'll stick to gold then.
[17:42] Adam Ant: well, if you need somethingh else, then lats talk about it .. but I 'm just sayin'
[17:42] Atticus: anywho, the reason i ask is: i was thinking about doing one of the "bandit lord" quests (quest ticket/overland spawn promo event from the promo event thread), or another simple spawn today, would that be alright?
[17:43] Atticus: well, would be nice to eventually be able to "splash" other stuff, but gold will work just honky dory for now ;)
[17:44] Adam Ant: well, I'd want to know what you are doing, and what the reward is
[17:44] Adam Ant: *remembers Nrira*
[17:44] Atticus: i was just gonna [add a big monster somewhere and see what happens again.
[17:44] Atticus: that went pretty well last time, i think.
[17:44] Adam Ant: impromptu events are risky and I'm not quite comfortable with your judgement just yet ;p
[17:45] Adam Ant: Neira went well?
[17:45] Atticus: yeeaaa!
[17:45] Adam Ant: haha
[17:45] Adam Ant: I know you're messing with me! :P
[17:46] Atticus: my favorite part was me racing around going "oh shit oh shit, where'd she go?"
[17:46] Adam Ant: yeah .. hence my reluctance
[17:46] Atticus: :P
[17:46] Adam Ant: so .. here
[17:46] Adam Ant: let me give you an event
[17:46] Atticus: wouldn't happen with bandit lord, though, since I would be the bandit lord
[17:46] Adam Ant: one that is failsafe
[17:46] Atticus: and it would be announced through a quest ticket
[17:47] Adam Ant: well, YOU being the lord has a whole other set of problem, ones which take more time than I have to sort through (one hit kills, all your stuff is newbied, etc..)
[17:48] Adam Ant: if you would like tho, I can give you a workable alternative
[17:48] Atticus: sure, i'm all ears
[17:48] Adam Ant: okay, I woiuld want you to test it on TC first
[17:48] Atticus: already logged in :P
[17:49] Adam Ant: basically you spawn one of our overland bandits 
 get a reward 
put it in a small crate 
quest ticket the crate 
place the ticket on the overland bandit
[17:49] Adam Ant: no fuss, no muss
[17:50] Atticus: set the crates weight to 11 or so?
[17:50] Adam Ant: no
[17:50] Adam Ant: *wonders if you will see the problem*
[17:51] Adam Ant: *gets out seer score card*
[17:51] Atticus: drawing a blank here.
[17:51] Adam Ant: you just created some funky broken rare that miss reports it's weight
[17:51] Atticus: aha
[17:51] Adam Ant: never set properties
[17:52] Adam Ant: almost never
[17:52] Adam Ant: really
[17:52] Adam Ant: if you want to throw 10 strones of crap in there then fine
[17:52] Adam Ant: if you wanted something tougher, you could use like a brigand leader
[17:53] Adam Ant: or savage witch doctor
[17:53] Adam Ant: but before you did it .. I'd want to know hoe many players we have online, and how big the reward it
[17:53] Adam Ant: *is
[17:53] Atticus: ya, that's what i'm trying to think of... the reward.
[17:54] Atticus: ok... i'll get back to ya ;)
[17:55] Adam Ant: kk
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[22:39] Adam Ant: Oh, I think you did a good job. You were quick with the bags and the tourney was executed nicely. Heck, when I had that client crash you (or someone) even put me back into the fight since it auto threw me not only outta the castle but out of the zone. For a moment I had considered cutting my losses and logging since I knew I was gonna lose 2 v 1...but I figured its better to go out fightin.  

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[22:39] Adam Ant: Actually that was me .. next time we may want a mortal gate at the entrance, or nearby fo kicked ghosts?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jul 31 15:30:33 2007
[15:31] Atticus: ya, that'd be good.
[15:31] Atticus: gonna limit pots next time, too.
[15:32] Atticus: everyone went pretty overkill with them.
[15:32] Adam Ant: one problem with the gate outside is guys running at the end to fight
[15:32] Atticus: ?
[15:32] Atticus: oh, no. all gates were closed off before the fighting started.
[15:34] Atticus: hey, how hard would it be to make it possible for me to remove the "tamed" tag from controled crits?
[15:34] Adam Ant: the reason for the suggestions was because Endgame got kicked from the castle because he lost connection. Had I not seen him at the front door and moved him back, he likely would have been killed by the roaming PKs
[15:35] Atticus: that's a possibility even with the gate open, though.
[15:35] Atticus: as long as all gates get closed before the event actually starts there shouldn't be a problem with people running in near the end of the fight.
[15:38] Atticus: or am i not understanding you?
[15:40] Adam Ant: no, yopu're not getting my point
[15:41] Adam Ant: I pasted a comment from someone that was saying what a great job you did .. he said that he lost connection and was booted from the castle .. I just happened to see him and [move him back 
Had I not seen him, Endgame would have been eliminated from the competitopn because it was kicked from the castle. Get it?
[15:41] Adam Ant: Not only that, but he would have likeley died to the PKs outside of the castle
[15:42] Atticus: ah, ok.
[15:42] Atticus: i get it, i slipped up.
[15:42] Atticus: there was another oversight that we lucked out on too, that being explosion pots from outside.
[15:43] Atticus: I think a good idea would be to merge the options from tourney stones into moongates and RC's if possible.
[15:44] Atticus: moongates: if you have x, y, and z you can't pass. 
[15:44] Atticus: RCs: You can't use x, y, and z, here. Not sure how that would work with things like magic weapons/armor, though.
[16:17] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537394#Post537394)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537394#Post537394
[16:17] Atticus: i think that covers everything, now.
[16:17] Atticus: edited the first post...
[18:22] Atticus: if i'm hosting an event somewhere and players box the area in or out, am i allowed to delete what ever they're using to block everyone in?
[18:23] Adam Ant: t an approach I like
[18:23] Adam Ant: *not
[18:23] Atticus: so an event at the cove orc fort would prolly be a bad idea then?
[18:24] Adam Ant: non sequitur
[18:24] Adam Ant: meaning ... that line of reasoning does not follow
[18:25] Atticus: well, it would be pretty easy for a PK group to come in and block everyone in.
[18:25] Atticus: i guess they could still recall/gate in/out though.
[18:27] Adam Ant: also, depending on how you present it, defence against such an tactic could part of the event
[18:28] Atticus: trying to keep it pretty simple for my first PVM event.
[18:28] Atticus: in x years.
[18:31] Adam Ant: ahted you've done 90%^ point me at the write up to proof
[18:31] Atticus: que?
[18:32] Adam Ant: *after
[18:32] Adam Ant: (proof read)
[18:32] Atticus: ah, ok.
[19:35] Atticus: can you let me know when test is back up?
[19:57] Adam Ant: sure, just booted it .. give it 5
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[09:52] Adam Ant: There is a post in GD with an old audio interview I did with Fear of BattleVortex .. I also added links to some stratics interviews I did .. for historical reasons, it mak be good to find a place on our siet to link these .. they don't need to be a focal point .. but somewhere where we talk about our beginnings .. "about us" or something
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[14:47] Adam Ant: I'm okay if you want to follow up on this 
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[15:55] Atticus: you're ok with ronk making a front page for game-master.net?
[16:03] Adam Ant: no, I was wanting you to weigh thje ideas and implement (withing our BB software) the suggestions
[16:03] Adam Ant: if they are good and a better
[16:03] Adam Ant: change for change sake is not worth anything
[16:03] Adam Ant: and this may just be that
[16:03] Atticus: nah, the front page is the face of the shard to a lot of people.
[16:03] Atticus: It's why i wanted to make one in the first place.
[16:04] Adam Ant: but if there is truly a good idea (needs to be decided) AND it can be implemented withing the BBS software, then why not
[16:05] Adam Ant: well, if you exit the UBB software and go to HTML .. youve now mad a huge project .. how do you get news in there? You need news puiblishing tools, you need to link all the stuff that we already link .. 
[16:05] Atticus: add a "news" link that goes to the portal page.
[16:05] Adam Ant: I just don't think replacing the fromt page is worth it..
[16:05] Adam Ant: changing it, yes .. a
[16:06] Adam Ant: addin an image gallery with Pic of the week yes
[16:06] Adam Ant: putting the pic of the week on the front page .. yes
[16:06] Adam Ant: there is lots we can do to cleanup the front page
[16:06] Atticus: ok.
[16:06] Adam Ant: Don't get me wrong .. I'm not asking you to DO anything
[16:06] Atticus: i hear ya.
[16:06] Adam Ant: I was only saying... LISTEN to what is said
[16:07] Adam Ant: if someone makes a reasonable suggestion, AND if can be done with the UBB software, consider it
[16:08] Atticus: i'll spruce it up. Pic of the week should be good, especially since i'm moving forward on the seer stuff, and yogi is going to do some "reporting" now.
[16:08] Atticus: But, i'll keep an eye on ronk, too.
[16:08] Adam Ant: yeah, lily and I were talking about that
[16:09] Atticus: I don't personally like ronk, but he seems pretty honest and motivated. So if he comes up with a web page that looks decent, it might be worth letting him move forward.
[16:09] Adam Ant: hmm?
[16:09] Atticus: That thread is him working twords designing an HTML front page.
[16:09] Adam Ant: you mean making him an admin and letting him rearange the UBB?
[16:10] Atticus: No.
[16:10] Adam Ant: I don't want to replace the front page with HTML
[16:10] Atticus: I'll do the ubb stuff, i'm ok with that.
[16:10] Adam Ant: How will we do news?
[16:10] Atticus: ok
[16:10] Adam Ant: How will we make use of all the neato little widgets UBB gives us?
[16:11] Adam Ant: I'm betting that mosyt of what ronl had there CAN be done drom within the UBB
[16:11] Adam Ant: like that graphic ay the top
[16:11] Adam Ant: *at
[16:11] Adam Ant: You can insert a AI graphic/ logo in the front page
[16:11] Adam Ant: you can insert about anything you want
[16:12] Atticus: ok.
[16:12] Atticus: fuck it, lets see if i can become a UBB guru.
[16:12] Adam Ant: there upu go!
[16:12] Atticus: learnings good anyways :P
[16:12] Adam Ant: that's what I'm talking about
[16:13] Adam Ant: go to UBBCentral
[16:13] Adam Ant: somewhere they have a BUNCH of themes and links to other REALLY nice sites
[16:14] Atticus: ok...
[16:14] Adam Ant: I just don't want to chuck a completely integrated system for an HTML page that looks good at first blush, but reflect NONE of the active content we have in the rest oif the system
[16:15] Atticus: speaking of updating the site, i was trying to add the new counselors to the staff roster but for some reason the changes i tried to make wouldn't go through
[16:17] Adam Ant: was rhiannon editing when you were?
[16:17] Adam Ant: I mentioned a while back that rhi was about to make some changes
[16:17] Adam Ant: I wonder if you two stepped on each others changes
[16:18] Atticus: no, i waited a couple days to make sure i didn't
[16:18] Atticus: it was just yesterday that i tried updating it.
[16:20] Adam Ant: so .. none of your changes change anything displayed, or you don't get the correct results?
[16:20] Atticus: doesn't change anything displayed.
[16:20] Atticus: I don't even get the "table updated" message, or what it says in the control panel
[16:22] Adam Ant: you're pressing the Submit button? :P
[16:22] Atticus: yes, adam, i'm pressing the submit button :P
[16:23] Atticus: I'm not THAT big of a ditz :P
[16:23] Adam Ant: hehe, alrght .. I'll go change someone's name to buggers
[16:29] Adam Ant: yep, something's broken
[16:30] Adam Ant: I can't look at it now, I'm trying to get some working on houses done .. this will have to wait
[16:30] Atticus: ok, i got an event proposal in the event forum too, if you get a chance.
[16:30] Adam Ant: maybe tonight or tomorrow
[16:55] Atticus: ok
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[20:44] Atticus: did you get a "readme" or tutorial or anything with UBB when you downloaded it?
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[00:09] Adam Ant: yes, but all the docs are online .. 
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[00:09] Adam Ant: let me see if I can locate those for you
[00:09] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.ubbcentral.com/docs.php)http://www.ubbcentral.com/docs.php
[00:10] Adam Ant: :P
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[16:22] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=539038#Post539038)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=539038#Post539038 can I edit out cassandras remarks about DFI? She's done this a few times in suggestion threads. "We should have this or that" then cass will come in and say "well, defiance already does this, go check out what they do... and do it like them."
[16:22] Atticus: it's starting to seem like she's TRYING to advertise DFI
[16:24] Adam Ant: yep, delete references, and warn here about it
[19:38] Atticus: The config.inc.php file found in your C:/Inetpub/vhosts/game-master.net/httpdocs/pit/includes directory is not writeable. Please fix the permissions on this file and try again.
 
[19:39] Atticus: i think that might be why we couldn't update the staff roster.... what evers wrong with that file seems to be stopping us from updatin anything in the control panel.
[19:39] Adam Ant: okay, let me fix .. good sleuth work!!
[19:40] Atticus: i didnt do anything... i've been trying to update a couple things, but every time i do i get smacked in the mind by that message :P
[19:41] Atticus: slowly figuring out how to beautify the boards, just need to get a header/link table.
[19:50] Atticus: I got a question for ya, too. Before you updated the forums, on the portal page above where the news displayed, theres was a little static blurb about AI... "Angel Island, or Our UO (OUO) as we like to call it... ), How did you get that box? And would it hold HTML?
[19:55] Adam Ant: I don't remember how we got the box, and it probably would hold HTML. 
The permissions are correct on the file, but I expect my hosting software is applying some security .. I'll open a ticket and let you known when it's resolved
[19:56] Atticus: ok... i'll figure it out eventually.
[19:56] Atticus: biggest thing that i think is going to hold me back is not knowing HTML/css, but i bet i can pull something off the NVU...
[20:09] Adam Ant: try a simple control panel update plz .. anything to test to see if I have unblocked that file
[20:10] Atticus: nope.
[20:10] Adam Ant: hmm
[20:12] Atticus: afk a min
[20:12] Adam Ant: kk
[20:19] Atticus: back
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[05:16] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520
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[10:04] Adam Ant: *reads*
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[13:42] Adam Ant: Banning GOD in game for extreme language 
GOD (acct apple, SN 0x00014248, IP 71.34.241.219)  
Please watch for him as I'll be gone all next week
[13:43] Adam Ant: Could you please make the appropriate update to whaever forum tracks such things
[14:30] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=539288#Post539288)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=539288#Post539288
[15:19] Atticus: ok, banned him from the forums too.
[15:19] Adam Ant: did he have an account?
[15:19] Atticus: not that i could find.
[15:19] Atticus: but banned his IP anyways.
[15:19] Adam Ant: you added his IP?
[15:19] Adam Ant: so did I ;p
[15:20] Atticus: really? i didn't see it in the list
[15:20] Adam Ant: 71....219 I believe
[15:20] Atticus: ahhh, it automatically organizes IPs numerically
[15:21] Atticus: ok, well that son of a bitch is twice-banned, no cheese.
[15:21] Adam Ant: ;p
[15:23] Adam Ant: I'll read all you events and stuff once I'm happily ensconced at Pismo .. right now I'm posting the updates, then I'm out of here for a few hours
[15:23] Atticus: sweet
[15:23] Atticus: the one i added in there is just a little orc spawn with a mini boss.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Aug 04 01:10:29 2007
[01:10] Adam Ant: You on?
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[14:30] Atticus: i am now... what's up?
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[16:28] Adam Ant: oh, I just wanted you to manage the boards since the Silk blowup..
[16:28] Adam Ant: how's that going .. and crazyness?
[16:28] Atticus: nah, nothing explosive yet.
[16:28] Adam Ant: good, well I would have expected it by now :)
[16:28] Adam Ant: maybe it will blow over 
[16:29] Atticus: i hope so.
[16:29] Adam Ant: so how are you doing?
[16:29] Adam Ant: I'm in Pismo!! Woo!
[16:29] Atticus: can't believe silk was in on something like that... I don't get why he would put so much work into the shard then do something like that
[16:29] Atticus: and wth is pismo?
[16:29] Adam Ant: Pismo beach!!
[16:30] Adam Ant: my yearly trip?
[16:30] Adam Ant: you didn';t see my announcement in Staff?
[16:30] Atticus: I saw that, i've justn ever heard of pismo
[16:30] Adam Ant: I put you in charge of thre shard 
[16:30] Adam Ant: :P
[16:30] Atticus: LOL
[16:30] Adam Ant: di you watch Bugs Bunny as a kid?
[16:31] Atticus: little bit. I got some of the really really old bugs bunny shows on VHS, too.
[16:32] Adam Ant: well, when he pops up out of the ground and says "Eh, I should took that left at Albuquerque"
[16:32] Adam Ant: he's heading to Pismo!
[16:32] Atticus: ya
[16:32] Atticus: you waskaly wabbit :P
[16:32] Adam Ant: haha, yep
[16:32] Adam Ant: old Elmer ftw
[16:32] Atticus: good margaritas there?
[16:33] Adam Ant: lol, most of those cartoons aren't politically correct today
[16:33] Adam Ant: um.. dunno
[16:33] Adam Ant: I love margaritas tho
[16:33] Atticus: me too :P
[16:33] Atticus: on the rocks w/ salt :P
[16:33] Adam Ant: same!
[16:34] Atticus: hoozah!
[16:36] Atticus: welp, i'm gonna get ready for tonight
[16:36] Adam Ant: okay, have fun
[16:36] Atticus: I'm probably only  going to go out for a bit, then bring some folks back here. I'll keep an eye on the knitting circle.
[16:36] Adam Ant: thanks man
[16:36] Adam Ant: have a good one
[16:36] Atticus: you too ;)
[16:37] Atticus: Don't step on jelly fish.
[16:37] Atticus: and if you do... do NOT urinate on the burn :P
[16:37] Adam Ant: har
[16:37] Adam Ant: gin?
[16:37] Atticus: goes in your belly, not on jellyfish stings :P
[16:38] Adam Ant: ah .. ok
[16:38] Adam Ant: *notes*
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[17:29] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/540039/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/540039/gonew/1#UNREAD
[17:29] Atticus: i figure it has something to do with that file i told you about.
[17:30] Adam Ant: yep, we'll get it .. it's just hard for me to follow up here .. but I bet you're right
[17:31] Atticus: um, internet forums are more important than luxorious vacations in exotic locations. As your lawyer I advise you to stop relaxing and address this dire issue a.s.a.p.
[17:32] Adam Ant: hehe, ok... *checks email responses to my questions*
[17:32] Atticus: i'm kidding!
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Aug 07 13:24:09 2007
[13:24] Adam Ant: Ah, I may have fixed the boards :)
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[13:24] Adam Ant: well, found the fix .. not applied yet
[13:24] Adam Ant: I'll let you know when it';s been applied
[13:44] Adam Ant: okay, try now .. I think I may have fixed it
[14:42] Atticus: 
[14:45] Atticus: seems good.
[16:12] Adam Ant: nice :)
[16:12] Atticus: going to try to get moving on the revamp, just gotta find someone to make some images. You mind if i hold a public contest?
[16:12] Adam Ant: no sir .. sounds good!
[16:13] Adam Ant: also, get some pvp intro animations like you had fore the house maybe?
[16:14] Atticus: hmmm, gotta run something past you then...
[16:14] Atticus: let me get some links.
[16:14] Atticus: well, here, they're all in this post: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/539834#Post539834)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/539834#Post539834
[16:14] Atticus: if you look at example 2 in that post, that front page is actually made on an external site
[16:15] Atticus: then sort of linked through the forums.
[16:15] Atticus: I was hoping to do something like that as the front page, then make a "post island" that displays news 'topics' from the news forum, instead of posting the entire message through the portal page
[16:15] Atticus: like it is now.
[16:16] Atticus: i think in order to do that though, you're going to have to step in to edit some files.
[16:16] Atticus: which is explained in the "how to" link
[16:17] Atticus: are you still on vacation? if so then ignore all this. I have more stuff to look into anyways.
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[16:23] Adam Ant: yeah, I'm still on vacation, so I'll look at all that later
[16:24] Adam Ant: I'm assuming you are working *within* the BUU framework and not creating some orthogonal system, correct?
[16:24] Adam Ant: UBB
[16:26] Atticus: both, pretty much.
[16:27] Atticus: well, UBB and an external page, i mean.
[16:27] Atticus: basically, what I'm learning to do is display an external page THROUGH ubb.
[16:27] Adam Ant: okay, that's ok
[16:27] Atticus: leaving us all the options of UBB, and giving us the better display features of having an external "front page"
[16:28] Adam Ant: however I don't want to do in another way something that UBB can do directly .. know what I mean?
[16:29] Adam Ant: will you be able to include islands?
[16:29] Atticus: here, look at this.
[16:29] Atticus: (Link: http://www.fansfocus.com/football/premiership/-league.php)http://www.fansfocus.com/football/premiership/-league.php
[16:29] Atticus: that's UBB with a "page" displaying through it.
[16:30] Adam Ant: I'll look later, it's taking forever to load
[16:34] Adam Ant: servrer and message boards are fine atm?>
[16:34] Adam Ant: I can't seem to get yto anything ... heh
[16:35] Atticus: yup, right as rain.
[16:36] Adam Ant: cool cool
[17:00] Adam Ant: please lock that thread .. the codename one..
[17:01] Adam Ant: Do not allow any one in General
[17:01] Atticus: ?
[17:02] Adam Ant: any more on this topic in General
[17:02] Adam Ant: just move w/o a pointer
[17:03] Atticus: ok
[17:05] Adam Ant: I'm also PM'ing BRavado "Fuck you..."
[17:05] Adam Ant: He's very instulting to me and he pipes in again, I'd like you to just ban him
[17:05] Atticus: fuckin' a... i'm all for banning for staff complaints.
[17:05] Adam Ant: I don't deserver to be taking shit from anyone
[17:05] Atticus: true that
[17:06] Adam Ant: Well, after I tell him "FU" , watch to see if he reposts my PM or anything and be qiuick to act please :)
[17:06] Atticus: oh, i will :P
[17:06] Adam Ant: will you be available today to watch?
[17:07] Atticus: yup.
[17:07] Adam Ant: please do some diggings and see if that's naysayer
[17:07] Atticus: might run to the bank to cash the paycheck i just realized i forgot about
[17:07] Atticus: pretty sure naysayer is "no commonality"
[17:07] Atticus: which i banned yesterday for making some comments about yogi and gilah.
[17:07] Atticus: 24 hours
[17:08] Atticus: it's either naysayer or last place, both were banned for staff complaints.
[17:08] Adam Ant: good .. 
[17:08] Adam Ant: heh
[17:08] Adam Ant: glad you're around :)
[17:08] Atticus: glad to be around
[17:18] Adam Ant: Has all ofr brooks, silks, and quicksilvers Titles, and mod access been revoked?
[17:20] Atticus: yup
[17:21] Adam Ant: kk
[17:21] Atticus: erm... maybe not quicks mod access... let me check that
[17:22] Atticus: yup, all good.
[17:22] Adam Ant: kk, and all titles?
[17:24] Atticus: yup
[17:26] Adam Ant: I'm sure Bravado is naysayer .. he just annoys me like that
[17:27] Atticus: well, yogi is pretty sure commonality is nay.
[17:27] Atticus: i think he might be just because of the feel of the guy, but he doesn't seem educated enough to be nay.
[17:28] Adam Ant: well, Nay wasn't educated enough to be Nay ;)
[17:28] Atticus: Nays education is what bugged me the most. He knew some fancy words so he was looked at as an intelligent person, but he was just a jack-ass, and a moron
[17:29] Atticus: commonality has the same attitude as him, but somethings off.
[17:30] Atticus: I donno. I'm sure he's back, and he's either commonality or bravado. And if he is, he'll slip up eventually
[17:31] Adam Ant: well, maybe after I said: Fuck you asshole ;)
[17:31] Adam Ant: he'll want to post that, so be ready!
[17:31] Atticus: will do :P
[18:04] Adam Ant: do you know if Silks Castle is "the abby?"
[18:04] Atticus: No.
[18:04] Adam Ant: who owns the abby?
[18:04] Atticus: their guild was very group oriented in everything they did, so who owns what is pretty foggy to me.
[18:05] Atticus: I think he may have been the owner, though.
[18:05] Adam Ant: do you know where it is?
[18:05] Atticus: ya, ice island.
[18:05] Atticus: i can tele around and find the exact location if you want.
[18:06] Adam Ant: please
[18:11] Atticus: 4109 552 0
[18:12] Adam Ant: ty
[18:12] Atticus: yup
[18:12] Adam Ant: hmm, owner Rufus Redbrow
[18:13] Adam Ant: any ideas who that is?
[18:13] Atticus: no idea
[18:13] Atticus: could be a dummy account of silks, he had a lot.
[18:15] Adam Ant: well, all the BIG rares are here
[18:15] Atticus: no, they got a large w/ patio stocked to the rim with rares somewhere
[18:16] Adam Ant: well, this has atlease some biggies .. one of a kind
[18:16] Atticus: ya.
[18:16] Adam Ant: I just took ownership .. I hope they don't mind :p
[18:16] Atticus: did you decide what you're gonna do with them all, yet?
[18:16] Adam Ant: no
[18:17] Atticus: auction! Then we'll take one of their champ skull sets and host a public harrower afterwords!
[18:17] Adam Ant: I like the auction idea to suck gold from the economy
[18:27] Adam Ant: are you looking for the other rares stash?
[18:27] Atticus: i was, but no luck.
[18:27] Atticus: there was a castle that silk took me to once... he said he had a bunch of champ skulls there
[18:28] Adam Ant: kk, did pix post the accounts he banned anywhere?
[18:28] Atticus: he showed me it and friended me to it so i could get the skulls and spawn the harrower for event week if he wasn't around... but i can't remember where it is.
[18:28] Atticus: He didn't say exactly what accounts, he just said their names.
[18:28] Atticus: "quicksilvers, silks, etc."
[18:29] Adam Ant: kk
[18:29] Atticus: what I would do is: go into silks account and look through his personal runebooks.
[18:29] Atticus: or, i saw something about silk "making a tamer account for smerx" in that ss on the forums... maybe check what accounts are linked to smerx and look for one with a tamer and oodles and oodles of rares.
[18:30] Adam Ant: can you chase down some of these leads and see what you can find?
[18:30] Atticus: best i can do is ask around.
[18:31] Atticus: what's smerx' ICQ number?
[18:33] Atticus: hmm, as the account that owns this castle been accessed at all?
[18:33] Atticus: theres 1 rare i know of that's missing from here...
[18:34] Adam Ant: you mean the Abby?
[18:34] Adam Ant: or Silks?
[18:34] Atticus: abby
[18:34] Adam Ant: I just took ownership
[18:34] Adam Ant: probably clears accesses
[18:35] Adam Ant: 75997483 - smerx
[18:35] Atticus: i'd check accesses before you do that with any more, in case they're trying to clear stuff out if they come back.
[18:35] Atticus: there was a pure white shirt, same color as the fight brokers, that they kept at the abby
[18:35] Atticus: which seems to be gone now.
[18:35] Adam Ant: *nods*
[18:35] Adam Ant: I have it ... smerx gave it to me lastnight
[18:35] Atticus: ah
[18:36] Adam Ant: got it (and other stuff) from Joe's (?)
[18:37] Adam Ant: I need to be social.. 
Watch for Bravado, and see what houses you cna locate (and if pix banned the owner) .. I needto go be social before the wife kills me
[18:37] Adam Ant: :)
[18:37] Atticus: lol, i forgot you were on vacation
[18:37] Atticus: cya, have fun!
[18:37] Adam Ant: haha
[18:37] Adam Ant: me too!
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[19:51] Adam Ant: can you post and announce two new houses in the preview neighborhood?
[19:51] Adam Ant: small stone keep 
Dormian 
 
medium stone tower 
 Crazei 
 
New houses by Crazei and Dormian
[21:59] Atticus: sure, probably tomorrow though.
[22:00] Atticus: had a double today...
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[17:38] Atticus: I talked to american badash, silk, and smerx the other night to dig into the drama a little.
[17:38] Atticus: got a couple accounts login info, but the best thing i got from silk and badash is that the bulk of TGG's gold was gathered from champs and regular hunting
[17:39] Atticus: and that their script didn't flood much gold into the economy.
[17:39] Atticus: so, at least fixing the economic part of their screw up wont be too hard.
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[18:43] Adam Ant: yep, probably auctioning their booty will repair the damage for the most part
[20:07] Atticus: ya. I found another butt-load of rares in a tower i think belongs to them... it has a lot of (what i think are) decoration contest rares in it, like decorative armor and a scarecrow
[20:07] Atticus: and some other desirable stuff.
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[21:24] Atticus: ok. I've been on ICQ with a guy from UBB for a bit and i think i know everything i need to know to start getting the boards dressed up.
[21:25] Atticus: argh, keep forgetting you're on vacation, i'll icq you about this when you get back :P
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[21:08] Adam Ant: everything cool there?
[21:15] Adam Ant: you there?
[21:52] Atticus: not for long, what's up?
[22:07] Atticus: i'm getting off in a minute or 2, i got work in the morning.
[23:14] Adam Ant: I'v seen a lot of fuss in the BZ .. please point lily/yogi/pix at problem posters until I have a chance to get home and review what the problem is. 
We have a policy (in one of those agreements) when things get too hot or personal, you are supposed to step back and hand it off to another mod
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[12:05] Adam Ant: Hey, did you ever post that housing update yesterday?
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[15:21] Atticus: no, i forgot about it.
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[15:28] Adam Ant: okay, np
[15:28] Adam Ant: wanna do it now? 
[15:28] Atticus: just been busy with work... just got home from my 60 hours this week... ugh.
[15:28] Adam Ant: ick
[15:28] Adam Ant: no worries man
[15:28] Adam Ant: I can get it :)
[15:28] Atticus: sure, what were the houses again?
[15:28] Adam Ant: you go get some dinner 
[15:29] Atticus: I'm not moving from this seet for 48 hours.
[15:29] Atticus: all doors have been unlocked so the pizza man can come straight to me
[15:29] Adam Ant: ;p
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Aug 12 18:19:25 2007
[18:23] Atticus: one of the custom houses is missing a floor tile...
[18:24] Adam Ant: okay .. can you write me an SR and give me the house location and exact tile location please?
[18:24] Atticus: SR?
[18:24] Atticus: ah, script request
[18:24] Atticus: sure
[18:24] Atticus: theres a player who bought one, though... how do you want me to handle his house?
[18:25] Atticus: Should I add a tile for him, even though it will likely stay there after his house drops?
[18:26] Adam Ant: lets hold off osn that until I can look at it
[19:02] Adam Ant: ah, *has an idea*
[19:02] Adam Ant: I think I can make a one tile addon .. I'll add them to a housing 'patch' folder :)
[19:03] Atticus: so players would buy the house then buy the tile addon?
[19:03] Atticus: or you'd fix the house, and have the addon for us to fix ones that have already been bought?
[19:04] Adam Ant: nah, GM's will apply them .. but they will auto delete when the house deletes
[19:04] Adam Ant: yea
[19:04] Adam Ant: I'll fix the house
[19:07] Adam Ant: it's the fall-through on the secondfloor ?
[19:07] Atticus: yup.
[19:07] Adam Ant: kk
[19:07] Atticus: I think a wall was covering it up..
[19:07] Atticus: in fact, i should probably check the other houses to make sure they're in tact.
[19:09] Adam Ant: the house ID is HID4036F_final 
You can get that by doing a props on one of the deeds in the venbdors backpack
[19:09] Atticus: ok
[19:09] Adam Ant: from now on, when reporting a static house problem, give me the House ID
[19:09] Atticus: will do.
[19:15] Atticus: I'm not seeing "HID4036F_final anywhere in props...
[19:16] Adam Ant: what's the first thing you see in props?
[19:16] Atticus: MultiID: 5162 (0x142A)
[19:17] Adam Ant: okay, it was set to admin access, I'm changing that to Gm
[19:17] Atticus: ok
[19:17] Atticus: toast brads has a bad tile, too, just a tile by a wall that doesn't match the rest of the tiles in the room.
[19:33] Adam Ant: alright, come to me on TC
[19:35] Atticus: gotta log in
[19:35] Adam Ant: kk
[19:41] Adam Ant: okay, brief explanation...
[19:41] Adam Ant: the 1293 is the tileID
[19:41] Adam Ant: all patches will have this format 
patch_XXXAddonDeed
[19:42] Atticus: pl
[19:42] Atticus: ok*
[19:56] Atticus: want to pass me the ID for the addon again, right quick?
[19:57] Adam Ant: [add staticdeed HID4036F_final  <-- house 
 
[add patch_1293addonDeed  <-- patch
[20:54] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/542376/Main/45474/#Post542376)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/542376/Main/45474/#Post542376
[20:54] Atticus: that what you were lookin' for?
[20:54] Adam Ant: not exactly no, ;)
[20:55] Atticus: damnit :P
[20:55] Adam Ant: the document is to explain how to patch houses in general and has nothing to do with blah blah Wind Style house
[20:56] Adam Ant: A reader is going to say "I don't care about this house"
[20:56] Adam Ant: the point is to help GM/Devs understand the system for fixing any house glitch
[20:57] Adam Ant: you can use the case of HID4036F_final as an example, but it should not be the focus of the document
[20:57] Adam Ant: know what I mean?
[20:58] Atticus: sorta, ya
[20:59] Atticus: I'll just do it in 2 chapters... "For the Devs" and "For the GM"
[20:59] Adam Ant: You are writing a document that says  
Here is how you patch glitched houses... 
Here is the naming convemntiuon for patches 
Here is where patches are stored 
Tip, if you cannot place a tile directaly, you can place it at another location, and move it to the desired location ..  
Etc
[21:00] Atticus: ok
[21:00] Adam Ant: the whole Wind Style house is only a single instance of the greater problem and IT should not be the focus of the document
[21:00] Adam Ant: this document is NOT about Kalin's house.
[21:01] Adam Ant: Read another one or two documents in that forum ... 
[21:01] Adam Ant: you will see that we are speaking in general terms, and not about specific case
[21:01] Atticus: will do, but i got the gist of it
[21:01] Adam Ant: kk
[21:03] Atticus: i got work in the morning though, so i'll have to rewrite it tomorrow when i get home... i'll do that first thing.
[21:03] Adam Ant: okay, thanks :)
[21:04] Atticus: but, I have a post in the staff forum i think could help a bit. If you like the idea let me know and i'll construct it, but i'll need to know where i can.
[21:05] Adam Ant: the dev library is for developers only, so this post is target at developers, not a step by step for GMs
[21:05] Adam Ant: however that's not a bad thing to have .. just not in the developers library
[21:05] Atticus: i get it ;)
[21:05] Adam Ant: kk
[21:06] Atticus: was just looking at it from a more case specific point of view.
[21:06] Adam Ant: right
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Aug 13 15:34:28 2007
[15:34] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542606#Post542606)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542606#Post542606 [Offline Message (8/13/2007 [19:29])]
[15:34] Adam Ant: alright .. I've merged the 'tile patch' and went ahead and patched the demo home. If you could find that home owner that needed a patch, that would be good. 
I've also fixed the disappearing vendor problem (another house version update) [Offline Message (8/13/2007 [21:28])]
[15:36] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542633#Post542633)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542633#Post542633
[15:36] Atticus: and ok. I'll go patch him up right now.
[16:00] Atticus: 
 The addondeed should be named in conjunction with the ID of the tile being converted into an Addon. <-- that right?
[16:02] Adam Ant: I'm not sure what you are asking
[16:02] Atticus: naming convention for the tile patches.
[16:02] Adam Ant: then yes :)
[16:03] Atticus: hoozah, lucky guess ftw :P
[16:08] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542376#Post542376)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542376#Post542376
[16:10] Adam Ant: that's good thanks. 
On the other 'newbie' area .. I need to think about that before I reply
[17:03] Adam Ant: this just kind of makes my laugh 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542668#Post542668)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542668#Post542668
[17:06] Atticus: ... wow
[17:06] Adam Ant: lol
[17:06] Atticus: that's a lot of.... something...
[17:06] Adam Ant: he was probably surprised at our logging .. *flex*
[17:07] Atticus: ya, i'm surprised you guys don't get a lot more of those things.
[17:08] Adam Ant: well we do .. but we only act on the over-the-top ones
[17:08] Atticus: ah
[17:55] Atticus: is there anywhere I can build some things? I'd like to take a crack at building a sort of field battle arena that could be used for capture the flag, and other 'battle' event sort of things, maybe even the next last mortal standing.
[17:56] Adam Ant: yeah, anywhere on TC except green ascres
[17:57] Atticus: sweet. I'll post screenies when I'm done :P
[19:09] Adam Ant: you know anything about ebay?
[19:09] Atticus: not really, no.
[19:10] Atticus: why do you ask?
[19:10] Adam Ant: just wondering what that term is when someone waits til the last second to place their bid
[19:11] Atticus: sniping, i think.
[19:11] Adam Ant: *googles*
[19:12] Adam Ant: yep!
[19:12] Adam Ant: thanls
[19:12] Atticus: np
[19:27] Adam Ant: Okay, I'm posting on the auction of the TGG rares .. I've stated that any claims or rightful ownership, or arguments about the appropriatness of such an acution will be deleted (without warning)
[19:27] Adam Ant: don't edit the reply/thread .. just delete
[19:27] Atticus: ok
[19:27] Adam Ant: if the players have an issue with the system, they need to PM me
[19:27] Atticus: is the auction going to be over the boards?
[19:27] Adam Ant: please notify Yogi and Gilah 
[19:27] Adam Ant: Rares confiscated in recent bannings.. 
 
The loot collected from the recent bannings included several one-of-kind true rares, some of which are core to AI's history. These rares include: Adrigan's Staff, Jade's head, a broken ethereal disruptor, and a true white fancy shirt. 
 
(The bannings were due to certain individuals using AFK farming scripts. These scripts hurt the AI economy, so it makes sense to use the rares collected to pull gold back out of the economy.) 
 
We will be creating an automated auction system that auctions off all of these goods. We will also post on the boards when any of the big items will be auctioned off. The system will be comprised of a single NPC at WBB that takes you bids over some predetermined time period. At the expiration of the bidding process, the item will be placed into your bankbox.and an announcement placed on the towncrier. 
 
Each player that bids will need to have the gold in their bank. If the auctioneer accepts your bid, he will take the gold from your bank at that time. If another player out bids you, your bid will be refunded to your bankbox. [b][i]It will be your responsibility to monitor the auctioneer to see who the current high bidder is. [/b][/i]. Saying a keyword to the auctioneer will cause him to give the current status of the auction including the high bidders name and bid amount. 
 
At the conclusion of the auction, the NPC will delete the high bidders gold whereby removing it from the economy. 
 
If anyone has enhancements to this system, or sees a flaw in this system, please reply here. [b]However: any posts arguing the appropriateness of holding such an auction or claiming ownership of the items to be auctioned will need to be made directly to me in PM. Any such posts made here will summarily deleted.[/b] 
 
I'll post here when the first item goes live. 
 
Note: Sniping is a valid technique, so please plan accordingly 
 
[b]*Sniping[/b] [i]is the practice of bidding in the last few seconds of an auction in order to prevent other bidders from outbidding you. The truth is, if you really want an item, sniping will almost always allow you to be the highest bidder, assuming you bid high enough. Sellers usually like sniping; what's not to like about increasing the final price of an item? Many smart bidders, however, simply bid the maximum amount they are willing to spend on an item and don't worry about it. If they are outbid, that's okay, because they didn't feel the item was worth more than their bid. [/i] 

[19:30] Atticus: ok, so...
[19:30] Atticus: input: welcome
[19:30] Atticus: bitching and moaning: delete
[19:30] Adam Ant: yes
[19:30] Adam Ant: yep
[19:31] Atticus: got it...
[19:31] Adam Ant: let yogi and gilah know as well .. (in your off hours)
[19:31] Atticus: and when someone makes the inevitable "Fuck you moderators! You suck, quit deleting our posts!" thread, 24 hour ban?
[19:32] Adam Ant: delete it and may quote me from above .. if they continue, yeah, 24 hour ban
[19:32] Atticus: righto.
[19:32] Atticus: I'll talk to yogi now
[19:34] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542711#Post542711)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542711#Post542711
[19:34] Atticus: here goes :P
[19:35] Adam Ant: heh, yeah
[19:39] Atticus: did you see the tower with all the rares?
[19:39] Atticus: kind of by stonegate?
[19:41] Atticus: had some decorative armor, dyed bone armor?
[19:41] Adam Ant: have we taken ownership of it? banned the owner?
[19:42] Atticus: I don't know, that's sort of what i'm asking.
[19:42] Atticus: I know TGG affiliates own the tower, as i sort of helped them organize it a long while back.
[19:42] Atticus: but i can't remember exactly who owned what.
[19:43] Adam Ant: well, we're not going after anyone not targetd by pixie originally
[19:43] Adam Ant: we are pretty strict aboiut who we included in the dragnet (had nothing to do with what they had)
[19:43] Adam Ant: had only to do with shared accounts of *known* cjeaters
[19:44] Atticus: right, i didn't know if they got banned and some of the rares got missed.
[19:44] Atticus: wasn't suggesting to ban them based on what they had/who they know ;)
[19:44] Adam Ant: if the house does not now belong to Adam Ant, then they were not targeted
[19:44] Atticus: ok, i'll check it and make sure then.
[19:45] Adam Ant: kk
[19:45] Atticus: quick suggestion, though... when it's all over, i'd let everyone know how much gold was deleted from all the accounts
[19:45] Atticus: as well as how much gold was sunk.
[19:45] Adam Ant: sure
[19:45] Atticus: maybe even some of the smaller rares, like the dozens of potted trees i'm sure they had tucked away somewhere
[19:46] Atticus: things like that.
[19:46] Adam Ant: I may give you the job of logging all the loot and roughly ordering it in high to low value
[19:46] Atticus: might be able to do that.
[19:46] Adam Ant: I'll let you know when
[19:48] Atticus: I'd rather host that orc event in the event forum though 
[19:48] Atticus: :P
[19:51] Adam Ant: ;p
[20:02] Adam Ant: alright, I'm hgeading home .. see you later
[20:02] Atticus: righto
[20:02] Atticus: drive safe
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Aug 14 15:46:41 2007
[15:46] Atticus: delete rocks post again?
[15:47] Atticus: He's obviously on the verge of wigging out over moderation, so i thought I'd ask.
[15:47] Adam Ant: yers please, and I'll PM him
[17:28] Adam Ant: keep an eye on cascade[kv] .. they guy is demaning answers from me and has been rather insulting.
[17:28] Adam Ant: here is our conversation
[17:28] Atticus: cascade is a prick, to put it bluntly.
[17:29] Atticus: A while back, when i was a mod, i sent him a ToU warning.
[17:29] Atticus: His reply was something to the extent of: "Psh, I don't give a fuck. This shard sucks, so does the staff. I'm getting deployed next month, so i don't give a crap if i get banned."
[17:29] Atticus: that's pretty close to what he said, actually.
[17:30] Atticus: and heres his latest post: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542948#Post542948)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542948#Post542948
[17:30] Adam Ant: did you see our conversation?
[17:30] Atticus: nope
[17:37] Adam Ant: I just moved it to BZ .. any more like it, delete or move to BZ .. but it's no longer appropriate for GD
[18:10] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542965#Post542965)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=542965#Post542965
[18:16] Adam Ant: I replied
[18:17] Adam Ant: do you know where the Gaurdians of Vestland township is?
[18:17] Atticus: nope, why?
[18:18] Atticus: ... want me to host an event there??  :P
[18:18] Adam Ant: they say there is no nearby healer .. can you please contact Grog 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=sendprivate&User=7613
)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=sendprivate&User=7613 
 
and find out where it is and evaluate the situation
[18:18] Atticus: sure thing
[18:18] Adam Ant: ty
[19:00] Adam Ant: okay, lay low on the BZ threads for a bit .. 
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[19:00] Adam Ant: no more locking :P
[19:00] Adam Ant: lets let them fume for a bit .. 
[19:00] Adam Ant: will do them good
[19:04] Atticus: only locked the last one because banner came in bitching about my moding again.
[19:04] Atticus: his complaint: I didn't give enough info
[19:04] Atticus: His complaint against me as a mod in the past: i gave too much info
[19:04] Adam Ant: yep, he just PM'ed me.. 
[19:05] Atticus: some of these people are genuinely insane, i swear it.
[19:05] Adam Ant: You need to (and it is best to), get gilah or yogi or someone other than your self to lock threads ythat trash you
[19:05] Adam Ant: see how that works?
[19:05] Adam Ant: that way it soulnds like we're all on the same page
[19:06] Atticus: ya, unified front.
[19:06] Adam Ant: so for now, see if you can get yogi and or gilah (both hopefully) to loct threads that attack you (and visa versa)
[19:06] Atticus: I'll ask gilah. Most mods don't like doing anything in bz.
[19:07] Adam Ant: yeah .. but attacking staff *is* the excepotion
[19:07] Atticus: yup, i know.
[19:08] Atticus: that's why they're all jumping on my ass :P
[19:08] Adam Ant: hehe
[19:08] Atticus: and my whole situation is probably what makes mods affraid of touching bz
[19:09] Atticus: things will calm down soon enough, anyways.
[19:10] Adam Ant: yep yep..
[19:11] Adam Ant: keep up the good work!
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Aug 15 19:12:26 2007
[19:12] Adam Ant: Are you posting as Kadul in response to Atticus posts?
[19:12] Atticus: no, why?
[19:13] Adam Ant: well, pix things you stirring players up (again) ... 
[19:13] Atticus: I have in the past, but not while on staff i dont think.
[19:13] Atticus: ah, yes and no.
[19:14] Atticus: I banned no commonality again this morning for whining about how you guys handled his complaint.
[19:14] Atticus: And that caused the usuall "i hate you atti" rants... but gilah fired me from moding, so that wont be a problem any more.
[19:14] Adam Ant: she did?
[19:15] Atticus: ... you didn't know?
[19:15] Adam Ant: nope .. I've been away all day, just walked in
[19:15] Atticus: ok. well, ya.
[19:15] Adam Ant: anyway, just lay low for a while and let things settle
[19:15] Atticus: eh, actually, i think i'm done all together.
[19:16] Adam Ant: I've got a few things to catch up on, then I'm off to dinner .. and the next few days are busy ..
[19:16] Atticus: gonna move on, do more things with my real life.
[19:16] Adam Ant: So for now, PM Gilah and Yogi with popinters to post that you think need action .. let them handle them for a bit
[19:16] Adam Ant: no, .. :(
[19:16] Atticus: i posted my last quest in the event forum
[19:17] Atticus: it's not done, but it's almost there.
[19:17] Atticus: If you want i can give someone the PW to my AIM ad. lists.
[19:18] Adam Ant: bleh .. can you hold off on doing anything for a day .. 
[19:18] Atticus: i tried PMing you the list, but seems you can't copy them from aim.
[19:18] Adam Ant: I'd like to talk to everyone to findout what happened
[19:18] Atticus: and i dont think they're stored on the computer anywhere.
[19:18] Atticus: it's not the firing.
[19:18] Atticus: i just really don't like the community on this shard, and nothing seems to make it better.
[19:19] Atticus: i like helping you guys out, a lot, but it feels like donating to spoiled rich kids sometimes.
[19:19] Adam Ant: well, you've been great man
[19:20] Adam Ant: I wish you wouldn't quit 
[19:20] Adam Ant: but I understand how you must feel
[19:20] Atticus: well, if things ever get better i'll come back, but i think you guys are stuck with who you have now.
[19:21] Adam Ant: okay.
[19:21] Adam Ant: :\
[19:21] Adam Ant: I guess you don't want to sleep on it? ;p
[19:23] Atticus: I'd just wake up and read "I hate this guy." or "this shard sucks" or "what a trammy i hate you" and have to sleep on it again if i did.
[19:25] Adam Ant: Alright ... do you want to post a goodbye in staff?
[19:25] Atticus: i did already.
[19:25] Adam Ant: heh, I'm sorry man
[19:25] Atticus: want me to drop my privs?
[19:25] Atticus: erm, accesses
[19:25] Adam Ant: I really liked what you did and were trying to do
[19:25] Atticus: what ever they're called
[19:26] Adam Ant: yes please .. I'll get you game acct, and you do the board?
[19:26] Atticus: sure
[19:26] Atticus: StaffAtticus
[19:26] Atticus: sauerge
[19:26] Adam Ant: What's sauerge?
[19:28] Atticus: password
[19:29] Adam Ant: ah, no .. I can ban it without logging in
[19:29] Adam Ant: You're welcome back man any time
[19:32] Adam Ant: I just updated the Atticus board account .. was that the only one with special access?
[19:33] Atticus: no, felix too.
[19:33] Atticus: Seer Felix
[19:33] Atticus: which reminds me... that guy you wanted me to talk to about the healer.
[19:34] Atticus: he said he had a healer within 8 screens of the township. That seemed pretty close to me, so i was waiting till you came around.
[19:34] Atticus: Thanks staff. Our Cord. are roughly 134o 54'N 130o 13'E (B) 
  
 Ther are no healers within 8 screens from us. Could you place one near us, but not on top :). There's a fair piece of wooded realestate SW of us that might be suitable. Let us know, thanks N-D/ Gaurdians of Vestland
[19:34] Atticus: also, since I was maintained it, you might want to hide the calendar event forum.
[19:34] Atticus: It'll look bad with few and far between posts in there.
[19:36] Adam Ant:  Okay, Atticus has been returned to user status, and seer felix banned
[19:36] Atticus: ok
[19:37] Adam Ant: hmm, .. nah .. lets leave it
[19:37] Atticus: ?
[19:37] Adam Ant: you may want to come back in a quiet, under the table role :)
[19:37] Atticus: ?
[19:37] Adam Ant: the calendar forum
[19:37] Atticus: you lost me.
[19:37] Atticus: ah
[19:37] Adam Ant: you asked if we should hide the calendar forum
[19:38] Atticus: ya, i got ya now.
[19:38] Atticus: and ya, maybe. Just let me know when things tone down and everyone stops acting like such turds.
[19:39] Adam Ant: will do
[19:39] Adam Ant: <3
[19:39] Atticus: later boss, thanks again for letting me stick around ;)
[19:39] Adam Ant: my pleasure
[19:41] Adam Ant: this may cheer you up... 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/~news/forum_videos/Random_Videos/AngelIsland.swf)http://www.game-master.net/~news/forum_videos/Random_Videos/AngelIsland.swf
[19:42] Atticus: gar, she made me bald :P
[19:42] Atticus: that thing was good though ;)
[19:42] Adam Ant: she was always fun to have around .. she took the pressure off staff ;p
[19:43] Atticus: yup, and now she's banned :P
[19:43] Adam Ant: no.. she just pmed me
[19:43] Adam Ant: wanted the link to the video
[19:43] Atticus: ah, as "tra la la di da"?
[19:44] Adam Ant: *pastes* 
 
started by tra la la di da   

[19:44] Adam Ant: sound right?
[19:44] Atticus: ya, weird.
[19:44] Atticus: there was a post in warnings saying she was banned a while back.
[19:48] Adam Ant: maybe the messageboard upgrade unbanned her *shrugs*
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[20:10] Atticus: is felix showing as online right now?
[20:10] Atticus: I'm getting the "banned" window when i try to look at the boards
[20:11] Adam Ant: as atticus?
[20:11] Adam Ant: or feelix?
[20:11] Atticus: well, i can't get to the login screen even.
[20:12] Atticus: so i dont know
[20:12] Adam Ant: try closing IE .. it probably cached your felix credential
[20:12] Adam Ant: just double checked .. not banned
[20:13] Atticus: that worked :P
[20:13] Adam Ant: :)
[20:13] Adam Ant: well, I'm off to my dads .. talk to you later
[20:14] Atticus: later ;)
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[09:43] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Thu Aug 16 09:43:12 2007.
[16:38] Atticus: Howdy. Could you make sure nobody discusses my 'alter ego' in the staff forum?
[16:38] Adam Ant: Felix?
[16:38] Atticus: I'm still not comfortable with burly being around, and don't want another incriminating screenshot floating around
[16:39] Atticus: no, kadull.
[16:40] Adam Ant: kk, I think the only place we discussed that was Senior staff. 

[16:40] Atticus: ok, thanks.
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[19:02] Adam Ant: do you have My Name is jonas ICQ?
[19:03] Atticus: i think so, but i cant remember what his screen name is now.
[19:03] Adam Ant: ;p
[19:03] Adam Ant: alright
[19:03] Atticus: you know any of his alts names?
[19:03] Adam Ant: no
[19:04] Adam Ant: found it in his profile ..
[19:04] Adam Ant: thanks
[19:17] Atticus: you know, he'd be a good candidate for admin. He's good about scouting who to "punish" and people don't seem to respond to him at all.
[19:18] Adam Ant: maybe .. I'm chasing down a problem he had
[19:19] Atticus: wasnt with his mortal event robe, was it?
[19:19] Adam Ant: no sir 
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Aug 24 16:40:01 2007
[16:40] Atticus: Heyo. You about?
[16:40] Adam Ant: yes sir
[16:40] Adam Ant: what's up?
[16:40] Atticus: not much. how are you?
[16:40] Adam Ant: good .. just had lunch with Cassandra
[16:40] Adam Ant: remember him?
[16:41] Atticus: recently resigned cassandra?
[16:41] Adam Ant: yes
[16:41] Atticus: that was a "him"?
[16:42] Adam Ant: yes .. I could tell because of the goatee ;p
[16:42] Atticus: name always threw me off.
[16:43] Adam Ant: yeah, can't trust names .. nice guy tho
[16:43] Atticus: awesome ;)
[16:43] Adam Ant: HE wants to be a seer ;p
[16:43] Atticus: ahh, cool.
[16:43] Adam Ant: I told him I'm burned out on seers atm 
[16:43] Adam Ant: :P
[16:43] Atticus: make sure the community doesn't run him off :P
[16:43] Adam Ant: yep., thats what I told him
[16:44] Adam Ant: I think the problem for you was manning the boards and the game
[16:44] Adam Ant: I think seers should maybe limit their exposure to the game
[16:44] Atticus: mmm, to be honest my problem was more you guys than the community. The community i can handle, but theres a lot of inconsistency with you guys
[16:45] Atticus: hard to explain, but when gilah "relieved me of my duties" it was just mind boggling and the decission was pretty easy.
[16:46] Adam Ant: yes, she really didn't have the right to do that
[16:46] Adam Ant: but by the time I heard about it, it was too late
[16:46] Adam Ant: and you were feeling pretty beat down
[16:46] Adam Ant: I don't blame you btw
[16:46] Adam Ant: it was pretty messed up
[16:47] Atticus: well, i dont blame her really either.
[16:47] Atticus: it's a lot of work to do what i was trying to do (get people to stop abusing each other and staff), and she was most likely going to end up having to put in a lot of effort to help with it.
[16:48] Atticus: and she seems like a pretty busy gal as it is ;)
[16:48] Adam Ant: yep .. that may be part of it
[16:49] Atticus: what sucks is i WANT to be a seer and have for a long time and was pretty thrilled that you were gonna let me. But like i said, i want people have fun and a lot of the kids here arn't capable of having fun... they're assholes.
[16:50] Adam Ant: well I fully expect you to come back
[16:50] Adam Ant: :P
[16:50] Atticus: fun for them is thinking up ways to make people miserable. Which is ok from a gameplay/griefing point, i think, but theres a difference between a griefer and a genuine bad personality/attitude
[16:50] Adam Ant: I think you should come back as a seer
[16:51] Adam Ant: and leave the modding to ypgi
[16:51] Adam Ant: yogi
[16:51] Atticus: hmm...
[16:52] Atticus: if i were to do that i'd want to ban all my forum accounts. Kadull causes problems, and i can't seem to contain myself when i post as him, as theres nothing for him to protect. Atticus was "invented" to be a persona to help the shard and avoid drama, so there's no point in having him around.
[16:53] Atticus: felix account would have to stay, obviously, but i'm pretty good about keeping cool when theres something at risk...
[16:54] Atticus: so, i'll think about it.
[16:55] Adam Ant: :)
[16:55] Adam Ant: okay
[16:55] Atticus: oh, the reason I icqed you is the "guild forum thread." Someone PMed me today asking to move his event announcement to the event forum and it got me thinking.
[16:56] Atticus: it would probably be a good idea to have someone else sponsor the guild forum thread since i can't do any of that any more.
[16:56] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/521664#Post521664)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/521664#Post521664
[16:58] Adam Ant: how about if we reinstate your board abilities for things like this .. but no modding?
[17:02] Atticus: thinking ;)
[17:03] Atticus: ok... let's leave this stuff to felix.
[17:04] Atticus: i'd kind of like "atticus" to just vanish. There's no point in him being around any more.
[17:06] Adam Ant: so .. felix is board abmin and seer and does not mod.. correct?
[17:06] Atticus: ya.
[17:07] Atticus: i think "seer" kind of nixes his ability to mod... seers HAVE to be liked.
[17:07] Adam Ant: alright..
[17:09] Adam Ant: LOL! 

[17:09] Adam Ant: Aldaen Ah, but why play only to lose?  
Kadullthateth iseth a questioneth to asketh yourselfeth. *chuckle*  

[17:09] Adam Ant: haha
[17:10] Atticus: yes, i'm like William Shakespeare
[17:10] Adam Ant: well Aldaen is a bit over the top with that stuff, so that was funny
[17:11] Adam Ant: okay, seer felix is back online and with admin privs
[17:12] Atticus: ok
[17:12] Atticus: his game accounts banned too i thin
[17:12] Atticus: think
[17:13] Adam Ant: sec
[17:14] Adam Ant: there you go
[17:14] Adam Ant: welcome back :)
[17:14] Atticus: thanks
[17:14] Atticus: 
[17:14] Atticus: muahaha!
[17:16] Adam Ant: !
[17:19] Atticus: ok, well, just let me know when you approve some events.
[17:19] Atticus: or decline
[17:19] Adam Ant: *nods*
[17:19] Adam Ant: I may be slow on that, got my hands full atm
[17:24] Atticus: hmm, ok. Maybe i'll try to put together a ctf arena for the automated events then, if you still wanted to add those.
[17:25] Adam Ant: yes .. that would be good .. you can help me with the area and logic .. I'll write the code
[18:20] Adam Ant: you want to make the new housing post?
[18:22] Atticus: I'll write it, you post it.
[18:23] Atticus: don't want people putting 2 and 2 together just yet.
[18:23] Atticus: well, ever.
[18:23] Adam Ant: kk, use the pics from the aproved housing thread, use the designers name, and use the house description on the deeds on the vendors
[18:24] Atticus: which ones?
[18:24] Adam Ant: come see!
[18:24] Adam Ant: [bc Just enter the gate in The Saw Horse in Brit and head SE 

[18:26] Atticus: the last 2?
[18:27] Atticus: or 3? cant remember if the little marble one has already been announced
[18:27] Adam Ant: all 4 there on that side
[18:28] Atticus: jades is new too?
[18:29] Adam Ant: all 4 :P
[18:39] Atticus: We have 4 new houses on display in Britains Preview neighborhood.  
  
 To get to Brittan's preview neighborhood, just take the gate from The Saw Horse in Brittan 
  
 A 2 story stone and plaster house by Jade: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5483_1247.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5483_1247.jpg[/img] 
  
 A small 2 story wind style house by Kalin: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5436_1277.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5436_1277.jpg[/img] 
  
 A small stone keep by Dormian: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5452_1114.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5452_1114.jpg[/img] 
  
 A medium stone tower by Crazei: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5452_1114.jpg[/img])http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5452_1114.jpg[/img]
[18:40] Adam Ant: nope nope
[18:40] Atticus: ?
[18:40] Adam Ant: You need to go SE when you get out of the gate .. THOSE 4 newe houses
[18:40] Adam Ant: it's a new part of the neighborhood
[18:42] Atticus: hmmm.... grrr
[18:43] Atticus: might want to add some dirt paths to the neighboorhood
[18:45] Adam Ant: can you figure out how to do nice ones on TC, then come here and fix us up?
[18:45] Atticus: i can give it a whirl.
[18:45] Atticus: probably not tonight though.
[18:45] Adam Ant: :)
[18:46] Adam Ant: sure, no hurry
[18:46] Adam Ant: ronk had some on TC
[18:50] Atticus: We have 4 new houses on display in Britains Preview neighborhood.  
  
 To get to Brittan's preview neighborhood, just take the gate from The Saw Horse in Brittan 
  
 A stone crypt of the Undead by Amira: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5620_1275.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5620_1275.jpg[/img] 
  
 A Medium 3-story Stone Mansion by Shaelani: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5768_1086.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5768_1086.jpg[/img] 
  
 A small wooden house with red floor tiles by Jade: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5904_1248.jpg[/img]
)http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5904_1248.jpg[/img] 
  
 A small marble house by Jade: 
 [img](Link: http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5861_1212.jpg[/img])http://www.game-master.net/~jade/images/housing/5861_1212.jpg[/img]
[18:51] Adam Ant: nice .. ty
[18:51] Atticus: yup, np
[19:09] Adam Ant: this is pretty funny .. you should watch it :-) 
(Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjYYFOGE3k
)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdjYYFOGE3k 
 

[19:13] Atticus: ha! "Finally!"
[19:19] Atticus: that was good :P
[19:19] Atticus: where'd you find that?
[19:19] Atticus: er, how?
[19:21] Adam Ant: my son pointed me to it
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Aug 25 19:27:41 2007
[19:27] Atticus: hey, can I broker a duel between 2 players on felix?
[19:28] Atticus: Hold the 2 participants money and give it to the winner?
[19:29] Atticus: actually, nm... i dont like the idea, now that i think of it :P Carry on :P
[19:30] Adam Ant: (Link: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/FlanneryFlynn/haxlolknoob.jpg)http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/FlanneryFlynn/haxlolknoob.jpg
[19:30] Atticus: HA!!
[19:31] Adam Ant: Flannery posted that here..
[19:31] Adam Ant: lol @ flannery's pic .. but read the first couple posts ;p 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/545886/gonew/1#UNREAD
)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/545886/gonew/1#UNREAD 

[19:32] Atticus: ugh
[19:32] Adam Ant: ?
[19:33] Atticus: gonna hear comments like that for a looooong time :P
[19:33] Adam Ant: oh, about the scripting?
[19:33] Atticus: ya
[19:34] Adam Ant: nag .. we're dropping the hammer on it .. we have a solution
[19:34] Atticus: what's that?
[19:35] Adam Ant: an RTT for peacers (or any other skill that is getting scripted.) 
the difference is that this RTT 
1. doesn't block you from continuing the current fight 
2. shuts down the skill in the near future 
3. the gump can be moved (and doesn't block the screen)
[19:36] Adam Ant: this is however top secret .. so don't even share with other staff
[19:37] Atticus: Seer events would make people happier :P
[19:38] Adam Ant: where's the list of events? I'll pick one
[19:39] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/543172#Post543172)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/543172#Post543172
[19:39] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520
[19:39] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/540466#Post540466)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/540466#Post540466
[19:39] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/532795#Post532795)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/532795#Post532795
[19:39] Atticus: theres 8-10 for ya to choose from :P
[19:40] Atticus: I'd like to get some practice in with raid/spawn quests though, to work up to Arogoth's reign... if you approve it.
[19:40] Atticus: oh, this one too: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/521887#Post521887)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/521887#Post521887)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/521887#Post521887
[19:41] Atticus: I'd like to do those on a smaller scale, too. Random announcements that there's cow tipping and gambling at west brit... 2 players go up against each other, i take bets from other players (the bets would be made between the players, i'd just hold the gold and pay it out)
[19:52] Atticus: armorax IP (as naysayer): 24.231.217.248  No commonality IP (in game, where he can't use a proxy): 24.231.219.211
[20:00] Adam Ant: what are you saying?
[20:00] Atticus: no commonality = naysayer
[20:00] Atticus: he just doesn't have a static IP.
[20:01] Atticus: just letting you know :P
[20:04] Adam Ant: kk
[20:42] Adam Ant: I just sent you echo's log .. have a look
[20:42] Adam Ant: (cooking dinner)
[20:43] Atticus: sent it over what?
[20:43] Adam Ant: bleh
[20:43] Adam Ant: wrong icq
[20:43] Adam Ant: nm !
[20:43] Adam Ant: say nothing :p
[20:43] Atticus: nothing
[21:10] Adam Ant: oh, lol .. jade just wanted to see how report worked
[21:11] Atticus: ah, ok.
[21:11] Atticus: i figured he told on me for impersonating you again :P
[21:11] Atticus: "I'm getting tired of this, echo! Meet me in jail asap."
[21:11] Adam Ant: ah .. ok
[21:12] Atticus: "haha, made ya [go"
[21:12] Atticus: ahhhh, i crack myself up :P
[21:12] Atticus: anywho, i think i'm gonna go out.
[21:13] Adam Ant: sec..
[21:13] Adam Ant: keep this to your self...
[21:13] Adam Ant: okay?
[21:13] Atticus: what?
[21:13] Adam Ant: Burly B (6:57 PM) :  
Adam, if you're around, Counselor Echo has an issue.  He believes that Felix is abusing his powers. 
Burly B (6:57 PM) :  
We are both on our counselors, at Oc'. 
Adam Ant (7:11 PM) :  
what is he doing? 
Burly B (7:12 PM) :  
I'm not sure, I'm hearing this second hand. 
Adam Ant (7:12 PM) :  
shoot ..  
Burly B (7:12 PM) :  
Echo says that Felix is impersonating you and Jade somehow.  I'm not sure, that's all he said. 
 

[21:13] Adam Ant: No more joking .. people don't get it and it could get out of hand
[21:14] Atticus: ah, that's just burly being vindictive.
[21:14] Atticus: but ok ;)
[21:15] Atticus: it could get out of hand... especially if you do end up having to talk to him :P
[21:15] Adam Ant: okay you can go out now :P
[21:16] Atticus: wait, can i do it to burly once? >:P
[21:16] Atticus: ... kidding :P
[21:16] Atticus: i'm off ;) cya later.
[21:16] Adam Ant: bye!
[21:31] Atticus: ok, anything else for tonight?
[21:31] Adam Ant: nope! go have fun :)
[21:32] Atticus: righto ;)
[21:32] Atticus: later boss ;) sorry for the prank gone wrong :P
[21:34] Adam Ant: that's ok
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Aug 26 17:05:02 2007
[17:05] Atticus: you remember that guy that asked about the healer around his guilds township?
[17:05] Adam Ant: yes
[17:05] Atticus: ok, he PMed me again and i went looking at it
[17:06] Atticus: i cant remember why i didn't before... but ya, the healer is pretty far.
[17:07] Adam Ant: okay, you there now?
[17:07] Atticus: i dont know how you normally handle this sort of thing, though.
[17:07] Atticus: ya
[17:07] Adam Ant: okay, I'll come train ya
[17:07] Atticus: woof
[17:19] Atticus: mind if i announce lennies tourney
[17:19] Atticus: ?
[17:20] Adam Ant: sure .. but remember to close the announcemnt with something like: 
[bc Disclaimer: this is a player sponsored tourney
[17:20] Adam Ant: well, spelled correctally :P
[17:20] Atticus: righto
[17:20] Adam Ant: you need to be very careful announcing player events for the reason they may flake, of fail to pay, or PK the attendees
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[19:13] Atticus: Heyo adam ;) When you get a chance could you explain to me how i set a spawner and add nav star to it?
[20:00] Adam Ant: yeah, that's a longer discussion than I have time for atm .. 
[20:00] Adam Ant: make sure any testing you do tho is always on TC
[20:02] Atticus: ok, could you give me the gist of it? Is it even something I can do via seer commands?
[20:03] Adam Ant: maybe later tonight .. trying to head ou
[20:03] Adam Ant: *out
[20:03] Atticus: ok
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Aug 27 21:25:42 2007
[21:25] Adam Ant: so...
[21:25] Atticus: heyo ;)
[21:26] Adam Ant: I recieve [reports once a day .. lily is supposed to be helping me review them, but I'm not sure she looks unless I say something to hger
[21:26] Adam Ant: would you be willing to take on another task?
[21:26] Atticus: hmm
[21:26] Atticus: i'd rather stay away from policing players.
[21:27] Adam Ant: you get anywhere from 1-3 reports a day (in the morning), it only takes mayve 2-3 minutes to read through them
[21:27] Atticus: our standards seem different on it and I get pretty frustrated over it.
[21:27] Adam Ant: well, here...
[21:27] Adam Ant: ok
[21:28] Atticus: use me as a seer! I got loads of ideas :P
[21:28] Atticus: and I'm a super fast learner...
[21:28] Adam Ant: you are a seer .. 
[21:29] Adam Ant: but I can't get to review/planning because I'm busy reading Reports! 
[21:29] Adam Ant: :P
[21:31] Atticus: you said yourself it only takes 9 minutes a day :P
[21:31] Adam Ant: right, and I'm spending probably 6-8 hours a day on the sard as it is
[21:32] Adam Ant: sorry, *grumpy*
[21:32] Atticus: ah
[21:32] Atticus: ok... if i do this it would be best to setup a GM char for me, or make sure i'm not the one to dish out the punishments
[21:33] Atticus: seer punishing people = bad things
[21:33] Adam Ant: no you don't need to enforce .. I'll do that .. I just need some one to prefilter them .. there qre only 1 if 50 that are actionable
[21:35] Atticus: ok... send them to AtticusNEW@gmail.com
[21:38] Adam Ant: kk, thanks .. just tell me if one is over the top .. I don't usually do something if someone says 'nigger' once, or faggot once .. but if they are flatout calling some one it over and over and well, it's over the top, or especially nasty, I want you to tell me so I can take action
[21:38] Adam Ant: there is a forum where you post them as well so there is a record
[21:38] Atticus: only post the punishable ones?
[21:39] Adam Ant: ye
[21:39] Adam Ant: yes
[21:39] Atticus: and that's where i'll get frustrated :P
[21:39] Atticus: racism drives me nuts
[21:39] Adam Ant: yep .. me too
[21:39] Adam Ant: but we can't be over zealous .. 
[21:40] Atticus: Why not? People who call each other "niggers and whores" and things like that are non-interesting people that will only damage the shard and reputation.
[21:40] Atticus: Imagine what goes through someones head when they [report someone for calling them a nigger, then they see them again.
[21:41] Adam Ant: like I said .. if someone says nigger, no, if someone is calling someone one yes, if someone calls someone a nigga no
[21:41] Adam Ant: get it?
[21:41] Adam Ant: it's not black and white
[21:41] Adam Ant: lol, no pun intended :P
[21:42] Atticus: ok
[21:42] Atticus: well, i'll read and post
[21:47] Adam Ant: okay, you're in .. expect the first spirit at midnight .. err, I mean report at 8am pac
[21:47] Atticus: hahaha
[21:47] Atticus: thanks
[21:47] Atticus: :P
[21:48] Atticus: ok, so navstar. Quick yes or no... can i set locations for spawn to travel to as a seer?
[21:48] Adam Ant: I think so, yes.. but you need to drop beacons, and you need to know how they work...
[21:49] Atticus: yea, i've been looking at them, can't figure it out
[21:49] Adam Ant: there is a document in ..? the developer library I believe, or maybe archive that explains it
[21:49] Adam Ant: it's a bit complicated
[21:49] Adam Ant: not the best interface
[21:49] Atticus: hmm
[21:49] Atticus: and i can set the destination for anywhere? or only towns?
[21:50] Adam Ant: only towns (one of the things I don't like about it)
[21:50] Adam Ant: however
[21:50] Atticus: what i want to do is sort of 'anchor' crits, so they wont follow players past point x
[21:50] Adam Ant: you can have many waypoints on the way to town making the creatures go all over
[21:51] Adam Ant: nope, that's a coding thing
[21:51] Atticus: ya, figured waypoints had something to do with it.
[21:51] Atticus: don't know what to target with them though.
[21:51] Adam Ant: well, no .. logical waypoints
[21:52] Adam Ant: not spawner waypoints .. those are something different
[21:52] Atticus: oh
[21:52] Adam Ant: if you use navstar, creatures will return to their home ,, but not as long as they are chasing someone
[21:52] Atticus: ok
[21:53] Atticus: see, i want something more like a spawning bass protecting her eggs :P
[21:53] Atticus: er, his eggs, i think?
[21:53] Atticus: chase off and return
[21:54] Atticus: but i can't, so i'll improvise
[21:58] Atticus: ok, i'm off to bed
[21:58] Atticus: later boss
[22:27] Adam Ant: night!
[22:27] Adam Ant: 8 minutes left in the auction .. high bid is 2.1 million :)
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[16:04] Atticus: was the final bid really 3.4 mil for that staff?
[16:06] Adam Ant: maybe 3.6?
[16:06] Adam Ant: yeah
[16:06] Atticus: wowza
[16:07] Atticus: I gotta find out where tb hunts :P that guy has way too much gold
[16:07] Adam Ant: it wasn't tb was it?
[16:07] Adam Ant: it was Bon Jovi
[16:07] Atticus: yup
[16:08] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=546588#Post546588)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=546588#Post546588
[16:08] Atticus: that's toast brad, apparently
[16:09] Atticus: i've never even heard of that one.
[16:12] Atticus: hey, did you read that "arogoth's reign" event proposal at all?
[16:13] Atticus: That's one i'd really like to host one of these days... so i'd like to at least get feedback on it so i can work on it in between events.
[16:13] Atticus: smaller events, that is.
[16:17] Adam Ant: no, not yet .. maybe later this week or weekend .. I'm getting backed up at work with all the shard work I've been doing lately and need to address that a bit. 
 
Send me a link and I'll print it out
[16:18] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/543172#Post543172)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/543172#Post543172
[16:18] Atticus: i actually sent the basic idea of the event to gilah about 2 years ago, and saved all the brainstorming, and got to work on really writing out the storyline/events a couple months ago.
[16:19] Atticus: when it's done, you'd basically be able to write a movie from it :P
[16:20] Atticus: then maybe a prequel ;)
[16:23] Adam Ant: we;ll see ;p
[16:35] Atticus: if by "we'll see" you mean "yes, definately someday... good work, finish it up so you can host it after i train you" Then i'm a happy camper.
[16:36] Atticus: :P
[16:36] Adam Ant: sorry .. just distracted atm.
[16:36] Adam Ant: I really need to do some work!!
[16:49] Adam Ant: who ever said beauty queens are dumb? 
(Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&mode=related&search=
)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww&mode=related&search= 

[16:49] Atticus: i just saw that, and holy shit.
[16:49] Atticus: i mean, like, um, h-o-l-y shit
[16:51] Atticus: A lot of those girls practice different responses for possible questions, I think she was just so nervous that her brain malfunctioned and merged a bunch of them together when she got asked a question she wasn't prepared for.
[16:51] Adam Ant: yea, wow
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[10:43] Adam Ant: We'retraining Yogi as a seer as well and I've asked him to assist you on your upcoming events.. 
I've not seen anything proposed by him, so you'll need to share your knowledge with him.
[10:44] Adam Ant: I'd like him to be you assistant on the next event .. so you both should be fully intune with the event and in agreement
[11:50] Adam Ant: Hey, what happened to my game-master.net introduction? it's gone and now the news covers the whole front page?
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[15:44] Atticus: that has been gone since you changed forums, lol.
[15:45] Atticus: i actually asked YOU about it like a month or 2 ago :P
[15:45] Atticus: and yogi as a seer is a great idea, we'll be a good team.
[15:45] Atticus: him and i have worked together brainstorming various things for the shard, including [NEW], for years.
[15:59] Atticus: aand, if you write a description I can add it very easily.
[15:59] Adam Ant: a description of what?
[15:59] Atticus: [11:50] Adam Ant: Hey, what happened to my game-master.net introduction? it's gone and now the news covers the whole front page?
[16:00] Adam Ant: ah .. 
[16:00] Atticus: it's been gone ever since you updated the forums
[16:00] Adam Ant: I'll needs to search it out
[19:59] Adam Ant: can you please notify Yogi/Gilag that I banned No Commonality today. 
I had no reason other than he pissed me off (again) and I've been TRTYING to ignore the fact that he is Naysayer. 
I'm fucking sick of that guy btw. .. if he would just stfu, it'd be ok .. but he just can't . 
 

[20:00] Atticus: did you see my comments to him in suggestions?
[20:00] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/546559#Post546559)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/546559#Post546559
[20:01] Atticus: skim through there.
[20:01] Adam Ant: kk, while I do .. please : Please watch the boards and let Yogi know if there are any repercussions from my action. have Yogi squash  them
[20:06] Atticus: "
 Speaking of tools, how ya been Naysayer?
 " haha!
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Aug 31 10:37:33 2007
[10:37] Adam Ant: hey, can you get me yogi's ICQ and update thje staff table with that info please ..  
Also, I just perma banned _Blaze_ for admitting he is Lobo (who was benned fpor posting extreemly gross graphics) and challanging us to ban him ahain
[10:38] Adam Ant: Please make sure thee proper post gets made in the proper forum and notify lily and yogi to keep an eye out for new account creations as _Blaze_ says he knows how to create new accounts.
[13:58] Atticus: I've known that was him for a long time, didn't realise he wasn't on the "second chance" list.
[14:01] Adam Ant: well, everyone is on the second chance list as long as they don't say stuff like: 
Go a head and ban me, I was banned before and I know hoe to get more accounts 
[14:01] Adam Ant: ;p
[14:01] Atticus: ok, well naysayer was doing that yesterday...
[14:01] Atticus: so you should ban him again :P
[14:04] Atticus: "However, the way this thread quickly derailed and turned into everything but the topic at hand is why I rarely get involved in discussions and instead make 'state of the union' type statements." So let me mod "The Atticus Way" and ban the people who keep doing it :P
[14:50] Atticus: or not :P
[14:50] Atticus: in other news, yogi and I were hoping to host that orc event this sunday, would that be alright with you?
[14:50] Adam Ant: no, I don't want to run around banning alt board acco8unts .. that will be worse than ignoiring them
[14:51] Adam Ant: well, I'd need to full write up
[14:52] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/538520#Post538520
[14:52] Atticus: #538520 - 07/31/07 07:04 PM  :P
[14:55] Adam Ant: I'll print it and have a look..
[14:56] Adam Ant: will you be testing the 'uses human weapon'? 
This is a question because: 
1. I don't know how far zen got with it 
2. orcs don't hold actual weapons like say a brigand would .. the weapon is part of their art work
[14:56] Atticus: I havn't tested it, so the plan is to leave it "false"
[14:57] Adam Ant: will there be a player actor?
[14:57] Atticus: I chose that area because it's easy to close it off so the spawn doesn't get led away like neira did.
[14:57] Atticus: and there's a barricade setup so they can't take the spawn to the guard zone.
[14:57] Adam Ant: will there be a player actor?
[14:58] Atticus: well, Yogi wants to use a player actor to pull people from busy locations instead of using [bc
[14:58] Atticus: which I think might actually be a good idea. It will help us to keep it small, which would be a good thing, i think, since we're both new.
[14:58] Adam Ant: I mean some one vlurnable
[14:58] Atticus: nope
[14:59] Atticus: Ig'Fel is an npc.
[14:59] Atticus: Not planning on doing altered chars 'till you train me on it. I think you said there were some issues with that.
[14:59] Atticus: insta death...
[15:01] Atticus: It's all really simple, and setup to be altered durring the event.
[15:01] Adam Ant: what is the goal .. just to kill the captain?
[15:01] Adam Ant: and the reward is gold?
[15:01] Atticus: yup
[15:02] Adam Ant: what is the raid?
[15:02] Atticus: just for RP purpose.
[15:02] Atticus: the players are to kill the captain before the raid...
[15:02] Adam Ant: yes, but the spawn does not use navstar or any movement systems, correct?
[15:02] Atticus: nope.
[15:03] Adam Ant: okay, seems simple enough .. you and yogi shoud do a dry run and come up with a splashgold amount per 10 players
[15:03] Adam Ant: like 30K pr 10 players
[15:03] Adam Ant: or some number
[15:03] Atticus: spawners, wall to prevent spawn from being led to guards, and a couple announcements and/or a characters going to pull players from busy spots
[15:03] Atticus: we were planning on about 5k per player.
[15:03] Atticus: since it's a really easy spawn.
[15:03] Adam Ant: kk
[15:04] Adam Ant: hint: you can use OFF spawners by simply hitting the respawn all button .. it's a nice way to augment a spawn without having to turn them on/off
[15:05] Atticus: ya, that looks ugly though.
[15:05] Atticus: they all spawn at once in a big cluster.
[15:05] Atticus: Might be good for when Ig'Fel is released, though... just to add excitement.
[15:05] Adam Ant: to 'augment' 
[15:10] Atticus: ok.
[15:10] Atticus: so everything looks good then?
[15:10] Adam Ant: yeah, go ahead
[15:10] Atticus: ok
[15:10] Atticus: will probably be tomorrow or sunday (before or after server wars)
[15:11] Adam Ant: please run through it with Yogi so you are both on the same page
[15:11] Atticus: we already have ;)
[15:11] Adam Ant: on TC? a complete walkthrough?
[15:11] Atticus: but i'll do it again. We plan to have burly try to break it beforehand too, but I doubt he'll be able to...
[15:14] Atticus: one thing i'd like to know before hand is how to turn guards iff in a zone, though.
[15:15] Atticus: We have the barricade, but if by some unforeseeable way the players breach the wall and get the spawn past it, i'd like to have a backup plan.
[15:15] Adam Ant: [setguarded false 
 
[checkguarded
[15:16] Atticus: seers don't have access to that command, apparently.
[15:17] Adam Ant: I'll have a look
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[18:04] Atticus: did the shard go down for an update? and if so, did you get the [setguarded false added for seers?
[18:06] Adam Ant: yes and no .. !!
[18:06] Adam Ant: Write me an SR please :P
[19:07] Adam Ant: okay, I'm changing it now, but...
[19:07] Adam Ant: you DO have access to  
[ToggleGuarded 
and 
[CheckGuarded
[19:07] Adam Ant: you just need to be a bit more careful with ToggleGuarded
[19:55] Atticus: why's that?
[19:56] Atticus: just gotta be sure to check first?
[19:57] Adam Ant: tep
[19:57] Adam Ant: yep
[19:57] Adam Ant: and check it after ;p
[19:59] Atticus: ok. and while I have you here... A player, Mr Evil, is going to host an event soon and wanted some res gates/spawn/no count zone.
[20:00] Atticus: He requested it via PM on the boards and wanted the event to take place in his house, and because of the 'no count' zone i suggested the event castle, so no problems come from overlapping zones.
[20:00] Atticus: that all sound alright?
[20:07] Adam Ant: yes that's what the EC is fore
[20:08] Adam Ant: we don't like to do anything with player houses
[20:08] Adam Ant: (and we don't)
[20:08] Atticus: ok, great ;)
[20:08] Atticus: I'll let you know when he hosts it.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Sep 04 14:41:10 2007
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[14:41] Atticus: (Link: http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg)http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg
[14:41] Atticus: A player made that, I think it's pretty sweet and would look really nice on our boards.
[14:41] Atticus: If you want, I can do some re-adjusting and make some minor changes to add that as a header on the boards
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[18:03] Adam Ant: sure .. looks good
[18:03] Atticus: ok, i was just looking at your current header and the code is confusing me a bit.
[18:04] Atticus: what i'm planning to do is: take the vote links and put them in a post in the BSI forum, and add a link to the left nav bars (makes more sense that way, since when people look for stuff, they look in left nav bar out of habit)
[18:04] Atticus: but it wouldn't make much sense to add the google search bar there..
[18:05] Atticus: so, the problem is the google search bar. Not sure what to do with that.
[18:07] Adam Ant: well, that is an ad revenu tool .. don't mess with it
[18:07] Adam Ant: I also don't think I want the vote and paypal/donate links moved .. they need to be front and center for revenu purposes
[18:08] Atticus: what do you mean?
[18:08] Adam Ant: stick them in a post, and they are as good as forgotton
[18:08] Atticus: I think they'll be easier to find.
[18:09] Atticus: think about it, every site you go to, anything you need to find you either look in the nav bar on the left, or the header bar.
[18:09] Adam Ant: people don't often go .. Hmm, I think I need to donate .. maybe I'll do a search to see oif there's a way ;p
[18:09] Atticus: hmmm, what if we moved it to the footer?
[18:11] Adam Ant: well, lets do a baby step to start until I have time to work with you on these more important moves .. 
For now, add it to the header on the front page (which I think is simply the forum intro for the news forum.)
[18:11] Adam Ant: Lets start there .. then we can decide later where to put vote buttons and donate links
[18:12] Atticus: hmm, don't think you can add images to the forum inserts
[18:13] Adam Ant: sure you can .. it's HTML
[18:13] Adam Ant: all those paupal buttons are HTML
[18:13] Adam Ant: *paypal
[18:18] Atticus: yup, that's not a regular insert, though.
[18:18] Atticus: maybe i'm doing something wrong, i'll go to ubb dev. But, either way, theres already an insert in the news forum and that's not displaying.
[18:19] Adam Ant: well, stay away from all my paypal ones .. they are encrypted URLs and retuire loving care :P
[18:20] Adam Ant: practice on the News header .. it's HTML .. not UBB
[18:20] Atticus: this is what i'm inserting:
[18:20] Atticus:  
  
  
    
    
  
 Banner
 
 [18:20] Atticus: as a trial... we'll have to host the image somewhere secure.
[19:01] Atticus: wow, i are dumb.
[19:02] Atticus: so... so... dumb. This could have been so easy, but no...
[19:02] Atticus: what do you think of this: and bare with me... :P
[19:03] Atticus: bear too.
[19:03] Atticus: so, posts support HTML... and you can display different posts through the portal page without all the avatars and post count and all that jazz...
[19:05] Atticus: We could just setup a hidden forum that has 1 post, which has a couple screenies, maybe a slide show, a good description of the shard and it's philosophy(s)
[19:05] Atticus: then, instead of having the news forum display on the portal page, and constantly having news up there that's several months old
[19:06] Atticus: we setup a post island that displays different news TOPICS where the current "forum" island is.
[19:06] Atticus: could all be setup within 5 minutes (aside from writing the description and all that), would look great, if done right, and will be super easy to maintain.
[19:07] Atticus: plus make the forums/portal page a lot more informative.
[19:07] Atticus: and usefull
[19:12] Atticus: Could possibly even use azariels ad. (but i'd probably crop some of his pics, and spruse it up)
[19:21] Atticus: spruce :P
[19:34] Adam Ant: yep .. make is so!
[19:35] Atticus: ya? sweet
[19:35] Atticus: please come to a decission about the banner/vote links and all that.
[19:35] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg
)http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg 
 
One Az did
[19:35] Atticus: I think it will make it look 1000% better
[19:35] Atticus: who did that?
[19:35] Adam Ant: Akarius
[19:36] Adam Ant: you playing? 
[19:36] Atticus: not atm, why?
[19:36] Adam Ant: just wondering if there was some lag
[19:36] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548009/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548009/gonew/1#UNREAD
[19:37] Atticus: probably just nay being his usual twat self.
[19:37] Atticus: which banner do you like more?
[19:38] Atticus: a: (Link: http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg)(Link: http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg)http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg or b: (Link: http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg)(Link: http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg)http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg
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[20:36] Adam Ant: they both good .. run um both .. one on the front page, one in OT..
[20:36] Atticus: OT?
[20:36] Adam Ant: off topic
[20:39] Atticus: ok, i'll figure something out.. you have google adds in the inserts in OT and GD
[20:39] Adam Ant: hey, look what I found!
[20:39] Adam Ant: Welcome to Angel Island 
Angel Island (or OUO as we like to call it) is basically a Retro Ultima Online Shard circa Publish 15 with enhancements. More important than the era though, is the philosophy behind the design. The OUO team has set out to build a solid and robust incarnation of UO that embodies all the things we loved about the early UO. 
Our Angel Island shard runs on a dedicated dual processor server with virtually unlimited bandwidth and a 100 mbps connection. The diesel generator backed power system ensures you will have 24/7 access to your UO account! 
I hope you all enjoy Our UO. we've had a lot of fun putting it together. 
--Adam Ant 

[20:40] Atticus: hmm
[20:40] Atticus: care to expand on either topics there for it?
[20:40] Atticus: maybe 1 full paragraph for the shard philosophy and another for the server specs/staff?
[20:41] Adam Ant: not atm .. maybe later
[21:35] Atticus: Angel Island is a free Ultima Online shard designed by Adam Ant and a team of professional software developers with years of coding experience. We have worked hard to keep players of all kinds happy by inventing and implementing unique features for all different play-styles, in order to create a diverse community and make the shard a fun place for everyone, while maintaining the historic systems and core principles that made Ultima Online the game we all loved. 
 For those who have played UO before, AI uses a Felucca-only rule-set, meaning that you have to be wary outside of town guard zones as danger can often lurk just around the corner; whether it be from a roleplaying orc wanting ‘tribuut’, a pirate seeking plunder or a run-of-the-mill ‘peekay’ wanting to ‘pwn’ you! One of the only things that can beat the rush of managing to escape being killed by another player for the first time is finding them at a later date and returning the favor by besting them in combat! 
 
[21:35] Atticus: how's that?
[21:36] Atticus: it's cropped between things i posted and azariels ad.
[21:36] Adam Ant: It's a longer intro, different than the 'sound' byte I had ... they have different uses.
[21:37] Atticus: that's the idea
[21:38] Adam Ant: right.. but I still want my 'tiny' sound byte as the first thing people see as it's easy to digest .. 
[21:38] Atticus: People spend a lot of time in these shards, they don't mind reading an extra paragraph or 2 before they spend 3 years playing
[21:38] Adam Ant: maybe put a more button that links to that longer one
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[14:44] Atticus: hey, could you host those 2 banners on G-M.NET?
[15:04] Adam Ant: yes
[15:05] Adam Ant: have you any access to storage on gmn?
[15:05] Atticus: thanks, let me know when they're up. Ak needs his off the site he hosted it he says
[15:05] Atticus: nope
[15:05] Adam Ant: give me both inks please
[15:05] Atticus: (Link: http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg)http://i16.tinypic.com/65zt5kg.jpg
[15:05] Atticus: (Link: http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg)http://www.applied-storage.com/aibanner.jpg
[15:08] Adam Ant: okay, they are both stored in /banners
[15:09] Atticus: gonna need links
[15:10] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/images/banners/aibanner.jpg
)http://www.game-master.net/images/banners/aibanner.jpg 
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/images/banners/65zt5kg.jpg)http://www.game-master.net/images/banners/65zt5kg.jpg
[15:10] Atticus: thanka thanka ;)
[15:10] Adam Ant: np
[15:11] Atticus: hopefully have everything setup today.
[15:24] Atticus: made atti an admin for a min while i check a couple things for the front page.
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[17:45] Atticus: ok. (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php
[17:45] Atticus: to get a better idea of what that will look like on the portal page, click "edit" and "preview"
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[12:53] Atticus: did you get that link yesterday?
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[14:16] Adam Ant: What link would that be?
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[19:50] Adam Ant: so you don't like the slogan I've been using for yease .. my trademark? 
"What Ultima Online was meant to be"
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[16:07] Adam Ant: Do you remember hennarr's elemental event when he dropped the 'broken ethereal disruptor' ?
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[17:49] Atticus: i dont think i was here for that one.
[17:51] Atticus: what'd you think of the front page stuff?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Sep 08 14:34:54 2007
[14:34] Adam Ant: let me know when you're around so we can talk about the advertising ideas you had for the shard as well and the page reorganizartion. [Offline Message (9/8/2007 [18:47])]
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[14:35] Atticus:  let me know when you're around so we can talk about the advertising ideas you had for the shard as well and the page reorganizartion.:::: i'm on
[14:58] Atticus: also, why did you send arkanon to me?
[15:17] Adam Ant: well, as a seer you are a senior staffer and I wanted you to help[ decide if he should be a counselor
[15:18] Atticus: ah, ok.
[15:18] Atticus: hey, theres a player here who lost his tent and can't place a house.
[15:18] Adam Ant: :\
[15:18] Atticus: with how houses refresh here, he's kind of screwed
[15:18] Adam Ant: lol, these guys kill me 
[15:18] Atticus: and I don't believe seers have the command to find it
[15:18] Adam Ant: kk, brt
[15:18] Adam Ant: how many online?
[15:19] Atticus: 67
[15:19] Adam Ant: :)
[15:19] Atticus: i was gonna give the orc raid a shot pert soon
[15:19] Adam Ant: Numbers are creeping up
[15:19] Atticus: yup, factions got announced
[15:20] Adam Ant: who lost the tent?
[15:20] Atticus: druag Necropha
[15:20] Atticus: Necrophage*
[15:33] Atticus: ok, so arkanon.
[15:33] Atticus: I'll think about him, but i passed him up as a [companion] due to complaints from another [companion] that i trust
[15:33] Atticus: so it's unlikely.
[15:34] Atticus: as for the portal intro, what did you want to discuss?
[15:35] Adam Ant: if you had come up with a plan 
[15:36] Atticus: yup, plan is:
[15:36] Atticus: what i'll do (have done, to test) is: setup a forum that will hold the banner/intro and ONLY the banner/intro
[15:36] Atticus: and display that through the portal page
[15:37] Adam Ant: okay, that way I can preview it first?
[15:37] Atticus: then, instead of displaying 2month of news articles on the front page, i'll remove the "forum" island from the front page (hide it) and replace it with a news post island, that will display the topics of recent news articles
[15:37] Atticus: you can preview it now, it's in the staff forum
[15:38] Atticus: look at the second example in the post. Click the "edit" button under it, as though you're editing the post. Then click the "preview" button, and you'll get an idea of what it will look like on the portal page
[15:39] Atticus: ignore the fact that the info under the banner is dropping to 2 lines for now, I know how to fix that easily and will before i post it
[15:54] Atticus: go ahead and do it?
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[16:09] Adam Ant: Replace this: "hope you all enjoy Our UO. we've had a lot of fun putting it together. 
" with my slogan
[16:09] Atticus: which is?
[16:09] Atticus: Life is only as sweet as death is painfull?
[16:09] Adam Ant: What Ultima Online was meant to be
[16:10] Adam Ant: no, that's my personal saying .. however, you can put that under my character if you're still adding that
[16:10] Atticus: no, second one!
[16:11] Adam Ant: :P
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[16:29] Atticus: oh, might have jumped the gun a little.
[16:29] Atticus: you want to host those pics on g-m.net?
[16:29] Adam Ant: yes
[16:30] Atticus: don't forget the 2 spacers seen above and below the text under the banner
[16:30] Adam Ant: no no .. I'll let you manage the upload ;p
[16:30] Adam Ant: I'll give you an images directory to upload too
[16:31] Atticus: i have no idea how to do that, but i'll give it a shot
[16:31] Adam Ant: it's easy
[16:31] Adam Ant: sec .. I'll create it
[16:39] Adam Ant: okay, open a Windows Explorer
[16:39] Adam Ant: (nit IE)
[16:39] Adam Ant: *not
[16:39] Atticus: ok
[16:39] Adam Ant: you see the address bar?
[16:39] Atticus: ya
[16:39] Adam Ant: type in 
ftp.game-master.net 

[16:40] Adam Ant: you should get a prompt for username and password
[16:40] Atticus: yup
[16:40] Adam Ant: (I'll give that to you)
[16:40] Adam Ant: username: playguide 
password: _pg2007
[16:40] Adam Ant: please write those down ;p
[16:40] Atticus: i think... i already did
[16:40] Atticus: now that i think about it, lol
[16:41] Adam Ant: well, I changed the pass
[16:41] Adam Ant: do you see the folders?
[16:41] Atticus: yup
[16:41] Adam Ant: double click images
[16:41] Adam Ant: that's where you will plop the imnages you want
[16:41] Atticus: ok
[16:41] Adam Ant: you can just drag-drop
[16:41] Adam Ant: when you want to access them...
[16:42] Atticus: i can drag drop them from my computer?
[16:43] Atticus: erm, files on my computer? so that means i'll have to take SS's of the images, crop them, save them, and drag them to there?
[16:43] Adam Ant: no you're lose quality that way
[16:43] Adam Ant: rightclick the images and tell IE to SaveAs
[16:44] Atticus: ahh, ok
[16:44] Adam Ant: and just keep whatever foprmat they are
[16:44] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=549103#Post549103)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=549103#Post549103
[16:44] Adam Ant: like if they are gif, leave tham as gif, if they are jpg, leave tham as that
[16:44] Adam Ant: conversions loose quality
[16:44] Atticus: ok
[16:45] Adam Ant: when you go to link these images, you will use this format (please write it down)
[16:45] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/~playguide/images/pop.gif)http://www.game-master.net/~playguide/images/pop.gif
[16:45] Adam Ant: where pop.gif would be replaced by your image name
[16:45] Atticus: only 1 image per file?
[16:45] Adam Ant: yes, that's how the world works ;p
[16:46] Atticus: <-- not two brite :P
[16:46] Adam Ant: and that's how you are doing it now .. right. the banner is 'one file'
[16:46] Adam Ant: *too bright :P
[16:46] Adam Ant: hehe
[16:46] Atticus: I new zat
[16:47] Atticus: ... cuda :P
[16:48] Adam Ant: ?
[16:48] Atticus: I mess with cuda like that :P
[16:48] Atticus: He's a spelling nazi, so any time i see him in a thread I go a little mad with the poor spelling, and he corrects it every time :P
[16:49] Atticus: something seems to be wrong with the news island, though.
[16:50] Atticus: might have to go a different route with that.
[16:54] Atticus: everyone seems to like the front page, though. That's good, at least.
[16:54] Adam Ant: well, please visit the UBBCentral forums and ask your questions .. I don't want to hack anything .. 
[16:55] Atticus: already did.
[16:55] Adam Ant: there are a lot of features (and I paid good money for the software), so I want to be sure we do it right
[16:55] Atticus: might have to look into this "rss feed" stuff, seems like that might come in handy.
[16:55] Atticus: if it does what i think it does, i might be able insert the news topics right into the "front page"
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[18:01] Atticus: mind if i clear the cache on the boards real quick? could anything bad come from that?(Link: ftp://ftp.game-master.net/images/Performing.jpg)
[18:02] Adam Ant: well, it will slow page-loads and image loads for a while
[18:02] Atticus: that was the suggestion for getting the news island to work.
[18:02] Atticus: on ubb central
[18:02] Adam Ant: kk
[18:02] Adam Ant: kk
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[00:54] Adam Ant: Front page looks sweet!
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[00:54] Adam Ant: :D
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Sep 09 09:11:50 2007
[09:11] Adam Ant: I would like the links put back in the upper right .. you know with general descussion etc ... (the way it was) [Offline Message (9/9/2007 [7:13])]
[09:12] Atticus: ok... i mentioned all that in the post though.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Sep 09 11:16:29 2007
[11:16] Adam Ant: that you would eliminate them?
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[11:47] Adam Ant: :) it's back!!
[11:47] Adam Ant: *pne clicks to GD*
[11:47] Adam Ant: *one
[14:37] Atticus: :P
[15:19] Atticus: ok, got the news island figured out. It wont display topics that are older than 30 days, though.
[15:25] Atticus: also, i'd like to get that orc event hosted pretty soon. I know you said you'd like for yogi to assist, and I'd like him to too, but his schedule doesn't allow him a lot of time...
[15:25] Atticus: having a newborn baby and all.
[15:34] Adam Ant: ah, okay .. well you make the call .. I just wanted to make sure you were including him (when you could)
[15:34] Adam Ant: but with our numbers creeping up, the event would be good.
[15:34] Atticus: been trying to for a couple weeks.
[15:34] Atticus: his play time is late hours for me, since he's in canada, and i normally wake up around 4:00-4:30am for work...
[15:35] Adam Ant: kk, well you make the call here 
[15:35] Adam Ant: I'm good with it
[15:35] Atticus: ok
[15:35] Atticus: gonna remedy my hangover then get to it :P
[15:35] Adam Ant: hehe
[16:25] Atticus: how many hits do you normally give a crit for an event?
[16:26] Atticus: range would be ok, too.
[16:45] Adam Ant: how tough? how many players? how long do you want him to last?
[16:45] Atticus: i want it to be easy, but not too easy. and i'll probably start at around 8:00 central
[16:45] Adam Ant: You can alwaus do  
[get hits 
on a creature that you think would be a good benchmark creature
[16:46] Adam Ant: so give me a creature? Harrower, or bone knight?
[16:46] Adam Ant: Daemon or White Wyrm?
[16:46] Atticus: how many hits does the harrower have?
[16:46] Adam Ant: like 30K I believe
[16:46] Atticus: see, i want it to be easy, but i don't want players to go "wtf, that was stupid"
[16:47] Atticus: my original plan was to do 3500 hits, but that seems too low after burly tested it.
[16:47] Adam Ant: give me a creature you would like your creature to be on par with
[16:47] Atticus: hmm, how 'bout half as bad as the harrower?
[16:48] Adam Ant: I don't know 
[16:48] Adam Ant: that's pretty damn strong, and impossible unlless you expect lots of pets
[16:48] Adam Ant: there needs to be a special group to take down a harrower class creature
[16:49] Adam Ant: (too strong is a worse bomb than too weak BTW)
[16:49] Atticus: ya, hmm. I'll just up it a little then. maybe to 5000
[16:49] Adam Ant: well, stop tossing out numbers!
[16:49] Adam Ant: what CREATURE do you want your creature to be on par with
[16:49] Atticus: regular champ
[16:54] Adam Ant: go spawn a ancient lich and then  
[get STR 
[get INT 
[get DEX 
[get HITS 
[get MANA 
[get STAM
[16:54] Atticus: well, I'll just stick with what i have planned/tested right now and learn from the experience
[16:54] Adam Ant: that sould give you a good idea
[16:54] Adam Ant: I need to reboot ... brb
[16:54] Atticus: ok
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[19:56] Atticus: setting up the finishing touches/boss now
[19:57] Adam Ant: doublke check the values after you set them because some things like HP are effected by str and raw STR
[19:58] Atticus: str and raw str?
[19:59] Adam Ant: for each of the core stats there are: 
str and rawstr 
int and rawint 
dex and rawdex
[19:59] Atticus: what's the difference?
[19:59] Adam Ant: but know what they all mean now is not important
[20:00] Adam Ant: just make sure you set the base stats first STR, INT, DEX, then follow with HP, MANA Stam
[20:00] Atticus: and they should match?
[20:00] Atticus: dex/stam str/hits, etc?
[20:02] Adam Ant: they can, but do not have to...
[20:02] Adam Ant: it's a complicated subject .. just check them after you set them and alert me if you see anything unexpected and we can take it from there
[20:02] Atticus: ok, and will buffing his str effect his min/max damage?
[20:03] Adam Ant: I just wanted you to be aware (for example) 
a creature with 100 str and you set hits to 1000 will not work
[20:03] Adam Ant: ye
[20:05] Atticus: this is all stuff i'd like to get pretty good at so i can get into more extensive events like "Arogoth's Reign" and other similar multi chapter events I'm brainstorming.
[20:06] Atticus: crit altering, as well as staff altering to play the crit.
[20:06] Adam Ant: right .. my suggestion is get to know it before getting ready for an event so that you know the effects .. hit str, etc
[20:07] Atticus: right, doing that now.
[20:07] Adam Ant: nothing worse than creating an event and hacing your creature one-hit-killing the players
[20:07] Adam Ant: *having
[20:07] Atticus: i'm just gonna model him after rikktor... he'll still be really easy.
[20:07] Atticus: since he wont have any special moves
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[21:00] Atticus: what's "hitsmaxseed"?
[21:34] Atticus: getting ready to start...
[21:50] Atticus: starting....
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Sep 10 15:13:53 2007
[15:53] Atticus: can i get an eta on when test will be back up?
[18:22] Adam Ant: it's up now!
[18:23] Atticus: thanks ;)
[18:23] Atticus: while i got you, i'm testing and don't see any major flaws that would come from this on a short scale, but, anything wrong with adding spawners with very high count and homeranges?
[18:24] Atticus: IE: 1 spawner in the middle of the desert NE of britain that would spawn crits for the entire area?
[18:26] Adam Ant: define very high count and home range
[18:26] Atticus: homerange: 80
[18:26] Atticus: count: 100-150
[18:27] Adam Ant: yeah, should be ok
[18:27] Atticus: awesome... i'll have the next event posted later :P
[18:28] Adam Ant: okay :)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Sep 11 17:39:41 2007
[17:39] Adam Ant: let me know when you're around and have a few minutes to make an update [Offline Message (9/11/2007 [18:55])]
[17:39] Atticus: i'm around and have a few minutes to make an update
[17:40] Adam Ant: okay .. I wanted you to ban Weaver's account and make sure his player accounts Erlien has no special access or title
[17:40] Adam Ant: He's not in trouble or anything .. he's just dropped of the face of the earth ;p
[17:41] Atticus: well, that's a downer
[17:41] Atticus: but, ok.
[17:42] Adam Ant: well, if he ever comes back .. he gets all his old access back .. it's just been months and months
[17:52] Atticus: all done
[17:52] Adam Ant: thanks man :)
[17:53] Atticus: no problemo
[17:58] Atticus: oh, is yogi gonna be getting seer status on prod?
[17:58] Atticus: You said something a while ago about wanting him to help with events, and he was made a seer on test... but nothing on prod yet
[17:58] Adam Ant: I think we should wait untill he designs an event
[17:59] Adam Ant: you've done a couple .. I want to see what he can do
[18:00] Atticus: ok.
[18:00] Atticus: and for my final .... in the "promo events" list i mention a custom built area for the cock fighting event...
[18:01] Atticus: did you have any objection to that? I'd like to know because the next "schedule" event i plan to host will be a cock fight...
[18:01] Atticus: 'scheduled*"
[18:01] Adam Ant: a lot a variables there ... I'd need to see a proposal
[18:02] Atticus: hmm, ok.
[18:02] Atticus: I'll build a test one in tc... is the black abyss OK?
[18:02] Atticus: around where jail and the dungeons are..
[18:03] Adam Ant: will it be permanent, or reausable?
[18:03] Atticus: reusable being dif. than permanent how?
[18:05] Adam Ant: you are using an unused dungeon, right?
[18:05] Atticus: No, going to build a house pretty much.
[18:05] Atticus: it will function as a basement, more of less.
[18:05] Atticus: picture an underground cock fighting ring in someones basement in mexico... that's what i plan to put together
[18:06] Adam Ant: you will use the custom housing tool?
[18:06] Atticus: and/or the box
[18:08] Adam Ant: my point being .. lag .. if you hjust build a static structure from tiles, that will be laggy .. if I can convert it to a Static House, it will not be laggy
[18:09] Atticus: oh, ok... well ya, it wont change, you could make it static
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[23:02] Adam Ant: hey, can you look around and see if you can see my statement to the players on multi-clienting .. where I talk about LOS etc? 
[23:02] Adam Ant: I'm addressing the thread in staff and need that post
[23:03] Atticus: where'd all the posts in the bsi forum go?
[23:03] Adam Ant: I don't know!
[23:03] Adam Ant: that's where I was looking
[23:04] Adam Ant: it was supposed to be there
[23:04] Atticus: there's a whole mess of posts missing.... you didn't delete any?
[23:04] Adam Ant: nope
[23:04] Atticus: well, who did?
[23:04] Adam Ant: see if you can figure out how to read the admin logs .. admin actions are logged
[23:04] Atticus: theres only 10 threads in there
[23:06] Atticus: i'll have to do it tomorrow
[23:06] Atticus: i'm heading to bed
[23:06] Adam Ant: okay, good night :)
[23:06] Atticus: you too, later.
[23:10] Atticus: argh! the new player thread is gone too... there was a bunch of really in depth guides for getting on started in uo/ai in that thread...
[23:10] Atticus: 
[23:10] Atticus: ok, going to bed! g'night!
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[13:41] Adam Ant: fyi: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550005#Post550005)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550005#Post550005 [Offline Message (9/12/2007 [16:28])]
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[17:33] Atticus: ok, so that's the log i got today, right?
[17:34] Adam Ant: yes sir
[17:36] Atticus: ok, and i didn't see anything in the admin logs about the BSI
[17:37] Adam Ant: were there after the move do you know?
[17:37] Adam Ant: (move to the new board)
[17:37] Atticus: not sure, they should have been.
[17:37] Atticus: i know there was a lot more there after the movet han there is now
[17:38] Adam Ant: hmm..
[17:38] Atticus: remember the BSI broke and i had to reorganise everything?
[17:38] Adam Ant: oh, so you messed it up? :P
[17:38] Atticus: ha-ha-ha :P
[17:39] Atticus: You OK'ed everything, or touched it last, so it's your fault.
[17:39] Adam Ant: I seem to remember something like this....
[17:39] Atticus: a lot of the threads duplicated in the bsi forum, so we had to basically dupe the bsi forum into a NEW bsi forum then delete that one.
[17:39] Atticus: erm, the old one.
[17:39] Adam Ant: I remember there being a bug that 'stickie' things were disappearing and people on the UBBCentral forums came up with a fix .. / way to restore them
[17:40] Adam Ant: did we keep the old one?
[17:40] Atticus: I don't know, i wasn't admin at the time.
[17:40] Atticus: not sure what you guys did.
[17:40] Adam Ant: well .. 
[17:40] Atticus: we don't have it now, though.
[17:41] Adam Ant: go check and see if there is a forum that is turned off that is like test or backup or something like that
[17:41] Adam Ant: Then also, go to UBB and ask about the sticky posts disappearing after an upgrade and how to restore them
[17:42] Atticus: i believe the only thing i sticked was the recent updates thread
[17:42] Atticus: as there was no real need to sticky anything else
[17:43] Adam Ant: I think the problem came from stuff that was already stickied during the move
[17:44] Adam Ant: try doing a search in that forum  .. see if you get a hit on an invisable doc
[17:44] Atticus: they were completely replicated threads, though. I copied and pasted everything into the new forum.
[17:44] Atticus: ok
[17:44] Atticus: in fact, that's what it is...
[17:44] Atticus: every post I made is gone...
[17:45] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=77&Number=510891&Searchpage=1&Main=42665&Words=guide+Atticus%2A&topic=0&Search=true#Post510891)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=77&Number=510891&Searchpage=1&M(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=77&Number=510891&Searchpage=1&Main=42665&Words=guide+Atticus%2A&topic=0&Search=true#Post510891)ain=42665&Words=guide+Atticus%2A&topic=0&Search=true#Post510891
[17:46] Atticus: now, if you go down to the scroll bar and hit "go" to the bsi forum, you'll notice that post isn't in there.
[17:46] Adam Ant: okay, so you found the posts .. good.
[17:46] Adam Ant: do not delete any ;p
[17:46] Atticus: i found 1 post... and it's not displaying in the forum
[17:47] Adam Ant: try unstickie them and see if that brings them back
[17:48] Atticus: it wasn't sticky... but making it sticky made it display
[17:48] Adam Ant: then unsticky it again and see if that fixes it
[17:48] Adam Ant: This is what I remember from the UBB forums
[17:49] Adam Ant: it was a database type bug that  .. yeah
[17:51] Atticus: seems it only displays if it's sticky
[17:51] Adam Ant: ask how to fix on UBB please .. they will probably know
[17:53] Atticus: we're ubb7, right?
[17:53] Adam Ant: yes, exact version is in the control panel
[17:54] Adam Ant: PS .. remember when someone complained to you that the Crazy Map Day was out of sync with the town crier announcement (and you were going to write it up :p)
[17:54] Adam Ant: Well, turns out a player paied the town crier to anounce that CMD Was ON! hours before it was actually on ;p
[17:55] Adam Ant: I bet that's what happened
[17:56] Atticus: He also complained that he didn't get a map for the last hour, and claimed his friend was having the same problem.
[17:57] Adam Ant: if they *believed* the bogus town crier message, than that would be true
[17:57] Atticus: wasn't the town crier message early, though?
[17:58] Atticus: afk a sec
[17:58] Atticus: phone
[18:12] Atticus: sorry, i got rear ended a couple weeks ago and have been playing phone tag with the insurance company ever since
[18:13] Adam Ant: ah .. sorry to hear that :\
[18:13] Adam Ant: You ok?
[18:13] Atticus: ya, just a little bump.
[18:13] Atticus: on my fender
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[14:52] Adam Ant: Hey, do you have that litte italy log handy (the one I banned him for)?
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[16:01] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550454#Post550454)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550454#Post550454
[16:59] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php
[17:02] Atticus: also, is there not any way to [add a bandit blade, or any of the other special weapons? or do i have to make them myself?
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[17:28] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550477#Post550477)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550477#Post550477
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[19:18] Atticus: looks good.
[19:18] Atticus: sounds good
[19:18] Atticus: yay!
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[20:11] Atticus: broke test center a bit. There's a crit in jail with a name hue that crashes my client
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[22:27] Adam Ant: hey, what's yogi's ICQ?
[22:28] Adam Ant: PS. I'll go delete that crit .. 
[22:30] Adam Ant: *deleted*
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[05:28] Atticus: yogi- 122627052
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[08:58] Adam Ant: ty .. chatting now :)
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[15:34] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550631#Post550631)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=550631#Post550631
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[16:03] Atticus: howdy, you about
[16:03] Atticus: ?
[16:07] Atticus: ok, well, here's a link to the next event. Prize is higher, but the spawn and boss are harder/more costly: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/550906/Main/46157/#Post550906)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/550906/Main/46157/#Post550906)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/550906/Main/46157/#Post550906(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/550906/Main/46157/#Post550906)
[16:51] Adam Ant: when do you plan on having tyhis event? .. is there a date?
[17:28] Atticus: some time after you approve it, if you do.
[17:28] Atticus: it wont be announced on the boards or anything... i don't plan for much of any of the kin type events to be announced on the boards
[17:28] Atticus: unless i can think of some lore to back it.
[17:31] Atticus: probably within a day after.. so hopefully tomorrow or monday.
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[18:23] Adam Ant: well, you will need to a fair amount of logged in players to defeat a champ
[19:10] Atticus: ya, well, nothings set in stone. If there's not enough people on i'll just tweak everything to fit the pop.
[19:10] Atticus: i had actually thought of that all already. It's kind of a catch... need events to help boost the pop, but you need a good pop to take part in the events.
[19:11] Atticus: but, i messed around with everything a bit and i think i have the hang of it enough to tweak things for an event this simple on the fly.
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[10:43] Atticus: did that event look ok to you?
[13:10] Adam Ant: yeah. all but the str/difficultity .. but you said you can change it dynamically, yeah ok
[13:11] Adam Ant: just make sure you also scale the gold on the difficultity as well as the number of people
[13:11] Atticus: you think 90k is too much or too little?
[13:11] Atticus: erm, per 10 people
[13:11] Adam Ant: it's fine
[13:12] Adam Ant: just don't overlap the event today
[13:12] Atticus: ya, not doing it today. probably tomorrow
[13:12] Adam Ant: kk;p
[13:12] Atticus: gonna work on one of the promo events today
[13:13] Atticus: cock fights... yay
[13:13] Adam Ant: :)
[13:13] Adam Ant: brb
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[20:24] Atticus: starting event....
[22:34] Atticus: event complete... everything went well, but gumshoe got an unplanned true rare out of the deal... Should be ok, though. Will just create more excitement for future events.
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[09:17] Adam Ant: um, handing out true rares is a big deal, especially when they are staff .. I would like all the details.
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[13:29] Adam Ant: sop you were pulling my leg about yogi getting a true rare?
[13:41] Adam Ant: ah, a head with 16 characters? :P
[13:41] Adam Ant: lol
[13:41] Adam Ant: *freaks out*
[13:42] Adam Ant: my only concern would be that both you and yogi did not realize it until after the event and yogi got the head.
[13:43] Adam Ant: if he knew about before, it's a problem (for the obvious reasons)
[14:09] Atticus: he didn't know about it before
[14:10] Atticus: there was no conspiracy or anything ;)
[14:15] Atticus: I'm getting the hang of the spawn stuff, but i could still use some training on how to alter my, and other staff members chars to play characters in events without 1hitting people.
[14:16] Adam Ant: kk, ther basic 'hack' I found that works is to create another char on your staff account .. then set that char to say counselor, buff stats, return to player access
[14:16] Adam Ant: you can't buff a player, but you can buff a staff, then return them to player access
[14:19] Atticus: I don't think seers can set access levels..
[14:20] Atticus: what's the [command for that?
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[14:30] Atticus: ya, gotta be admin+
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[20:44] Adam Ant: so did bill know about the head being a true rare before the event?
[20:45] Atticus: nope, i didnt even know of it. it was an accident.
[20:45] Atticus: erm, i mean. I knew all along but never told bill :P ya, that's it!
[20:45] Adam Ant: alrighty .. we had a rule one upon a time .. I'd like to reinstate it...
[20:46] Adam Ant: No one that is prvvy to the event internals (helps design it, etc) can participate on their player character
[20:46] Adam Ant: seem reasonable?
[20:46] Atticus: ok, he didn't help design this one though.
[20:47] Adam Ant: well, he read it and commented on it?
[20:47] Adam Ant: I just don't want staff walking off with the true rares from an event .. this could have turned into a huge mess
[20:48] Adam Ant: it's best if staff not participate .. and at a minimum, they should distance themselves from the events forum if they really want to be there
[20:48] Atticus: so, how will he go about taking part in events if i dont need his help for smaller ones? should i just advise him to stay out of the thread?
[20:48] Atticus: ok
[20:48] Adam Ant: if he wants to participate, he should stay from the event
[20:49] Atticus: i'll let him know.
[20:49] Adam Ant: this isn't directed at him .. it's been an ageold rule
[20:49] Adam Ant: (and common sense)
[20:49] Adam Ant: you can participate in event creation, or participate as a player, just not both
[20:49] Atticus: ok.
[20:50] Atticus: i think i got the staff alteration stuff figured out without having to give another char staff access and all that, too, so the next event will probably be a smaller one involving that.
[20:51] Adam Ant: okay, you'll have to explain to me how that will work
[20:52] Atticus: [set blessed false [set rawstr  [set virtualarmor  [setskill magicresist 
[20:52] Atticus: bank everything... dress accordingly
[20:53] Atticus: you said you can place those large pirate ships anywhere, right?
[20:54] Adam Ant: yep
[20:55] Atticus: ok... would you mind dropping one of those OFF the shore somewhere in britain, so i can test a couple things out on test center?
[20:55] Adam Ant: you're a seer there?
[20:55] Atticus: ya... is it something i can just [add?
[20:56] Adam Ant: yes, it's an addon, so try [addmenu pirate
[20:58] Atticus: nope
[20:59] Atticus: and it's somewhat important (in an event sense). These little spawn events i'm hosting are basically me private and live testing things for bigger events, and what i plan to test with this next event is key to the first big event i have planned.
[21:00] Atticus: which i'm almost done writing the proposal for.
[21:06] Adam Ant: what do you get with [addmenu pirate
[21:06] Atticus: pirate, pirate captain, pirate champ, pirate deckhand, pirate hat, pirate wench
[21:08] Adam Ant: try the same thing with ship
[21:08] Adam Ant: [addonmenu ship
[21:08] Adam Ant: I mean
[21:08] Adam Ant: [addmenu
[21:09] Atticus: shipwright, townshipconsole, township deed
[21:11] Adam Ant: well, hit me up tomorrow .. I havn't got UO installed on this computer yet (reinstalling the OS)
[21:11] Atticus: ok
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[18:11] Adam Ant: hey, would you include a roof as a 'story'?
[18:11] Adam Ant: so, is 3 storys + a roof you can get to a 4 story?
[18:12] Atticus: the roof is accessible?
[18:13] Adam Ant: yes, there is a flight of stairs to it
[18:13] Atticus: i'd say so, ya.
[18:13] Atticus: could always just simplify it if it's for a static-house descript. and say 3 story w/ roof
[18:14] Adam Ant: right, so you see my confusion?
[18:16] Atticus: well, no... it wouldn't be considered a story... what am i thinking, lol... i work in construction.
[18:16] Atticus: no, it wouldn't be considered a story.
[18:17] Adam Ant: okay, I'll say w/ roof
[18:18] Atticus: i think that would be best... sorry, you just got me while i as looking up directions to tomorrow's site.
[18:18] Adam Ant: np ;p
[18:20] Atticus: oh ya, pirate ship
[18:20] Atticus: ^ reminder
[18:20] Adam Ant: kk .. TC off the shores of brit?
[18:20] Atticus: sounds good... the key is to keep it OFF shores... i want to make sure it can be accessed and have room to test and all that.
[18:21] Adam Ant: yes .. you may need tyo build a small platform
[18:21] Adam Ant: We originally had it out in the ocean
[18:21] Adam Ant: and jade had a floating dock to 'land' onm
[18:22] Atticus: hmm... how did she deal with players boats blocking the platform?
[18:22] Atticus: n/m, i'll just test it out.
[18:24] Adam Ant: it was a dock .. somewhat long
[18:24] Adam Ant: maybe -6 boards in length
[18:28] Atticus: hmmm... i might need to break this into 2 seperate live tests then...
[18:28] Atticus: that's ok, though.
[18:28] Atticus: having a writers block anyways
[19:04] Adam Ant: I'm going to need to do the pirate ship tomorrow .. turns out I archived that Addon and I need to merge it back into the code.
[19:04] Atticus: no problemo.
[19:05] Atticus: that was spanish... it means "no problem."
[19:05] Adam Ant: har
[19:05] Adam Ant: that was short for hardy har har 
[19:05] Adam Ant: :p
[19:06] Atticus: well, you learn something new every day
[19:06] Atticus: i'll write it down so i don't forget
[19:06] Adam Ant: :p
[19:33] Atticus: you'll like this a lot :P (Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI)(Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI
[19:35] Adam Ant: yeah, I've heard that one before :)
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[16:16] Atticus: hey, do you mind if i ask a player to build a structure for the chicken fight events? I have a particular player in mind... his houses kick some serious ass.
[16:17] Adam Ant: no that's fine .. build it on TC tho
[16:17] Adam Ant: you mean a structure I can turn into a 'house' right?
[16:17] Atticus: yup
[16:17] Adam Ant: big statics ... ok
[16:17] Atticus: grrr cant turn these damn bold letter off
[16:17] Adam Ant: make sure it is 18x18 or less
[16:18] Atticus: ok, will do.
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[18:34] Adam Ant: hey, can you stick this one our landing pahe please:
[18:35] Adam Ant:  
 
Powered by RunUO
 
 
[18:35] Atticus: huh?
[18:35] Atticus: where do you want it stuck?
[18:35] Adam Ant: that gives credit to RunUO for supplying our engine
[18:36] Adam Ant: maybe at the bottom of the landing page
[18:36] Atticus: portal page?
[18:36] Adam Ant: dunno, you can find a goo place?
[18:36] Adam Ant: yes
[18:36] Atticus: i'll tuck it somewhere.
[18:37] Atticus: all set... displays at the bottom all over the forums
[18:37] Atticus: why do you want that there?
[18:41] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.runuo.com/forums/announcements/70532-if-you-build-project-based-runuo.html)http://www.runuo.com/forums/announcements/70532-if-you-build-project-based-runuo.html
[18:43] Atticus: ryan's scum :P
[18:43] Adam Ant: well, we own him this much :p
[18:53] Adam Ant: can you change the island layout on the portal page and not affect the regular forum islands?
[18:57] Atticus: nope.
[18:57] Atticus: what did you want to accomplish?
[18:59] Adam Ant: a more promenate placement
[18:59] Atticus: of?
[18:59] Atticus: be a little more specific...
[18:59] Adam Ant: like, at the upper left above Angel Island links
[18:59] Adam Ant: the runuo buttonQ!!
[18:59] Atticus: ohhh
[19:00] Atticus: then, no.
[19:04] Atticus: anything you do on the sides, top, or bottom of the boards will display throughout them completely.
[19:09] Adam Ant: well, lets try it and see how it looks .. top left
[19:09] Adam Ant: well .. heh
[19:09] Adam Ant: we're ok where we are I guess
[19:09] Adam Ant: thanks :)
[19:09] Atticus: it's not a problem if you want it moved...
[19:09] Atticus: it'll take me a while to figure out where to stick that line within all the stuff for the vote/donation links, though.
[19:10] Adam Ant: well, it wouldn't be up there with the vote donation links
[19:10] Atticus: you want it above the left tables, but below the nav bar?
[19:10] Adam Ant: I was thinking a tiny island above the "Angel Island links" island
[19:11] Adam Ant: ya
[19:11] Adam Ant: well, top item in the table
[19:11] Adam Ant: insert a new Custom island
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[19:12] Atticus: ok
[19:13] Atticus: i'm trying to get [new] running again on some level, and gotta do something with that real quick.
[19:13] Atticus: i'll toy with this right after that.
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[17:04] Adam Ant: hou have some time?
[17:04] Atticus: for what?
[17:04] Adam Ant: I need a housing update
[17:05] Atticus: sure
[17:05] Adam Ant: I'm publishing 8 new houses
[17:05] Atticus: eight? jesus
[17:05] Adam Ant: yeah, I was behind :P
[17:05] Atticus: hope you got that dwarven one... there's gonna be an uproar if you didn't :P
[17:06] Adam Ant: I'm just getting them off the list of approved houses (jade's list)
[17:06] Adam Ant: but ... 
[17:06] Adam Ant: she said trhat when I finished her approved list, she would go approve more houses
[17:06] Adam Ant: (done)
[17:07] Atticus: sweet
[17:07] Adam Ant: so...
[17:08] Adam Ant: you will do the 8 new ones ... counting from the south-east ==> south-west
[17:08] Adam Ant: I've got 6 up now .. I'll call you when I have all 8
[17:09] Atticus: ok
[17:19] Adam Ant: you can sanity check my work: house should be public, and "in perfect condition",  vendor should have priced deeds, vando should be named + title
[17:19] Atticus: ok
[17:21] Adam Ant: abd doors
[17:21] Adam Ant: and
[17:50] Atticus: we all set?
[17:50] Adam Ant: yes yes!
[17:50] Adam Ant: go go go!
[18:00] Atticus: all set
[18:00] Atticus: anything else you need tonight?
[18:01] Adam Ant: nope, we're all set
[18:01] Adam Ant: have a good night and thanks
[18:01] Atticus: any time.. you too ;)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Sep 23 10:42:09 2007
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[10:42] Atticus: do static houses HAVE to be 18x18? or can they be 31x31 (stock castle size)?
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[10:46] Adam Ant: 18x18 is the max 
[10:50] Adam Ant: however .. it is possible to place two (or more) plots adjacent to one another to achieve a large structure that still benifits from caching
[10:50] Adam Ant: If you built one of these, it would be totally new test of the system, but it should work
[12:00] Atticus: ok...
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[20:39] Atticus: can you add the TC custom houses onto prod without the stairs/sign?
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[09:39] Adam Ant: yes .. but I believe you can remove the stairs yourself
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Sep 25 14:42:27 2007
[14:44] Adam Ant: hey, what would you think about a bob champ in Jhelom?
[14:44] Adam Ant: (for the fall champ)
[14:44] Atticus: perfect... Bobs are a big part of AI, people will love it.
[14:44] Adam Ant: not too 'odd'?
[14:44] Atticus: fall/bob next summer/vampire
[14:45] Atticus: well, it'll be corny, no doubt... but in a fun way
[14:46] Adam Ant: kk ... how about at Jhelom .. turn off guards
[14:46] Atticus: hmmm
[14:47] Atticus: well, i'd say make it so that the guards flee when he spawns...
[14:47] Atticus: thing is... players are going to complain about a town being unguarded... everyone has their town of choice.
[14:47] Adam Ant: sure
[14:47] Adam Ant: (too bad)
[14:47] Adam Ant: :P
[14:48] Adam Ant: for a few weeks a year (and because Jhelom is preferred by bobs
[14:49] Atticus: ya, i'd say go with just leaving them off...
[14:49] Adam Ant: okay, now...
[14:49] Adam Ant: a big question...
[14:49] Atticus: they'll probably have a bigger beef with the sporadicness (word?) of them turning off when he spawns at the whim of a player
[14:50] Adam Ant: make a bob kin (pink robe) that allows bobs to fight side-by-side of the champ. (There will be no other bob-kin perks at this time [i.e., ransom])
[14:51] Atticus: that would be great if people would go along with it and use bobs, but it would just end up getting abused by random PVPers in skirts.
[14:52] Atticus: if you could add skill and appearance limitations to join the kin, that might work.
[14:52] Atticus: like, no more than 50-75 skill points used, and have to be bald.
[14:53] Adam Ant: ya .. okay, keep this to yourself .. I need to think about it some
[14:53] Atticus: 
[14:53] Atticus: close one!
[14:54] Adam Ant: one more thing .. is there like a preferred bob creature? like an animal or something I can use as a first wave? *thinks pig because it's pink*
[14:54] Atticus: maybe start with a vampire one for now while you work out the quirks of the bob one... these seasonal champs were a big hit
[14:54] Atticus: big enough to put serious thought into each one.
[14:54] Atticus: ya, Mr. Bobs
[14:54] Atticus: pink horses
[14:55] Adam Ant: lol, oka
[14:55] Adam Ant: :)
[14:55] Adam Ant: okay, go back to work!
[14:55] Adam Ant: (is there a #2 associated animal?)
[14:55] Atticus: not that i know of
[14:56] Atticus: Mr. Bob is AI relative...
[14:56] Adam Ant: yes, I know :p
[14:56] Atticus: ya, NOW you do... i just told you
[14:56] Atticus: :P
[14:56] Adam Ant: haha
[14:57] Atticus: i had a question though... and it relates to what's been keeping me from hosting events the past couple weeks..
[14:57] Adam Ant: kk
[14:57] Atticus: with the houses bigger than 18x18
[14:57] Atticus: i can place 2 right next to each other on test, and they line up nicely
[14:58] Atticus: making it 36x18
[14:58] Atticus: but when i try to place one behind it, it gets all messed up.
[14:58] Atticus: will that fix itself on prod?
[14:58] Adam Ant: notr likely
[14:58] Adam Ant: what happens?
[14:58] Atticus: it's raised, and the stairs overlap
[14:59] Adam Ant: oh, maybe because os the stairs .. can you eliminate the stairs?
[14:59] Atticus: and i'm trying to build a more customizable/roomy event castle...
[15:00] Atticus: couldn't delete the stairs
[15:00] Atticus: hmm, maybe through the sign... let me try real quick
[15:01] Atticus: or not... i can't log into test
[15:01] Adam Ant: let me see if it's down
[15:01] Atticus: it's not that... i can connect
[15:01] Atticus: but i can't log my char in... i get an error message... "unknown facet"
[15:01] Adam Ant: ?!!
[15:02] Atticus: "unknown facet 127"
[15:04] Adam Ant: felix?
[15:04] Atticus: ya
[15:04] Adam Ant: sec
[15:06] Adam Ant: I need to go lunch .. but try logging in now
[15:07] Atticus: hmm.. what'd i break?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Sep 25 16:15:31 2007
[16:15] Adam Ant: were you able to login?
[16:15] Atticus: yup
[16:15] Atticus: trying to build this thing now, but it's gonna be a pain in the ass because of support and such for the second floor..
[16:16] Adam Ant: okay, I don't know what you did .. but I pulled you to me .. maybe you wennt somewhere that confused the system
[16:16] Atticus: i was in green acres.
[16:16] Atticus: way east
[16:16] Adam Ant: I need to run, I'll be back later
[16:16] Atticus: righto, later
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[14:58] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=553205#Post553205)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=553205#Post553205
[14:59] Adam Ant: I'll go have a look :)
[14:59] Atticus: sweet
[15:00] Atticus: silver foxed has been getting back to me about the cock fighting arena, too... i bet he builds something kick ass.
[15:00] Atticus: he's the guy that built that dwarf house.
[15:02] Adam Ant: ah
[15:10] Atticus: was afk, sorry.
[15:11] Atticus: got it to work by overlapping everything and piecing it all together.... loads of fun lining everything up... especially all the pillars.
[15:11] Atticus: most of those pillars are split between 2+ houses...
[15:13] Adam Ant: it's a bit plain :p
[15:13] Atticus: that's the idea.... plain = customizable.
[15:14] Atticus: at first, i built a much nicer looking castle, with tower things on the top... then i thought "well, if a player wants to rent this thing, he might not want those, and want a open roof...
[15:14] Atticus: if they don't want an open roof, then having the open roof serves as a palette.
[15:14] Atticus: can build what ever we want up there for events, then clear it later.
[15:17] Atticus: one big pallet that gets the bulk of the lag problems created by something like this out of the way, while leaving room for customization
[15:18] Atticus: er... not a palette.... canvas!
[15:18] Atticus: one big canvas :P
[15:19] Adam Ant: yeah, ok.
[15:19] Adam Ant: have you considered using an unused dungeon?
[15:19] Adam Ant: Like terrathan keep
[15:20] Adam Ant: it's big, interesting, and something we could customize
[15:20] Atticus: i can do that. Will I be allowed to let players host events there, also?
[15:20] Adam Ant: yes after it's sealed off from the rest of t2a etc
[15:21] Atticus: ok... so that means "new event castle: denied"?
[15:21] Adam Ant: no, it's just not interesting, I'll have to do the conversion to a static house, we
[15:22] Adam Ant: ll need to dink around with it to get it right, there could be problems, ... and the unused areas of the map are ready to use, cause no lag, and are interesting ... 
[15:23] Atticus: plus you did all that housing region stuff, so a dungeon could function well for players... if i remember how you did it correctly.
[15:23] Atticus: or was the ban location set by the house sign?
[15:39] Adam Ant: I don't remember, I think it just ejected you outside the rect
[16:44] Atticus: what is it about the tower that you find uninteresting? Do you know when i mean when i say it's just a canvas?
[16:45] Atticus: erm, castle... thing
[17:24] Adam Ant: yes, I understand what you mean by canvas, but...
[17:32] Atticus: ok... I'll see what i can do with other places.
[17:32] Atticus: any issues you can think of off the top of your head for using unused dungeons for events?
[17:42] Adam Ant: um, not really .. only 'access' .. making sure players can't slip into an otherwise inaccessable land (t2a)
[18:15] Adam Ant: come to me on TC
[18:16] Atticus: [unhide
[18:16] Atticus: i can't [who you.
[18:18] Adam Ant: 10 minutes from....
[18:18] Adam Ant: ?
[18:18] Atticus: completing the "arogoth's reign" proposal.
[18:18] Adam Ant: alrighty
[18:22] Atticus: I might spray this one with perfume and staple a $20 to it, for ya :P
[18:54] Atticus: ok, this is just the proposal... You'll notice there's a lot to be posted/reported on (might be a good idea to look over that application post and hire some reporters, but i'll see if anyone currently on staff will be available.)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=543172#Post543172)
[18:55] Atticus: but, since the lore stuff will need to be done shortly after each event, there wont be much time for spawner, etc, setup... so basically i'm gonna have to test everything all together, and get it setup and ready to go on prod
[18:55] Atticus: so after you approve it, it will still be a good long while before i can get it up and running.... but here's the proposal.
[18:56] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=543172#Post543172)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=543172#Post543172
[18:58] Atticus: it's long, but it's actually a really quick read, since there's a lot of bulletpoints, and i'll get into specifics on how certain things will work mechanically in the spawner writeup.
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[10:16] Adam Ant: You still need to remove weaver from the moderator lists
[11:33] Adam Ant: lol, okay, add weaver back everywhere .. he's back!
[11:34] Adam Ant: please update the roster too .. his new ICQ is:  466697910
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[13:14] Adam Ant: Can you add back all weavers access?
[13:14] Adam Ant: *reads your proposal*
[14:07] Atticus: ok.
[14:07] Atticus: let me get my dogs situated and i'll get everything updated...
[14:07] Atticus: he just had admin access, didn't he?
[14:08] Adam Ant: I believe so yes
[14:08] Adam Ant: his ICQ number will need updating too
[14:08] Atticus: ok, i think he was a [companion] at one point, so i might have that too.
[14:09] Adam Ant: I ICQ'ed iy to you this morning .. it's a brand new number
[14:09] Atticus: ok
[14:09] Adam Ant: 466697910
[14:09] Atticus: he's a GM and a dev, right?
[14:10] Adam Ant: yes
[14:10] Adam Ant: and a pot head, but we don't have a designation for that :p
[14:10] Atticus: HUGE... pot head :P
[14:10] Adam Ant: and Vegan!
[14:12] Atticus: and edumacted.
[14:12] Adam Ant: yep yep
[14:14] Atticus: crap, which ones his staff account? erlein or weaver?
[14:14] Atticus: i think it was weaver?
[14:19] Adam Ant: weaver was staff
[14:19] Adam Ant: erlien was the hippy
[14:26] Atticus: ok, he's admin and his ICQ is and that is updated... looked like i forgot to add burly and gumshoe's ICQ's before, so those are added too.
[14:26] Atticus: does he know he was being added back?
[14:27] Adam Ant: yes
[14:28] Atticus: ok... made a welcome back thread...
[14:29] Atticus: did you read "Arogoth's Reign"?
[14:29] Adam Ant: reading it .. isn't a soulstone some huge graphic .. nice looking, but totally out-of-place in our world?
[14:30] Atticus: it's a multi, it's not that huge though.
[14:30] Adam Ant: it will not be given out ?
[14:30] Atticus: nope, static.
[14:31] Atticus: just there for ***PAZAZ!****
[14:31] Atticus: 
[14:31] Adam Ant: well, and you and bill can do this all on your own?
[14:31] Adam Ant: (no dev support needed?)
[14:31] Atticus: no, gonna need to pool resources.
[14:31] Atticus: oh, ya, all seers.
[14:31] Atticus: no dev stuff needed.
[14:32] Adam Ant: I need to run for a couple hours, but looks good .. 
[14:32] Adam Ant: why don't you start the planning
[14:32] Adam Ant: keep in mind our tiny numbers and how we can scale .. 
[14:32] Adam Ant: also prepare a lettyer for me to mass email :)
[14:32] Adam Ant: see you in a few!
[14:32] Atticus: ok
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[15:17] Atticus: one thing that would be REALLY nice for quests in general, though, is something to ANCHOR crits, so they wont follow people past a certain point.
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[15:35] Adam Ant: yeah .. would be valuable in a general sense .. I cal that gravity
[15:36] Atticus: hugely valuable...
[15:36] Adam Ant: that is .. the gravity increases the further they get from the spawnewr
[15:36] Atticus: is it doable?
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[17:17] Atticus: i don't mean the usual "wandering" crits do, either... I mean so they wont follow someone 1000 screens away after they attack them
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[18:31] Adam Ant: it's doable, but hard
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[19:17] Atticus: template spawners are broke... want a script request?
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[21:54] Atticus: setting up a couple gates for burly's tourney
[21:54] Adam Ant: sure
[21:54] Atticus: sweet
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[15:34] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=553760#Post553760)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=553760#Post553760 <-- everythings tested for that, I can host it very soon after (if) approved.
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[21:28] Atticus: any objection to a couple broadcasts/gates for burly's events?
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[23:25] Adam Ant: no sir .. but I'm guessing I'm a little late ;p
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Sep 29 16:16:36 2007
[19:34] Atticus: Heyo. Quick question... So that I don't have to bug you over ICQ so much, when I post an event idea, when you have time could you just read them over, then throw a quick "approved" or "rejected. Reason: ..." tag on the posts?
[00:36] Adam Ant: sure .. are you awaiting for approval on any atm?
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[10:28] Adam Ant: so are bobs known for saying anything?  .. what sort of speech should I give the bob champ?
[12:39] Atticus: Bob for Bob!
[12:39] Atticus: which is a play on "all for one and one for all"
[12:39] Atticus: aand "Bob will rise!"
[15:26] Adam Ant: okay, nice .. any other bob phrases you can think of?
[15:26] Adam Ant: if not .. make some up for me...
[15:26] Adam Ant: I will use those two when the King Bob is killed .. but I need to trash talk when he is fighting
[16:03] Atticus: I'll give it a whirl when my brain rehydrates
[16:03] Adam Ant: kk
[16:03] Atticus: and to answer your question from earlier, Yes, there is an event waiting.
[16:04] Atticus: "Whacky Champ!"
[16:04] Atticus: :P
[16:04] Adam Ant: ?
[16:04] Atticus: its in the event forum
[16:04] Atticus: it's just a harrower with a twist ;)
[16:05] Adam Ant: may be too mig for our current numbers
[16:05] Atticus: or a champ
[16:05] Adam Ant: *big
[16:05] Atticus: it's been thought of :P
[16:05] Adam Ant: okay, I need to get back to my bob champ .. I'll have a look later
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[15:21] Atticus: "Death to Fred!" "Freds! All of you! HAHAHAHAHA"
[15:22] Adam Ant: I'm getting close
[15:22] Adam Ant: !
[15:22] Atticus: or instead of "hahahaha" just emote "cackle" :P
[15:22] Atticus: Hey! Here's an idear... lets announce the PVM event (whacky champ) and the Seasonal champ at the same time! :P
[15:23] Adam Ant: um...
[15:23] Adam Ant: heh
[15:47] Adam Ant: we'll see :P
[15:47] Adam Ant: I'm off the get the wife unit a bday gift .. I'll be on a bit later :)
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[17:16] Atticus: What do you think about hiring on some reporters? People to report happenings on the shard (players/staff events) and post their stories on the boards?
[17:16] Atticus: Like "Cure" did.
[17:16] Adam Ant: I think it's a great idea .. but our staff atm is like 1/2 the size of the shard.... 
[17:17] Atticus: lol, ya that's true.
[17:17] Atticus: guess it's kind of a catch 22.
[17:17] Adam Ant: I think expansion needs to be in relation to shard size
[17:17] Atticus: but 1 or 2 reporters would work for now, as there's only 1 seer, too.
[17:17] Adam Ant: 2 reporters?
[17:17] Atticus: or 1
[17:18] Atticus: maybe post in the staff forum first? and if there's no response, pool the players?
[17:19] Adam Ant: posting in that staff forum.. problem with that is you get responses from folks that aren't on the hook to 'do' anything
[17:20] Atticus: ya, everyone seems to have their hands full.
[17:20] Adam Ant: it's easy to say "That's a great idea, hire a reporter, and another seer while you're at it" :p
[17:20] Adam Ant: well, I know I do ... 
[17:20] Atticus: ugh, more seers would be great!!
[17:20] Atticus: 
[17:20] Adam Ant: I think the best use of time atm is this....
[17:20] Adam Ant: Small simple Seer/Player events
[17:21] Atticus: agreed.. Arogoth's reign will be a lot of fun, and it's good i have it approved and ready to go, but i need more help than what's available to run it.
[17:21] Atticus: at the moment, that is.
[17:22] Adam Ant: Bill?
[17:22] Atticus: newborn + work.
[17:22] Adam Ant: ah
[17:22] Adam Ant: yeah
[17:23] Atticus: When he becomes more available he'll be an incredible seer and it would be crazy to not give him a shot at it, i think.
[17:23] Atticus: but, he doesn't want to commit to anything he doesn't have to time to apply himself to
[17:23] Adam Ant: yeah, I'm okay with that
[17:23] Adam Ant: say, did you ever fix those missing posts in the BSI forum?
[17:23] Atticus: yup
[17:24] Adam Ant: ty
[17:24] Atticus: np.
[17:27] Atticus: So, how about this...
[17:29] Atticus: I'll make a post saying we're looking to hire on 1 shard reporter, and be clear of what their role will be, and ask for a writing sample. And in the same post, restate some things about the event castle (that it's their for players to use) and that I'm willing/able to help players with both sculpting their events (to meet your approval standards) and also taking part in them (like hennarr did with events like the orc raid)?
[17:29] Atticus: That gets the players hosting events, someone reporting them, and taking a lot of the load off me, while giving the shard more events.
[17:32] Adam Ant: who dop you have in mind for a reporter? Did you know there is a staff position (access level) for Reporters? Because therte is an accesslevel, you're aware there is opportuinity for abuse (and a need to train)
[17:32] Atticus: No, actually. I thought you used the counselor template.
[17:33] Atticus: But if you highlight points to touch in the training, I'll tinker with it all, and when i have a handle on it do the training.
[17:33] Adam Ant: please read the section on Reporterd in the staff guidelines .. then we'll talk :)
[17:34] Adam Ant: *Reporters
[17:34] Atticus: ok, back in a few :P
[17:34] Adam Ant: kk
[17:36] Atticus: ok. I figured thems were the rules.
[17:37] Atticus: Is it an actual template in the code? Do they have less abilities than counselors?
[17:37] Adam Ant: yes, yes
[17:37] Adam Ant: but...
[17:37] Adam Ant: they could still ghost someone
[17:37] Atticus: right
[17:37] Adam Ant: and that is expressly forbidden
[17:38] Adam Ant: to enforce this, they are not allowed to be on their Reporter unless they are covering a story/event
[17:38] Atticus: ok. Scheduled/announced events only, right? Nothing like "wow, wrong sure was hoppin' last night!"?
[17:40] Adam Ant: ...?
[17:40] Adam Ant: are ytou talking about a reporter?
[17:40] Atticus: ya
[17:40] Adam Ant: no, reporteds make no announcements
[17:40] Adam Ant: they are reporters
[17:40] Adam Ant: they report :p
[17:40] Atticus: that's not what i said :P
[17:41] Atticus: ok...
[17:41] Atticus: example...
[17:41] Adam Ant: oh, oh oh .. when you said Announcement, I thought like [bc 
[17:41] Adam Ant: lol
[17:41] Atticus: Mortal event: Reporter would report on
[17:41] Adam Ant: yeah, they can report on anything that is covered
[17:41] Atticus: 5 people PVPing at wrong randomly: No?
[17:41] Atticus: ok
[17:41] Adam Ant: WE need to know it was covered
[17:41] Adam Ant: but the players don't need to know
[17:42] Adam Ant: Also it does not need to be scheduled .. so yes, it may be Wrong fights ...
[17:42] Adam Ant: But he needs preapproval from you (or another senior staff) before covering unscheduled evenys
[17:42] Adam Ant: (to keep them from ghosting)
[17:42] Atticus: hotspots only? PVMer might get a little mad if his favorite spot to kill monsters was outed by a hidden reporter because he got ganked :P
[17:43] Atticus: ah, ok.
[17:43] Adam Ant: user common sense :p
[17:43] Atticus: yup.
[17:50] Atticus: ok, so i'll try bill and burly before I do anything, and if neither of them wants to commit to it, i'll write up a post and PM it to you for review before i post it?
[17:50] Adam Ant: okay
[17:57] Atticus: aaaaaaaaaand for my last inquiry of the night: I know you dont want to hire seers, but what about allowing staff members to temporarily play roles in events? Their only task would be to kill players (with restraint) and die.
[18:00] Adam Ant: yes, but it's got to be a staff account, not a player account .. so if Seer X wants to play a part in an event, ne needs to create another character on his staff acount.
[18:02] Atticus: come again?
[18:02] Atticus: oh, account.. got it.
[18:02] Atticus: new char on staff account... player access...
[18:03] Adam Ant: we just don't want you 'boosting' a character os some player
[18:03] Atticus: right.
[18:03] Adam Ant: ir needs to be on a staff account
[18:03] Adam Ant: this maintains the separation we require
[18:03] Atticus: why not just boost the staff char?
[18:04] Adam Ant: you can, but that usually means .. empting youyr backpack .. changing clothes .. changiong look .. it's usually easier to create a 'to order' account
[18:05] Atticus: ok, i only ask because staff chars have a unique name hue, which will help to make them stand out
[18:05] Adam Ant: that has nothing to do with what I was saying tho
[18:06] Atticus: i know, it's a side question ;)
[18:06] Adam Ant: please explain. :p
[18:06] Atticus: what you're saying is: don't alter player accounts (ever) and keep all alterations to staff accounts
[18:06] Adam Ant: yes
[18:07] Atticus: and it's easiest to alter a new character, but i CAN alter their regular staff chars if so desired
[18:07] Adam Ant: yes
[18:07] Atticus: which is what i'll probably do, since i seem to crash test when i mess with name hues :P
[18:08] Adam Ant: nah, you were crashing your client .. TC was fine
[18:09] Atticus: erm, ya.
[18:09] Adam Ant: your client wasn't happy with the name hue
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[14:02] Adam Ant: got a job fort you when you've got a minute!
[14:31] Atticus: uh oh
[14:31] Adam Ant: :)
[14:32] Adam Ant: please update our playguide on doors with these babies
[14:32] Adam Ant: (Link: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2605/doorsas1.jpg)http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2605/doorsas1.jpg
[14:32] Adam Ant: the names are in the SR in the developers forum
[14:32] Adam Ant: The Bob champ is online :)
[14:33] Atticus: ooooo, we should spawn one today and announce it :P
[14:33] Adam Ant: so maybe that needs updating too!
[14:33] Adam Ant: it's up now!
[14:33] Adam Ant: I'
[14:33] Adam Ant: m working on the post now
[14:41] Adam Ant: what do you think:
[14:41] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=554704#Post554704)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=554704#Post554704
[14:43] Atticus: looks good
[14:44] Atticus: fixed a typo, because i'm way linguical and stuff.
[14:44] Adam Ant: :)
[14:45] Atticus: champ sounds fun though
[14:45] Adam Ant: I think so too :)
[14:46] Atticus: want me to spawn one later and announce it throughout the game? Get some use/chaos out of it?
[14:46] Adam Ant: hey, you interested in writing a letter for me to mass email introducing it?
[14:47] Atticus: I'll give it a whirl.
[14:47] Atticus: I really think it would be best to stock pile some of these updates to advertise.
[14:47] Atticus: ... though.
[14:48] Atticus: 1 email that says "Holy crap, did you know AI has brand new monster AI, a new champ, factions, events, a new front page, etc...?"
[14:48] Atticus: will be a lot more effective than 5 emails announcing each one.
[14:48] Atticus: takes patience, but we might see less of a trickle affect
[14:49] Adam Ant: yes, do the bundle if you like .. but kick it off with the new champ ..
[14:49] Atticus: we dont have those other things yet :P
[14:50] Adam Ant: well, things we do have
[14:50] Adam Ant: like static housing, etc...
[14:50] Adam Ant: most important is trhe bob champ
[14:50] Adam Ant: *thing
[14:51] Atticus: ok, well, could you take a look at the whacky champ event and approve/deny it? That way i can include it if approved.
[14:52] Adam Ant: linkie?
[14:52] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/553760#Post553760)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/553760#Post553760
[14:53] Atticus: ignore the fact that i spelled "whacky" wrong for now :P
[15:04] Atticus: hmmm, how does this sound:
[15:05] Atticus: Since the news stuff doesn't display on the front page any more, how about we add a new forum "family" at the top of the boards the houses the news, faction update, and event forum?
[15:05] Atticus: and start including update news in the news forum?
[15:44] Adam Ant: Okay, it's whacky alright ;p
[15:44] Atticus: yup, chaos, confusion, lots of fun :P
[15:45] Adam Ant: I'd like to wait a week or two tho so as not to distract attention from the Bob champ .. if that;s looses interest too soon, then we can move your event forward .. but as long as the Champ is 'pleasing' to the players, I'd rather stretch that our for a couple weeks
[15:45] Adam Ant: Sound fair?
[15:47] Atticus: not sure i follow the reasoning, but it's not a problem. Events take players out of the regular grind and keep players from doing the same thing over and over and getting bored. 
[15:47] Atticus: So, does that mean no events for the next couple weeks? Or just not this one?
[16:49] Atticus: should the champ letter be in HTML? Is that how you get the bold letters and such in your emails?
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[17:10] Adam Ant: hey, I think it was a hit
[17:11] Atticus: yyyyup...
[17:12] Atticus: the secret of the box is already driving me mad, though :P
[17:14] Adam Ant: well I can tell you!
[17:15] Adam Ant: well, unless it's driving you mad :p
[17:15] Adam Ant: then I best wait ;)
[17:15] Atticus: .... bastard....
[17:15] Adam Ant: lol, Medwin said it functioned like a bag-of-sending =\
[17:16] Atticus: i know, and it sent me into a panic... i was about 30 seconds away from spamming your icq, every forum, your PM box, and phone.
[17:16] Atticus: that bastard...
[17:16] Atticus: you and medwin.... bastards.
[17:18] Adam Ant: got my letter all ready?
[17:18] Adam Ant: :p
[17:19] Atticus: nope, guess that means you didn't get my message
[17:19] Atticus: does it need to be in HTML?
[17:19] Atticus: is that how you get all the bold letters and such?
[17:19] Adam Ant: I think plain text is safer
[17:20] Adam Ant: too much flash will take away from the message
[17:20] Adam Ant: I think our message is simple and crisp
[17:20] Adam Ant: We have a bob champ, come have fun with it
[17:20] Atticus: ok
[17:32] Atticus: Live on Angel Island: Fall Champion! 
  
 As part of the "Seasonal Champion Campaign," Angel Island has introduced the new fall champ: Bob! Bob for Bob! 
  
 Naturally, this champion can be found in the city of Jhelom. The first wave of bobs is blue, which means you'll have to flag criminal to take this champ down and the jhelom guards will be off for this season. 
  
 As always, the new champion will drop a couple interesting rares, one of which is quite functional! So hop onto your favorite shard and join in on the fun before fall ends, and the next Seasonal Champion starts!
[17:35] Atticus: can redo if you don't like that one.
[17:36] Adam Ant: nope, that's good .. ty :)
[17:36] Adam Ant: I may dress it up a bit
[17:53] Adam Ant: okay,, NOW you can say "uh oh" :P
[17:53] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=554741#Post554741)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=554741#Post554741
[17:55] Atticus: training a [companion], one sec
[17:55] Adam Ant: no hurry
[18:08] Atticus: all done.... [companion] staff templates would be win, btw :P
[18:09] Atticus: er, staff access... what ever its called
[18:14] Atticus: ehhh, that's a little TMI for all the houses, i think.
[18:15] Atticus: would probably be a lot more practical to just explain that all houses start with 2 lockboxes/secures, no doors,  and include pics of what houses are available.
[18:15] Adam Ant: well, okay .. maybe 
[18:15] Atticus: and a couple links to the storage upgrades and door addons.
[18:15] Adam Ant: sure
[18:15] Adam Ant: I need to run .. my boy hurt his wrist at football today
[18:16] Adam Ant: I'll be on later from home
[18:16] Atticus: ok
[18:16] Atticus: hope he's ok
[18:16] Adam Ant: thanks
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Oct 03 17:11:53 2007
[17:12] Atticus: How's a mini event sound this afternoon? There's about 50 people on. I was thinking a lich spawn in cove 3, followed by a minorly beefy "lord guardian" (regular stats + 1000 virtual armor/150 magic resist)?
[17:14] Adam Ant: do you know how tough a LG is today?
[17:15] Atticus: Soloable?
[17:15] Adam Ant: not by a human
[17:15] Atticus: 3-4 tamers would smoosh him ;)
[17:15] Adam Ant: probably not by 3
[17:15] Adam Ant: before beefing something, you need to be really clear on what you're making
[17:16] Atticus: well, with virtual armor/resist his damage wont change, so he wont be a threat.
[17:16] Adam Ant: he's got a poisoned sword that doesn't quit
[17:16] Atticus: and if the group is smaller than anticipated, i can lower his armor/resist
[17:16] Adam Ant: what's the plan?
[17:17] Atticus: liches gathering in cove leaves lord brit uneasy, so he gathers his troops.
[17:17] Atticus: troops=players
[17:17] Atticus: players get there, kill spawn a bit, adam comes in to protect the lich.
[17:17] Atticus: or jade
[17:18] Adam Ant: players kill guardian?
[17:19] Atticus: aye... players kill guardian and the lands are safe yet again!
[17:19] Atticus: 
[17:19] Adam Ant: have you taken into account the kin system?
[17:20] Adam Ant: any events involving kin mobs need spoecial consideration
[17:20] Atticus: 
[17:21] Adam Ant: even then .. council aligned will be able to fight against players and be immune from attack
[17:21] Atticus: ya, both mini events like this i held were kin
[17:21] Atticus: brigand and orc
[17:21] Atticus: orcs showed up at the orc one and it was a blast ;)
[17:22] Adam Ant: yeah, I'm not saying it's good or bad .. only that YOU need to know
[17:22] Atticus: kin system is also why i'm not quick to host events in kin zone
[17:22] Atticus: ah, ok, well ya. I have it in mind at all times.
[17:22] Adam Ant: okay, go for it
[17:22] Atticus: sweet! gratsi
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[18:27] Atticus: all done ;)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Oct 04 16:06:53 2007
[16:28] Atticus: (Link: http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/FlanneryFlynn/Silverfox_10-4_1027.jpg)http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i136/FlanneryFlynn/Silverfox_10-4_1027.jpg
[16:29] Atticus: finished product for the arena/tavern basement, made by Silver Foxed.
[16:30] Adam Ant: is thie a house they are submitting?
[16:31] Atticus: We both are, ya. This is the building I was talking to you about for the cock fights i plan to host.
[16:31] Atticus: silver built it, i've been working with him for the past week or so.
[16:31] Adam Ant: standard 18x18?
[16:32] Atticus: should be, ya. I told him that from the start.
[16:32] Adam Ant: is is a custom house, or a GM built static
[16:34] Atticus: looks static, there's no foundation.
[16:36] Adam Ant: well.... see that sraircase?
[16:36] Atticus: ya
[16:36] Adam Ant: (on the outside)
[16:36] Atticus: was just looking at that... looks like it juts out past 18..]
[16:37] Adam Ant: I'm worried that's outside the 18x18
[16:37] Adam Ant: ois this on TC?
[16:37] Atticus: his private server, he's gonna send it to TC
[16:37] Adam Ant: okay .. but it won'ty convert if any of it is outsice 18x18
[16:38] Adam Ant: (and I don't want to waist my time on it if it is)
[16:38] Atticus: i'll get back to you.
[16:38] Adam Ant: that'sa a good 30-40 minutes of my time+ a TC restart, etc
[16:38] Atticus: when it gets merged to TC, will it be static?
[16:38] Atticus: or will i be able to change stuff?
[16:38] Adam Ant: yes until I convert it
[16:39] Adam Ant: I can leave uit static if you like
[16:39] Atticus: no, i think i'm gonna change some stuff around, if he doesnt mind.
[16:39] Adam Ant: but before it gors live, it will be a house
[16:39] Adam Ant: kk
[16:39] Atticus: just realized he ignored me on a couple things
[16:39] Atticus: .... artists :P
[16:40] Adam Ant: lol
[16:46] Atticus: so, if it's over 18x18 you can still merge it onto test, where i can fix it?
[16:47] Adam Ant: yes
[16:47] Atticus: ok, i'm gonna have him merge it then, and i'll fix it myself on test.
[16:47] Adam Ant: kk
[16:47] Atticus: just don't make it static yet, plz.
[16:48] Adam Ant: :p
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[13:52] Atticus: are those boxes supposed to be unpickable?
[13:53] Adam Ant: why do you ask? :p
[13:53] Atticus: that's what medwins saying in the thread where he's selling it, seemed like a bug.
[13:53] Atticus: well, oversight
[13:55] Adam Ant: why do you say that?
[13:56] Atticus: didnt seem like something you'd impliment.
[13:56] Atticus: guess it depends on just how rare they are, though.
[14:00] Adam Ant: please explain to me what you see as the down side to such a box
[14:00] Atticus: cheap secure container for the house, but that depends on how rare it is.
[14:15] Atticus: oh, i was thinking ... For the "Whacky Champ".... How about I theme it a little and make it the halloween event... sound cool?
[14:17] Adam Ant: sure
[14:19] Atticus: ok, i'll probably do it the saturday or sunday before
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[16:51] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555345#Post555345)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555345#Post555345
[17:00] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555352#Post555352)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555352#Post555352
[17:38] Atticus: i have input, but my grandmas here.
[17:38] Atticus: i'll get back to you after i eat.
[17:40] Adam Ant: okay, see you then
[18:01] Atticus: ok, did you see my most recent thread in the staff forum?
[18:03] Adam Ant: probably not
[18:03] Adam Ant: should I go read it?
[18:04] Atticus: sure... might give some ideas
[18:04] Adam Ant: before I go do that .. can you give me a hint what we are talking about? I'm busy and don't have a lot of time
[18:05] Atticus: well, the biggest thing i see wrong with your idea is it will require a lot of work from the playerbase... and trust me, it's not easy getting them to work together... i've tried.
[18:05] Atticus: but, it will be up to them to get our name, and get the "test style" server wars known to everyone.
[18:06] Atticus: and to get them to do that, you'll have to have incentive.... What I suggest in the thread I made today was to have a "drive for 200"
[18:06] Atticus: we urge players to get people to log in on a designated day, and on that day, if we reach that goal, we put 1 special item in 1 bank of each players account
[18:07] Adam Ant: wait .. don't takeoff on the "drive for 200" idea
[18:07] Adam Ant: I'm not ready to walk away from the other idea until I understand your point
[18:07] Adam Ant: yous said: well, the biggest thing i see wrong with your idea is it will require a lot of work from the playerbase... and trust me, it's not easy getting them to work together... i've tried.
[18:07] Adam Ant: please explain thatr bit
[18:08] Atticus: "Kadulls super, mega, ultra big recruitment project"
[18:08] Atticus: I've been trying to get people to work together to advertise the shard since my first couple months here, long before i opened [NEW].
[18:09] Atticus: getting people to help with kadulls project = getting people to work together.
[18:09] Adam Ant: you're assuming I want players to do something
[18:09] Atticus: No, i'm assuming the test center thing wont work UNLESS we get people to help.
[18:09] Adam Ant: don't assume
[18:09] Adam Ant: :p
[18:09] Atticus: if we don't make it known to everyone that the test thing is happening, it will be nothing more than 1 hour out of everyones week that annoys PVMers
[18:10] Adam Ant: my plan was to send a mass email telling folks to come check us out during server wars
[18:10] Atticus: and to get the word around, people need to spread the word around
[18:10] Atticus: Don't the emails go to people that already know about the shard?
[18:11] Adam Ant: I have a database of close to 6K active emails .. these are folks that knew about us once, but moved on
[18:11] Atticus: right, so it's good to have that to inform people of new things, but they've already gotten those emails.
[18:13] Atticus: they know whats in, and have tested it.
[18:13] Atticus: tried it out, and moved on again.
[18:14] Atticus: we need a jump start with some fresh blood.
[18:22] Atticus: and i think the easy testing is incentive enough to draw that fresh blood in, but there needs to be incentive to get players to go out there and find the new blood.
[18:22] Adam Ant: how do we do that?
[18:23] Atticus: the drive...
[18:23] Atticus: make a nice clean proposal that says "on this day we will have test center features enabled for new players to try us out, but it will be reverted later."
[18:24] Atticus: then, setup a tier reward system for those logged in that helped raise the pop.... "if by X:00 we have 80 people on, we'll reward everyone that is logged in at that time with X gift. If we have 100 people we'll reward with X and Y, if we have 150, we'll give x,y, and z"
[18:25] Adam Ant: eww
[18:25] Adam Ant: I slammed Gamers for offering 'loggin rewards"
[18:25] Atticus: tricky part
[18:25] Atticus: ya, would be to limit multi clienting/cheating.
[18:26] Adam Ant: because, wether I say it or not, that will be an invitation to Robot accounts
[18:26] Adam Ant: we will get killed in the press dude
[18:26] Adam Ant: I don't like gifts for loging
[18:26] Atticus: is there any way to add 1 item to each IP's bank?
[18:26] Adam Ant: player yes, account, not IP
[18:27] Adam Ant: still tho .. gifts for login's looks bad 
[18:27] Adam Ant: cheesy
[18:27] Adam Ant: and cheap
[18:27] Atticus: well, the idea is gifts for recruiting, i'm not for gifts for multiclienting either.
[18:28] Adam Ant: you know that and I know that, but that's not how it will be protrayed
[18:28] Adam Ant: then someone will pull up the posts where I slammed the other shards for doing it
[18:28] Atticus: well, we DO have the new multiclienting stuff....
[18:29] Adam Ant: [16:27] Atticus: well, the idea is gifts for recruiting, i'm not for gifts for multiclienting either.
 [16:28] Adam Ant: you know that and I know that, but that's not how it will be protrayed
[18:31] Atticus: what problems could come from booting multi clienters that day?
[18:31] Adam Ant: you don't seem to be hearing my point :p
[18:32] Atticus: If we make it clear we don't want this to be a cheap tactic to present a fake ticker, and [kick people who ignore that
[18:32] Atticus: it might prove our intentions.
[18:32] Adam Ant: *slaps*
[18:32] Atticus: or is it the "logging in" all together?
[18:32] Atticus: and not the multi clienting?
[18:32] Adam Ant: listen.... those that WANT to hurt us will have all the ammo they need if we did that
[18:33] Adam Ant: I have spoken out LOUDLY on it against the other shards
[18:33] Adam Ant: I would he a Hypocrite
[18:33] Adam Ant: get it?
[18:33] Adam Ant: big time
[18:33] Adam Ant: something I said I would NEVER do
[18:34] Adam Ant: one of the founding principals of the shard
[18:34] Atticus: What is it about the other shards you didn't approve of exactly? Them giving players stuff for logging in alone? Or the fact that they were obviously promoting multi clienting to fake the ticker?
[18:34] Adam Ant: both
[18:35] Atticus: ah, i always thought it was just the multi clienting.
[18:36] Adam Ant: even if you only promoted logging in, it would be *taken to mean* multi-account
[18:36] Adam Ant: and we would spend the next 6 weeks explaining ourselves ... 
[18:36] Adam Ant: and trying to prove ourselves with bans and such
[18:36] Adam Ant: it's a mess 
[18:36] Atticus: right, but we could prove that's not what we meant by [kicking people who -mc'd. But it's beside the point because you dont like the idea of incentive to log in anyways.
[18:37] Adam Ant: right
[18:39] Atticus: well, the test thing is still worth a shot, but i wouldn't do it weekly.
[18:39] Atticus: at most, i'd say bi-weekly. Server wars are a big  turn off to PVMers and RPers, and basically everyone but PVPers
[18:39] Adam Ant: kk, I'm looking at folding it into the existing--once a month--server wars
[18:40] Atticus: other thing: the event.
[18:40] Atticus: the concept sounds fun, but seems like they want  to give out a butt load of rares.
[18:41] Atticus: on a side note:
[18:41] Atticus: Great Apollo= Cure
[18:41] Atticus: and if he's showing an interest in this sort of thing, it might be a good idea to toss him an invite... start him off reporting again, then see if he'd be interested in learning a couple seer things.
[18:42] Adam Ant: but the rares are all rehued clothes, and no new graphics
[18:42] Atticus: that's true.
[18:42] Adam Ant: anywho .. I need to run off to dinner .. have a look and see if we're interested
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[14:01] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555486/Main/46488/#Post555486)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555486/Main/46488/#Post555486
[14:03] Adam Ant: I replied!
[14:04] Atticus: well, i'll probably stick to just apollo, instead of both of them.
[14:04] Atticus: apollo has been on staff before, and lucky is a genuine nazi.
[14:05] Atticus: figured hiring a known "nigger hater" wouldn't be in our best interest :P
[14:13] Adam Ant: ya
[14:13] Adam Ant: want to proof my mass email?
[14:14] Atticus: sure
[14:14] Adam Ant: kk, gibe me 5
[14:14] Atticus: alright, i'll PM apollo while you write it.
[14:14] Adam Ant: kk
[14:19] Adam Ant: The Cross Shard Challenge! 
  
 This Sunday (tomorrow) 10/7/07 the usually scheduled Server Wars on Angel Island has been enhanced with full Test Center functionality. This means that you can simply show up, login a new character, get all the gold and supplies you need, Set Skill, and head to our PvP hotspot Dungeon Wrong for an hour of PvP madness. All NPCs that sell weapons and armor will be selling Exceptional items of Fortification for the duration of Server Wars. 
  
 This will be and ongoing Cross Shard event held on the 1st Sunday of every month. If it’s a big success, we may extend it as appropriate to accommodate any increased demand. 
  
 As is the case for all Server Wars, there will be no server saves, and so the server will revert back to pre Server War status. (All items and accounts created during Server Wars will be deleted.) 
  
 Even if you’re happy with your current Player Run Shard, I hope you will take this opportunity to mix-it-up with some PvP’ers that you may not know .. some of which may just kick your ass ;) 
  
 As always; this is a Bob griefing, Player Killing, PvP madhouse.  
 If you are pregnant, have a bad back, or are too old and decrepit to appreciate such things, this may not be the ride for you. 
  
 Angel Island, what UO was meant to be. 
 Adam Ant and the Angel Island team. 
 
[14:22] Atticus: changing the first has to "have" will make it flow better, and i'd change "have a bad back" to "suffer from motion sickness," to exagerate the madness of the PVP described.
[14:24] Atticus: other than that it looks pretty clean.
[14:24] Atticus: here's my PM to apollo:
[14:24] Atticus: Hey hey! First of all, we all really appreciate your effort in helping by sending in your event proposal, which I like quite a lot. It's nice and simple to run, and I think players would like it. The thing is... it's strikingly similar to an event I've been working on for quite a while and just finished. 
  
 That's not to say it will never be hosted, I just don't want to host 2 story arc events with similar plots so close to each other, but I will likely host your event some day. 
  
 Moving on! Again, I greatly appreciate you sending in that event, but what I could really use more than anything right now is a little help in actually hosting and reporting on events. 
  
 Is that something you think you'd enjoy? Helping out with events?
[14:26] Adam Ant: yep, nice
[14:26] Adam Ant: *email sent*
[14:27] Atticus: *PM sent*
[14:27] Adam Ant: tomorrow's the first Server Wars with TC functionality
[14:27] Atticus: ....
[14:27] Atticus: guess that means i better launch Kad's AIM list.
[14:28] Adam Ant: :)
[14:29] Adam Ant: one way to couch it is: We're not trying to make you leave your current shard, just kick off a cross shard massive battle
[14:29] Atticus: my thoughts exactly.
[14:44] Atticus: hmm, i might have to look into cowboy.
[14:44] Atticus: seems he reported someone for calling me a nigger yesterday.
[14:51] Adam Ant: you need to look into cowboy for reporting someone?
[14:51] Adam Ant: wouldn't you look into the other person? 
[14:51] Adam Ant: or are you saying 'maybe he's ok'
[14:51] Atticus: no, to look into his naziness and see if he's suitable for staff.
[14:51] Atticus: ya.
[14:51] Adam Ant: kk
[14:52] Atticus: not sure how to go about that discreetly, though.
[14:53] Adam Ant: well, pull him to jain and talk turky wuth him
[14:53] Adam Ant: :P
[14:54] Atticus: "Gabble gabble "niggers" gabble?"
[14:54] Adam Ant: I need to run to the bank .. I'm putting the neighborhood kids to work!
[14:54] Atticus: ok ;)
[14:54] Adam Ant: lol, 
[14:54] Adam Ant: btw, it's gobble, not 'gabble'! (newb)
[14:55] Atticus: that's what i meant... all 3 times...
[14:55] Atticus: eye sware :P
[16:24] Adam Ant: come to me on TC to see the arena
[16:24] Atticus: what arena?
[16:24] Adam Ant: the chicken fight
[16:24] Atticus: oh, right.
[16:26] Adam Ant: I've converted it from an Addon to 'static' so that you can edit it .. it's not however a 'StaticHouse' (which cannot be edited)
[16:26] Atticus: ok
[16:27] Atticus: thanks a lot ;)
[16:27] Adam Ant: mp
[16:27] Atticus: when can i host a cock fight?
[16:28] Atticus: also, what breaks when the house is over 18x18?
[16:29] Adam Ant: the tool
[16:30] Adam Ant: (the tool that generates the houses)
[16:30] Atticus: hmm
[16:30] Adam Ant: The system is based on (for client compatibility reasons) that standard plot sizes
[16:30] Adam Ant: all static houses must fit on a standard plot
[16:31] Adam Ant: (even if there is no visable plot)
[16:37] Atticus: ok
[16:38] Atticus: i have a lot of work to do on this.... i dont know why he didn't just use the one i said i liked the most...
[16:38] Atticus: grr
[16:43] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555518#Post555518)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555518#Post555518
[16:43] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555515#Post555515)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555515#Post555515
[16:44] Atticus: good to hear
[18:16] Atticus: ok, apollo doesn't have time he says.
[18:16] Atticus: so, here's what I'd like to post to try to find a reporter.... I'll have a writeup of the event i hope to host for this later, but it will likely be the one you setup the pirate ship for:
[18:16] Atticus: Hey folks! Some of you lucky enough to be in game at the right time might have noticed a couple sporadic events the past couple weeks; some of you, however, might have no idea the shard even had an active Seer! This is because there's currently no reporters on staff to post the outcomes of these events. 
  
 So, with all that said, I would like to hire on a reporter to help me with publishing event reports on the boards. 
  
 [u][b]Sweet! How do I apply?[/b][/u] 
  
 What I'll be doing is hosting an event and those who so desire to apply will be required to write up a full news report and send it to me VIA PM. 
  
 You in that PM you should also include what time zone you live in, and what your availability and schedule is like. 
  
 I'll then review ALL reports and choose the one I like best, post it as the report for that event, and get you all setup to better help report future events!  
  
 I wish you all good luck to all of you and look forward to reading your drafts!
[18:17] Atticus: gotta touch up a couple typos, though :P
[18:18] Adam Ant: looks good .. make sure to tell them picts, and the ability to crop (etc.) is required
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[14:04] Atticus: hey, can I dupe a bunch of weapons from my player account to use as rewards for an event?
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[15:54] Atticus: 2 questions: Can I dupe a bunch of weapons from my player account to use as rewards for an event? And what does the "Thief AI" do?
[16:01] Adam Ant: maybe, and not sure
[16:01] Adam Ant: I think we did some early tests with thief AI, but it wasn't functional/crashed
[16:01] Atticus: hmm, ok.
[21:16] Atticus: any objection to setting the sparkles at brit west to go to wrong?
[21:31] Adam Ant: np, please
[21:32] Atticus: already did, actually. Didn't know if you were gonna get on and there's loads of requests to get to wrong.
[21:33] Adam Ant: okay, thanks :)
[21:33] Adam Ant: not a bad turn out
[21:33] Atticus: nope, not at all
[21:33] Adam Ant: I think I saw 68?
[21:33] Atticus: i didn't see that.
[21:33] Atticus: saw about 55
[21:34] Atticus: res gate?
[21:34] Adam Ant: no, there's a healer there
[21:34] Adam Ant: and there are no murder counts
[21:34] Atticus: I think someone killed the healer
[21:34] Atticus: oh, nm
[22:12] Atticus: ok, i'm out for the night.
[22:28] Adam Ant: night!
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[14:53] Adam Ant: :(
[14:53] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.shadowclan.org/darkmoot/viewtopic.php?p=447063&sid=a2505df3455a0da63150c1e767227caf)http://www.shadowclan.org/darkmoot/viewtopic.php?p=447063&sid=a2505df3455a0da63150c1e767227caf
[14:53] Atticus: ya, i know.
[14:53] Atticus: that was a huge hit.
[14:54] Atticus: They'll come back some day, though. A guild that size, that was around for as long as it was...
[14:54] Atticus: almost impossible for it to be gone for ever, someone will eventually get the ball rolling.
[14:55] Adam Ant: It's too bad really ... I'm hoping for renewed interest .. but we may have to wait a while for it .. we're in the middle of some generational shift and I'm not so sure there is a lot we can do about it.
[14:56] Atticus: well, laghed said somewhere that he'd be back when factions came in.
[14:56] Atticus: not sure if he meant WITH sc.
[14:56] Adam Ant: yes, I've not given up hope
[14:56] Adam Ant: I do recognize that we (and app PRSs) are going through a change
[14:57] Atticus: well, the lower we let the low point of this "change" sink, the harder it will be to crawl back up.
[14:58] Atticus: just not entirely sure how to help it.
[14:58] Atticus: one thing someone mentioned to me yesterday was starting newbs off with my ICQ number, or locking the [new] info book somewhere in the bank. That might help a bit.
[14:59] Atticus: getting players in a neutral guild and giving them people to interact with does a lot for retention. I see a lot of newbies running around that were in [new] even now. I just don't have time to sit at the bank, or run around finding recruits any more.
[14:59] Adam Ant: what about having everyone start at WBB like we used to do
[14:59] Adam Ant: ?
[14:59] Atticus: that could work, too. Then I could setup a macro on atti and leave him there.
[14:59] Atticus: with my ICQ number..
[15:00] Adam Ant: Can you write all of this up?
[15:00] Atticus: the [new] book?
[15:00] Adam Ant: Also, we can Add a [New] book to each backpack...
[15:00] Adam Ant: all of it
[15:00] Atticus: it's already written.
[15:00] Adam Ant: the starting in WBB to
[15:00] Adam Ant: also include the complete text of the [new] book
[15:01] Adam Ant: including, website and ICQ info
[15:01] Adam Ant: and maybe a rune to the new tower?
[15:01] Adam Ant: whatever .. make me an SR
[15:01] Atticus: that'd rock.
[15:02] Atticus: sure, i'll have it up in 5 minutes
[15:19] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555852#Post555852)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=555852#Post555852
[15:27] Adam Ant: how about auto adding them to new? that way thery get the tag?
[15:28] Adam Ant: You would have to be diligent about booting abusers
[15:28] Adam Ant: (thos thaty join to kill newbs)
[15:28] Adam Ant: I could also base it on account age
[15:28] Atticus: could you add an IP check to it?
[15:29] Adam Ant: yes, please add those two elements to the SR
[15:29] Atticus: and make it easily revertable? I'm willing to do it, and i think i have enough help for it right now (i have like 6 [companions] trying to help atm.
[15:29] Atticus: but even with that help, something like that can quickly get out of hand....
[15:30] Adam Ant: You shopuld also post in the staff foprum that [new] is becoming a cross-over guild .. that is, staff sponsored 
[15:31] Atticus: also, it will be really important to make sure i can still edit their tags and all that. I'll need full guildmaster functionality still.
[15:31] Atticus: as their tags are how i manage the guildstone... i set their tags to their "release date."
[15:31] Adam Ant: you should give some thoughts to the implications and issues with that .. so for now, indicate that ahe only benifit to players will be auto adding to the stone .. and that your player character is resopinsible for any 'gifts'
[15:32] Adam Ant: Also, make a clear note that is this contrayy to the separation of Staff and Player accounts, and a special exception for [New] will be written up and ammended to the Staff Guidelines
[15:32] Adam Ant: (which you will write and I will approve)
[15:33] Adam Ant: I can set their TAG to some "Unreviwed" status
[15:33] Adam Ant: and that shou;d help you locate the new additions
[15:34] Adam Ant: if you like the idea of a special tag for auto added players, please add that to the SR
[15:35] Atticus: ok
[15:35] Atticus: this will be a huge help, thanks a lot adam.
[15:49] Atticus: ok, all set.
[16:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555852/Main/46536/#Post555852)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555852/Main/46536/#Post555852
[16:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555860/Main/555860/#Post555860)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/555860/Main/555860/#Post555860
[16:16] Adam Ant: I'm confused...
[16:16] Adam Ant: Why are you still asking for a tag like "new" ot "young", when we talked about just adding them to the New stone?
[16:18] Atticus: Because of the limitations on the IP check.
[16:18] Atticus: It's not that important, so if it's more work than you think it's worth, you can ignore it.
[16:18] Adam Ant: well, I want the SR to bve exactly accurate
[16:18] Adam Ant: not "you can do this or you can do that"
[16:19] Adam Ant: an SR is a workorder that reflects work to be done
[16:19] Adam Ant: it should also not contain the rules for NEW that goes elswthere
[16:19] Atticus: that's for the book.
[16:19] Adam Ant: What I want in the SR is the the action items for the developer (me), not reasons and other fluff
[16:20] Adam Ant: oh, ok
[16:20] Adam Ant: for the book ,,, fine
[16:20] Adam Ant: please redo the 'tag' part
[16:20] Atticus: everything after the [list][/list] goes in the book
[16:20] Adam Ant: I want it to say we auto add them to the guild, and I want it to say what guild title I give them
[16:22] Adam Ant: I then want you to create a post to forum for staff that describes the [New] guild and how it interacts with staff ,.. limitations, and staff involvement
[16:22] Atticus: is it possible and practical to make their title the date of 2 weeks after they join?
[16:22] Adam Ant: yes
[16:22] Atticus: so say they joined today, their title would be 10/22
[16:22] Adam Ant: yes
[16:23] Adam Ant: so say precicly how you want that text to appear
[16:23] Adam Ant: (in the SR)
[17:40] Adam Ant: and when I auto add a new [NEW] member, auto send a guild message to the effect?
[17:40] Adam Ant: or maybe the GM .. or the guild of the GM is not online?
[18:02] Atticus: Just GM sounds good.
[18:02] Adam Ant: what if he's (you) are not online?
[18:03] Atticus: hmm, put it in a queue?
[18:03] Adam Ant: I was not referring to a gm=game-master, I meant the GM of [New]
[18:03] Adam Ant: remember, we do not want to couple this too closly with styaff
[18:04] Atticus: right, i know. If the queue isn't practical, then i'd say it not be sent
[18:04] Atticus: if i'm not on.
[18:04] Adam Ant: from the Stone, I can add names, set the title, and notify folks
[18:04] Adam Ant: is there a guild queue?
[18:04] Atticus: what about make it announce in guild chat, and have some way to document the guild chat so i can review it when needed?
[18:05] Adam Ant: I was suggesting broadcasting it to guild chat
[18:06] Adam Ant: the GM (you if available), or guild chat of you are not on
[18:06] Adam Ant: (I'me trying not to invent new systems)
[18:06] Adam Ant: but leverage the systems that are already in place.
[18:06] Atticus: not trying to get you to, if it's not practical that's ok.
[18:06] Atticus: GM when I'm on and guild chat when i'm not sounds ok
[18:07] Adam Ant: okay, if you could update the SR .. :p
[18:07] Atticus: ok
[18:09] Atticus: done, figured just go with guild  chat.
[18:09] Adam Ant: kk
[19:31] Adam Ant: get me the [where coords for the [NEW] tower so I can setup the rune
[19:31] Adam Ant: (please :))
[19:31] Atticus: are you already working on all this?
[19:32] Adam Ant: I thought I would start on it..
[19:32] Atticus: lag
[19:33] Atticus: 1688 1422 0
[19:33] Adam Ant: ty
[19:34] Adam Ant: what should the label read (exactly)
[19:34] Atticus: [NEW] Tower
[19:34] Adam Ant: kk
[19:35] Atticus: could I get an ETA on when this will be done and merged?
[19:37] Atticus: not asking out of impatience, i just want setup a couple precautions before this all goes live
[19:37] Adam Ant: we should be testing it tomorrow
[19:38] Atticus: mainly setup a township stone before someone else does and set's it to no count
[19:38] Atticus: ok, gotta work fast then
[19:38] Adam Ant: well, you shouldn't have to pay for that
[19:38] Adam Ant: we'll talk about ways to block a township atound your tower
[19:39] Atticus: i don't really "pay" for anything :P
[19:39] Atticus: [new] is run off of donations and money i steal on kadull
[19:40] Atticus: :P
[19:40] Atticus: guess others might like the donation money to be spent better, though.
[19:40] Adam Ant: a township is expensive, I can create a simple 1x1 region to block a township
[19:41] Atticus: in the whole area, though?
[19:41] Atticus: newbies hunt the brigands NW of the tower, and the spawn SE of it.
[19:42] Adam Ant: lets talk about the details later .. my point is that I can block townships for [new] without cost
[19:42] Atticus: ok :P
[19:48] Adam Ant: can I give you another task?
[19:48] Atticus: sure
[19:49] Adam Ant: I'm planning on dressing newbs better (maybe loosing the robe and hat), and having them 'recall' to WBB .. this will make it hard to griefers tell who is the newb and who is not
[19:50] Atticus: what do you mean "recall" to wbb?
[19:50] Adam Ant: with the sound effect
[19:50] Atticus: ah
[19:51] Adam Ant: and to randome locations around WBB
[19:51] Atticus: wont the big [10/22, New] over their head kind of throw tip people off?
[19:51] Adam Ant: lol
[19:51] Adam Ant: yeah, I guess it would
[19:52] Adam Ant: see, this is why I need you aropund ;p
[19:52] Adam Ant: but .. it won't ne clear they JUST started
[19:54] Atticus: sorry had to go afk
[19:55] Atticus: ok, so what is it you want me to do?
[19:56] Adam Ant: I was going to have you come up with a new look .. I think removing the robe and hat will be a good start, but what else?
[19:56] Atticus: and keep in mind, the clothes you get from starting skills are widely used.
[19:57] Adam Ant: the pants and shirt are setup at creation time
[19:57] Atticus: you only get the robe when you start with magery, alchemy, animal lore or animal taming
[19:58] Atticus: floppy hat from fishing, cloak from stealing, hiding, spirit speak, etc.
[19:58] Adam Ant: changing that is too fundamental to UO do you think?
[19:58] Atticus: ya... as small as it is i think it will hurt the feel
[19:58] Adam Ant: kk
[19:58] Atticus: and annoy players more than it will help anything
[19:58] Adam Ant: kk
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[22:19] Atticus: who'd you want to SR assigned to?
[22:19] Adam Ant: Pezi
[22:20] Adam Ant: I don't want a new barrell .. but to ehnance the existing ones with the same delayed delete behavior now found in houses
[22:28] Atticus: ok, all set.
[22:28] Adam Ant: thanks :)
[22:30] Atticus: np. i'm off for the night. laterz
[22:30] Adam Ant: night
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[20:41] Adam Ant: 55 users .. nothing to write home about .. but we seem to have stopped the freefall
[20:42] Atticus: ya, server wars seemed to boost things a little bit
[20:42] Adam Ant: I thought so too, but I sisn't want to say :p
[20:43] Atticus: :P
[20:44] Atticus: i tried advertising it.... i IMed about 300 people that were online, but i checked the thread and it didn't recieve a lot of hits
[20:45] Atticus: trying to think up a few events for the halloween weekend.
[20:46] Adam Ant: pumpkin hunt!
[20:46] Adam Ant: our classic event!
[20:46] Atticus: ya, was wondering about that.
[20:46] Atticus: how did the tallying/reward work exactly?
[20:46] Adam Ant: it's pretty much a science
[20:46] Atticus: if i remember, more pumpkins got better rewards?
[20:47] Adam Ant: no, fewer :P
[20:47] Atticus: why fewers?
[20:47] Atticus: i found a thread outlining a couple specifics, but not all of them.
[20:47] Adam Ant: lol
[20:47] Adam Ant: *smacks*
[20:48] Atticus: mainly lacked in how rewarding worked
[20:48] Atticus: damn it :P why are you smacking me?
[20:48] Adam Ant: because of course more pumpkins is a better prize
[20:48] Adam Ant: lol
[20:49] Atticus: don't toy with me, magician.
[20:49] Adam Ant: look in you sock
[20:49] Atticus: fuck you, david blaine!
[20:49] Adam Ant: !
[20:49] Atticus: ;)
[20:50] Atticus: so, how did the tickets work? Didn't everyone get a ticket? or did some players get something else?
[20:50] Adam Ant: so, ya .. we use a template spawner to spawn a fixed abount of special pumpkins in a set range
[20:50] Atticus: right, found that. the spawners still setup
[20:50] Adam Ant: they HAD to come back stacked
[20:51] Adam Ant: (or we refuse to take them)
[20:51] Adam Ant: then there was a 1st , 2nd, and 3rd prize...
[20:51] Adam Ant: dinner!
[20:51] Adam Ant: brb
[20:51] Atticus: ok
[21:09] Adam Ant: back
[21:10] Atticus: ok
[21:10] Atticus: so wasn't there an NPC, also?
[21:11] Adam Ant: no
[21:11] Adam Ant: well, yes
[21:11] Adam Ant: Hennar mad himself into 'halloween hennarr' .. an orange skeleton
[21:11] Adam Ant: but we never did it untill then
[21:11] Atticus: right. could swear there was some sort of npc there, though
[21:12] Atticus: guess not, though.
[21:12] Atticus: ok, so so far we got monster bash and pumpkin hunt.
[21:12] Adam Ant: :)
[21:13] Atticus: other thing i was thinking is adding special spawns around the land that drop a special item for a day or 2. Just havn't figured out what spawns and items, yet.
[21:13] Adam Ant: if you can dig up the lists of gifts we gave for halloween, that would be helpful
[21:13] Adam Ant: (not tonight)
[21:14] Adam Ant: but before the event so we can get those all lined up
[21:14] Atticus: ok, i can do that.
[21:14] Atticus: use the same gifts as last year?
[21:15] Adam Ant: yes, or from the year before, or a halloween deco contest .. basically
[21:16] Adam Ant: that should get you started .. then if you want to add a couple, that would be okay too
[21:16] Atticus: Did jades halloween costumes ever get added after halloween?
[21:17] Adam Ant: nope
[21:18] Adam Ant: it requires engineering
[21:18] Atticus: bummer.
[21:19] Atticus: I'll think of something for the spawn stuff i have in mind, try to make it a busy weekend.
[21:20] Atticus: Did burly ever talk to you?
[21:25] Adam Ant: ever?
[21:26] Adam Ant: yes :p
[21:26] Adam Ant: lately?
[21:26] Adam Ant: nope
[21:38] Atticus: any way to control what a monster will drop in his pack as a seer? 
[21:39] Atticus: not brigands and such...
[21:57] Adam Ant: no, that's the shortcoming of the template spawners
[21:57] Adam Ant: you can manually add it tho .. by hand
[21:58] Atticus: ya, was looking for it to spawn with it.
[21:58] Adam Ant: but you can't do it in an automated way
[21:59] Atticus: my suggestion for if you ever get around to working on spawners again: add a "backpack" feature so any items added will spawn in the pack 100% of the time, and a "special item" feature that allows you to set the % chance of x item droping on the mob
[22:00] Adam Ant: yep .. known as 'loot packs'
[22:00] Atticus: they already on the drawing board?
[22:01] Atticus: or is that what they're called in the code for mob drops?
[22:24] Adam Ant: well, we've talked about them ;p
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[12:28] Adam Ant: so yeah .. I'm having trouble with freely attackable 'clause of  guild membership WRT auto enrolling players in the New Guild
 so I'm not moving forward with that until I can resolve it somehow
[12:59] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.shadowclan.org/darkmoot/viewtopic.php?p=450341#450341)http://www.shadowclan.org/darkmoot/viewtopic.php?p=450341#450341
[13:31] Atticus: wait, what?
[13:32] Atticus: no more auto addition to [new]?
[13:32] Adam Ant: the plan was to automatically add new players to the NEW guild .. that's what I was working on
[13:33] Adam Ant: I then became nervous when I thought of how easy it wouild be to grief new players that way (freely attackable by other NEW members)
[13:33] Atticus: everyone can just resign, though. And the items and such they will be using are given to them by me and the rest of the community.
[13:34] Atticus: I'm not saying it wont happen, i just think it's the way that holds the most potential to make a difference, too.
[13:35] Atticus: if it doesn't work and things get out of hand, we can always try something new, maybe gumshoes idea.
[13:35] Adam Ant: and his was?
[13:36] Atticus: to auto add them to the candidate list
[13:36] Atticus: would it be possible to add them to the candidate list, and also give them access to the [new] guild chat, without giving them them the flagging benefits?
[13:39] Adam Ant: well if we're .... what's your phone number
[13:39] Adam Ant: I'll call
[13:39] Atticus: my phone is fucked, and i can't get a new one till next month.
[13:39] Atticus: 
[13:40] Atticus: 
[13:41] Adam Ant: would it be possible to add them to the candidate list, and also give them access to the Atti ==> [new] guild chat, without giving them them the flagging benefits?
[13:41] Adam Ant: that's coding / design .. and on a player owned guild
[13:42] Atticus: didn't know how guild chat worked. gotta remember, i know justabout nothing about coding.
[13:42] Adam Ant: --> without giving them them the flagging benefits?
[13:43] Adam Ant: do candidates to a guild get a tag today?
[13:43] Adam Ant: Do they see guild chat today?
[13:43] Atticus: no, they're not part of the guild.
[13:43] Adam Ant: if not, it's a code change
[13:44] Adam Ant: if we *must* write code, I don't want to hack a player owned guild .. I would make [NEW] and official shard owned guild with special features
[13:44] Adam Ant: (no flagging)
[13:44] Adam Ant: maybe move the stone to the Counselors guild .. and have it admined by staff
[13:48] Atticus: i still think auto adding would be the best way to go for now. With how beneficial [new] was even without any help like that, i think it's worth the risk.
[13:48] Atticus: mainly because the community has always respected it, and left us alone.
[13:49] Atticus: there's been less than a handfull of griefers... it's always either coby seagram or stroms little brother, and that's about it.
[13:50] Adam Ant: my fear is that as soon as someone logis in and see he was auto added to a guild (full of newbies) he will immediatly connect the 'how to grief dots'
[13:50] Adam Ant: it's very different than what exists today
[13:51] Atticus: but everyone was always free to join, anyways.
[13:51] Adam Ant: if I was an ass and wanted to drive players FROM AI, I would create a new character and kill newbs as soon as they appeared (green) to me
[13:51] Atticus: which has happened. They get booted by the end of the day.
[13:51] Adam Ant: it removed guard protection
[13:51] Adam Ant: but required manual intervention ... I can grief FAR faster thasn you react
[13:51] Adam Ant: and rejoin
[13:52] Adam Ant: at least now you need to decide to add them
[13:52] Atticus: hm. maybe make it only add 1 character per account?
[13:53] Adam Ant: well,  .. I need to think about this ,.. while I love the idea .. and the benifits .. there is a gaping hole that's a killer
[13:53] Atticus: I'm not saying this all out of ignorance, i've put a good hundred+ (maybe closer to 200) people on the stone and graduated them from the guild.
[13:54] Adam Ant: but ALL of those people were there to learn about the shard and because they were new...
[13:54] Atticus: not saying it isn't risky, either. Just worth a shot
[13:54] Adam Ant: the system we are talking aboput will spawn a whole NEW breed of griefer
[13:54] Adam Ant: (forward looking)
[13:54] Adam Ant: it needs more thought
[13:55] Adam Ant: the hole is just too big
[14:03] Atticus: well, i don't really agree. Yea, it will definately be griefed here and there, but players will still have the option to resign from the guild, or avoid the griefer when they res. The shards playerbase is on a huge decline, and this will most likely help a lot more than it will hurt
[14:04] Atticus: like i said the thread in staff forum, picture a line expanding. It might stop expanding, but not decline, because it's the incoming players, that are leaving after a moment on the shard anyways right now
[14:04] Adam Ant: you're not looking at the bobliness of the system
[14:04] Atticus: i am.
[14:04] Adam Ant: you are looking at the good it's done in the pas
[14:04] Adam Ant: *past
[14:04] Atticus: right, and the affect it's had on the bobliness.
[14:05] Adam Ant: but the bobliness factor is a 10 on a scale from 1-10 :P
[14:05] Atticus: i've seen players join the guild, then go off in guild chat about "this shard sucks. blah blah." then have another newb defend the shard because it's "friendly, etc," then turn around and grief when they get out
[14:07] Atticus: i mean, there's 20 people on right now. The newbs that log in and see that are going to log out right away anyways. It couldn't hurt to try something bold, that holds huge potential.
[14:08] Adam Ant: again, you're liging in the past good NEW has done .. please put that aside. My point is very simple: 1, there is a class of players the LOVE to grief. 2. Auto adding gives these Griefers a FREE way to A grief, and B. hurt the shard all at the same time. If this comes to be, it's WORSE then the current newb expirience becayse they were killed legelly (all in the name of trying to help)
[14:08] Adam Ant: *living
[14:08] Adam Ant: the system is good IF we remove flagging
[14:09] Adam Ant: if we removeed flaging, I would go for it
[14:09] Atticus: but can you remove flagging initially and make it possible for me to grant it per request?
[14:10] Atticus: actually
[14:11] Atticus: there's mercs and stuff they can train on.
[14:11] Atticus: and removing flagging will remove more of the desire for vets to get in and try to grief...
[14:12] Atticus: ok, screw it. let's do that. Definately better than nothing.
[14:12] Adam Ant: so, let's get on the same page
[14:12] Adam Ant: your argument to me should be this...
[14:12] Adam Ant: :p
[14:12] Atticus: auto add to the guild, but remove flagging.
[14:13] Adam Ant: "Adam, can you add a flag to the guildstone to toggle Friendly-fire (green) flagging?"
[14:14] Adam Ant: yesm but remember, I won't make a one-off hack just for NEW .. it would need to be a generic system available to all guilds .. or at a minimum, a freture that can be turned on by a GM
[14:15] Atticus: NEW isn't really a guild, though. It uses the guildstone, but it's far more of a hub for donations to go to newbies and train them than it is a guild.
[14:15] Atticus: it just 'abuses' the guild system, currently.
[14:15] Adam Ant: code is code
[14:15] Adam Ant: it must be applied to something
[14:16] Adam Ant: what do I apply the code to?
[14:16] Atticus: ah, i see.
[14:16] Adam Ant: I must apply it to the guild system
[14:16] Adam Ant: you are thinking from an "I need" standpoint .. I need to consider it from an architectural standpoint
[14:17] Atticus: i thought you were coming from a "people will bitch" standpoint
[14:17] Adam Ant: (which is fine, those are our two jobs) :)
[14:18] Adam Ant: not if I make it a generic system that allows the toggle for anyone
[14:18] Adam Ant: (maybe requires a GM request)
[14:19] Atticus: ok, well, if you're willing, lets do it.
[14:21] Adam Ant: I need to see how hard it is...
[14:21] Adam Ant: I also have *some* reservations about adding an official system to add players to a player owned guild
[14:22] Adam Ant: not sure how to manage that tho
[14:22] Atticus: what's your concern?
[14:23] Adam Ant: as a player you could move your house .. whereby screwing the blessed rune I create .. as a player you could delete the stone, whereby screwing the auto add code .. 
[14:23] Adam Ant: it's < perfect to build system around a 'player managed' guild
[14:24] Adam Ant: your decisions and shard-happiness effects our code
[14:24] Adam Ant: a better solution would be to have a shard owned house, with a staff owned stone, where maybe a player (you) was GM
[14:25] Adam Ant: this way no player is contrrolling the persistance 
[14:25] Adam Ant: and therefore the code need not change with the blowing wind
[14:25] Atticus: that's all fine with me.
[14:26] Atticus: i've played Atticus as thought he was a staff member, anyways. I adhere to a few rules i set for myself anyways
[14:26] Atticus: such as, never use atticus to benefit my player account (not even to transfer. Though, i do "donate" directly from my player account to atticus)
[14:27] Atticus: and never interefere with other players gameplay, including if they're griefing a newbie (the newbie part is a *little* looser, though. If they're being griefed/PKed right in front of me, i step in)
[14:28] Atticus: as for the tower, i don't care about pixels. You could make it static for all i care.
[14:28] Adam Ant: I understand .. it's not a trust thing entirely
[14:28] Adam Ant: it's a coding philosophy
[14:28] Adam Ant: it's like .. do I code a system to support Burly's Fight Nights, or setup an official fight arena (Marble island)
[14:30] Adam Ant: so you would be okay with staff taking over nwnership oif the new tower (and reimbursing atti), and taking over ownership of the stone (and leaving atti as GM)?
[14:30] Atticus: yup
[14:30] Adam Ant: kk, let me look at how hard all of this would be
[14:31] Atticus: well, would i have freedom to work with the area it's in?
[14:31] Adam Ant: if I can get this all working, I'm okay with the auto add feature.
[14:31] Atticus: for example, setup a township stone?
[14:31] Atticus: (which wouldn't be staff owned. I'd manage that myself)
[14:33] Adam Ant: I'd probably just create a region of some size around the tower to prevent an overlapping township
[14:33] Adam Ant: (like we have at the event castle)
[14:34] Atticus: that would be great for prevention of someone else placing one and griefing the tower out of exsistance, but what about placing one to benefit the guild?
[14:34] Adam Ant: in what way?
[14:34] Atticus: which i might do right away, if you're reimbursing me for the tower.
[14:34] Atticus: because I have gold for a castle ugprade
[14:35] Atticus: er, extravagant
[14:35] Adam Ant: how does a township benifit newbies?
[14:35] Atticus: so, if i'm gonna be reiumbursed for that gold anyways, i'll just put it into a township.
[14:35] Atticus: laws
[14:36] Atticus: i'll have to think about it more, just asking what kind of issues you'd have with it for now
[14:36] Adam Ant: my issue is again the same .. player owned
[14:37] Atticus: ok. it's not important, anyways.
[14:37] Adam Ant: let me think about that as well
[14:43] Atticus: ok, keep me posted.
[14:43] Atticus: the hard-coding stuff is more important, though.
[14:44] Atticus: don't strain yourself on the township stuff
[18:16] Atticus: ok, third and final halloween event: PROPOSED
[18:16] Atticus: let me know what you think: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=556296#Post556296)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=556296#Post556296(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=556296#Post556296)
[18:58] Adam Ant: vimpire bat maybe a better werewolf (as it sucks life)
[18:58] Adam Ant: We already have a 'ghost' .. the 'Soul' from the AI prison escape
[18:59] Atticus: is he hard? would he be a suitable "basic spawn"?
[18:59] Adam Ant: the only problem I see with your creatures is that they need coding to 'drop' the loot .. in which case there is little need for them to be template (since they will need special coding anyway.)
[18:59] Atticus: nope, tested
[18:59] Adam Ant: Not a HUGE problem, but worth mentioning
[18:59] Atticus: i found a way!
[19:00] Atticus: as long as the item is worne or held, i can make it work.
[19:00] Adam Ant: ah, true :)
[19:00] Atticus: what you do is, [add the, say, brigand.
[19:00] Adam Ant: nice :)
[19:00] Adam Ant: I know... 
[19:00] Atticus: then target it with t
[19:00] Adam Ant: remember, I did Bobs :P
[19:00] Atticus: damn, i thought i discovered something :P
[19:00] Adam Ant: nah, the Fred, Bob, and PKGhost are all done that way
[19:01] Adam Ant: but hmmm
[19:01] Adam Ant: were you going to say that you dress the mobile, then TARGET him as the template?
[19:01] Atticus: ya
[19:01] Atticus: that's how i did it, at least.
[19:02] Adam Ant: yeah, don't di yt that way .. your mopbile will decay 
[19:02] Adam Ant: you need to do it the clumbsy way
[19:02] Atticus: how's that?
[19:02] Adam Ant: you add a brigand to the spawner
[19:02] Adam Ant: you say OK
[19:02] Adam Ant: you then do properties and turn on Templates
[19:03] Adam Ant: you then go to the properties of the template, and set Location to Your location
[19:03] Adam Ant: and Map to felucca
[19:03] Adam Ant: that will bring the temnplate to you
[19:03] Adam Ant: when you are done, set map internal
[19:04] Atticus: bring him to me then dress him, then set map to internal?
[19:04] Adam Ant: yes
[19:04] Adam Ant: see
[19:05] Adam Ant: when the SPAWNER creates a mobile as 'template' .. it sets a flag on the tem[plate to prevent him from getting deleted by the deathstar
[19:05] Adam Ant: when YOU create a mobile, the flag is not set, and in 12-18 hours, the deathstar will delete it
[19:07] Atticus: ok, one minute.. gonna toy with it
[19:07] Adam Ant: what I do.....
[19:07] Adam Ant: heh
[19:07] Adam Ant: go to GA on Prod
[19:07] Adam Ant: you will see a rect of blockers!!
[19:08] Adam Ant: I pull the template in there so he can't walk off whil I'm working on him!
[19:09] Atticus: so set the spawner in there?
[19:09] Atticus: or in the castle?
[19:10] Adam Ant: well, the way I did it was  .. set the spawner there .. setup the template, do some respawns to make sure everything is perfect, then move the spawner to it's final location
[19:17] Atticus: first one has to stay alive?
[19:18] Adam Ant: hmm?
[19:18] Adam Ant: stay alive?
[19:25] Atticus: ya, when i kill the initial one it screws up the rest of them
[19:25] Atticus: they spawn with partial health
[19:26] Atticus: and they lose the special item
[19:26] Adam Ant: then you're doing something err .. wrong ;p
[19:27] Adam Ant: are you killing the template?
[19:27] Atticus: maybe?
[19:28] Atticus: that would be the one that spawns when i set the map?
[19:28] Adam Ant: do I need to come give you a titorial?>
[19:28] Atticus: nope, i think i'm just supposed to not kill the first one :P
[19:28] Adam Ant: he's not spawning
[19:29] Adam Ant: you are moving the template HERE so you can set him up (as the template for all other spawns)
[19:29] Adam Ant: then MOVING BACK to a safe place !! :P
[19:30] Atticus: maybe this will clear me up.... the 2 spawners you have in GA.... the Jade and Adam
[19:30] Atticus: maybe not
[19:30] Atticus: i dont know, i'll get it :P
[19:31] Adam Ant: as soon as you press the template button on the spawner properties, it spawns a template on the intyernal map .. so far so good?
[19:31] Adam Ant: (just say yes)
[19:32] Atticus: y..es
[19:32] Atticus: :P
[19:32] Adam Ant: then, when you view the properties of the templatem and move him here (by setting the location and map) you can make modification to the template
[19:33] Atticus: ok
[19:33] Adam Ant: when you are finished making modifications to thew template, you move him back to safe storage (the internal map)
[19:33] Adam Ant: where wil live forever
[19:33] Adam Ant: acting as the carbon copy (template) for all future creatures
[19:33] Atticus: hmm, i must have done something stupid like forget to set it back to internal then
[19:33] Adam Ant: if you kill him, well ,, that's just silly
[19:34] Adam Ant: now you have 0 template
[19:34] Adam Ant: yep
[19:34] Adam Ant: then you killzorized him
[19:34] Atticus: and broke the whole thing. I got it now.
[19:35] Adam Ant: turn off templates for the spawner
[19:35] Adam Ant: then turn it back on and it should create you a new template
[19:38] Atticus: sweet.
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[10:00] Adam Ant: Yogi, I'm moving the 3 goodbye posts that have been on the front page of disscussions for the last week to Off Topis with the note "Please continue this discussion in the Off Topic forum" ... this is because it hurts the shard to have these on the front page for a week plus (3 no less) .. please see that future goodby posts get similar treatemnt after 2-3 days.
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[19:55] Atticus: i think i just moved some stuff under the castle...
[19:55] Adam Ant: h??
[19:55] Adam Ant: hmm?
[19:55] Atticus: maybe not....
[20:06] Atticus: ok.... haunted house is all setup if you want to check it out.
[20:06] Adam Ant: event castle?
[20:06] Atticus: yup
[20:07] Adam Ant: I'll check it out when I gety home .. heading home for dinner now
[20:07] Adam Ant: see you!
[20:07] Atticus: righto
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Oct 12 14:06:36 2007
[14:16] Atticus: mojo just hit the money, i think. Would it be possible to add a starting gump giving new players the OPTION to join [NEW]?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Oct 12 16:32:29 2007
[16:32] Adam Ant: I like the casket 'viewing room' ay the castle :)
[16:32] Adam Ant: it looks good
[16:32] Atticus: ok, AA approved?
[16:33] Adam Ant: sure
[16:33] Atticus: super dooper
[16:33] Adam Ant: the graves are a nice touch too
[16:33] Adam Ant: I would like you to ...
[16:33] Atticus: i'm a horrible decorator.
[16:33] Adam Ant: (here it comes)
[16:33] Atticus: uh oh
[16:33] Adam Ant: :P
[16:34] Adam Ant: create some sort of organization around gifts for the various holidays .. currently it's just a mess and we need to scrounge around for info every time
[16:34] Atticus: it's all in the rares thread.
[16:34] Atticus: i thought?
[16:34] Adam Ant: even a simple Christmas, Halloween, Easter, thread that l;ists all the gifts for a given year
[16:35] Adam Ant: sure, in the rares thread .. but maybe orhanized by holliday or misc
[16:35] Atticus: ah, ok.
[16:35] Atticus: hmm, christmas... wonder what i'll do for that one
[16:35] Atticus: forgot there's more holidays than just "halloween" :P
[16:36] Adam Ant: so say this Christmas we can just go look at the Christmas Gifts and select one, or add a new one rather than reinvent the process each year
[16:36] Atticus: ok.
[16:36] Atticus: did you see apollo's event?
[16:37] Adam Ant: yes .. I briefly read over it
[16:37] Adam Ant: what did you think?
[16:37] Atticus: i like it, only issue i have is having to turn in a head for the "key to the reward box."
[16:37] Atticus: the head can be duped, but i think i can keep an eye on it in the [who list
[16:38] Adam Ant: yeah, that sounds weak
[16:39] Atticus: can't make a special item, because it would be more rare than the rewards proposed.
[16:40] Atticus: is there any sort of pin number attached to a crits head i could look for?
[16:40] Adam Ant: yes, the serial
[16:40] Adam Ant: [get serial
[16:40] Atticus: the serial for the crit and the head will match?
[16:40] Adam Ant: no
[16:41] Atticus: hmm
[16:42] Atticus: could just ask for their weapon instead...
[16:42] Adam Ant: I'm going to be away this weekend, but will be able to check messages
[16:42] Atticus: righteo.
[16:42] Atticus: I'll figure something out, have fun ;)
[16:43] Adam Ant: were you doing anything this weekend?
[16:43] Atticus: well, i got a saturday off for once, so i'll probably try to think of something
[16:44] Adam Ant: you need to remind me to make you this.....
[16:44] Adam Ant: or maybe it's a change to barkeeps....
[16:44] Atticus: quest NPCs?
[16:44] Atticus: :P
[16:44] Adam Ant: you can tell the NPC to give X if it is given Y (by serial number)
[16:44] Adam Ant: so .. 
[16:44] Adam Ant: yes
[16:44] Adam Ant: so..
[16:45] Adam Ant: You drop say a book on the NPC
[16:45] Atticus: he would reward with 
[16:45] Adam Ant: and say give this book to anyone that drops and item on you with the serial number 1234567
[16:46] Adam Ant: follow?
[16:46] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=18&Number=423110&Searchpage=1&Main=29411&Words=Quest+Azariel&topic=0&Search=true#Post423110)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=18&Number=423110&Searchpage=1&Main=2941(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=18&Number=423110&Searchpage=1&Main=29411&Words=Quest+Azariel&topic=0&Search=true#Post423110)1&Words=Quest+Azariel&topic=0&Search=true#Post423110
[16:47] Adam Ant: there would be 2 modes .. Game Master mode (by serial), and player mode (by item)
[16:47] Atticus: azariel and I proposed this a long time ago
[16:47] Atticus: almost exactly 1 year ago, actually.
[16:48] Adam Ant: yep, and I have a post .. or notes even older I believe ;p
[16:48] Adam Ant: but yeah
[16:48] Adam Ant: not hard to code as I describe
[16:48] Adam Ant: and very flexible
[16:48] Atticus: awesome. I think it would be put to good use
[16:49] Adam Ant: you give X to NPC and he will give you Y, and/or say X
[16:49] Atticus: az and I had a plan to setup a really intricate newbie training quest using it.
[16:49] Adam Ant: well, that wouyld be swell 
[16:49] Atticus: right, that's exactly what we had in mind. That way you could setup multiple NPCs and tie them all to 1 quest
[16:49] Adam Ant: *brings back the expression 'swell'*
[16:49] Atticus: lol
[16:49] Adam Ant: (from like the 50's)
[16:50] Atticus: beats "super dooper"
[16:50] Adam Ant: hehe :)
[16:50] Adam Ant: one more thing
[16:50] Adam Ant: the quest NPC should have programmable speech patterns as well
[16:51] Adam Ant: \Sophisticated keyword matching .. (not like on barkeeps of today)
[16:51] Atticus: how so?
[16:53] Adam Ant: it could give hints and wait to hear certain keywords before giving more hints... these new hints would provide hints to possible keywords to use on this NPC or the next one in the quest
[16:54] Atticus: sounds good
[16:56] Atticus: oh, couple questions... prolly easy.
[16:56] Atticus: why can't i [add scarecrow or hay?
[16:57] Adam Ant: can you buy hay?
[16:58] Atticus: i think so, cant remember where though
[16:59] Adam Ant: well, hay may have another name .. like shiefofhay or something
[16:59] Atticus: *sheaf
[16:59] Atticus: !
[16:59] Atticus: ha!
[16:59] Adam Ant: there probably isn't a scarecrow item, so they are likely added as statics [add static 
[17:00] Adam Ant: you can also create an item from a graphic id by [add item 
[17:01] Atticus: yes!
[17:01] Atticus: got it!
[17:01] Adam Ant: :)
[17:02] Atticus: spent about an hour screaming "WHY CAN'T I DUPE YOU?!" at my monitor last night
[17:02] Adam Ant: me and the wife are on our way to Disneyland ... *without* the kids :D
[17:02] Atticus: nice
[17:02] Adam Ant: yeah, we like being the kids somethimes
[17:02] Atticus: if you get a chance to go to epcot, try a restaraunt called "swordfish"
[17:02] Atticus: and get the lava cake
[17:03] Atticus: wait, disneyLAND is california, isn't it?
[17:04] Atticus: sure is.... new suggestion: cancel your trip to disneyland and go to the REAL disney park in florida :P
[17:06] Adam Ant: I need to run .. I'll catch up with you later
[17:06] Atticus: righto. have fun, if i dont hear from you before hand
[17:07] Adam Ant: you will ... see you!
[17:08] Atticus: later
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[10:26] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/556819/Main/46608/#Post556819)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/556819/Main/46608/#Post556819
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Oct 15 14:17:42 2007
[14:17] Adam Ant:  Do you know if Nay still posts on the boards?
[14:17] Atticus: pretty sure
[14:18] Atticus: seriusbizniz has vaguely hinted that he's naysayer a few times
[14:18] Atticus: plus his sig is "persona non grata"
[14:18] Adam Ant: okay .. probably not a good idea to go stiring-the-pot with a staff alt
[14:19] Adam Ant: comments like thos are the kind of things flame wars are born of 
[14:19] Adam Ant: it wasn't a 'bad' comnment .. just one that made me go 'uh oh"
[14:20] Atticus: which one?
[14:20] Adam Ant: where you said so-n-so was like Nay without the big words
[14:20] Atticus: i pick on him a lot.
[14:20] Atticus: ah, ok
[14:20] Adam Ant: ok
[14:20] Atticus: alright, i'll leave him alone.
[14:20] Adam Ant: not a big deal :p
[14:21] Atticus: he's just such a... i dont know what the word is for him. 
[14:21] Atticus: pathetic existence?
[14:22] Adam Ant: well, don't push him over the edge .. I don't need him going postal on GMN ;p
[14:27] Atticus: how'd your trip go?
[14:30] Adam Ant: it was fun :)
[14:31] Adam Ant: rained on sat, buts was nice on sun
[14:55] Atticus: at least you're not in chicago... cold seasons kreeping up.
[17:48] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557440#Post557440)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557440#Post557440
[17:51] Atticus: guess i'd be pretty bad for the job, because i like both those houses :P
[17:52] Adam Ant: liking them isn't so bad .. thinking they are OK for AI is the problem
[17:53] Atticus: makes sense
[17:54] Atticus: hmmm
[17:54] Atticus: maybe he'd be interested in decorating for seer events.
[17:54] Atticus: not sure how much need there is for that, though. I hadn't put any thought into it.
[17:54] Adam Ant: sure, I would be okay with that
[17:55] Adam Ant: how about you and he work on the 'new player starting area'
[17:55] Atticus: oo, did that get OKed?
[17:55] Adam Ant: Pixie has the code in there .. now we just need a proposal for the look
[17:55] Adam Ant: yes sir
[17:55] Atticus: ok... what is the code, exactly?
[17:55] Atticus: and where would the area be built?
[17:55] Adam Ant: you are hereby granted permission to totally design that area...
[17:56] Adam Ant: however, I'd like to see some sort of formal proposal .. I don't want it to be 'too much', or overwhelming
[17:56] Atticus: I need a little vision to work with, what do you guys want exactly?
[17:56] Adam Ant: it's not clear to me how you 'do it' 
[17:56] Adam Ant: well, it wasn't my vision :)
[17:56] Adam Ant: so I'm not sure
[17:57] Atticus: hmmm, maybe a little newbie town....
[17:57] Adam Ant: You should m,ake a post to pix (in staff) asking what he things should be there
[17:57] Adam Ant: but first check and make sure he hasn't already stated it somewhere
[17:57] Atticus: ok.
[17:57] Adam Ant: well, he already has the area
[17:57] Adam Ant: it's like a couple hallways 
[17:57] Adam Ant: dungeon looking
[17:58] Atticus: i'll make a thread and work with pixie.
[17:58] Adam Ant: look up his SR, probably in thje archive
[17:58] Atticus: if he wants
[17:58] Adam Ant: and see what he was using (coords)
[17:58] Adam Ant: kk
[17:58] Atticus: how's the [new] stuff coming? did you find out if the flagging stuff was possible?
[17:59] Adam Ant: tell him "Adam has asked me to take thie on" .. so he knows he's not being asked to take on any new tasks
[17:59] Adam Ant: we justy want his ideas
[17:59] Atticus: ok
[17:59] Adam Ant: no, I'm swamped at work
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[20:45] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557587#Post557587)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557587#Post557587
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[00:34] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557646#Post557646)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557646#Post557646
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[14:29] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557740#Post557740)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=557740#Post557740
[16:33] Adam Ant: replied :)
[16:34] Atticus: aaaaad replied back.
[16:35] Atticus: I'll probably announce this event as taking place thursday.
[16:35] Atticus: well, no that wont work...
[16:35] Atticus: birthdays friday, and this is 3 days. I'll start it on monday, and likely use it as the event for reporter applications.
[16:36] Adam Ant: your birthday?
[16:36] Atticus: yup
[16:36] Atticus: 22
[16:37] Adam Ant: :)
[16:37] Adam Ant: HB man
[16:37] Atticus: gratsi ;)
[16:39] Atticus: ok, posting the reporter bit now.
[17:01] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/557788/Main/46682/#Post557788)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/557788/Main/46682/#Post557788
[17:05] Adam Ant: look good
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[14:09] Adam Ant: Just a head's up: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/558407#Post558407)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/558407#Post558407
[14:18] Atticus: righteo
[14:18] Adam Ant: makes sense to you .. good
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[14:27] Atticus: quick question... i tried testing this on TC, but tame slots have been altered, so anything i do is inconclusive...
[14:27] Atticus: as a seer, can i have more tames than tame slots without breaking the shard?
[14:28] Adam Ant: probably not .. but you may be able to set your number of tame slots via props
[14:29] Adam Ant: unless it's read only in which case you can view it and not set it
[14:32] Atticus: aha, thanka
[14:32] Adam Ant: :)
[14:33] Atticus: and for the monster bash, i'm probably going to switch dungeons i use to a bigger one
[14:34] Adam Ant: is it a fel dungeon? Currently unused? does it need a special version client?
[14:34] Atticus: gonna ask rob to test... he uses an ancient client.
[14:34] Atticus: just giving a heads up... i think it's a solen cave, though.
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[16:04] Adam Ant: Hey, should we setup a Tech Talk forum?
[16:04] Adam Ant: you know to discuss computer problems, programming, etc..
[16:38] Atticus: i don't think there's much need, our forums are pretty slow. Threads grow quickly since we have a lot of argumentative people
[16:38] Atticus: but there's not a lot of threads actually being created and getting pushed off.
[16:42] Adam Ant: not sure .. we are talking about the same thing
[16:43] Atticus: hmm, i think i'm talking necessity and you're talking "for the hell of it"
[16:43] Adam Ant: yep
[16:43] Atticus: if so, yea, why not
[16:43] Adam Ant: we have a lot of technicle people, and chatting techno is fun
[16:44] Atticus: .... ya... ok... :P
[16:44] Atticus: in my case "which ones the on button?"
[16:44] Atticus: "damn it! how do i turn this thing off?"
[16:44] Adam Ant: so .. maybe create a tech stuff Group with maybe two forums .. Programming, and Systems and Operating Systems
[16:45] Adam Ant: (or something like that)
[16:45] Atticus: might as well put Off Topic in there, too.
[16:45] Adam Ant: no
[16:45] Adam Ant: the whole idea is to have technicle forums
[16:46] Adam Ant: not another garbage bin ;p
[16:46] Atticus: righto
[16:46] Adam Ant: So PRogramming and General Technicle discussion
[16:47] Adam Ant: both under a "TEch Stuff" group
[16:48] Atticus: ok, i'll probably do it tomorrow. Having family over tonight, then i might go out for a little while.
[16:48] Adam Ant: sure, no hurry
[16:48] Atticus: Do you mind if i group the event forum and the news forum together, also?
[16:49] Atticus: at the top of the forums.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Oct 22 14:26:13 2007
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[20:00] Atticus: 
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[00:27] Adam Ant: hey, how did the event go?
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[06:00] Atticus: not bad, but it was way too short
[06:00] Atticus: gonna revise it later
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[10:13] Adam Ant: tell me about when you have some time
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[14:05] Atticus: sure, let me know when yer on.
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[14:31] Adam Ant: back :)
[14:31] Adam Ant: lets hear it!
[14:32] Atticus: well, it went pretty bad... (i think i said not bad this morning... but it was like 6:00am)
[14:32] Atticus: it ended VERY quickly, and people seemed pretty disapointed.
[14:32] Adam Ant: tell me 
[14:32] Atticus: they got to the leader pretty quick, and with his stats being that of a regular brigand leader
[14:33] Atticus: he died in minutes
[14:33] Atticus: so, his stats will be altered today, probably to match the boss from the last brigand event
[14:34] Atticus: gonna try to arc the story a little bit too, but not sure i have enough time for something like that.
[14:34] Adam Ant: yeah, these are good lessons tho .. stuff you can learn from
[14:34] Atticus: aye
[14:34] Atticus: on the plus side, all the complaints
[14:34] Atticus: and requests
[14:34] Atticus: and suggestions
[14:34] Atticus: are things i already have planned for "arogoth's reign."
[14:35] Atticus: so i'm pretty confidant that that event will be a huge hit.
[14:35] Atticus: just gotta figure out how to better this event in the time i have.
[14:35] Adam Ant: yep .. I can tell ytou so much, but you are to the point now where you're really learning this stuff on your own now
[14:35] Atticus: ya, after getting the mechanics down, and being able to use the systems in place it is getting a lot easier
[14:36] Atticus: and talking to the players at court sessions
[14:37] Atticus: burly says he really wants to be a seer, too...
[14:37] Atticus: i've been keeping an eye on him, and i havn't seen any foul play.
[14:38] Atticus: plus he's expressed a lot of concern over things like multi-clienting, so his heart does seem to be in the right place, which i didn't believe at first.
[14:38] Atticus: he's been putting in a lot of effort.
[14:39] Adam Ant: I'm not ready to take on more seers
[14:39] Adam Ant: not untill you're an expert
[14:40] Atticus: well, i'm definately not an expert, but i think i'm far enough past him that i could help him out with simple events.
[14:40] Adam Ant: I need to run for a bit, I'll be back on in a bit
[14:41] Atticus: righto
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[14:49] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=559707#Post559707)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=559707#Post559707
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[16:14] Adam Ant: nice...
[16:15] Adam Ant: With the pumpkin hunts, you ned to set a new Hue so that normal pumkins will not stack with them
[16:15] Atticus: the spawners still up from last year
[16:15] Adam Ant: I think last year we used hue 51? and some other reddish pumpkin
[16:15] Atticus: might still change the hue though, so people can't use ones from last year
[16:16] Adam Ant: my requirements are that they are hued and not normal .. AND a reasonable 'pumpkin' color
[16:16] Adam Ant: (no blue pumpkins)
[16:16] Atticus: ok, fair enough
[16:20] Adam Ant: if you cannot come up with a nice pumpkin color, use the 51 .. makes a nice 'ghost pumpkin' (a real thing)
[16:21] Adam Ant: then there was a nice redish pumpkin color, but I don't remember if the spawners are setup with it
[16:22] Adam Ant: You should write these hues down tho in the events forum for the Halloween events so we don't need to fumble around for them next year
[16:24] Atticus: ok, 51 it is.
[16:24] Atticus: spawners all setup.
[16:24] Atticus: set to spawn 250 pumpkins, set to hue: 51, over 250 tiles
[16:28] Atticus: i have a question, though.
[16:28] Adam Ant: yes?
[16:28] Atticus: i was working on setting up the leviathan for arogoth's reign, and noticed the "hotsmaxseed" property
[16:28] Atticus: hits*
[16:29] Atticus: that would let me set the crits hits without having to toy with the rawstr too much
[16:29] Atticus: so, say i set the levs. rawstr to 100, i could set its hitsmaxseed to 500, if i set it's RS to 200, i could set its hitsmaxseed to 1000
[16:29] Atticus: or somewhere around there...
[16:30] Atticus: with brigands, their rawstr is 500ish, but their hitsmaxseed is -1
[16:30] Atticus: why are they different? and is there any way to adjust brigands and other human NPCs with limited adjustments to their rawstr?
[16:32] Adam Ant: I am not familiar with hitsmaxseed and don't want it used unless an engineer (me, pixie, or Pezi) okay's it's use and can expain how and when they should be used and any cavats
[16:33] Atticus: bummer
[16:47] Adam Ant: have you used it?
[16:47] Atticus: not on prod, was just testing it on test for a dif event
[16:47] Atticus: was testing it on a kraken, and it worked nicely because i could adjust the hits more without affecting the damage too much
[16:49] Adam Ant: ok... 
[16:49] Adam Ant: if you cannot get an engineerr to review it .. you can use it .. but you really need toi test thye helll out of it
[16:50] Adam Ant: pose the question in staff and address to pixie :D
[17:30] Atticus: ok, will do, at some point.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Oct 24 14:34:14 2007
[14:34] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=559916#Post559916)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=559916#Post559916
[14:36] Atticus: is there a solid plan for control yet? or is it still up in the air?
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[16:39] Atticus: heyo, you about?
[18:07] Adam Ant: yes, what;s up?
[18:07] Atticus: wanted to run by a possible change in todays event...
[18:07] Adam Ant: kk
[18:08] Atticus: if i can get someone to play the role of the gypsy king (so i can handle announcements) would you mind if i made todays event a town invasion?
[18:08] Atticus: just to mix things up, and make things less repetitive
[18:08] Atticus: someone on staff to play the role of the gypsy king*.
[18:09] Atticus: his purpose would simply be to give a speach at the start.
[18:09] Atticus: or a speech
[18:12] Adam Ant: well, you are trying to change a lot of complex stuff without a script
[18:13] Adam Ant: like .. reds getting guard whacked, etc..
[18:13] Adam Ant: *remembers warning lily*
[18:13] Atticus: that's why i need someone to play the role of the gypsy king...
[18:13] Adam Ant: *and the reds got guard whacked anyway*
[18:13] Atticus: i would need to be on my seer, so i could be "lord british" and announce things like the guards going off..
[18:14] Atticus: what i was planning was... the gypsy king would come in to give his usual speech, then while he's doing that
[18:14] Atticus: LB (me) would announce something like "Agh! Seems some of my guards have been assassinated! Something is brewing and my guards are fearfull."
[18:14] Atticus: and further workup like that...
[18:14] Atticus: then the guards would flee, it would be announced
[18:15] Atticus: and spawners activated
[18:15] Adam Ant: is the gypsy king invul?
[18:15] Atticus: thats off the top of my head for the speech, it would be more clear that the guards will be going off
[18:15] Atticus: yea
[18:15] Atticus: GK is invul
[18:16] Adam Ant: what happens if he's hit ./.. will he insta kill with his return hit?
[18:16] Adam Ant: ah, nm
[18:16] Atticus: he can't be hit
[18:16] Atticus: the gypsy king is just there for RP...
[18:16] Atticus: the actual boss will be another brigand
[18:16] Adam Ant: okay with me .. but I suggest you script it .. it's easy to mess things up
[18:16] Adam Ant: also
[18:17] Adam Ant: I like to start warning a good 10 minutes before I ruen the guards back on
[18:17] Atticus: right
[18:17] Adam Ant: I even drop the RP top make sure the reds are out
[18:17] Atticus: ok. this is all if i can get someone to play the role of the gypsy king, though.
[18:18] Atticus: and on short notice, i dont know how that will go.
[18:19] Adam Ant: ask pixie .. he may want to .. 
[18:19] Adam Ant: sec .. let me see if jade wants too
[18:19] Atticus: righteo
[18:19] Adam Ant: when is your event?
[18:19] Atticus: about an hour and a half
[18:19] Atticus: 5:00pm server
[18:19] Adam Ant: and the GK just has to talk?
[18:19] Atticus: right
[18:20] Adam Ant: deliver a mesaage?
[18:20] Atticus: he will go to britain bank
[18:20] Atticus: there will be people there
[18:20] Atticus: he will talk to them
[18:20] Atticus: and start giving them their mission
[18:20] Atticus: before he can finish his speech and send people on their way
[18:20] Atticus: the last brigand leader, and a bunch of other brigands
[18:20] Atticus: will spawn at the bank, and interupt the speech
[18:20] Atticus: surprise attack!
[18:21] Atticus: sort of a surprise attack, at least... there will be an announcement of the guards going off, and brigands entering the town
[18:22] Adam Ant: how long do you need the JK?
[18:22] Adam Ant: [jade] how long of an event are we talking about? I'm a little mired in school work
[18:23] Atticus: couple minutes
[18:23] Atticus: just need someone at the very start so i can make announcements and spring the surprise
[18:26] Adam Ant: you can ICQ her .. she's going to take some time off her homework to give you a hand
[18:26] Atticus: ok, i need to get moving, then.
[18:26] Atticus: i'll write up the speech and send it to her.
[18:59] Atticus: is jades icq still: 143228319
[19:09] Adam Ant: no
[19:09] Adam Ant: yes it is!
[19:09] Atticus: and what am i doing wrong in creating Tmaps? I've been taking them from my personal stash
[19:09] Adam Ant: sorry ;p
[19:10] Atticus: which gets old quick :P
[19:10] Adam Ant: ICQ jade  .. she's getting antsy!
[19:11] Atticus: I did
[19:11] Atticus: about 12 minutes ago
[19:11] Adam Ant: kk, she's responding now
[19:11] Adam Ant: I *think* it is [add treasuremap 4
[19:12] Adam Ant: 4 = the level
[19:13] Atticus: negative
[19:14] Atticus: usage: int 32 level map map
[19:14] Adam Ant: okay, one of those maps is felucca
[19:15] Adam Ant:  [add treasuremap 4 felucca
[19:19] Atticus: here's what it says the usage is...
[19:20] Atticus:  treasuremap int 32 level, map map
[19:20] Atticus:  treasuremap int 32 level, map map
[19:20] Adam Ant: I'ii look at the code .. sec
[19:20] Atticus: chestthemetype type
[19:20] Atticus:  treasuremap int 32 level, map map
[19:20] Atticus: boolean themed, chestthemetype type
[19:33] Adam Ant: [add treasuremap 4 felucca None
[19:33] Adam Ant: try that
[19:33] Atticus: success!
[19:33] Adam Ant: :)
[19:33] Atticus: thanka sir!
[19:33] Adam Ant: mp
[19:34] Adam Ant: you get in touch with Jady?
[19:34] Adam Ant: Jadey
[19:34] Atticus: yup, she's all setup
[19:34] Adam Ant: coo coo
[19:35] Atticus: ok, so, since this is the final event, mind if i load this box up with stuff (maps, gold, cloth, regs) leave it at brit for everyone to sift through?
[19:35] Adam Ant: sounds odd .. please elaborate
[19:36] Atticus: remember someone turns in the head to get a key to a chest?
[19:36] Adam Ant: is the chest locked down?
[19:36] Atticus: past 2 events the chest has been mildly loaded, and only 1 player gets the rewards from it
[19:37] Atticus: this one i'd like to fill it up with more maps, gold, cloth and such and have it be opened at brit west
[19:37] Atticus: 1 player would still get the key to it...
[19:37] Adam Ant: so instant banking from the chest?
[19:37] Atticus: negative, it would be deleted when emptied
[19:37] Adam Ant:  is the chest locked down?
[19:37] Atticus: ya
[19:38] Adam Ant: is the cloth rare?
[19:38] Adam Ant: how rare?
[19:38] Adam Ant: and how much gold?
[19:38] Atticus: aye, today would be valorite cloth
[19:38] Adam Ant: kk
[19:38] Adam Ant: how much cloth
[19:38] Atticus: and lets say... 100k gold.
[19:38] Atticus: 30 val cloth
[19:39] Atticus: actually, i'll just stick with whats been working... its too late for something like this
[19:39] Adam Ant: yeah, you really need to stick with the scripts :p
[19:39] Adam Ant: *stresses me out*
[19:39] Atticus: ya. Just wanted to make changes because i can tell players would a little dissapointed by the repetitiveness of last nights event
[19:40] Atticus: the spawn was a lot more fun for them, but there was some dissapointment
[19:40] Atticus: i'll just up the splashgold a few K per person
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[10:00] Adam Ant: How was your event?
[10:02] Adam Ant: FYI
[10:02] Adam Ant: [07:58] Rob: ok to get kadull to mass e-mail that?
  if i can get Pixie to keep track of who gets the most kills at wrong can we post the results and a pic of the winner?
 [07:59] Luke: no, I do the mass emailing based on game registrations, message board registrations, and players that have unsubscribed. No one else should be sending anything on behalf of GMN
 [08:00] Luke: (because I respect the unscribe option of the email system)
 [08:00] Rob: so, kadull's mass msg drives.... you didn;t approve of those?
 [08:01] Luke: that was when he was a player acting as a player .. 
 [08:01] Luke: and he has a personal ICQ list I do not control
 [08:01] Luke: but only I should be doing email
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[14:09] Atticus: what's he want to mass email? and are you telling me not to ICQ people any more?
[14:14] Adam Ant: I think he was confused
[14:14] Adam Ant: he thought you were mass emailing .. I told him that you had a LARGE ICQ list and that's your own business
[14:14] Atticus: i think i'm confused :P
[14:14] Atticus: ah ok.
[14:14] Adam Ant: but that all email needs to go through me
[14:14] Adam Ant: (because I maintain the list of who wants to recieve email and who does not)
[14:30] Atticus: havn't gotten a single reporter application, btw.
[14:30] Atticus: kind of a bummer
[14:30] Adam Ant: :\
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[09:55] Adam Ant: Can you make Silver Fox moderator access to the static housing forum, and make a welcome post please. Here is his ICQ: 443588782
[09:56] Adam Ant: Also I'd like you to meet him on TC so you can give him GM powers so he can start approving houses. I'll train him after you set him up
[09:57] Adam Ant: Oh, and can you give him momentary access to the staff forum -- JUST LONG ENOUGH to sign the staff agreements
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[14:44] Atticus: ok, he's up for decorating for seer events, too.
[14:45] Adam Ant: good deal
[14:45] Atticus: not sure how that will work, though.
[14:45] Atticus: give him seer access and apply the same rules as reporters to his possition?
[14:45] Adam Ant: hmm?
[14:45] Adam Ant: seer?
[14:46] Atticus: no answering pages, and only log in to decorate areas
[14:46] Adam Ant: why seer?
[14:46] Atticus: to decorate for events..
[14:46] Adam Ant: you only grant minimum access and Seer > GM
[14:46] Adam Ant: aall he would need is GM
[14:47] Atticus: oh, i thought it was the other way around.
[14:47] Atticus: then ya, GM.
[14:47] Adam Ant: and I'm not ready to give him access to a GM account without more trust
[14:47] Adam Ant: he will have a reporter char?
[14:47] Atticus: no, nobody applied to be a reporter
[14:48] Adam Ant: yeah, no one can have access to a GM character without vetting (I know I said he could deco)
[14:48] Atticus: I believe he's been here a good long time, he's just not well known.
[14:49] Adam Ant: but it's SOP to have staff be a counselor before giving them the ability to subvert the entire shard
[14:49] Atticus: alright.
[14:50] Adam Ant: tell him if he wants to deco, he needs to be a counselor for a while .. 
[14:50] Adam Ant: in the mean time, he can deco TC and you or lily can copy his designs onto prod.
[14:51] Adam Ant: (giving out GM powers is not something I do lightly)
[14:51] Atticus: ok, well, i see what i can do with him in terms of getting him to a possition he'll be good at and enjoy
[14:53] Adam Ant: :)
[14:54] Adam Ant: are you familiar with the approval process?
[14:54] Adam Ant: (housing)
[14:54] Atticus: not at all
[14:54] Adam Ant: okay
[14:54] Atticus: custom housing has never interested me past the point that it could help.
[14:54] Atticus: (the shard)
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[16:16] Atticus: hey, would you mind sending out a mass email about the halloween events?
[16:23] Adam Ant: nope, just write it up 'mail ready' and I'll send it
[16:26] Atticus: ok, PMed it to ya
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[18:50] Adam Ant: PM sent
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[19:12] Adam Ant: err .. email sent
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Oct 28 14:15:42 2007
[14:16] Atticus: hey, what do you think of adding a new pet as a holiday reward? I was thinking Imps with cat bodyvalues.... [hue 1.
[14:18] Adam Ant: that needs to be deeply considered from a balance standpoint
[14:18] Adam Ant: you would have to look at the str/dex/mana/control slots very closly
[14:19] Atticus: they'd be imps.
[14:19] Adam Ant: you would have to look at the str/dex/mana/control slots very closly
[14:19] Adam Ant: (fom a pet standpoint)
[14:19] Atticus: you can already tame imps
[14:19] Adam Ant: ah, ok
[14:20] Atticus: the only difference between these would be they would look like black cats
[14:20] Adam Ant: what good would they be as a cat then? we already have helcats
[14:20] Atticus: there would be no shift in balance, they'd just be rare pets
[14:20] Adam Ant:  what good would they be as a cat then? we already have helcats
[14:20] Adam Ant: hellcats
[14:22] Atticus: nothing major, just pleasing to the eye, like any other rare... and moderately usable
[14:23] Adam Ant: you don't underrstand my point
[14:23] Adam Ant: what a imp and not a black hellcat
[14:23] Adam Ant: *why
[14:23] Atticus: ohhh
[14:23] Atticus: ya, that'd be cool
[14:24] Adam Ant: how do they look black? most black creatures look crappy
[14:24] Adam Ant: must hued creatures look crappy\
[14:24] Atticus: look alright
[14:24] Adam Ant: I'll need to see what they look like
[14:25] Adam Ant: how would they be awarded?
[14:25] Atticus: the small ones do, at least... not the big ones
[14:25] Atticus: they'd spawn rarely and players could kill them or tame them
[14:25] Atticus: at the haunted house
[14:27] Atticus: probably once every 5 hours, to put it in between the lantern and the cloak.... only 1 or 2 of those cloaks will spawn
[14:57] Adam Ant: okay, they look good enough
[14:57] Adam Ant: and they are tamable
[14:57] Adam Ant: every 5 hours for how many days (total chances at getting one)
[14:58] Atticus: opens tomorrow, closes Nov. 1
[14:58] Atticus: so, 72/5
[14:58] Adam Ant: I woiuld say random between 6-10 hours
[14:58] Adam Ant: also
[14:58] Adam Ant: name the "a black cat"
[14:58] Adam Ant: right?
[14:59] Atticus: yup
[14:59] Adam Ant: okay :)
[14:59] Adam Ant: template spawners ftw!
[14:59] Atticus: no kidding, these things are great
[14:59] Atticus: gotta start toying with the champ spawners now.
[14:59] Adam Ant: be sure you have a reminder to turn it off!
[15:00] Adam Ant: You could make an SR for Event Spawner Feature .. to add an Expire property that takes a TimeSpan that devines when the sawner automatically turns itself off
[15:01] Adam Ant: *defines
[15:01] Adam Ant: so you could say Expires in 5 days .. or , 16 hours, etc..
[15:01] Atticus: i can manage to turn it off i think
[15:01] Adam Ant: hehe :)
[15:02] Atticus: i'll just write a reminder, no need for dev work.
[15:02] Atticus: oh, that reminds me...
[15:02] Atticus: what's going to happen with the [new] stuff? I ask because i collected some donation cash, and if we arn't going to do that
[15:02] Atticus: i need to return the donations
[15:04] Adam Ant: I don't know .. havn't had time to think about it
[15:04] Adam Ant: Make me an SR to add a guild property the disallow Flagging
[15:04] Atticus: ok
[15:05] Adam Ant: then I can add the [New] feature :)
[15:05] Adam Ant: make it a GuildMaster function to disable all flagging rules
[15:05] Adam Ant: so that there is no Orange or Green
[15:05] Adam Ant: (and thus no Alliances or war)
[15:06] Adam Ant: would that system STill be useful to you?
[15:06] Adam Ant: without flagging?
[15:06] Atticus: ya, i think so.
[15:06] Adam Ant: does New make use of Flagging?
[15:06] Atticus: it'll take some of the family feel out of it, but it will still be usefull
[15:07] Atticus: pro's will definately outweigh the cons
[15:07] Adam Ant: Okay, then....
[15:07] Adam Ant: Add a 'It would be nice if.." clause to the SR that reads like this:
[15:07] Adam Ant: the Feature for the Guild Master is "Delayed Flagging for new members"
[15:07] Adam Ant: meaning....
[15:08] Adam Ant: there is a day or two where only new members are not included in the flagging system.
[15:08] Adam Ant: Better?
[15:09] Atticus: what if we didn't toy with flagging, and made a gump so that players could CHOOSE to join [new] or not?
[15:09] Adam Ant: if someone is truly 'new' to the game and needs the help of new .. they would not understand the implications
[15:09] Atticus: "welcome to angel island. There's a guild here called [new]....  Would you like to join?  
[15:09] Atticus: ah, that's true
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Oct 29 15:16:55 2007
[15:17] Atticus: gonna open the haunted house in about 45 minutes, if that's alright?
[15:22] Adam Ant: sure
[15:22] Adam Ant: :)
[15:22] Atticus: sweet
[15:22] Adam Ant: I'll look at it a bit later .. send me an invite when there are some folks there
[15:23] Atticus: will do
[15:36] Atticus: hmm, just noticed the event castle is Undead aligned... mind if i change that for a few days?
[15:36] Adam Ant: that's fine
[15:36] Atticus: actually, come to think of it, it doesnt matter... its not count anyways
[16:10] Atticus: it's open, they seem to be enjoying it so far ;)
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[18:09] Atticus: i don't have access to the "accesslevel" command to get silverfoxed setup on test
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[21:36] Atticus: don't suppose i could get you to give me a quick rundown of how the champ spawner works?
[21:41] Adam Ant: you're not using a champ spawner are you?
[21:41] Atticus: yes, everywhere
[21:42] Adam Ant: I thought you were using spawners
[21:42] Atticus: i spawned like 20 of them
[21:42] Atticus: CHAMPS EVERYWHERE!
[21:42] Adam Ant: hehe
[21:42] Adam Ant: stop it now!
[21:42] Atticus: :P
[21:43] Atticus: but, is it possible for ME to setup a champ?
[21:43] Atticus: or does that all have to be coded?
[21:43] Adam Ant: no .. they *still* need code changes
[21:43] Atticus: hmm
[21:43] Adam Ant: but we are getting closer to defining them all 'ingame'
[21:43] Atticus: okie
[21:44] Atticus: guess i better go [delete all these damn champions
[21:44] Atticus: the shards gone pink with bobs
[21:45] Adam Ant: !
[21:51] Atticus: anywho, was asking as a way to beaf up the haunted house a little bit.
[21:52] Atticus: i might end up speeding up the ooga booga (halloween lantern) spawn tomorrow... gonna see how people cope with the current spawn first.
[21:53] Adam Ant: yeah, write up an SR for me to create a dynamic system for defineing the spawn levels (one that doesn't need code)
[21:57] Atticus: i'll write up 2. I got another idea for spawner you might like
[21:58] Adam Ant: :p
[22:06] Adam Ant: can I turn on my deco sleletons on the porch?
[22:06] Adam Ant: they are blessed, so they are deco only
[22:06] Adam Ant: you can turn them off if you do not like them
[22:06] Atticus: there was something there, i dont think they were skeletons, though.
[22:07] Atticus: but ya, its your house :P and skellies sound good
[22:07] Adam Ant: yeah, they are skeles .. have a look
[22:07] Adam Ant: what's cool about tem is their animation
[22:08] Adam Ant: (if you watch them for a bit)
[22:10] Atticus: someone killed it
[22:11] Atticus: were they IOB aligned? maybe thats why i did it.
[22:11] Adam Ant: *fixed*
[22:12] Adam Ant: they were pre templates so they wern't blessed .. all good now
[22:15] Adam Ant: did you just spawn a black cat felix?
[22:16] Atticus: nope
[22:16] Atticus: oh, the ones outside?
[22:16] Adam Ant: yes
[22:16] Atticus: named "felix"?
[22:16] Atticus: there's a spawner for those... non tamable, regular cats.
[22:16] Atticus: just for decoration
[22:16] Adam Ant: well it's confusing
[22:16] Adam Ant: but ok
[22:17] Adam Ant: i mean if you train me to kill black cats .. why would I think "Ooh! A black cat .. maybe I can tame it?!1"
[22:17] Adam Ant: me=players
[22:17] Atticus: hm
[22:17] Atticus: that's true
[22:17] Adam Ant: they need to be 'special'
[22:17] Adam Ant: something remarkable has just spawned
[22:18] Adam Ant: not .. another black cat, just kill it
[22:18] Atticus: agreed
[22:18] Atticus: the skillies look better anyways
[22:18] Adam Ant: and they do the cute animation!
[22:19] Adam Ant: you should test this on TC .. but you can set the light level for this region ;p
[22:19] Atticus: i thought of it, but you told me before not to touch light levels ever
[22:20] Adam Ant: well, for normal regions
[22:20] Atticus: would be cool to set the light level then make the lanterns blessed ;)
[22:20] Adam Ant: towns, dungeions, houses
[22:20] Atticus: so players could run around killing stuff with their lanterns
[22:20] Atticus: but blessed is usually bad
[22:21] Adam Ant: yeah, no blessed stuff
[22:21] Atticus: that idea for t2a is really good, btw.
[22:21] Adam Ant: and I'm not suggesting you try to do this tonight .. I only wanted you to know it's an option
[22:21] Adam Ant: yeah, orc heven
[22:21] Atticus: i think so, at least. what's required of that? seems like a lot of the stuff required i could do
[22:22] Atticus: ya, exactly. RPers would love it
[22:22] Adam Ant: it's mostly done .. I would want to discuss with pix and az first
[22:23] Atticus: no idea who az is.
[22:23] Adam Ant: akauius
[22:24] Adam Ant: ak
[22:29] Atticus: well, if you decide to move forward with it, let me know if you want a hand with setting the spawners up and such
[22:44] Adam Ant: will do
[22:45] Atticus: righto, welp
[22:45] Atticus: i'm off to bed
[22:45] Atticus: later
[22:54] Adam Ant: night man!
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[15:33] Atticus: did you do anything to prevent players from turning in 1 or 2 pumpkins at a time to get more rewards in past years?
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[14:50] Adam Ant: let me know when you're around
[14:50] Atticus: just sat down
[14:51] Adam Ant: pixie saw a Page last night that he thought quite odd, so he forwarded it to me.
[14:51] Atticus: ok
[14:51] Adam Ant: I wonder if you can tell me what this means...
[14:51] Atticus: sure, hit me
[14:51] Adam Ant: [07:50] Pixie: just was online and saw this page in the page queue - thought it was curious:  
 
  
 
 "4 pumpkins, felix u said u'd get back at me with a price?  dunno if u forgot?" 
 
 
[14:52] Adam Ant: *starts a timer*
[14:52] Atticus: was getting an ash tray
[14:52] Atticus: oh, that.
[14:53] Atticus: i was giving extra stuff out to my friends
[14:53] Atticus: not for any particular reason, other than they're my friends
[14:53] Atticus: ... not :P
[14:53] Atticus: he handed in 4 pumpkins, and it was early on
[14:53] Atticus: i was going to give EVERYONE rewards AFTER the tally, then decided that was stupid later
[14:53] Atticus: so he hadn't gotten anything yet
[14:54] Adam Ant: ah
[14:54] Atticus: and i just forgot to pull him durring the event
[14:54] Atticus: i think it was mugen
[14:54] Adam Ant: what was the reward going to be?
[14:54] Atticus: regular deed
[14:54] Atticus: halloweendeed
[14:54] Adam Ant: did you give those to everyone?
[14:54] Atticus: ya
[14:55] Adam Ant: aren't those rates?
[14:55] Atticus: everyone who turned in at least 1 pumpkin
[14:55] Adam Ant: rares
[14:55] Atticus: no, there's first second and third place ones that have the more rare stuff
[14:56] Atticus: first place got a deed with the regular deed stuff, plus a hanging skeleton... second got... one with...
[14:56] Atticus: a web, and the regular halloween stuff
[14:56] Atticus: and third got the hued skeleton statue
[14:57] Adam Ant: ah, those are the standard reward deeds I made up correct?
[14:57] Atticus: right
[14:57] Adam Ant: okay
[14:57] Atticus: so today, to close up the haunted house, i figured i'd announce that i'd be spawning 1 of each of the special crits, and closing it a half hour later
[14:57] Atticus: sound ok?
[14:58] Adam Ant: sure
[14:58] Adam Ant: how have the events been going?
[14:58] Atticus: fuckin' awesome, if i do say so myself.
[14:58] Atticus: we hit 65ish for both the pumpkin hunt and the other one.. the monster bash
[14:59] Atticus: and the haunted house has been hoppin' every time i've checked on it
[14:59] Atticus: monster bash was a little sketchy at first, i made the spawn too hard.
[14:59] Adam Ant: :)
[14:59] Adam Ant: the pumpkin hunts are fun heh
[14:59] Atticus: but i toned it down as it went along, and when i spawned the harrower everyone seemed pretty thrilled
[14:59] Adam Ant: and the HH looked fun, I popped in a couple times
[15:00] Atticus: if we do the haunted house again, i'm going to make it more newb oriented i think
[15:00] Adam Ant: sure
[15:00] Atticus: the spawns a little hard, and for the cloak and the lantern you pretty much have to be a tamer or a bard to get
[15:01] Adam Ant: has anyone tamed the black cat?
[15:01] Adam Ant: (and got it out of there?
[15:01] Atticus: ya, a couple, i think
[15:01] Adam Ant: nice
[15:01] Adam Ant: well, good job :)
[15:01] Atticus: i know one for sure, i watched that go down.
[15:01] Atticus: and i think choco got one
[15:02] Adam Ant: nect year we'll have to enble bred black cats to have a chance at a black offspring
[15:03] Atticus: that'd be bitchin'
[15:03] Atticus: the black cats gave me some ideas for the T2A thing, in case you ever wanted to move forward with it, too.
[15:04] Atticus: but i dont have time for that, i gotta meet up with someone
[15:04] Atticus: gonna make the post about closing the haunted house and head out. I'll be back in a bit
[15:04] Adam Ant: okay
[15:04] Adam Ant: see you!
[15:04] Atticus: laterz
[15:08] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=561247#Post561247)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=561247#Post561247
[15:08] Atticus: later
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[00:12] Atticus: argh! color wars! i was hoping to host that as the next event somehow!
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[11:22] Adam Ant: yeah, iyou should .. maybe make it a monthly event?
[11:22] Adam Ant: it wasn't my idea, I just happened to showup as they were setting up, so I made some announcements and a post
[12:17] Atticus: ya, i had been brainstorming it for a couple days now, just couldn't figure out how to make the teams up
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[13:00] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/561459/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/561459/gonew/1#UNREAD
[13:00] Adam Ant: Can you track this and see if it shoule be formalized .. and what would need to be done
[13:02] Atticus: ya, i didn't forget about it... i'm just not good with design
[13:02] Atticus: there's ready to go scripts out there that you can copy that i think people would enjoy, and i dont see too many problems with making occlo the event area
[13:04] Adam Ant: I think I would rather write our own system if it's wasy
[13:04] Adam Ant: *easuy
[13:04] Adam Ant: what I need you to do 
[13:05] Adam Ant: is to watch how it is done, the let me know what needs to be coded into the system to make it better
[13:06] Atticus: automation.... something to set people to proper teams, and something to keep track of the teams points.
[13:06] Atticus: so, a CTF specific arena would be optimal, to limit interferance
[13:06] Atticus: interference
[13:07] Atticus: oh, wait, we got someone for that sort of thing now.
[13:08] Atticus: but, the 2 key elements are:
[13:09] Atticus: Teams: Players go through a gate and are designated to a specific team. Even teams are important.
[13:10] Atticus: and Capture: Flag item, Flag base. Player from team A runs into team B's base, runs over their flag, is flagged a certain color
[13:10] Atticus: he then runs back to his base, and runs over his teams flag post to score a point for his team.
[13:10] Adam Ant: Yes, I have notes from Cassandra and you believe .. what I would like you to do is observer how a player run system works and document it's performance, then make note of what went wrong, or needs developer support. (I suggest working with Pete)
[13:13] Atticus: i'll try, it depends on what time he hosts it, though.
[13:13] Atticus: i have to wake up for work very early, and he plans to host it durring the week
[13:13] Adam Ant: okay .. maybe coordinate with Pete to take these tasks if you are unavailable?
[13:14] Adam Ant: so the player is hued when he runs ober the opposing teams flag?
[13:15] Atticus: right.
[13:15] Atticus: i could writeup a design proposal if you want
[13:15] Adam Ant: yes, that would be wonderful
[13:16] Adam Ant: I do however like the ocllo idea tho as the region is already setup ala siege
[13:16] Atticus: right, but it's open to everyone. People will inevitably crash the events if you dont seal it off
[13:18] Adam Ant: yep.. I'm thinking of a 'cant move unless wearing color' ala AI Prison
[13:19] Atticus: right, but with the size of the island, and all the different roads and ways to get around, and the shards population, it would probably make it too easy to capture the flag
[13:20] Atticus: better than nothing, though.
[13:27] Atticus: Hiya pete! Great idea with the capture the flag event. Thing is, Adam and I have been discussing a good "capture the flag" auotomated event for a while now. 
  
 I plan to send him in a design proposal for the system, and think I have everything mapped out pretty well. However, since you're planning on running a capture the flag event, I was wondering if I could get a little input from you when it's all over. 
  
 Basically, I'd just like to hear from you everything that goes well, and everything that goes wrong with the event, to give us a better idea of what to code into the capture the flag event. 
  
 So, if that's something you wouldn't mind doing, just pop me a PM after you host the event, and maybe we can work together to get a good event coded. 
  
 Also, let me know if you want some moongates or announcements for your event and I'll try to get on that night to set that all up.
[13:31] Atticus: also, i had a question.... did silk, or any of the other recently fired staff have access to the AI code?
[13:39] Adam Ant: yes, Killgreedy did and I *assume* he made some of it available to silk
[13:39] Adam Ant: why?
[13:39] Atticus: all of it?
[14:37] Adam Ant: yes .. he was supposed to be development
[14:37] Adam Ant: al developers have access to the source code repository
[14:38] Adam Ant: however, my underdstanding is that his hard disk crashed and my hope is that he lost the source code when that happened
[14:46] Atticus: ok
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[20:11] Atticus: what's up with server wars? they should have started 10 minutes ago
[20:13] Adam Ant: they's on
[20:13] Adam Ant: they should have started at 6:07
[20:13] Atticus: there was no announcement... are you sure they're on?
[20:13] Adam Ant: and 57 seconds ;p
[20:14] Adam Ant: I can see the message that "Server wars have Begun" in my journal
[20:14] Atticus: oh, hmm, must have missed it then
[20:14] Adam Ant: followed by "Server Wars are in progress"
[20:14] Atticus: i'll setup gates and add some supply stones by the healer
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[20:21] Adam Ant: The reg stone at wrong *may* be ok .. but you need to be careful not to make it too east to get back onto the field as the *winners* don't actually win then
[20:21] Adam Ant: keep an eyeon it
[20:21] Atticus: they just want to fight for this thing, i think.
[20:22] Atticus: i'll watch it, though
[20:24] Adam Ant: okay ... 
[20:25] Adam Ant: I know for normal (non server wars) players don't want people coming back too soon .. but for SW it may be ok
[20:36] Atticus: set skills are turned on for all server wars now, right?
[20:50] Adam Ant: yes sir
[20:51] Adam Ant: not a bad turn out :)
[20:51] Atticus: not at all
[20:51] Atticus: i'm brainstorming a way that we can advertise these on other shards boards....
[20:51] Adam Ant: 50 online, and man7y are fighting
[20:51] Adam Ant: "the Angel Island PvP community challanges YOU!"
[20:52] Adam Ant: You sissy!
[20:52] Atticus: just trying to think up a good proposal to give the admins of other shards so they don't delete the threads
[20:53] Adam Ant: yup .. good idea
[21:05] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=561829#Post561829)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=561829#Post561829
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Nov 07 13:50:26 2007
[13:50] Adam Ant: damn good post if you have a minute: (Link: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=3472430&postcount=275)http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=3472430&postcount=275
[14:53] Atticus: what post is he refering to?
[14:53] Adam Ant: not sure
[14:56] Atticus: nice plug
[15:10] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/562422/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/562422/gonew/1#UNREAD
[15:15] Adam Ant: *read*
[15:16] Atticus: you dont want him to make the torrent?
[15:23] Adam Ant: not with the official consent of GMN or AI, it's illegal, and not only that, but the RunUO folks would have a HUGE problem with it
[15:24] Adam Ant: (bundeling RunUO)
[15:24] Atticus: why's that?
[15:24] Adam Ant: because we are redistruting their software without their permission
[15:24] Atticus: oh, because of razor... gotcha
[15:25] Adam Ant: also, I don't know this guy .. he could put spyware in there and it would reflect on us .. I want nothing to do with it ;p
[15:25] Atticus: couldn't you look at the file and see it had an extra attachment?
[15:26] Adam Ant: UO is comprised of 100+ files, plus he wants to include other files like documents and such .. it would be hard
[15:27] Atticus: ok
[15:27] Adam Ant: also, he could simply replace client.exe with an out-and-out trojan
[15:28] Atticus: well, his registration IP and his last post IP are completely dif... they dont look like they're even from the same area
[15:29] Adam Ant: could be work and school or home
[15:29] Atticus: they need to develop another way to track this thing...
[15:30] Adam Ant: track what thing?
[15:30] Atticus: we have the right to keep people away from our homes and business off the internet, i see no reason why we should be stuck with something as flimsy as IPs
[15:30] Atticus: ... on the internet
[15:31] Adam Ant: yeah, no kidding
[15:33] Atticus: and i never heard back from pete about keeping track of what "what does" and "what doesn't" work for his CTF event
[15:34] Atticus: and i wont be able to get on that late, gotta be up extra early for a long drive to work tomorrow, where i'll be climbing around in a 2ft tall ceiling all day
[15:34] Adam Ant: that's too bad. Will you be able to attent?
[15:34] Adam Ant: kk
[15:34] Adam Ant: maybe you can ask him to write up the results (aka problems) tomorrow?
[15:34] Atticus: i asked, he never responded
[15:35] Adam Ant: kk, I'll ask
[18:08] Atticus: any objection to opening some gates for petes CTF event?
[18:09] Adam Ant: no sir!
[18:09] Atticus: I could open them up, but i'll have to log right when it starts, and thus, take them down when it starts too
[18:09] Adam Ant: Do you know how to place a sign?
[18:09] Atticus: nope
[18:09] Adam Ant: kk .. 
[18:09] Atticus: wait, ya
[18:09] Atticus: there's a feature for it in pandoras box, i think
[18:09] Adam Ant: yep ;p
[18:09] Adam Ant: then [set name on it 
[18:10] Adam Ant: um, should the gates remain open?
[18:10] Adam Ant: I could turn them off when I get home tonight if that would help
[18:11] Atticus: what time would that be?
[18:11] Atticus: i ask so i can be clear to pete about his options
[18:12] Adam Ant: 10-10:30 pac
[18:12] Atticus: an hour from now?
[18:12] Adam Ant: hehe, it 4:12 PM here now
[18:13] Atticus: no
[18:13] Atticus: right
[18:13] Atticus: :P
[18:13] Adam Ant: so in like 6+ hours :p
[18:13] Atticus: ok
[18:13] Adam Ant: just leave me a PM with the coords
[18:15] Atticus: they'll be on the west side of brit west and by the AI portal in ocnivelle
[18:15] Atticus: if they're there, gonna ask pete if he wants them first
[18:15] Adam Ant: okay
[18:15] Adam Ant: Add a gign to each portal!
[18:15] Adam Ant: *sign
[18:15] Atticus: ok
[18:16] Adam Ant: thanks man :)
[18:16] Atticus: no problemo
[18:18] Atticus: ^more spanish
[18:18] Adam Ant: har
[18:19] Adam Ant: Que?
[18:19] Atticus: yo hablo espanol alto
[18:19] Atticus: sobre
[18:20] Adam Ant: not if I can help it :)
[18:21] Atticus: yu puede alto may!
[18:22] Atticus: erm, tu no poder may!
[18:22] Atticus: may = yo
[18:22] Atticus: my spanish = (Link: http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/index.html)(Link: http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/index.html)http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/index.html
[18:23] Adam Ant: ¡parada del oh que demuestra apagado!
[18:26] Atticus: no
[18:26] Atticus: ^spanish for "no"
[18:27] Adam Ant: No cuido
[18:27] Adam Ant: :P
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Nov 10 15:53:37 2007
[15:53] Adam Ant: can you make this change to the appropriate playguides/calandars please [Offline Message (11/10/2007 [21:42])]
[15:53] Adam Ant: Crazy Map Day  
Crazy Map Day has been rescheduled from the 2nd Sunday of every month to the 5th Sunday of any month with 5 Sundays. 
This change reduces Crazy Map Day frequency from 12 times per year to 4 times per year.  
 [Offline Message (11/10/2007 [21:42])]
[15:53] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563043#Post563043)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563043#Post563043 [Offline Message (11/10/2007 [21:42])]
[15:54] Atticus: every other event will be bumped up a week?
[15:54] Adam Ant: no, nothing else changes .. 2nd sunday is reserved
[15:59] Atticus: done
[16:00] Adam Ant: thanks ... is Atticus a staff char on the boards?
[16:00] Atticus: yea, admin
[16:00] Adam Ant: kk... 
[16:00] Adam Ant: I need you to follow up with Grog wrt Grimm passing away
[16:00] Adam Ant: I'll PM you tow
[16:00] Adam Ant: Two
[16:01] Atticus: yea, that was pretty sad. I talked with him a couple times int he shout box, he was a good guy.
[16:02] Adam Ant: okay, I PM'ed you...
[16:03] Adam Ant: he's asking for an event and perma deco I believe .. which is not something I like doing....
[16:03] Adam Ant: I might be willing to update a grave at Brit tho, maybe we could do that
[16:04] Atticus: sounds ok to me.
[16:04] Adam Ant: (but having a memorial in the middle of the world is tougher) 
[16:05] Adam Ant: I would be okay with it as long as it was not a housing spot, but you should try to convince hom that maybe having his grave in a graveyard is a better idea?
[16:05] Atticus: that's what i meant... grave in the graveyard would be ok with me
[16:06] Atticus: as much as i hate to say it, i think if we did anything "all out" for this, which i would love to be able to do, we would see a lot of hoaxes from some sick bastards
[16:06] Adam Ant: right .. I think it should be 99% player driven .. 
[16:06] Adam Ant: we can create a grave tho
[16:06] Atticus: same can be applied to the event they want, i'm affraid to see what could happen at something like that.
[16:07] Adam Ant: well, it must be player run .. 
[16:10] Atticus: how's this sound.... I'll decorate (or rather, the new decorator) decorates an exsisting structure for their memorial, and we make a gravestone at brit west with his name?
[16:12] Atticus: or if they want it in their village, we could build a large gazebo for them for the memorial, and take it down after?
[16:12] Adam Ant: is this something you would like to do?
[16:13] Atticus: if it's what they want. The only thing i'm affraid of is future fraud
[16:15] Adam Ant: me too
[16:15] Atticus: not so much because of the work it would entail, but because i would be disgusted
[16:15] Adam Ant: I think doing special structures and deco is problematic
[16:15] Adam Ant: I think we should limit our involvement to a grave
[16:18] Adam Ant: next task: roe says our UO download links didn't work last time he tried. Can you make sure that they are working and update as necessary?
[16:19] Atticus: sure, i needed to test out some client stuff anyways and see if its the cause for my lag
[16:20] Adam Ant: kk, thanks :)
[16:20] Atticus: could you add felix as a recipient of the PM?
[16:22] Adam Ant: not now, I already added atticus (I don't think you can add people after the PM is sent)
[16:24] Atticus: ok, well i'll PM them on Felix and say I'll try to make it to their ceremony, but we can't add a garden
[16:24] Atticus: but CAN, however, change a gravestone to their liking
[16:25] Atticus: with name and a short epitaph
[16:25] Adam Ant: yes, or add a grave somewhere ... because I'm not sure you can add a name to a static gravestone
[16:25] Atticus: ok
[16:25] Adam Ant: please look into it
[16:26] Adam Ant: 1. Can you add a name to a static grave stone, 2. if not, can we construct a little grave yard somewhere, 3. Maybe we want player graves sprinkled around
[16:26] Adam Ant: please advise
[16:41] Atticus: can't reset a statics name.
[16:45] Adam Ant: yeah, I think I tried it before
[16:45] Atticus: so here's what i'd like to do.
[16:46] Atticus: I'd like to setup a gravestone for them just outside of the brit graveyard
[16:46] Adam Ant: TC is back up
[16:46] Atticus: since it's a no housing zone and the gravestone will be permanent
[16:46] Atticus: and if there's another instance like this, there will be room for more
[16:46] Adam Ant: what do we do for the next guy that passes on?
[16:47] Adam Ant: are you assuming this is a once only thing?
[16:47] Adam Ant: you need to make a plan on how to handle this in general .. not a one-off thing
[16:48] Atticus: there's no realistic way to approach regulating it, short of requiring to see death certificates
[16:48] Adam Ant: well, if that's the best idea, thjen that's fine .. but don't do it because it's no housing .. we can create no housing region anywhere we want
[16:48] Atticus: but even that would be a reach.
[16:48] Adam Ant: no that's not what I mean
[16:48] Adam Ant: I'm saying placement assuming they really died
[16:49] Adam Ant: from this point forward in the convo, lets assume that we are not quesrtioning the death
[16:49] Adam Ant: 'what we need if the 'right' solution for player graves
[16:49] Adam Ant: not necessarilly a convienient one
[16:49] Adam Ant: maybe you should consider setting up a grave yard somewhere
[18:08] Atticus: seen nays newest stunt?
[18:27] Adam Ant: no, what is it?
[18:27] Adam Ant: =\
[18:32] Adam Ant: what's he up to?
[18:49] Atticus: looks like he's working up to something.... he's "bestpvmer"
[18:50] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563069/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563069/gonew/1#UNREAD
[18:50] Adam Ant: Yep ... two questions
[18:50] Adam Ant: 1. How do you know it's him
[18:50] Adam Ant: 2. What do you think he's up to?
[18:51] Atticus: IP and no idea, probably just one of his usual bitch fits
[18:51] Atticus: as his sig implies
[18:51] Adam Ant: okay, I'll tip you off on another thing that tipped me off too
[18:52] Adam Ant: (yes, after I got your message, I started investegating as well..))
[18:52] Adam Ant: If you look at thge properties of his image in that pict, you will see that it belongs to account: (Link: http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x21/Random1983/?action=guestlogin)http://s181.photobucket.com/albums/x21/Random1983/?action=guestlogin
[18:52] Adam Ant: Random1983
[18:53] Atticus: i get a login screen from the link
[18:53] Adam Ant: yep .. for account Random1983
[18:53] Adam Ant: if you look at the profile for The Naysayer you will see a birthday of 1983!!
[18:53] Adam Ant: *flex*
[18:54] Atticus: very nice
[18:54] Adam Ant: :)
[18:54] Adam Ant: I'll go ban the IP range now ;p
[18:54] Atticus: excellent
[18:58] Atticus: ok, i'm out for the night
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[21:39] Adam Ant: night :)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Nov 12 14:59:25 2007
[14:59] Adam Ant: When you have a few minutes, have a look.  
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563195#Post563195

)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563195#Post563195  
(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563194#Post563194

)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563194#Post563194  
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[17:32] Atticus: PM sent for CTF
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[15:31] Adam Ant: I just posted some CTF notes from a discussion with pete
[15:32] Adam Ant: one of the more interesting ideas that came out of it was to use a hued wisp as the flag. This would keep us from having to hue the human's body, and hiding would no longer be an issue either
[15:32] Adam Ant: The wish name could also be flagish "Read team flag" or shomething
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Nov 14 15:10:28 2007
[15:11] Atticus: ok, so i think I'm going to go with adding a grave to the britain graveyard, in front of the entrance for kalypso
[15:11] Atticus: There will be room for others, in case the unfortunate reoccurance of this event, plus it will be somewhere well traveled, and easily accesible
[15:11] Atticus: so people can visit it easily
[15:11] Atticus: how does that sound?
[15:13] Atticus: unless you're up for giving them a shot at having it in their village, with the understanding that it may be moved at some time if it leads to problems
[15:17] Adam Ant: no, I think that's a good call
[15:17] Atticus: giving placing it in their village a shot?
[15:17] Adam Ant: no, the brit gy
[15:18] Adam Ant: just try to do it in an expandable way
[15:18] Adam Ant: and in a way that looks like a logical extension of the existing gy
[15:18] Atticus: my plan is to put it..
[15:19] Atticus: picture the road leading from brit into the graveyard
[15:19] Adam Ant: yeah
[15:19] Atticus: i plan to place it to the left of that entrance
[15:19] Atticus: along the fence that runs |
[15:20] Atticus: |
[15:20] Atticus: |- -
 | ^entrance
 |<-- grave
 
[15:21] Adam Ant: More like?
       | ^entrance
  |<-- grave
  
[15:22] Atticus: on the inside of the fence?
[15:23] Adam Ant: no, .. I thought the gate was out ... lets meet on GA?
[15:23] Atticus: sure, prod?
[15:23] Adam Ant: sure
[15:23] Adam Ant: meet you there
[15:24] Atticus: righto
[18:11] Atticus: when will TC be back up?
[18:12] Adam Ant: it's not :o
[18:12] Atticus: ever?!
[18:12] Adam Ant: I meant...
[18:12] Adam Ant: it's not?!! :o
[18:13] Atticus: Negative, sir!!
[18:13] Atticus: TC is currently offline
[18:13] Atticus: or at very least i can't connect.
[18:13] Adam Ant: *launches it*
[18:15] Adam Ant: okay, try now ;p
[18:16] Atticus: hoozah
[18:16] Atticus: Hey, i was thinking about doing a last man standing soon (not mortal requirement).
[18:16] Atticus: only difference would be that since this event would have a lot more participants than the last mortal standing, I would require everyone to come in naked
[18:17] Atticus: and just add a couple bankers when it comes time to fight, and have no item limitations
[18:20] Adam Ant: sure .. sounds cool
[18:20] Atticus: righto. I'll announce it soon.
[18:20] Atticus: not much prep for it, so i'll probably host it tomorrow or the next day
[19:03] Atticus: can you come on TC real quick?
[19:03] Adam Ant: sure
[19:28] Atticus:  
 Re: Saw you 
 R.I.P. [JR] R.I.P. [JR] 
 The Notable 
  
  
 Registered: 07-22-2007 
 Posts: 76 
 Loc: New York I'm not quite sure exactly how that all is going to work because I'm not familiar with this game. I'm sure he would have appreciated that and I am happy to know that he even had in-game friends that cared that much about him. 
  
 He went in for surgery again this past month and unfortunately it weakened his immune system. He ended up getting very sick due to WP and passed away November 4th. I'm going to miss him dearly 
  
 If you would please pass my email address to Adam and let him know I am deeply thankful for all of your kindness. 
  
 tru.enigma@hotmail.com 
[19:30] Adam Ant: yes, I just sent her the email
[19:31] Adam Ant: I asked for: permission, plus
[19:31] Adam Ant: Name: ingame and or real
 Dates: real life birth/death dates
 Epitaph: A short something about him or a message to his friends.
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[15:38] Adam Ant: [12:30] Cassandra: how would that councelor -> Seer thing work that we spoke of while we met ..
 [12:30] Cassandra: and good morning to you 
 [12:30] Cassandra: :D
 [13:36] Adam Ant: You mean you as a counselor?
 [13:36] Cassandra: yes
 [13:37] Cassandra: Atticus is online so late that there's Euro Councelor / seer missing
 [13:38] Adam Ant: okay, contact Atticus and find out when he might have somne time to trtain you .. I'll call him and let him know.
[15:39] Atticus: got it
[15:39] Adam Ant: I'm not ready to make this guy a seer .. but he would make a reasonable counselor (if you want to take him on.)
[15:39] Atticus: wasn't he fired from staff a while ago?
[15:40] Adam Ant: um, noty really 'fired' .. let go for not being available enough .. so you shopuld ask him if he will be available
[15:40] Adam Ant: here is his ICQ 424863068
[15:41] Atticus: ok, waiting on authorization
[15:47] Adam Ant: [13:44] Adam Ant: he's waiting on authorization...
 [13:44] Cassandra: i havent received any requests
[15:47] Adam Ant: whay's your ICQ .. I'
[15:47] Adam Ant: ll send it to him
[15:47] Atticus: he just ICQed me
[15:47] Adam Ant: kk
[15:47] Adam Ant: *ducks out of convo*
[16:01] Atticus: ok, he seems great to me.
[16:02] Atticus: i can't give staff access in shard though, so i'll need you to set him up, and i'll train him.
[16:02] Atticus: shal I proceed to have him resign all the staff agreements?
[16:03] Adam Ant: okay, can you have him reread and resign the agreements please
[16:03] Adam Ant: :)
[16:03] Atticus: sure
[16:03] Atticus: back with ya in a minute
[16:11] Atticus: ok, he's all set.
[16:12] Atticus: You'll need to take it from here, once you get him setup I'll give him a quick training session
[16:24] Adam Ant: I'll make him an account and let you know when hes ready
[16:34] Adam Ant: Okay, he's on GA on prod .. can you come get him started?
[16:34] Atticus: already there
[16:34] Adam Ant: ty :)
[16:34] Adam Ant: if he needs an account on TC .. let me know
[16:34] Adam Ant: (for practicing commands and such)
[16:36] Atticus: well, if he's looking to be a seer
[16:36] Atticus: how about we get him setup with a seer account so he can start teaching himself while he works his way to that level on prod?
[16:36] Adam Ant: I'm not ready to styart preping him for seer...
[16:37] Adam Ant: he needs to prove himself as a counselor first
[16:37] Atticus: righteo
[17:29] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563770#Post563770)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=563770#Post563770
[17:29] Atticus: please approve or decline
[17:30] Atticus: it's last mortal standing, but with no mortal requirement
[17:30] Atticus: instead of screening items at the start, players will enter naked
[17:30] Atticus: and when I give the go to start fighting, i'll add a banker for them to grab their lootz
[17:30] Atticus: all items allowed, but genies will be banned
[17:34] Adam Ant: replied
[17:52] Atticus: replied.
[18:58] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563782/Main/47199/#Post563782)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/563782/Main/47199/#Post563782 :P
[19:22] Atticus: cool. Mind if I give one of these a whirl tonight, while we have 60ish online?
[19:23] Adam Ant: sure
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[17:03] Atticus: Heyo, you around?
[17:03] Atticus: i have a quick ?
[17:05] Adam Ant: WHAT's up?
[17:05] Atticus: for the newbie area...
[17:06] Atticus: would blocking off a small section of green acres, like we did with the preview neighborhood (possibly even right next to the preview neighborhood)
[17:06] Atticus: be ok?
[17:06] Adam Ant: did you know pixie had an area?
[17:06] Adam Ant: have you rejected that?
[17:06] Adam Ant: Why?
[17:06] Atticus: if you're talking about the one he said Gilah suggested... it's HUGE
[17:07] Atticus: i mean massively gigantic.
[17:07] Adam Ant: I don't think so ..  can you dig up the SR and gind the location he had 
[17:24] Atticus: i can't find it.
[17:25] Adam Ant: I'll see if I can .. 
[17:25] Adam Ant: did pixie respond to the straling bug you posted>/
[17:25] Atticus: but if i had to guess, i'd say it's probably the same one he mentions in the staff forum.
[17:25] Atticus: which is too big, and hard to travel in... it's just a bad area, i think.
[17:26] Atticus: yes, he did. Just inquiries, though.
[17:26] Atticus: which i don't have many answers for.
[17:32] Adam Ant: well, we're never give players to the 'official' green acres .. but the faux green acres (where the houses are) would be okay
[17:32] Adam Ant: however .. let me dig up the location pixie had picked out
[17:33] Atticus: ok, I 'may' be able to use this one he has in the staff forum, too. But it seems like areas in it will either be too big or too small.
[17:34] Adam Ant: You don't have to use it .. I just want you to make your decision based on good information
[17:35] Atticus: me too.... i dont want to build it, have it denied, then have to build it somewhere else, then have to rebuild that on prod
[17:35] Atticus: i'd blow my brains out before i even got halfway through rebuilding it on test :P
[17:38] Adam Ant: there SO many nice static buildings, dungeons and places I would really hate to build something
[17:38] Atticus: right.
[17:38] Atticus: well, my plan is to basically copy that features page (or at least some of it... PVP, PVM, Crafters, RP, and misc.)
[17:39] Atticus: into books, and place those books in libraries
[17:39] Atticus: and have some animations to showcase some of the stuff
[17:40] Atticus: so, being able to organize it all nicely is why being able to construct the area would be best, but i may be able to do that with an exsisting dungeon...
[17:41] Atticus: but if i use a dungeon, i think it would be best to use trammel, since taking up an area in felucca that will be a "no play" area seems pretty wastefull to me.
[17:45] Adam Ant: go here 5733 798
[17:45] Adam Ant: that's what pix had picked .. 
[17:45] Adam Ant: I need to run to a party .. I'll be back later tonight
[17:46] Atticus: righto
[17:46] Atticus: drink one for me
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Nov 18 21:23:38 2007
[21:24] Atticus: say, how hard would it be to add an option to RCs to make a region a "plague region"? Meaning, anyone inside that region had a chance to be poisoned randomly?
[21:32] Adam Ant: easy
[21:32] Atticus: think you could do that in the near future? It would be used for Arogoth's Reign.
[21:33] Adam Ant: seems a bit weird .. players don't like damage 'out of left field'
[21:33] Atticus: in one of the chapters muzgy raids the britain alchy shops for poison potions and such. Originally the plotline was that the potions would be used to create a super rotting corpse, but he's a necromancer and could probably just summon one of if he wanted. So, the idea would be that he robs the shops of their poison and cure potions
[21:34] Atticus: to create a sort of bio plague, and antidote for himself.
[21:34] Atticus: and it would be hinted to that players will be poisoned for the event, likely in the report captioning muzgys raid
[21:36] Adam Ant: we typically don't add temporary code to permanate systems ... the properties of a region controller (for instance) have generic value ,,
[21:37] Adam Ant:  the properties of a region controller are useful for many different needs .. this change you suggest adds an oddball feature to a permanent system
[21:37] Atticus: right, figured that might be a problem.
[21:37] Adam Ant: well, it's not a problem from a difficultity standpoint, more from a coding philosophy standpoint
[21:38] Atticus: ya, thats what i figured.
[21:38] Atticus: seems a little goofy to me, too, tbh.
[21:38] Adam Ant: ;p
[21:38] Atticus: i'm just trying to put as much as i can into this event.
[21:43] Atticus: i'll stick with the rotter or alter the plot some other way, though.
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[18:04] Atticus: has anything with the player cemetery been done?
[18:04] Adam Ant: I don't believe so :\
[18:05] Atticus: my names on this, i really dont want this to be something that gets pushed aside and forgotten
[18:06] Adam Ant: okay, well in lieu of Jade doing this, I guess we can pick a place.
[18:07] Adam Ant: My preference would be be less interesting than yours then .. no fountain, and go with a standard iron fence
[18:07] Adam Ant: I'll login and see if I can't find a reasonable place to setup a graveyard / mosoleum
[18:08] Atticus: ok
[18:10] Adam Ant: *logs in*
[18:13] Atticus: alright, im on prod and tc, let me know what you find
[18:14] Adam Ant: will do
[18:30] Adam Ant: hey
[18:30] Atticus: is for horses
[18:30] Atticus: ha!
[18:30] Atticus: .... so funny
[18:30] Adam Ant: no, hAy is for horses!
[18:30] Adam Ant: :P
[18:30] Atticus: i thynk i no how two spel hey, dood.
[18:31] Adam Ant: do you know that cute little park with the benches and fountain in Trinsic?
[18:31] Adam Ant: I think it's in Trinsic
[18:31] Atticus: nope
[18:31] Adam Ant: kk, I'll look for it
[18:31] Adam Ant: While I'm looking
[18:31] Adam Ant: did I ever tell you Bill Gates personally demoed one of my inventions? 
[18:32] Atticus: ... no
[18:32] Atticus: seriously?
[18:33] Atticus: what's the invention?
[18:33] Adam Ant: FaxGrabber 
[18:33] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95b7QrRUfBE)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95b7QrRUfBE
[18:37] Atticus: thats pretty nifty
[18:37] Adam Ant: yeah, was pretty cool to be recognized by 'the man' ;p
[18:38] Atticus: get a lot of business from it?
[18:38] Atticus: the recognition, that is.
[18:38] Adam Ant: we did ok, but the company I worked for was lame and didn't market it effectively .. then someone else copied it and made a fortune
[18:39] Atticus: .... ouch
[18:39] Adam Ant: no, I've never really capitolized on it
[18:39] Adam Ant: I just recently decided to make the video and link it to my resume 
[18:40] Atticus: looking for a new job?
[18:40] Adam Ant: no .. just like to keep the resume up-to-date
[18:41] Atticus:  was hoping to trade. I guess it wouldn't have worked anyways. I can turn a computer on, and thats about it :P
[18:42] Adam Ant: ;p
[19:52] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/564270#Post564270)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/564270#Post564270
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[14:18] Adam Ant: I replied to your STR Damage question
[14:41] Atticus: thx
[14:41] Atticus: still doesnt seem to be working, though.
[14:41] Atticus: i set my str to 100 and set my weapon mindamage to 1000, max: 1500.
[14:42] Atticus: then spawned a mongbat with 100 str, and I don't kill it in one hit.
[14:42] Atticus: and with min/max at 1 and 2 it takes the same.
[14:44] Atticus: at least on test.
[14:44] Adam Ant: you may be lookint at the problem incorrectally
[14:44] Atticus: maybe, not sure how the min/max damage is factored
[14:45] Adam Ant: well, lets say with your M/M (min/max) at 1000 you are going 1,000,000 damage per hit, and with M/M (min/max) at 1 your are doing 900,000 damage per hit
[14:46] Adam Ant: The M/M scale is working, it's just that it's not sufficient to your needs
[14:46] Atticus: ya, ok, thought it may be something like that, but not so close
[14:46] Atticus: i mean, 1500 and 2 are pretty far off, and the damage seemed pretty close.
[14:46] Adam Ant: well I pulled the numbers out of the air, but you get my point
[14:47] Atticus: ya
[14:47] Atticus: well, the str damage thing sounds good.
[14:47] Atticus: or maybe
[14:47] Atticus: instead of switching str damage off, add something that will adjust hits
[14:47] Atticus: without having to factor str
[14:51] Adam Ant: thos last two statements are the same
[14:53] Atticus: hmm, ya, guess so. lol
[14:53] Atticus: sorry, long day
[14:57] Atticus: oh, also. while i have you. here.. Would building a little gazebo (sp?) near the player GY be ok? for like a reception area
[14:58] Adam Ant: that's be okay.. but is there a place for it?
[14:58] Atticus: going to check now
[14:58] Adam Ant: also, can you do it on TC so I can make it a 'house'
[14:59] Atticus: sure.
[15:47] Atticus: looks like the outer tiles, the ones that blend with the dirt/grass, arn't constructable.
[15:47] Adam Ant: sure they are
[15:47] Adam Ant: how are you trying to ad them?
[15:47] Atticus: well, there's no itemid for them
[15:47] Atticus: so i'm doing the "tileid"
[15:47] Adam Ant: !
[15:47] Atticus: [add statictile 133
[15:48] Atticus: and i get the message "that item is not marked constructable"
[15:48] Adam Ant: it's static not statictile
[15:49] Atticus: that gets me a stone wall, if i use the tileid number
[15:49] Adam Ant: hmm
[15:50] Atticus: there's no tile like it in PB either
[15:50] Atticus: in either the dirt of grass lists
[15:51] Adam Ant: you ever been to ronks special housing area on TC?
[15:51] Atticus: i try to stay away from anything that has to do with ronk :P
[15:51] Adam Ant: ;p
[15:52] Adam Ant: have you seen the 'paths'
[15:52] Atticus: looking now
[15:54] Atticus: only paths i see are stone, found something in one of the houses, though
[15:55] Atticus: its not exactly like the ones you showed me, but it should work
[15:55] Adam Ant: :)
[16:29] Atticus: [go 1298 3710 0
[16:29] Atticus: ^tc graves
[16:34] Adam Ant: yep, looks good
[16:36] Atticus: i'll let you know when the gazebo/reception area is done.
[16:37] Atticus: would it be possible to get the graves, gazebo, and str stuff in 1 patch? or will there be a wait for the str stuff?
[16:37] Atticus: no rush on the str stuff... i'm just asking.
[16:59] Atticus: cool idea: gazebos... players can place 1 gazebo per account. The gazebo must be within X tile (1-2 spaces in between) of the house, and shares the secures/lockdowns of the house.
[16:59] Atticus: :back to work:
[17:23] Adam Ant: the graves can be done now .. don't require a patch, the gazabo is almost the same .. no restart required as long as you I can capture it as a house.
[17:23] Adam Ant: The STR I can have that up on TC shortly for you to test
[17:23] Atticus: ok
[17:23] Atticus: gazebo will be done in a few
[17:37] Adam Ant: Do you have a place in the playguide where we talk about Player Vendors? 
[17:38] Atticus: i dont believe so, no
[17:38] Atticus: would need a new thread for it
[17:38] Adam Ant: how about Public vs Private houses?
[17:39] Atticus: yup
[17:40] Adam Ant: well, a while back we changed things so that  you could have a vendor in a private house
[17:40] Adam Ant: there needs to be a cautionary note there ... 
[17:41] Adam Ant: that private houses can lock you out away from your vendor (I'm removing the ability to ban a vendor owner.)
[17:42] Adam Ant: So .. the statement shoul be that you should trust the home owner if you put a vendor in a private house.
[17:42] Atticus: um
[17:42] Adam Ant: PS. I will remove the ability to convert to Private if there are existing vendors
[17:42] Atticus: need to make sure you add a way for home owners to get rid of the vendor too, then
[17:42] Adam Ant: why?
[17:42] Atticus: I place vendor
[17:43] Atticus: I start krpwning you
[17:43] Atticus: and there would be nothing you could do to stop me
[17:43] Atticus: i would have all the power
[17:44] Adam Ant: how is that different that a public vendor house on OSI?
[17:45] Atticus: you unfriend
[17:45] Atticus: then you ban
[17:45] Adam Ant: can you ban from a public house on OSI?
[17:45] Atticus: ya
[17:45] Adam Ant: oh .. I c
[17:45] Adam Ant: so this 'problem' isn't really a problem at alll
[17:46] Adam Ant: it's always been a way to keep players from their vendors
[17:46] Atticus: what are you trying to fix?
[17:47] Adam Ant: some guy complained that he could not get to his vendors because he was benned from the house that his vendors were in
[17:47] Adam Ant: has that always been possible on OSI?
[17:48] Atticus: not sure, i was never one to house fight
[17:48] Atticus: or let people put vendors in my hosue
[17:48] Atticus: house*
[17:49] Adam Ant: I need to know this before I can decide if ti should be fixed
[17:50] Adam Ant: if it was always available on OSI, then I will not fix it
[17:50] Adam Ant: if it was not possible, then I should fix it
[17:50] Atticus: i'll see if i can dig something up after i build this thing
[17:51] Adam Ant: okay, thanks
[17:51] Atticus: np
[18:01] Adam Ant: okay, it's up
[19:07] Atticus: can you capture a building that in town to a deed?
[19:07] Adam Ant: most tiles, yes
[19:07] Adam Ant: *times
[19:07] Atticus: most times... hmm... i bet this one wont then
[19:07] Adam Ant: did you find one you like?
[19:07] Atticus: ya
[19:07] Adam Ant: well, you on TC?
[19:07] Atticus: perfect for the thing
[19:07] Atticus: yup
[19:08] Adam Ant: brt
[19:12] Atticus: i think i'm crashing
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[19:19] Atticus: didnt work?
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[20:05] Adam Ant: oh, yogi's on .. you can test the weapon damage!
[20:05] Atticus: thats what the mongbat was for :P
[20:05] Atticus: it's working fine
[20:06] Adam Ant: ah, nice!!
[20:06] Adam Ant: did you try leaving it at 0 and varify it still one hits?
[20:06] Atticus: very... events just got a whole lot better
[20:06] Atticus: yup
[20:06] Adam Ant: did you try values other than 100 to see that it scales 'reasonably well'?
[20:07] Atticus: nope, i can later though
[20:07] Adam Ant: yeah .. nothing exhaustive .. just make sure 10 is different than 100, and 100 is diffewrent that 500
[20:07] Adam Ant: night!
[20:09] Atticus: ok
[20:09] Atticus: can do
[20:09] Atticus: laterz
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[13:07] Adam Ant: let me know when you're around and we'll place the gazabo
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Nov 21 15:42:17 2007
[15:42] Adam Ant: when we going to place your gazebo!!
[15:42] Atticus: pronto, senior.
[15:42] Atticus: ^ immediately in spanish
[15:43] Adam Ant: let me know when
[15:43] Atticus: i'm in now, if you want to do it
[15:43] Adam Ant: yep .. go to where you want it placed
[15:45] Atticus: all set
[17:01] Adam Ant: you got your note paper?
[17:01] Atticus: ya
[17:01] Atticus: whats up?
[17:02] Adam Ant: okay, you're going to need to write this StrBonusCap stuffs for other seers .. so you will want to put it with the Template Spawners and other seer'y stuffs
[17:02] Adam Ant: ready?
[17:02] Atticus: yup
[17:03] Adam Ant: okay...
[17:03] Adam Ant: for reasons too detailed to go into now, I decided to put the STRBonusCap property in the MOBILE instead of the weapon
[17:04] Adam Ant: this means ANY weapon equiped will be effected by the STRBonusCa setting in the mobile
[17:04] Adam Ant: a STRBonusCap of 0 means there is no cap
[17:05] Adam Ant: and a STRBonusCap > 0 acts as we talked about yesterday
[17:05] Adam Ant: i.e., a STRBonusCap of 100 limits the bonus to 100
[17:05] Adam Ant: (no matter ho high their STR is)
[17:06] Adam Ant: all EXISTING creatures and Players/staff are set to 0
[17:06] Adam Ant: all newly created Players/staff will default to 140 (100 max str + legal buffs)
[17:07] Adam Ant: since your character is pre-existing, ytou will need to set your STRBonusCap to 140 (or whatever you want) for your events
[17:08] Adam Ant: You should make it a standard procedure to Seers to double check/set their STRBonusCap before becoming a Champ
[17:08] Adam Ant: *done*
[17:08] Adam Ant: Does all of that make sense?
[17:08] Adam Ant: any questions?
[17:08] Atticus: yup
[17:08] Atticus: no questions
[17:08] Atticus: makes perfect ssense
[17:08] Atticus: much better than the weapon, too.
[17:09] Atticus: dont have to worry about casting a spell and killing someone with a punch
[17:09] Adam Ant: well .. 
[17:09] Adam Ant: 'fists' are a weapon that can be set
[17:10] Adam Ant: but since they are invisable, staff are likely to forget
[17:10] Adam Ant: or not know how to set  properties on them
[17:10] Adam Ant: so I thought it was better to make it an obvious property
[17:10] Atticus: agreed
[17:11] Adam Ant: I should have it chjecked in soon .. I'd like you to spend some time testing it to make sure I didn't bork anything
[17:11] Atticus: ok, i wont have time to tonight though
[17:11] Adam Ant: also, do some simple melee tests with creatures too ... make sure thay still do damage!
[17:12] Adam Ant: if you run around and do [get STRBonusCap, you should see 0 everywhere
[17:13] Adam Ant: make sure players 'punches' are working normally ... 
[17:13] Adam Ant: you don't need exact numbers, but only that they seem reasonable
[17:13] Adam Ant: (breaking it would mean no damage ot great damage)
[17:13] Adam Ant: well, make yourself a list of things to check :p
[17:14] Atticus: can do.
[17:15] Atticus: still gotta look into the vendor thing too
[17:15] Adam Ant: *nods*
[17:15] Atticus: i'll test/look into it then get back to planning stuff
[17:15] Atticus: after i set the character stats, which should be waaaaaay easy now, i'll have arogoths reign ready to go in a week or so.
[17:16] Atticus: unless i tweak stuff, which i might :P
[17:17] Adam Ant: okay .. good deal
[19:52] Adam Ant: okay, changes are up on TC for you to test when you have some extra cycles .. I'm off to my dads ;p
[19:54] Atticus: ok, i'm off to shower and go partay
[19:54] Atticus: have fun
[19:54] Atticus: i'll test tomorrow
[19:55] Adam Ant: okay, see you .. and happy thanksgiving!
[19:55] Atticus: you too ;)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Nov 22 12:10:21 2007
[12:10] Atticus: did we lose a counselor today?
[12:10] Adam Ant: why do you ask?
[12:15] Atticus: nm, i misunderstood something
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[12:17] Adam Ant: well, I crabbed at Cassandra for shooting off his mouth lastnight ;p
[12:17] Atticus: ya, that's who i'm talking to
[12:17] Adam Ant: but I don't think he quit, and I didn't fire him
[12:18] Adam Ant: he was telling folks how he was an exploited on OSI
[12:18] Adam Ant: multiple stories :\
[12:18] Atticus: ya, i havnt touched on that with him yet
[12:18] Atticus: here...
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[12:19] Atticus: [11:23] niinima: hi atti
 [12:04] Atticus: heyo
 [12:04] niinima: whats up?
 [12:04] Atticus: not a whole lot, how about you?
 [12:05] niinima: i think i just got kicked out of the staff .. or if not kicked I will resign my post .. too much hazzle from yesterday
 [12:05] Atticus: what?
 [12:06] Atticus: i dont understand...
 [12:06] niinima: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/564905#Post564905)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/564905#Post564905
 [12:06] Atticus: you lost access to the staff forum?
 [12:06] niinima: no
 [12:06] niinima: but
 [12:06] niinima: I held a court
 [12:06] niinima: Frava and Turk were there for awhile
 [12:06] niinima: asking questions about factions
[12:19] Atticus: [12:07] niinima: i directed the focus on .. i asked them about ideas about the factions
 [12:07] niinima: general stuff
 [12:07] niinima: the guys think up some ideas .. they post about it .. mention my name
 [12:07] Atticus: i did notice that, and it is an issue if it went as they said
 [12:08] Atticus: it's alright to voice your concerns about stuff being implemented
 [12:08] Atticus: to staff
 [12:08] niinima: then at certain point of that court I explain to the guys that making factions a reality is more than just a *puff* ENABLED. and mentioned that on OSI me and my friends exploited the OSI bugs and that is the reason things needs to be done carefully. Game mechanics is more complex than just click enabled or disabled
 [12:08] Atticus: in the staff forum... we all do it.
[12:19] Atticus: [12:08] Atticus: but, as far as the players are concerned
 [12:08] niinima: its not about the stuff I was concerned
 [12:08] Atticus: we need to maintain a unified front
 [12:08] niinima: I just as asking eg
 [12:09] niinima: " what do you guys think about reds allowing to walk to enter the city? "
 [12:09] niinima: or
 [12:09] Atticus: that's fine.
 [12:09] niinima: " what do you guys think about allowing many faction chars on single account "
 [12:09] niinima: that was the level of discussion
 [12:09] niinima: well adam flipped
 [12:09] niinima: and
 [12:09] niinima: hmmm
 [12:09] niinima: yah
 [12:09] Atticus: ?
[12:19] Atticus: [12:10] Atticus: i need to talk to adam, i think
 [12:10] niinima: let's just say that he played the " as a councelor you need to address things on the behalf of entire staff etc "
 [12:10] niinima: naah
 [12:10] niinima: no need
 [12:11] niinima: I do not agree with all the stuff but i wont say it out loud in game that i disagree with many things adam and pixie are doing
 [12:11] niinima: but im not allowed to give a subjective opinion?
 [12:11] niinima: what the fuck is this? A nazi state?
 [12:11] niinima: I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT
 [12:11] Atticus: that would only be true if you werent allowed to voice the concern at all
 [12:11] niinima: ok
 [12:11] niinima: keep this to yourself but
 [12:12] Atticus: you can object all you want, but we're a team... we have to work together, and the players have to have faith that we can all work together
[12:20] Atticus: [12:12] Atticus: and agree with each other
 [12:12] niinima: """ yep.. you're in trouble ... that's why I was recording your conversations .. you were notonly dishing out opinions on factions (which you have no business dfoing), but you were also telling all about how you and your friends were exploiters and cheaters on OSI
 7:35
 brb"""""
 [12:12] niinima: i didnt disagree with staff members
 [12:12] Atticus: so if you have a concern, express it to staff, but... you cant make the players think there's conflict in staff
 [12:12] niinima: well this wasn't pointed anyway to the staff
 [12:13] Atticus: sure it is
[12:20] Atticus: [12:13] Atticus: it's the teams system...
 [12:13] Atticus: we're a team.
 [12:14] niinima: well ok yah i understand what you mean
 [12:14] Atticus: people blow things out of proportion
 [12:14] Atticus: it's all annoying little politics, but it's true
 [12:14] niinima: but I always pointed out " subjective opinion " when I expressed my personal thoughts
 [12:14] niinima: yeah i do get that
 [12:14] niinima: but
 [12:14] niinima: dunno
 [12:15] Atticus: people can take the simplest thing, such as "i dont agree with factions" and translate it in their head as "staff cant agree on anything, they arnt working as a team, yadda yadda, i quit"
 [12:15] Atticus: and it ruins their fun
 [12:15] Atticus: it might seem trivial, but it's really important
 [12:15] Atticus: thats one thing i believe, very much
 [12:16] niinima: I do agree with you .. but i didnt say anything that direct at any point of the court
 [12:16] Atticus: oh, alright
 [12:16] Atticus: what did you say?
 [12:16] niinima: well if my memory serves me right
[12:20] Atticus: [12:16] niinima: it went something like this
 [12:16] niinima: there was some conversation and then
 [12:19] niinima: " subjective opinion " .. I wonder should there be limitations in the factions, eg one faction per account? What do you think? Hmm ok thou that creates the problem of multiaccounting? hmm my concern is that certain guilds grow too big and it will ruin the gaming experience for many people not interested in certain philosophy. Let's take an example. There's Jack and his neighbour. They want to roleplay Undead eg and they get overpowered by some other guilds contantly because they are lets say 10 people. This would be unfrotunate, but the game mechanics allows it. "
 [12:19] niinima: in short what turk wrote up .. it looked something like that when I spoke
 [12:20] niinima: adam recorded it all so he has the logs
[12:20] Atticus: keep it between you and i that i'm forwarding this though, please
[12:23] Adam Ant: well, your responses were perfect
[12:24] Adam Ant: it's that we are a team, and as you said .. look how his "subjective opinions" ended up on the boards .. now Pix and Akirus need to address thos issues.
[12:25] Adam Ant: I don't want him to quit, but I do want him to understand what he can and should not be talking about.
[12:37] Adam Ant:  I need to run to a thanksgiving feast .. we'll talk later.
[12:37] Adam Ant: have a good day!
[12:37] Adam Ant: gobble!
[12:37] Atticus: you too ;)
[12:38] Adam Ant: brb
[13:24] Atticus: cassandra should have ICQed you by now, but in case he didn't....
[13:24] Atticus: he decided to resign.
[13:24] Atticus: staff access has been revoked from forums
[13:24] Atticus: you'll have to handle the game account
[19:16] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Nov 22 19:16:19 2007.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Nov 23 15:44:27 2007
[15:44] Adam Ant: alright, thanks [Offline Message (11/23/2007 [4:05])]
[17:10] Atticus: (Link: http://eleador.com/government.asp)http://eleador.com/government.asp
[17:10] Atticus: nice catch.... I'd like to do a couple of the Seymour the Seeker of Adventure quests with these guys when i find them, if that's ok.
[17:14] Adam Ant: yes. that would begood :)
[17:14] Adam Ant: You was how I 'reported' hium?
[17:14] Adam Ant: *him
[17:15] Atticus: ya, i got the report
[17:15] Adam Ant: I use report sometimes to catch intersting stuff
[17:15] Atticus: not a bad idea
[17:15] Atticus: do you get reports too?
[17:15] Adam Ant: yes
[17:16] Atticus: hmm
[17:16] Atticus: i may need to put major seering aside and work on something i have planned for my more evil alter ego...
[17:17] Atticus: in the form of a large guild... could be a good thing to do with this influx.
[17:18] Adam Ant: yep, sure could
[17:19] Atticus: people will gripe about a major lack of seer events, though. hmm
[17:19] Adam Ant: yep. that's true 
[17:21] Atticus: Well, I think i have a pretty good understanding of the intricay's of both the mechanics and player interactive parts of the job... I think i could handle training another seer to at least host simple events for a while.
[17:21] Adam Ant: it's not that easy
[17:21] Adam Ant: look what a poor judge appropriatness Cassandra turned out to be
[17:22] Atticus: aye, that is true.
[17:22] Adam Ant: it's not usually a matter of training. it's usually finding the right person
[17:23] Atticus: i think cassandra could have learned if he stuck around, though. And his mistakes can serve as perfect examples for training a seer.
[17:25] Atticus: but he didn't, so, moving on.
[17:27] Adam Ant: well, he told me in a final message he didn't like pixie's YES / NO answers and couldn't live like that or something .. he thinks he should be able to talk freely and that's just wrongheadedness
[17:27] Atticus: ya, thats wrong on a few levels, that i tired explaining to him.
[17:27] Atticus: tried*
[17:27] Adam Ant: and THAT is what we need to find as a natural aspect of a candidate
[17:29] Atticus: hmmm, if I could just...
[17:29] Atticus: somehow clone myself...
[17:29] Atticus: you dont know anything about all of this "cloning" jargin, do you?
[17:29] Adam Ant: not much, no .. but I know there has been a new stemcell breakthrough
[17:30] Atticus: aye, skin stemcells
[17:30] Atticus: my brothers a biologist, i get to hear all sorts of stuff like that ;)
[17:30] Atticus: hmmm... my i can get HIM to clone me.
[17:31] Adam Ant: as long as you don't mind the arm growing out of your neck
[17:31] Atticus: hmm
[17:32] Atticus: if i had the third arm, and it was a "right" arm, would i be considered ambidextrous?
[17:32] Atticus: if so, i could live with it.... it would make for interesting conversation. If not, then no, i couldn't. Who wants to talk about some useless third arm?
[17:33] Atticus: "oh, you have a third arm. What do you do with it?"
[17:33] Atticus: "... nothing." 
[17:34] Atticus: anyways, Burly wants to be a seer, and i think his events would be pretty fun.
[17:35] Atticus: I'll try to casually coax him into doing some court sessions with his counselor, and keep an eye on him.
[18:04] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Nov 23 18:04:47 2007.
[18:06] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Nov 23 18:06:05 2007.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Nov 24 11:10:29 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Nov 24 11:10:42 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Nov 24 11:43:01 2007
[11:43] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565237#Post565237)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565237#Post565237
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[13:38] Atticus: did you ever deed those graves?
[14:23] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565260/Main/47357/#Post565260)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565260/Main/47357/#Post565260
[14:23] Atticus: ^important... house breakin bug.
[14:39] Adam Ant: I'm lookintg at the exploit now...
[14:39] Atticus: i'm talking to the guy that told burly about it
[14:40] Adam Ant: what does this mean? did you ever deed those graves?
[14:40] Atticus: the ones i built on test center
[14:40] Atticus: werent you going to make those addons?
[14:40] Adam Ant: no
[14:41] Atticus: oh
[14:41] Atticus: ok
[14:43] Adam Ant: get tme the coords? I'll do it today
[14:43] Adam Ant: I thought it was more of a "Gee, look how cool these look!"
[14:43] Adam Ant: :P
[14:43] Atticus: i don't care. I just thought you told me to make them on test.
[14:43] Atticus: i assumed it was so you could deed them
[14:44] Adam Ant: well yes.. but only to save you time should they me complicated and time consuming
[14:44] Adam Ant: but I assume it's not worth the hassel?
[14:44] Adam Ant: you tell me :P
[14:45] Atticus: nah, i'll buildem from scratch
[14:45] Adam Ant: :)
[14:45] Atticus: was going to do that already, then burly icqed about the house thing
[14:45] Adam Ant: what a stud!
[14:45] Adam Ant: :P
[14:45] Atticus: 
[14:45] Atticus: ok
[14:45] Atticus: so, house breakin bug
[14:46] Atticus: the guy that burly heard from told BURLY, not his counselor
[14:46] Adam Ant: I'll fix, you and burly test .. deal?
[14:46] Atticus: so, i had a talk with him and asked that he keep the information between him and staff for now
[14:47] Atticus: puzzling thing was, he confessed that he originally abused the bug, then felt bad and returned the stuff
[14:47] Atticus: with medin as an accomplice, so you might want to look into their logs
[14:47] Atticus: medwin
[14:48] Adam Ant: first things first
[14:48] Adam Ant: I need to fix it asap
[14:48] Atticus: agreed
[14:48] Adam Ant: please coordinate with burly for testing in an hour or so
[14:48] Atticus: burly has already tested it.
[14:48] Atticus: and verified that it DOES work, and that it CAN be used to loot houses
[14:49] Adam Ant: shh!
[14:49] Adam Ant: I'm working!
[14:49] Atticus: i'm drinking a margarita
[14:49] Adam Ant: !
[15:01] Adam Ant: have you seen the exploit?
[15:02] Atticus: no
[15:35] Adam Ant: can you break away to test with burly?
[15:37] Atticus: sure
[15:37] Atticus: you mean the fix?
[15:37] Adam Ant: yes, it's ready for testing .. can you message him and set it up?
[15:37] Atticus: sure
[15:37] Atticus: anything we should know?
[15:38] Atticus: or will it just seem "not broken"?
[15:38] Adam Ant: correct
[15:39] Adam Ant: it should just seem not broken
[15:39] Atticus: righto
[15:39] Adam Ant: let me know results soon as I want to merge it ASAP
[15:39] Adam Ant: server's up!
[15:39] Atticus: ok
[15:49] Atticus: works
[15:49] Atticus: banage ressing now checks for z axis
[15:49] Atticus: "you are not close enough"
[15:49] Adam Ant: did you get a message?
[15:49] Adam Ant: :D
[15:50] Adam Ant: I was considering an insta kill and teleport to trammel, but this works :P
[15:50] Atticus: for now
[15:54] Atticus: ok, so i got someone paging me about some stuff with the [new] tower location
[15:54] Atticus: and, i got a bankfull of donation gold that i collected after we first talked
[15:55] Atticus: so, i gotta ask again, what's the score with the [new] stuff? if it's not going to go in soon, that's fine, but i need to know so i can get things rolling
[15:56] Adam Ant: remind me of where we left off
[15:57] Atticus: with a script request to add an option to guildstones that give guildmasters the option to turn guild flagging on and off
[16:05] Adam Ant: hmm .. okay
[16:05] Adam Ant: yeah .. let me have another look
[16:07] Atticus: ok, great.
[16:30] Adam Ant: Why does Burly have senior staff access?
[16:30] Atticus: he doesn't
[16:30] Atticus: i moved it there
[16:30] Adam Ant: :)
[16:30] Atticus: he was trying to get ahold of a dev, but nobody was responding.
[16:31] Atticus: so i had him post it in the staff forum, so that i could move it to a more secure forum
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Nov 25 17:57:37 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Nov 25 18:17:14 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Nov 25 20:58:47 2007
[20:59] Atticus: coby's paging asking why he's in jail.
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[13:21] Adam Ant: fyi: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565620#Post565620)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565620#Post565620
[16:32] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565434/Main/565434/#Post565434)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565434/Main/565434/#Post565434
[16:37] Adam Ant: looks good
[16:37] Adam Ant: sounds fun too !
[16:38] Atticus: sounds like a pirate guilds gonna be built again :P
[16:38] Atticus: which means I don't have to build one, lol.
[16:39] Adam Ant: I've always liked the pirates 
[16:40] Atticus: me too, that's what i was gonna try to start to build some interaction with those KoE guys you linked to
[16:44] Atticus: Coby is at brit west... char: Aesop
[16:45] Adam Ant: kk, ty
[16:45] Atticus: we have the handy advantage of knowing his board identity atm, so i'm leaving him unbanned from the forums
[16:45] Atticus: so that we have something to cross check his current IP against.
[16:45] Adam Ant: logged?
[16:46] Atticus: not from the [reports.
[16:47] Adam Ant: no, I mean he does not seem to be in game any more
[16:47] Atticus: he's in ocnivelle now
[16:47] Atticus: ah, yea, he logged
[16:50] Atticus: tournamentwinner.... looks like he's making mass chars to farm newbie gold
[16:51] Adam Ant: different IPs?
[16:55] Atticus: havn't checked if they're alternating, but there's a good deal of time in between chars. probably while he retarts his modem.
[16:55] Adam Ant: check the IP and compare it to the one coby is using on the boards
[16:56] Atticus: first one matched completely "aesop something"
[16:56] Atticus: didn't check the rest.
[16:56] Atticus: other than the first part i know... 66.68.
[16:57] Adam Ant: put watches on them
[16:57] Adam Ant: [watch
[17:03] Adam Ant: I need to know the pattern of the IP .. I think I can block a partial, but would prefer to not block too large of a range...
[17:03] Adam Ant: usually a modem restart only changes the last octet .. so I need the 3rd octet
[17:04] Atticus: i've watched his IP for a long time, it's always 66.68.1
[17:04] Adam Ant: so .. 66.68.someting
[17:04] Atticus: hold off on it though so i can verify the 1
[17:04] Adam Ant: okay, how many have been created about?
[17:05] Atticus: i don't know, but i saw him try to make a check for 4.9k.
[17:06] Atticus: ya... 66.68.1
[17:08] Adam Ant: but that wasn't his IP yesterday
[17:08] Adam Ant: it was 66.68.155 or 66.68.144
[17:08] Atticus: right
[17:08] Atticus: 66.68.1 is just the part that doesn't change.
[17:08] Adam Ant: or not '1'
[17:08] Atticus: i thought thats what you meant?
[17:08] Adam Ant: but 1something
[17:09] Atticus: right... sorry, .1something
[17:09] Adam Ant: kk
[17:09] Adam Ant: I'll firewall the range for a couple days .. but we can't leave it like that
[17:09] Adam Ant: maybe a week
[17:09] Atticus: hmm
[17:09] Adam Ant: just anough to discourage him
[17:10] Atticus: maybe we can annoy him off the shard :P
[17:10] Adam Ant: no chance
[17:10] Atticus: wait for him to get settled in, then hit him with the banzor
[17:10] Atticus: :P
[17:10] Adam Ant: he can cause more trouble for us than we can for him
[17:10] Adam Ant: also, remember he likes a challange
[17:11] Adam Ant: I don't want a pissed coby putting all of his energy into trying to fuck the shard over
[17:12] Adam Ant: crap .. the firewall system does not accept 'patterns'
[17:12] Adam Ant: it turned 66.68.1 into 66.68.0.1 :\
[17:12] Atticus: drag
[17:13] Adam Ant: can you please write up an SR for pixie to enhance the firewall tool to accept partial IPs
[17:13] Atticus: sure
[18:46] Adam Ant: have you played with your STRBonusCap variabl yet?
[18:46] Atticus: no, havn't been on much this weekend
[18:47] Atticus: friend came into town from tennessee
[18:47] Adam Ant: kk
[18:47] Adam Ant: nice :p
[18:47] Adam Ant: well, it's there when you're ready
[18:47] Atticus: ya.... was a good weekend
[18:47] Atticus: hmm, something changed from last time i used it... but i cant remember
[18:48] Adam Ant: it's on the mobile now and not the weapon
[18:48] Atticus: ah, that's right
[18:48] Atticus: hopping on TC now
[18:49] Atticus: it's on prod now, too?
[18:50] Adam Ant: yes .. but best to test on TC
[18:54] Atticus: ALL players should have 0 SBC, right?
[18:54] Atticus: at all times?
[18:56] Adam Ant: yes .. and all creatures unless you spcifically change it
[18:56] Adam Ant: 0 means 'default'
[18:57] Atticus: well, i found 2 players on prod with 140 within like 5 checks
[18:57] Adam Ant: oh.. yeah, it's 140
[18:57] Adam Ant: :o
[18:57] Adam Ant: I forgot
[18:57] Atticus: why are some 0 and some 140?
[18:57] Adam Ant: I need to read my notes .. or you could!
[18:58] Adam Ant: go read my notes and tell me what they say :P
[18:58] Adam Ant: (in dev archive)
[18:58] Atticus: they say everyone should be 0... thats what you told me in icq at least
[18:58] Adam Ant: (working on a vendor exploit atm)
[18:58] Atticus: ok
[19:03] Adam Ant: so .. 0 means use the old STR based calc .. 140 means to cap it at 140 .. either should be fine for players....
[19:03] Adam Ant: This is what tyou need to write up!
[19:03] Adam Ant: so that we don't forget
[19:03] Atticus: i was going off our icq conversation, i didnt know you had that stuff in the dev forum
[19:03] Adam Ant: Seers need to explicitly set it when making player-champs
[19:04] Atticus: right
[19:04] Atticus: ok, i'll run around more and make sure everyones 0 or 140
[19:04] Adam Ant: they will be :P
[19:05] Atticus: found one! already! strbonuscap: 1,000
[19:05] Adam Ant: *slaps*
[19:05] Atticus: :P
[19:14] Atticus: seems to be working ok
[19:14] Adam Ant: do you know many vendor owners and do you know much about vendors?
[19:14] Atticus: hmm, last time i ran a vendor was to sell my stolen goods on OSI like.... 5+ years ago
[19:15] Atticus: what do you need to know?
[19:15] Adam Ant: okay, well .. here's what I'm asking.....
[19:15] Adam Ant: I fixed an integer overflow bug in vendors (thanks coby)
[19:15] Adam Ant: the results is this:
[19:16] Adam Ant: If anyone out there us using the exploit (to get near free vendor fees), they will be hit with the REAL feens after the restart... 
[19:17] Adam Ant: we're talking 4,294, 986 per UODay for 2+billion in vendor goods
[19:17] Adam Ant: so...
[19:17] Atticus: so you want to know who's going to get burned from this?
[19:17] Adam Ant: well, sort of
[19:17] Adam Ant: yeah
[19:18] Adam Ant: anyone using this exploit will probably have thei bank account drained, then their vendor will die
[19:18] Adam Ant: I'm just more wondering if you thought anyone was using it
[19:18] Atticus: i report stuff like that
[19:19] Atticus: so, no.
[19:19] Atticus: i have no idea who is using it.
[19:19] Adam Ant: (if anyone)
[19:19] Adam Ant: ok
[19:19] Adam Ant: keep it quiet until I publish
[19:22] Atticus: god, coby must have like 50 forum accounts
[19:22] Atticus: he made his new one before he reset his modem from his old IP just now :P
[19:22] Adam Ant: well those we can ban a range on (if we want)
[19:23] Atticus: no, lets leave him... if we know his forum account we have a constant record of his IP
[19:23] Atticus: so we can check with total knowledge of who he is from here on out.
[19:23] Atticus: no scandals.
[19:23] Adam Ant: good thinking
[19:23] Atticus: he is currently: [hYd] Fiya[hYd]
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[04:53] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565767/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565767/gonew/1#UNREAD
[04:53] Atticus: did you agree to any of the stuff he's saying staff is doing durring the event?
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[09:09] Adam Ant: Staff should not: 
 1. decide how long the events lasts 
 2. decide on when and whewre the pvp occures after 
  
 or anything else .. staff should not be involved to a degree where we will be expected to 'manage' anything. 
  
 What we can do is: 
 1. say a few words on Grimm or the new area (if so desired.) 
 2. I can setup a guarded region there .. staff can turn on/off guards as the event starts/progresses.
[09:11] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565817#Post565817)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565817#Post565817
[11:52] Adam Ant: [K ^T elite] Nazi skin heads are worse than the blacks cause you think your achieving something through ignorance atleast the blacks know there stupid and ignorant LOL 
 
 
 
 
 
 I love how this shit gets by on a daily basis. 
[11:52] Adam Ant: Banner just PM'ed me that .. can you see if you can locate the post and address it please?
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[14:36] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565890#Post565890)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=565890#Post565890
[15:46] Atticus: We got the message about what the stone should read, and we'll set it accordingly. 
  
 However, in your announcement you're stating that staff is going to be making a lot of decisions about how the event will go, and we can't do that. This has to be your guys' event, and you need to decide what it is you want us to do. If you would like us to open some gates to your township after the ceremony, we can do that. We can also add some guards to the ceremony area to limit griefing, then turn them off afterwords for the celebration. But it is you that needs to decide on that. 
  
 Please, send a draft of exactly what it is you would like to happen for this, and we will try to make it happen. 
  
 For example: 
  
 At XX:00pm players will enter the area. The area will have guards in it then, and we will do this in that time. 
  
 At XX:15pm The guards should be turned off, and the area turned into a no count zone, with an announcement. 
  
 etc. 
  
 Please, believe me when I say I would like nothing more than to just open all of our resources to you and your friends for this, and that thinking of how we can get this event to work has been very hard, and that is because we would like nothing more than to say "yes, what ever it is you need, we will do it." But we really can't do that.
[15:47] Atticus: send or dont send?
[15:48] Adam Ant: sure .. looks good
[15:49] Adam Ant: I'll go create the region .. and place the controller in the usual place
[15:59] Atticus: i can create a region, that's alright
[15:59] Adam Ant: well, ok
[15:59] Adam Ant: just be careful :P
[16:00] Adam Ant: also .. what will you call the region, and what will be the enter and exit messages?
[16:04] Adam Ant: be sure to name it as per my normal naming guidelines, and put it in the fenced area on GA for all region controllers (You need to 'name' the region controller itself so that when clicked we have an idea what it controlls.)
[16:04] Atticus: event region, "welcome to the event region"
[16:04] Adam Ant: nah
[16:04] Adam Ant: this will be thew player memorial region
[16:04] Adam Ant: forever, and has nothing to do with this one - off event
[16:05] Atticus: right, but in my mind, i picture the region being off, except for ceremonys
[16:05] Adam Ant: so when you enter I want you to get a message that you are entering a "sacred area" or some such thing
[16:05] Atticus: so that the area will stay a neutral area
[16:05] Adam Ant: no, it will remain on
[16:05] Atticus: ok
[16:05] Adam Ant: just the guards will be off for events
[16:06] Atticus: and on all the rest of the time?
[16:06] Adam Ant: yes
[16:06] Atticus: ... not sure a guarded area in the middle of the woods is a good idea
[16:06] Adam Ant: no
[16:06] Adam Ant: guards are only on during memorial services
[16:07] Atticus: ok
[16:07] Adam Ant: the region is on the rest of the time .. guards are off
[16:07] Atticus: sounds good
[16:07] Adam Ant: be sure to look at how phrasing and capitolization is handled in other regions. make this region mimic those constraints
[16:11] Atticus: maybe you should do this :P i dont want to mess something tiny up for something like this
[16:11] Adam Ant: youll be fine :o
[16:12] Atticus: never want to do this again :P
[16:12] Adam Ant: yeah .. sad time
[16:13] Atticus: ok, well, i dont have time for the region right now. I'll try to track down the bigot from your message earlier 
[16:13] Atticus: then i gotta go
[16:14] Atticus: btw- funny that banner is the one complaining about undermoderation
[16:15] Atticus: hmm, looks like the message might be from the shout box, though... not sure we can track that
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[19:01] Atticus: Noticed that you were talking about chessy. Well, we come from GL. We want to get more RPers over here, so this is how we plan to do it, this is a post from our private board, quoted verbatim: 
  
 I call it Operation Exodus and it's an idea on how to get people to move from official OSI shards (especially Great Lakes) to Angel Island. People are thirsty for RP, the RP on the official shards has gotten stale and old. RP will bring the people here. Nostalgia will do the rest. 
  
 We are going to have a blitzkreig of Roleplay. I'm talking events, battles, craft fairs, stuff at Cromwell's new Tavern. We're going to take screenshots. Lots of them. Got a number in your head? Double it. We are going to write stories to accompany these screenshots, but stories can be exaggerated, screenshots paint a picture that people want to jump into. 
  
 We are gong to have an OSS vs Orc battle to kick things off. I talked to Marcus and I talked to Ne'rull and they both think it's a great idea. We are going to have a giant battle against the orcs sometime in the very near future, complete with RP. "Hold fast, Knights!" "Clomp da humies!" Explosions, spells, krimps. These screenshots are gonna give any RPers from back in the day tighter pants. We will continue being screenshot intensive for at least through Christmas. 
  
 We are going to put these stories and pictures everywhere. Tomesofsosaria, ds180.net, stratics, anywhere that will take em. People are going to see these shots and be like "Woah, why didn't I see that? Where is this happening! RP is appearing from no where! Frick, I wish I was involved!" 
  
 At the bottom of every story we will attach an ammendum: "If you would like to be involved in the next event, send me a pigeon at 42859902" (my icq). When people contact me, I'll tell em to wait for the next story. By the end, I will be telling people that this isn't happening on OSI servers at all, it's happening on AI, the unofficial RPvP server. We send em to game-master.net and let the mainpage seduce them with tales of the past, as well as their knowledge of all the stuff we have going on here. 
  
 Let's make Angel Island the California Goldrush of RP.
[19:02] Atticus: this guy has me itching atm...
[19:04] Atticus: if this guy can pull this off, i'll bet we can get YEW back, too...
[19:04] Atticus: and i dont know if you've kept an eye on them, but they're absotively friggin' huge on hybrid.
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[19:05] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=566448#Post566448)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=566448#Post566448
[19:17] Adam Ant: Yogi I like the event, but I give out christmas presents each year and your gifts overlap with those gifts
[19:17] Atticus: im not yogi :P
[19:17] Adam Ant: I know .. it's your event
[19:18] Adam Ant: Felix
[19:18] Atticus: ;)
[19:18] Adam Ant: Felic's Reindeer BBQ
[19:18] Atticus: i know, was just joking
[19:18] Adam Ant: Also, I like "Christmas" and not Holliday .. *hates political correctness*
[19:19] Atticus: so do i....
[19:19] Atticus: i just copied that from the snowball event proposal
[19:19] Adam Ant: I had Weaver rename all the Holliday Trees back to Christmas trees ;p
[19:19] Atticus: these prizes were given out 2 years ago.
[19:20] Atticus: i'm just not sure what you mean by "overlap"
[19:20] Adam Ant: maybe they were .. but since then I've created gifts that include at lease some of these gifts (the candle for sure)
[19:20] Adam Ant: thay can't overlap
[19:21] Atticus: oh, i see what you mean.
[19:21] Atticus: you dont give out the candle of truth in the deeds, do you?
[19:21] Atticus: the really nice looking red candle with gold base?
[19:21] Adam Ant: you know the santa and christmas elf ticket system?
[19:21] Adam Ant: (been doing it for 3+ years
[19:21] Atticus: ya, you give out the regular candles in different colors for those
[19:22] Atticus: the candle is that list is far... far different
[19:23] Adam Ant: well then that would be ok .. but I would want to see it first along with any naming and huing
[19:23] Adam Ant: also I have a standard naming and tagging system .. I would want to use those as well where appropriate
[19:24] Atticus: ok, that's written out somewhere.
[19:24] Atticus: i'll be sure the names get the proper format.
[19:24] Atticus: could you check to make sure the christmas wreath isn't in the gift boxes, though?
[19:24] Adam Ant: yeah .. let me check and see what's in there
[19:24] Atticus: i'm 80% sure it isn't, but i could be wrong
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[17:00] Adam Ant: so no region for the cemetary?
[17:00] Adam Ant: the event is in line an hour
[17:00] Atticus: ya, was just getting to it
[17:00] Adam Ant: I can do it .. just say the work
[17:00] Adam Ant: *word
[17:01] Atticus: been busy since we talked about it
[17:01] Adam Ant: geez nothing like waiting till the last minute :P
[17:01] Atticus: but, didnt forget
[17:01] Adam Ant: no time to test
[17:01] Atticus: heh
[17:01] Adam Ant: I'll do it
[17:01] Atticus: ok, i'll watch
[17:01] Adam Ant: I wanted you tohave time to test
[17:01] Adam Ant: but since you have never done one, it's too risky
[17:01] Atticus: what needs testing?
[17:02] Atticus: other than the entry message
[17:02] Adam Ant: well, for a newb .. there is some important oddities .. like changing things will sometimes turn guards on when they were previously off ... 
[17:02] Adam Ant: but we'll chat later .. I want to get this done
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[14:15] Atticus: nm, ignore link
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[14:56] Atticus: can i more or less completely pirate another website and switch things around to make it an AI page?
[15:33] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=566914#Post566914)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=566914#Post566914
[15:34] Atticus: to view it how it would show on the portal page, edit the post, then click preview.
[16:19] Adam Ant: yeah, that looks nice
[16:19] Atticus: so, i can use it?
[16:19] Adam Ant: it's a theme right? .. or is it just HTML you pirated?
[16:20] Atticus: html i pirated :P
[16:20] Atticus: but, in my defense, the guy posted it to be pirated, i think
[16:21] Adam Ant: well, by issue is that this bullitin board software has a 'plug-in' system for themes .. so if we're going to change themes, I want it to be via that mechanism (not a hack around)
[16:21] Atticus: this isn't for the whole forum, just the front page.
[16:21] Atticus: but, if you'd like, i can do some other crafty stuff very easily...
[16:21] Atticus: such as make the link tables match the front page
[16:22] Atticus: and change all the purple on the forums to yellow, so that it all matches a little
[16:22] Adam Ant: do you undertsnad what my worries are?
[16:22] Atticus: but, that's probably the hack youre talking about
[16:22] Adam Ant: you need to understand what our theme system is capable of BEFORE making HTML changes
[16:23] Atticus: oh, it's not an html change.
[16:23] Atticus: it will work like it works right now. I'll make the post in the front page forum, and it will just display on the portal page
[16:23] Adam Ant: I don't want to do something in HTML that could be done in the theme system (and thus be something we can turn on elsewhere)
[16:23] Atticus: exact same as we're doing now
[16:24] Adam Ant: you are using a non-portable - non UBB theme on the portal page that is non standard and cannot be used elsewhere
[16:26] Adam Ant: if this is you desire, and we are all aware of it and think that's best .. then we can make that decision .. however I want you to understand the UBBThreads Theme system before hacking pages to get a certain look
[16:26] Atticus: well, there's a less hack of a way, but you didn't like that before
[16:27] Adam Ant: you stil seem to be dancing around the core issue ... 
[16:27] Atticus: i think i just dont get it 
[16:27] Atticus: remember, i dont know anything about this stuff :P
[16:27] Adam Ant: and that is you understanding the system we have and FIRST asking the question "Does it do what we want"
[16:28] Adam Ant: I'd like you ti understand the theme system so that you know first hand "Yes it will do that", or "No it won't do that, but I can make a compatable tweak"
[16:29] Adam Ant: What I'm really saying is this...
[16:29] Atticus: you lost me again...
[16:29] Adam Ant: (still my turn) :P
[16:30] Adam Ant: I like the look .. but if you were using a real UBBTheme we could turn it on/off on any forum we wanted .. we fould reformat using the built-in UBB tools and the THEME WOULD STILL BE THERE
[16:30] Adam Ant: *could
[16:30] Adam Ant: the think you have there is a simple HTML insert is is not compatable with the UBB theme system
[16:31] Adam Ant: and as such .. will remail a 'one-off' page on the site
[16:31] Atticus: right.
[16:31] Adam Ant: *remain
[16:31] Atticus: because it uses images for its borders and such.
[16:31] Atticus: i think?
[16:31] Adam Ant: no
[16:31] Adam Ant: you can add images to the UBB theme system
[16:31] Adam Ant: the theme we use today required that we upoad several images
[16:32] Adam Ant: (I forget for what exactly)
[16:32] Adam Ant: if you *knew* the UBB theme system, you would know how to make this a 'bona fife' UBBThreads theme that would could use through the site
[16:33] Atticus: ok, i dig.
[16:33] Adam Ant: you still lost or do you get what I'm saying?
[16:33] Atticus: i know what you mean, but i dont know exactly how to do it.
[16:33] Adam Ant: that's fine
[16:34] Adam Ant: not knowing how is WAY better than not knowing it's there
[16:34] Atticus: well, i know how to theme the link tables and such, thats just a mtter of adding an insert to the left side, but as for making the shout box, and the entire forum
[16:34] Atticus: follow the  theme, i'd have to look into it
[16:34] Adam Ant: yes.. now
[16:35] Adam Ant: if you go to the UBB site, there is whole forums dedicated to themeing .. and HOW TO guides, and pointers to sites that use the various themes .. or new ones that were cooked up.
[16:35] Adam Ant: question....
[16:35] Atticus: aye, that's actually where i got this page from
[16:35] Adam Ant: Was this a UBB Threads site that you took this look from?
[16:35] Atticus: one of the guys threw his front page in with the forum themes... originally i was going to upload that theme, till i realized it was all HTML and just a front page
[16:36] Atticus: then i thought "hmm, still looks good" and snagged the source :P
[16:37] Adam Ant: hmm, well if you want to use it, I suppose it's ok .. but I would greatly a theme
[16:37] Adam Ant: *prefer
[16:37] Atticus: well, either way, i would still have to use this page
[16:37] Atticus: because of the tables, and table borders and such
[16:37] Adam Ant: *nods*
[16:37] Atticus: but if you would prefer the site match the front page, i can look into that afterwords
[16:38] Atticus: which i would prefer too.
[16:38] Adam Ant: I'm big on understanding :)
[16:38] Atticus: i think our forums look purple and girly, currently :P
[16:38] Adam Ant: then learn themes man!
[16:38] Adam Ant: PS
[16:38] Atticus: ooo, in fact, i have Gizmo's icq
[16:38] Atticus: i could just pay him to do it.
[16:39] Adam Ant: well .. you mean to design a new theme?
[16:39] Atticus: yea.
[16:39] Adam Ant: because 'turning it on' is simple
[16:40] Atticus: aye, but there's no themes to match the front page.
[16:41] Atticus: i do get what you're saying, i'm just sick as a dog and it didn't click (hense me sitting around working on the forums/front page)
[16:41] Adam Ant: well, get well!
[16:41] Adam Ant: sheesh man, go back to bed!
[16:41] Atticus: i am resting :P
[16:42] Atticus: working on the forums keeps me good and bored :P
[16:47] Atticus: ok, so here's the current plan.
[16:48] Atticus: i'll update the front page for now, then start looking into adjusting the rest of the forums to match that theme.
[16:48] Atticus: I don't think it's that hard to make a theme.
[18:09] Atticus: but then again, there's no good documentation on how to do it well, so maybe we can just download a new style.
[18:09] Atticus: to match.
[18:10] Atticus: if you go to ubbcentral.com and set your default style sheet to black_and_gold, that ones pretty nice, and will match the new front page well.
[18:51] Atticus: if you like it, plz download it.
[18:52] Atticus: (Link: http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/195116#Post195116)http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/195116#Post195116
[21:33] Atticus: refresh my memory on how to upload images on g-m.net?
[21:50] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php
[23:50] Adam Ant: hey, that looks good :)
[23:50] Adam Ant: I'll need to help you upload I think .. but not tonight .. I'm bushed .. I need to hit the hay
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[13:13] Adam Ant: let me know when you're on .. I want to talk about the newbie starting point
[14:35] Atticus: i'm on
[14:36] Adam Ant: is that you that's building it>?
[14:36] Atticus: no, it's silver fox
[14:36] Adam Ant: ah
[14:36] Atticus: we're working together, i give input on design, he makes it pretty
[14:36] Atticus: why do you ask?
[14:36] Adam Ant: well, I was wondering how it was coming
[14:37] Atticus: good, i'm sort of stuck on demo's, though.
[14:37] Atticus: have you seen it yet?
[14:37] Adam Ant: yes, looks good. 
[14:37] Adam Ant: Any idea whan it will be done?
[14:37] Atticus: when we decide exactly how we want to do it.
[14:38] Adam Ant: okay
[14:38] Atticus: we're stuck on whether or not we should use the branches coming out of the main hallway or not
[14:38] Atticus: after that, it's basically just a matter of making books, which is easy
[14:39] Atticus: any sort of answer on the [new] stuff, yet?
[14:40] Adam Ant: heh
[14:43] Atticus: listen to this and tell me this isn't the crappiest start to a day...
[14:43] Atticus: I wake up to my alarm... get all ready for work...
[14:43] Atticus: go outside to start my car, and it's dead.
[14:44] Atticus: so, i have to jump my car with my battery charger..... as i'm looking for my battery charger, i see the kitchen clock says it's 2:30 in the morning, and so does my watch, and every other clock in my house, other than my alarm clock.
[14:44] Atticus: so, my alarm clock was broke, and i didn't need to be up for 2:00 hours anyways.... but i jump the car anyways, so i'm not late when it IS time to go to work.
[14:45] Adam Ant: =\
[14:45] Atticus: finish that up around 3:00.... go to bed... wake up an hour later with a splitting headache, still hacking my lungs up, get ready again, go downstairs
[14:45] Atticus: boom, cars dead again.
[14:45] Atticus: what a day
[14:49] Adam Ant: wow .. :(
[14:49] Adam Ant: I'm sorry man
[14:49] Adam Ant: ick
[14:49] Atticus: fuckin a', but it's all over now... just had to vent one last time :P
[14:51] Atticus: hey, mind if i fiddle with the portal islands a little? name, move everything to the left side, and remove the calendar on the left.
[14:52] Adam Ant: no, go ahead
[14:52] Atticus: order would prolly be.... Forums, angel island, 
[14:52] Atticus: ok
[15:07] Atticus: hmm, guess these guys are done waiting on me :P
[15:07] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/567230/Main/47541/#Post567230)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/567230/Main/47541/#Post567230
[15:54] Atticus: so, moving on....
[15:54] Atticus: did you get a chance to check out that forum style?
[17:29] Adam Ant: I saw the work you did on the portal .. nothing beyond that
[17:30] Atticus: ah, well, i figured out the css i need to know to make a theme to match the front page and all that, it's really easy
[17:30] Atticus: but the images, with their textures, etc, don't really work for a forum style
[17:31] Atticus: so, i found a style i think looks nice.... if you go to ubbcentral.com, login, and set your forum style to black_and_gold you can see the style i'm refering to.
[17:44] Adam Ant: what is it you are proposing?
[17:45] Atticus: to switch the forums to that style, and also possibly use the link table i posted in the staff forum.
[17:45] Adam Ant: here's my problem...
[17:45] Atticus: not sure we can use the gold one, though
[17:49] Adam Ant: I have presious little time >. I cannot didicate any time to something that is so low on the priority scale. This theme was picked with a number of active staff participating .. Rhiannon and pixie to be exact. To change it now, you would have to really be sure 
[17:50] Atticus: ah, ok... i dont want to step on any toes
[17:50] Adam Ant: I'm of the 'don't care' position .. I think this one is fine .. so if it's going to get changed .. you need to own the change amd make sure it's ... no
[17:50] Adam Ant: it's not stepping on toes
[17:51] Adam Ant: it's that we already went through this and it was approved
[17:51] Adam Ant: I need to be careful where I spend my time
[17:51] Adam Ant: picking the high prioprity tasks firts
[17:52] Adam Ant: right now I'm just really busy, and fixing a website no one is complaining about is not the best use of my time ;p
[17:52] Adam Ant: lets wait on this.. .
[17:52] Atticus: has nothing to do with complaints... just trying to make it look attractive to newcomers.
[17:52] Atticus: thats fine though
[17:53] Adam Ant: how big of a deal is it just so I know 
[17:53] Atticus: not as big as [new] revisions :P
[17:53] Adam Ant: I *know* the old site sucked and it really needed an upgrade
[17:53] Adam Ant: it was complained about all the time
[17:54] Adam Ant: but my feeling is that we're not there now .. so is this more of a 'it would be nice' type thing?
[17:54] Atticus: there's few complaints about them, with the main complainer being from coby.
[17:54] Adam Ant: or do you believe it will have a significant impact on attracting new players
[17:54] Adam Ant: ?
[17:54] Atticus: personally, i think the current forums are ok, purple, but ok. My plan was to just spruce it up while i'm sick and dont want to do anything else
[17:54] Atticus: yes, i think having a clean, professional looking, thought out forum/home page will aid in attracting people
[17:55] Adam Ant: of coruse .. but I'm not a designer
[17:56] Atticus: Me neither! i'm a HTML pirate... yarr :P
[17:56] Adam Ant: and I don't have the time atm (again) to undertake another large project
[17:56] Adam Ant: right .. thart's why I'm really worried
[17:56] Atticus: heh
[17:57] Adam Ant: if you were an expert and I could just hand you the job, I would have no problem .. but everything is working and 'ok' .. 
[17:58] Adam Ant: if you don't need me to play with stuff and test stuff out, ahen go for it .. otherwise it's going to need to wait as I have a lot to do and can only take high importance task that are AI related.
[17:59] Adam Ant: ack!
[17:59] Adam Ant: where is the whole left pane for the site?
[17:59] Atticus: you mean right pane?
[17:59] Adam Ant: *right pane
[18:00] Atticus: on the left
[18:00] Adam Ant: nlets return it back the way it was .,. I thought you said you were gpoing to work on the 'portal'
[18:00] Atticus: portal islands
[18:00] Adam Ant: a site design is something that it really important and i need high involvement in that
[18:01] Adam Ant: the current format doesn'y look right and I can't be doing a redesign atm
[18:01] Adam Ant: no, I like the old design
[18:02] Adam Ant: if you want to photoshop me a proposal .. that's fine .. but you are changing fundamental navagation
[18:02] Atticus: right, to make it easier.... everythings on the left :P
[18:03] Adam Ant: I don't like it .. and I really need to not be doing this right now
[18:03] Atticus: im changing it
[18:03] Adam Ant: I'm sorry I misunderstood you
[18:03] Adam Ant: but I'm not up for a redesign of core site layout without a through review
[18:05] Atticus: there ya go, back to scrunchy normal
[18:05] Atticus: i'm gonna lay down
[18:06] Adam Ant: okay, feel betrter man 
[18:06] Adam Ant: and sorry I'm so cranky
[18:06] Adam Ant: :p
[18:07] Adam Ant: (still missing calandar, and umm .. something on the right)
[18:09] Atticus: thats all that was there for the right.... i removed clutter (with your approval) a long time ag
[18:09] Atticus: ago
[18:12] Adam Ant: Ah, much better :P
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[15:11] Atticus: one of the devs pointed out that their forum ID's didn't stick out as shard staff.... i was thinking all staff get a certain title, according to their role as a team member, and an orange hue for their name?
[15:12] Adam Ant: forum positions do noty equate to in-game positions though
[15:12] Atticus: ya, i know.
[15:12] Atticus: mods/admin get mod/admin title/name hue
[15:13] Atticus: i mean for devs and GMs and stuff
[15:13] Adam Ant: I'm still confused :p
[15:13] Atticus: ok
[15:13] Adam Ant: give me a concrete example
[15:13] Atticus: taran kain and plasma currently have regular old forum accounts
[15:13] Atticus: when they post, their title and the hue of their forum name is the same as any other player
[15:14] Atticus: when they post
[15:14] Atticus: so to make them stand out as staff, which would be a good thing, i figured a title (in their cases, 'Shard Developer') and a hued name (prolly orange)
[15:15] Adam Ant: do they have a title now?
[15:15] Atticus: no
[15:15] Atticus: those 2 don't, i dont think
[15:16] Adam Ant: yeah then, it make sense
[15:16] Adam Ant: however
[15:16] Adam Ant: (here I go getting all general on you)
[15:17] Adam Ant: See if you can create a new designation on the boards for in-game staff.
[15:17] Atticus: all non-forum staff would have the same hue for their name, but prolly dif titles depending on their possition... for example "shard developer" "seer" "counselor"
[15:17] Adam Ant: Like, Moderators, and Admins .. maybe you could create another category for in-game staff
[15:17] Atticus: hmmm i'll look, but i doubt it.
[17:08] Adam Ant: you aropund?
[17:11] Adam Ant: the front page looks great :)
[18:03] Atticus: thx
[18:04] Atticus: was out getting my phone, sorry
[18:05] Atticus: would look even better with a new forum style and the link tabble :P
[18:13] Adam Ant: :P
[18:16] Adam Ant: so .. what if the system auto added new players to the list of candidates .. and the stone was moved to the newbie starting area, and there was a book that said "IF you want to join NEW touch this stone" .. or something
[18:17] Atticus: " 
 If you decided you still didn't like the auto addition to the guild, even with the toggle switch for guild flagging, perhaps we could instead make all new players (2 weeks or less) candidates of the guild, so that if they CHOOSE to join, all they need to do is double click the guild stone, and we could include such information in the starting gump for the new player starting location (which is nearly done). "
[18:18] Atticus: :p
[18:18] Atticus: so yea, that would be dandy.
[18:19] Adam Ant: and .. put the stone right there
[18:19] Atticus: hmmm.... well, if we did that, atticus would need to be able to travel to the newbie area
[18:19] Adam Ant: under the control of the newbie starting area
[18:19] Adam Ant: yeah, that's the tricky bit
[18:19] Atticus: unless you can dupe guildstones..
[18:19] Atticus: but that seems like something that would break, to me.
[18:21] Adam Ant: if you quit your guild ... is there a restriction in joining another?
[18:21] Atticus: ?
[18:21] Adam Ant: time restriction
[18:21] Atticus: no
[18:23] Adam Ant: okay, so if I just add them to the guild, and turn off friendly-fire, can we have the newbie area updated explaining 1. th3e benifits of NEW (and tell them to send a guild message), and 2., tell them how to exit
[18:24] Atticus: yup
[18:26] Atticus: i need to look at that [new] book, though. I may need to adjust it a little to be more clear about something
[18:27] Atticus: namely, getting friended to the [new] tower, which will have the same requirements i used to have for joining [new] all together
[18:28] Atticus: so, does this all mean the stuff is getting implemented?
[18:29] Adam Ant: I still have a problem with a player owning a shard asset
[18:29] Atticus: but that's the thing, it IS an asset, but without a little intervention it can't survive in any sort of productive way.
[18:30] Atticus: but i wont argue that any more, i mainly just need an answer, since there's people waiting on me for answers (and possibly refunds), but, again... my personal opinion: Good idea (and i'm good at running it)
[18:31] Adam Ant: what's the deal on the donations .. what are they for ?
[18:31] Adam Ant: explain what we came up with for the housing
[18:31] Atticus: people donate to me for different stuff, usually just items
[18:31] Atticus: like ore, weapons
[18:32] Atticus: but on ocassion, gold too... and i'm currently sitting on a large donation of about.... 750k or so that was to go twords storage upgrade
[18:32] Atticus: from flanny flynn
[18:33] Atticus: but the big thing is, there's people wanting to move into that area, and they want to start hosting tavern nights, and all this stuff.... but they asked for my consent.
[18:34] Adam Ant: so all I need to do is maki the changes to the NEW guild stone and auto add people .. you can manage the housing, and township, and whatever else (as a player)?
[18:35] Atticus: ya, the only thing that makes running [new] completely unreasonable is the fact that in order to recruit enough people into the guild for the guild to actually survive, and keep the newbies interested
[18:35] Atticus: is near impossible
[18:35] Adam Ant: okay .. I need you to be really careful that none of your powers spill over into the guild...
[18:36] Atticus: of course
[18:36] Adam Ant: it's important that players understand that this is esentially a player run guild
[18:36] Atticus: yup, already plan to include that in the book
[18:36] Atticus: (as of like 30 seconds ago)
[18:36] Adam Ant: I'll want a full writeup explaining how the only thing the shard does is auto enroll
[18:37] Atticus: Yup, that will be the first thing they read.
[18:37] Adam Ant: kk, let me look at how hard this will be
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[18:58] Adam Ant: here's what I'm thinking ... making a NoNotoriety flag to turn off all guild-notority as opposed to simply friendly fire. This will prevent War and Ally as well .. thoughts?
[18:59] Atticus: Well, we did have an ally guild in the past, which was hugely secret, succesfull, and probably upped retention a good 100%, but i'm not sure how that will work with the new system
[19:00] Atticus: the guild was called [old], and it was a transitionary/home guild for players who's 2 weeks was up in [new]
[19:00] Adam Ant: but allys can attack which is the whole point
[19:00] Atticus: they could stay in [old] 'till they found a permanent guild, or use [old] as their main guild
[19:00] Atticus: right, thats why i'm not sure it would work.
[19:01] Atticus: well, allying with them, that is.
[19:01] Atticus: how would it work exactly? we could still ally and use ally chat? but not attack?
[19:02] Adam Ant: dunno .. what do you think?
[19:05] Atticus: it's hard for me to say, i'm bias in a way, as I think the guild could function WITH guild flagging and everything, so i'm inclined to say "sure, go ally."
[19:06] Adam Ant: you needto view the problem from the same perspective I am to answer me effectively :p
[19:06] Adam Ant: What is my perspective?
[19:06] Atticus: !DANGER! !DANGER! !DANGER!
[19:06] Atticus: :P
[19:06] Adam Ant: haha
[19:07] Adam Ant: well, yes :o
[19:07] Adam Ant: can you be more specific?
[19:08] Atticus: I guess the real question i have to ask is "can [old] function without the alliance of [new], and vice versa
[19:08] Atticus: and i think it can.
[19:08] Adam Ant: no, that's not where I'm at atm
[19:08] Atticus: but your perspective, if i remember, is that if players can grief, they will.
[19:08] Adam Ant: yes
[19:08] Atticus: and i agree
[19:08] Adam Ant: so all answers must be from that perspective
[19:09] Adam Ant: because it's truth ;p
[19:09] Atticus: so, sure, that works
[19:10] Atticus: it is truth, to an extent, but i've done a lot of work to implant the idea that griefing [new] is a sin, and it's worked well so far. But, what i do agree is that if players can grief, they will... eventually.
[19:10] Adam Ant: yes, so lets not spend any more time there ;p
[19:10] Adam Ant: do we need ally
[19:10] Atticus: which is why i liked the toggle idea, but, anything will work to different degrees, i think
[19:10] Atticus: no :P
[19:10] Adam Ant: ty :p
[19:11] Atticus: np, i'll try to shorten the answer next time :P
[19:12] Adam Ant: ty
[19:15] Adam Ant: I need a cool name for guilds that are non notorioty (no war/ally) guilds .. something snappy!
[19:15] Adam Ant: like
[19:16] Adam Ant: when the GM tries to accept a war invite or ally invite, I need to give them a message (about thir guild not being allowed to do that)
[19:16] Adam Ant: Hmm .. maybe "peaceful" ?
[19:16] Adam Ant: It's a "peaceful" guild?
[19:17] Atticus: bystanding?
[19:17] Atticus: indifferent?
[19:17] Adam Ant: wussy?
[19:17] Atticus: bunchatrammys?
[19:18] Atticus: "these guys are a bunch of newbs, and do not want to war you"
[19:18] Atticus: "You're sick, stop trying to war the shard babies"
[19:33] Atticus: [new] book updated in the dev forum
[19:34] Adam Ant: ok
[19:40] Adam Ant: I'll leave corpse notority tho so guildies can loot each other .. right?
[19:40] Atticus: that sounds good
[19:44] Adam Ant: I'll also allow beneficial acts ... 
[19:45] Atticus: ok
[20:03] Adam Ant: okay, I'm restarting ... here's what I want you to test...
[20:03] Adam Ant: You'll setup a guild stone (if you don't already have one up)
[20:03] Adam Ant: and do [props on it and set Peaceful  = true
[20:04] Adam Ant: and test out all the notority, try declzring war, create an ally, accept a war, accept an ally
[20:04] Adam Ant: um .. and make sure I didn't break any of the normal stuff ... 
[20:04] Atticus: can do
[20:04] Adam Ant: after you've done a basic sanity check, invite others to come help you if you like
[20:05] Adam Ant: but if it's broken from the outset, don't tell anyone .. just tell me
[20:05] Atticus: ok
[20:06] Adam Ant: also let me know if the UI is okay, or if it needs another model
[20:06] Atticus: UI?
[20:06] Adam Ant: User Interface (how the player will interact with the system)
[20:07] Atticus: ok
[20:11] Adam Ant: alright, TC is starting up .. give it 5 .. I need to run, I'll look for you and status later
[20:11] Adam Ant: see you!
[20:11] Atticus: righto, i'll be on in about 5-10
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[20:27] Atticus: hmm, i'm not seeing "peaceful" in props, or in the guildmaster menu
[20:39] Atticus: "Good" iob alignment, maybe?
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[21:30] Adam Ant: no .. it's [props on the guildstone I believe
[21:31] Atticus: you sure you merged it?
[21:31] Adam Ant: let me see....
[21:35] Adam Ant: I merged it, but I may not have surfaced it properly
[21:35] Adam Ant: I'll need to look into this
[21:37] Atticus: ok, i need to go to bed in a minute
[21:56] Atticus: i'll test in the morning, i have to hit the sack
[22:07] Adam Ant: found it, fixed it, merging it
[22:19] Adam Ant: server's coming up now (if you're still around)
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[14:58] Atticus: ok, only thing i see wrong with the peaceful prop is that they can join the war ring, no flagging/count rules apply, though.
[15:00] Adam Ant: I'm merging a fix now that should block all those menus ... 
[15:00] Atticus: ok
[15:09] Atticus: so, i take it it's been decided that this is possible, and probable, and i'm safe to purchase and apply a storage upgrade?
[15:09] Adam Ant: yes yes yes :P
[15:09] Atticus: schaWING, 
[15:09] Adam Ant: can you test something for me
[15:10] Atticus: what's that?
[15:10] Adam Ant: make a book ingame, then use your seer to see if you can [dup it 
[15:10] Adam Ant: see if it has text
[15:10] Atticus: sure
[15:10] Atticus: gimme.... 5 minutesish
[15:10] Adam Ant: if this works, then we can have NEW books in the starting area instead of "coded" into their backpack
[15:11] Adam Ant: Agreed?
[15:11] Adam Ant: (using a template spawner)
[15:12] Atticus: sounds good.
[15:12] Atticus: and, it works
[16:13] Atticus: um, the smaghed and talus statues in britain have vanished
[16:13] Atticus: must have happened recently, as i checked them a week or 2 ago
[16:14] Adam Ant: hmm .. that sucks ;p
[16:14] Atticus: ya no kidding.... i needed info from them too :P
[16:14] Atticus: plus, i don't know their uniforms, so i can't remake
[16:15] Atticus: their spawners are gone and everything...
[16:15] Adam Ant: can you write me up an SR please
[16:15] Atticus: to do what? remake them? or...?
[16:15] Adam Ant: well, to fix what ever went wrong.. 
[16:16] Adam Ant: I don't think I had spawners .. only placed barkeeps
[16:16] Adam Ant: if we remake them, we will want to use template spawners
[16:17] Atticus: well, with spawners, it seems they always face north... which is annoying as all hell :P that's what i was going to see... but apparently the answer is: barkeeps
[16:17] Adam Ant: there is a MobileDirection flag (not the facing of the guards at wbb)
[16:17] Adam Ant: *note
[16:18] Atticus: ah, ok
[16:19] Atticus: hmm, the "direction" prop... ya, i was doing that, and they keep popping back to north... maybe TC is broke
[16:19] Atticus: not important, though.
[16:23] Adam Ant: no, it's not the "direction" prop (you are talking to enginerrs) Driection Prop is not the same as MobileDirection :P
[16:24] Atticus: aha! it's on the spawner :P
[16:25] Adam Ant: well there are tow
[16:25] Adam Ant: Direction and MobileDirection
[16:25] Adam Ant: Direction is the Items direction (in this case the spawner itself)
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[17:20] Atticus: how will the newbie area decorations and info books be merged onto prod? will i need to rebuild/rewrite everything?
[17:21] Adam Ant: um...
[17:21] Adam Ant: *hides*
[17:22] Adam Ant: it's good practice?
[17:22] Adam Ant: :D
[17:22] Atticus: it's fine, i just ask because if i'm going to redecorate, i'd like to at least save transfering the books from the playguide to the shard
[17:22] Atticus: for after the thing is approved.
[17:23] Atticus: as it will be hugely tedious
[17:25] Adam Ant: well ... 
[17:25] Adam Ant: I think
[17:25] Adam Ant: if the dupe trick works
[17:26] Adam Ant: then we can put all of them in a chect and I can do a transfer for the chest to prod
[17:27] Atticus: are you SURE? i really don't want to make 100ish books then have to remake them, then reorganize and replace them.
[17:27] Adam Ant: i'm sure as long as dupe works
[17:28] Adam Ant: so you need to test to see if you can dupe a full book
[17:28] Adam Ant: hmm .. 
[17:28] Adam Ant: heh, ingame you can book copy huh :)
[17:28] Atticus: well, i need to test to see if i can dupe libraries
[17:28] Adam Ant: no
[17:28] Adam Ant: well, maybe
[17:28] Adam Ant: but I doubt that will work
[17:29] Atticus: well, no.... can just make different chests
[17:29] Atticus: PVP chest for the PVP library, etc.
[17:29] Adam Ant: no the chests are not at all important other than the means for transfer
[17:29] Adam Ant: they will have no other significe
[17:30] Adam Ant: I don'rt want n chests .. there will be one that I move .. if you want to have multi chest in side, that's your thing .. but the transfer is a PITA and I only want to move 1
[17:31] Atticus: i'm gonna cry if this doesn't work ;(
[17:32] Adam Ant: it works I just tested
[17:32] Adam Ant: (too much talk and not enough action)
[17:32] Adam Ant: :P
[17:32] Atticus: alrighty... sounds good then.
[17:32] Adam Ant: so...
[17:32] Atticus: should be done today or tomorrow with the bulk, just need nessuno to decorate the demo room
[17:33] Adam Ant: you will want to Dupe all the books you want from the TC and toss them in a transport chest
[17:33] Adam Ant: when we are ready and happy, I will move it
[17:33] Adam Ant: however, lets wait until you are *ready*
[17:33] Atticus: 'til i'm ready for what?
[17:33] Adam Ant: when all the books are written, and ready to move
[17:34] Adam Ant: I want to move once
[17:34] Atticus: ah, ok.
[17:34] Atticus: well, it wont take long. luckily, you can copy stuff from out of game, and paste it into books
[17:34] Atticus: you have to paste in peices, though
[17:51] Adam Ant: what are NEW guild member titles?
[17:52] Atticus: the date of 2 weeks after they join the guild...
[17:52] Adam Ant: gotcha
[17:52] Atticus: so if one joined today 12/5 their date would be 12/19
[18:01] Atticus: will these bookcases decay even if i set them to "movable: false"?
[18:02] Atticus: librarys*
[18:02] Adam Ant: yes
[18:02] Atticus: well, that kinda puts a kink in things :P
[18:03] Adam Ant: why?
[18:03] Adam Ant: please explain what you are trying to do
[18:03] Atticus: put the info books in library bookcases, but if the librarys decay, so will the books
[18:09] Adam Ant: oh, they won't decay of they are movable = false :o
[18:09] Atticus: ok
[18:09] Adam Ant: nothing decays if movable = false
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[11:49] Adam Ant: Okay, I'm restarting the TC with part 2 of my NEW changes... here is what you need to test
[11:50] Adam Ant: any new character logging into TC will get the option to join new .. we currently don't check if this is in fact a newbie .. no IP address or any checking now.
[11:50] Adam Ant: That will come later
[11:50] Adam Ant: what you will be testing is that you are given the option
[11:50] Adam Ant: and that it adds you if you say YES
[11:50] Adam Ant: and does not if you say NO
[11:50] Adam Ant: and that all the tags, titles, and flagging works correctly
[11:51] Adam Ant: the NEW stone is curent;ly in my house .. so it's already setup for testing
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[14:57] Adam Ant: you around?
[14:59] Atticus: sorta
[15:00] Atticus: working on a spontanious trip to puerto rico.... what's up?
[15:02] Adam Ant: ah not much .. I was just wondering if you tried the new NEW functionality
[15:02] Atticus: nope, just got home
[15:05] Adam Ant: what's going on in Pureto Rico?
[15:06] Atticus: some friends are down there, it's been semi planned for me to meet up with them for months, but they don't have a real plan other than "go to puerto rico and wander around," so wasn't sure if it would be possible for me to meetup, because of my work schedule
[15:06] Atticus: BUT, they called me today at about noonish, and said "gtf out here, we'll pick you up at the airport," so, i'm gonna give it a shot.
[15:07] Atticus: tickets are expensive as all hell at last minute, though
[15:08] Adam Ant: I bet
[15:08] Adam Ant: well, have a greta time man :)
[15:08] Adam Ant: how long will you be gone?
[15:08] Atticus: just the weekend, i'll be back monday if i can pull this all off
[15:09] Atticus: it's hard to get ready for a trip across the country in a matter of hours :P
[15:09] Adam Ant: toothbrush, condoms, clean underware .. what else do you need?
[15:09] Atticus: a cheap flight
[15:10] Adam Ant: ah, yeah
[15:10] Atticus: think i just found one, though... oh shit
[15:10] Adam Ant: ;p
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[15:48] Atticus: aaand it's done.... off to puerto rico tomorrow at 6:00am
[15:48] Adam Ant: what did the ticket cost?
[15:48] Atticus: 400 total
[15:49] Adam Ant: not bad, I was expecting 3x that
[15:57] Atticus: me too
[16:05] Atticus: the guild tag itself will make the one on the NEW stone on production, right?
[16:06] Adam Ant: that sentense makes no sense :P
[16:06] Atticus: typo*
[16:07] Atticus: i dont know how to word it, i'm sure it will be fine, though
[16:07] Adam Ant: try!
[16:08] Atticus: guild abbreviation on prod is [New], will the tag above auto added players match? or will it be [NEW] like on test?
[16:08] Adam Ant: it will be however it is on production
[16:09] Atticus: ok, well, everything seems to be working then
[16:09] Atticus: one thing i thought of, though... could you add a check to see if a new character is from an IP/account that was "removed" from the guild?
[16:09] Adam Ant: the way it works is any character created on an account < 30 days old wil get the option
[16:10] Atticus: and if the player was in fact removed, any new chars will not get the option to join?
[16:10] Adam Ant: so you may get more than one character on an account in new (which I think is fine)
[16:10] Adam Ant: no, I can't know if they were removed
[16:10] Atticus: ok
[16:10] Atticus: and ya, multiple  chars is fine
[16:11] Adam Ant: so you maye have some policing to do ;p
[16:11] Atticus: did you get it to check IPs too?
[16:11] Adam Ant: no .. there are two problems with that
[16:11] Atticus: shite
[16:12] Adam Ant: 1. IF Lilly is already playing on the shard and Billy starts 6 months later .. shouldn't he get a chance to join New?
[16:12] Atticus: aye, but they can contact me :P
[16:12] Atticus: actually, no... billys insane, he should not be allowed
[16:13] Adam Ant: 2. the list of IPs does not include deleted accounts .. so it's incomplete
[16:13] Atticus: doesn't it take a year to delete an account?
[16:13] Adam Ant: yes
[16:13] Atticus: what i'm concerned about is someone making account after account to loot the supply boxes and such
[16:14] Adam Ant: 3. clever folks like coby can restart their modems to get around such a safeguard
[16:14] Adam Ant: I will add it if you like
[16:14] Atticus: please
[16:14] Adam Ant: I just wanted you to know of the weaknesses
[16:15] Atticus: i do, but the safeguards are much better
[16:15] Adam Ant: okay
[16:16] Atticus: preferably, it would only check the first few numbers of the ip... like 4 or 5 numbers
[16:16] Adam Ant: you are then excluding ranges
[16:16] Adam Ant: that okay with you too?
[16:16] Atticus: yes, i know they may hinder people, but they can always contact me... just make sure the range isn't TOO big
[16:17] Adam Ant: kk
[16:17] Atticus: just have to keep in mind that with how this is run, it can be destroyed easily, so some security is needed
[16:17] Atticus: even if it comes with a loss of potential productivity
[16:17] Adam Ant: I'll lope off the last octet
[16:18] Adam Ant: that is, in 123.45.67.89 
 .89 would get the axe
[16:18] Atticus: maybe the 6.89?
[16:18] Adam Ant: that is USUALLY how a dynamic IP changes
[16:18] Atticus: ok then
[16:20] Atticus: most of the newbie area is done, too. I just need to write a couple short books for the displays, and i think nessuno might still need to decorate the display room
[16:21] Atticus: idealy, that and [new] can be turned on at the same time, but [new] stuff shouldnt be turned on 'til after i'm done with it, as i wont be able to handle much more from than the forum stuff, random tasks, seering and [new]
[16:33] Atticus: ok, i gotta jump in the shower and head to the bank.
[16:34] Adam Ant: okay, have a good day!
[16:34] Atticus: i might be on later, but i'm not sure. if not, cya tuesday
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Dec 11 00:33:30 2007
[00:33] Adam Ant: I know why Talus and Smaghed got deleted .. they were owned by my char "Adam Ant" and I had to deleted him because his bankbox was bugged ..  [Offline Message (12/9/2007 [21:03])]
[00:33] Adam Ant: So there's no bug .. just an unfortunate event [Offline Message (12/9/2007 [21:04])]
[00:43] Atticus: so everything is done with [new] then?
[08:57] Atticus: " Determination of newness is a simple IP check."---- It should also check the account
[09:49] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue Dec 11 09:49:21 2007.
[09:50] Adam Ant: yep .. it's ready to go .. I'd like to turn it on right away though and not wait on the newbie area
[09:51] Adam Ant: that will give us a chance to observe it's behavior without all the added variables of the other system
[09:51] Atticus: i dont... i'd really like to lighten my load.... you have no idea how consuming [new] can be, even without having to spend time recruiting.
[09:51] Atticus: i get a lot of "hey, atticus"
[09:52] Adam Ant: you were the one puching and puching for this
[09:52] Adam Ant: *pushing
[09:52] Atticus: in fact, in it's prime, i'll hear "hey, atticus..." about every 20-60 seconds
[09:52] Atticus: i know, i still want it.... i'm thrilled its done, i just want to get the newbie area done, so i can do it right.
[09:52] Atticus: which, could possibly be today. Did you see the decorations added to the demo room?
[09:53] Adam Ant: not for about a week
[09:53] Adam Ant: you've moved it all to prod?
[09:53] Atticus: ok, well, he just added a couple little gardens in stone walls, and grass under the siege tent.
[09:53] Atticus: but, i think it looks nice, and completes the decorations
[09:54] Atticus: i just need to write a couple books touching on the demos in the demo room, and scout for a couple things to add to the library... all in all, about an hour of work i'd say
[10:00] Adam Ant: okay, sweet :)
[10:01] Adam Ant: let me know when!! I want to turn on the [New] system!!
[10:01] Atticus: me too :P i'm excited
[10:02] Adam Ant: would you be okay if.....
[10:02] Adam Ant: when you finish the deco I turn on the [New] system before I start work on the system behind the newbie starting area?
[10:02] Atticus: i'll probably be done with the TC newbie area by mid evening, and if approved, i can get it setup on prod in no time (once you get the books merged)
[10:03] Atticus: ya, that would be ok. I just want to get the stuff that will consume my time finished, so i'm not completely over worked.
[10:03] Adam Ant: sure, I underdstand
[10:03] Adam Ant: also...
[10:04] Adam Ant: if the topic of New and the guild master and YOU managing it comes up, let another staff handle it ... 
[10:04] Adam Ant: it would be too akward for you to be defending your position
[10:04] Adam Ant: (let me do it)
[10:04] Atticus: right
[10:05] Atticus: as much as people hate me for my nazi moding, i think people still trust my ability to run [new], so there wont be much of a problem.
[10:05] Atticus: but, if it comes up, i'll link you.
[10:05] Adam Ant: yep, ty
[10:07] Atticus: ok, i gotta get moving on some stuff irl. I'll be on later to finish up the newbie area, and let you know when its done, so i can set it up on prod
[10:08] Atticus: also, did you look to see if the christmas wreath was one of the christmas gifts?
[10:27] Adam Ant: no .. I'll get you a list now and reply here
[10:56] Adam Ant: Okay, please add these items to the list of standard Christmas deeds (as handed out by the Christmas elf)
[10:57] Adam Ant: Snowman, SnowPile, EternalEmbers, RedPoinsettia, WhitePoinsettia, HolidayTreeDeed, CandleLong, Cookies, GiftBox
[10:57] Adam Ant: the candles have a special hue, and the cookies have a special label
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[12:46] Adam Ant: you around?
[13:00] Atticus: i am now
[13:00] Atticus: had to get my car, i left my dome light on at the airport, just went to jump it 
[13:09] Adam Ant: ah :p 
[13:14] Atticus: did you need something?
[13:14] Atticus: you asked if i was around
[13:15] Adam Ant: well, nm on that :p
[13:15] Adam Ant: oh, take felix to the New Stone and set 'Peaceful' true
[13:15] Adam Ant: the system won't sent players there unless it is so
[13:16] Adam Ant: (it will have nother effec6t until I turn on the rest of the system)(
[13:16] Atticus: ok, but i deeded the stone right before that guy reported the possible bug of guildstones vanishing... are we sure there was no bug?
[13:16] Adam Ant: yes
[13:16] Adam Ant: he's an idiot
[13:16] Adam Ant: :)
[13:16] Atticus: well, it's bruce almity... stroms little brother.
[13:18] Atticus: done
[13:19] Adam Ant: you didn't get any warnings I take it?
[13:19] Atticus: well, at first it said i couldn't if i was trying to go to war with another guild
[13:19] Atticus: then i looked in the war list, rejected what ever guild it was that declared war, and then it let me
[13:19] Adam Ant: :)
[13:19] Adam Ant: *flex*
[13:20] Atticus: yup, good surprise to come home to after a crappy day at airports :P
[13:20] Adam Ant: how was the trip?
[13:20] Atticus: great.
[13:20] Atticus: saw the rain forest, a couple nice little towns
[13:21] Atticus: got hammered
[13:21] Adam Ant: and fine puerto rican babes?
[13:21] Adam Ant: :)
[13:21] Atticus: actually, i didnt even really SEE any
[13:21] Atticus: maybe a couple, but never in the bars
[13:21] Adam Ant: bummer
[13:21] Atticus: just spotted a few walking around shopping and stuff. i know, it was kind of fucking wierd
[13:21] Atticus: what kind of horrible island doesnt have hot chics in bars?
[13:22] Adam Ant: you need to tryt the supermarkets!
[13:24] Atticus: "ahhh, i see youre buying water melons. BTW, i'm caucasian and have a pocket full of cash, would you like to see my condo?"
[13:26] Atticus: but ya, there wasnt much time. We were driving to the sight seeing spots durring the days
[13:44] Adam Ant: haha :p
[14:39] Adam Ant: you got the list of christmas gifts?
[14:39] Atticus: aye
[14:39] Atticus: just finishing up the newbie area, then i'll add them
[14:39] Adam Ant: ?
[14:40] Atticus: to the list*
[14:40] Adam Ant: I sent you a list of standard gifts I give out each year
[14:40] Adam Ant: ah, ok
[14:41] Atticus: also, i'm gonna add a hunting area like i did with halloween to the event list (santas workshop). When i add that proposal, i'll link you, then if everythings approved, i'll announce the christmas events
[14:41] Adam Ant: alright
[14:41] Atticus: but ya, after the newbie area... it's almost done if you want to start checking it out
[14:42] Adam Ant: you there now?
[14:42] Atticus: ya
[15:19] Atticus: build it in tram on prod also?
[15:19] Atticus: reasoning: it's basically a no-play area, and building it in tram saves resources
[15:19] Atticus: and that reasoning would be added to the s tarting gump
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[15:24] Adam Ant: I don't believe building it in tram saves anyt resources .. items are items
[15:24] Atticus: aye, but dungeon space is limited
[15:24] Adam Ant: ah, yes
[15:24] Adam Ant: and you get the free tram ruleset
[15:25] Atticus: right
[15:25] Atticus: and also, no "push through" feature, which will be nice
[15:25] Adam Ant: sure, make it so
[15:26] Adam Ant: so....
[15:27] Adam Ant: currently I pop up a "join new" gump when a new player joind the shard ,,, whould that remain, should it be added to the gate back to brit, or added to pixie's gump?
[15:28] Atticus: well, my suggestion would be to add all of the new information (what is new? rules. how do i join? etc.... the book) to a gump, with an option to join at the end.
[15:28] Adam Ant: you mean add it to pixie's gump?
[15:29] Atticus: seperate gump....  
[15:30] Atticus: next gump: [new] guild on angel island is... yadda yadda... would you like to join [new]?
[15:30] Atticus: actually, that would be good for the moongate
[15:30] Atticus: but ya, i would include all of the [new] information in with it.
[15:33] Adam Ant: hmm, I don't know .. I'll need to think about that
[15:33] Adam Ant: I do not want to weave a player run service too tightly with the new player expierience
[15:34] Adam Ant: if we discontinue the New idea.. I don't want to have to rework too much
[15:34] Atticus: hmmmm.... what if we made the gump apear when they open the book about [new]?
[15:35] Adam Ant: *shrugs*
[15:35] Atticus: sounds like more coding
[15:35] Adam Ant: I'll think about that
[15:36] Atticus: ok, well, for now, lets finish the newbie area
[15:36] Atticus: the box is ready to be merged
[15:39] Adam Ant: are you there?
[15:39] Atticus: i'm on tc
[15:40] Atticus: by the GCs
[18:38] Atticus: ok... newbie area is all set (unless nessuno makes additions to the decor). It just needs books and pixies region and it's good to go
[18:38] Adam Ant: okay, I'm moving books now .. just give me a sec
[18:40] Atticus: righteo. gonna feed my dogs
[18:42] Adam Ant: okay, books moved over .. meet me on each shard and I will return your books
[18:44] Atticus: ok
[18:44] Atticus: tc first
[19:22] Atticus: back
[19:52] Adam Ant: any idea where the network status thread went?
[19:52] Adam Ant: I see two links on the main page
[19:52] Adam Ant: Network Status and Lag Reports 
 Network Updates 
 
[19:52] Adam Ant: and they both point to the Lag FAQ
[19:53] Atticus: define "main page"?
[19:53] Adam Ant: stickied in the GD
[19:53] Adam Ant: a rhiannon post on basic shard info
[19:55] Atticus: hmmm, might have something to do with when we copied the BSI forum
[19:56] Atticus: is that where it was linked from?
[19:56] Adam Ant: probably .. 
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[15:43] Atticus: (Link: http://yewmilitia.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=49357&ForumID=226801&TabID=433016&TopicID=6086340)http://yewmilitia.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=49357&ForumID=226801&TabID=433016&TopicID=6086340
[15:44] Adam Ant: *reads*
[15:44] Adam Ant: and New members auto added yet?
[15:44] Atticus: no, you sure you turned it on?
[15:44] Adam Ant: yep
[15:45] Atticus: if so, its probably because they have no idea what it is... when we get a better gump/method to inform, it will help.
[15:45] Adam Ant: yeah
[15:45] Atticus: (Link: http://yewmilitia.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=49357&TabID=433019)http://yewmilitia.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=49357&TabID=433019
[15:45] Atticus: take a look at that after you read the first post....
[15:46] Atticus: and then, if you dont mind jumping on test center and deleting what ever house "Kadull" has on it, that would be good (so i can figure out why someone  cant place their house in a spot, then get to testing pixies region)
[15:47] Adam Ant: You want to write me a 'letter' explaining all the action on AI and I'll send out a mass emailing?
[15:48] Atticus: not yet.... but  with OSS working on their stuff, yew possibly returning, and UND/shadowclan noticing it all, it might be a good idea to concentrate on RP stuff for a bit.
[15:49] Atticus: crassus (the new rogues den mod) said he would be up for moderating more RP forums (rp guild recruitment/rp discussion that you and i talked about before), so i'm gonna set those up.
[15:49] Adam Ant: I was wanting to send the message to get the various folks to login .. orcs see the email and login .. 
[15:50] Adam Ant: It's more an inticement than an announcement
[15:50] Atticus: hmmm, let me do a little something first. I finally got someone interested in reporting... maybe i can get him setup, get him reporting on a couple of the RP events/fights/encounters, and we can include something like that in the email.
[15:51] Atticus: well, thats my idea at least, email wouldn't hurt right now.
[15:52] Adam Ant: the awards system they have is pretty neat
[15:52] Atticus: i know... they're a pretty nifty little guild.
[16:00] Atticus: ok, let me know when you delete my house, i cant find the damn thing, and these guys are waiting on a reply about their house
[16:01] Adam Ant: hmm?
[16:02] Atticus: someone on prod, theyre trying to place a house but cant. it looks like it should be able to get placed, but it wont let them.
[16:02] Adam Ant: I took care of that like an hour ago
[16:02] Adam Ant: Luthorn, right?.
[16:02] Atticus: .. right
[16:38] Atticus: ok, well, i can't think of any rewards to give for the "santas workshop" i was gonna setup at the event tower (like the haunted house) that players can wear, so looks like it will just be the 2 listed already. are those approved?
[16:39] Adam Ant: didn't I comment on them already?
[16:39] Adam Ant: or onew of them at least?
[16:39] Atticus: on one of them, you said the gifts "overlapped" the xmas gift boxes, but according to the list you sent me the other day, they don't.
[16:40] Atticus: thats why you looked them up, i think.
[16:52] Adam Ant: yeah, so you're not using the giftboxes either?
[16:52] Atticus: no, they're golden boxes.
[16:54] Atticus: like strongboxes in houses... or the box the bob champ drops
[16:54] Adam Ant: kk, make sure you label them and the gifts exactly how we now label gifts (complete with a date stamp)
[16:58] Atticus: will do....
[16:59] Atticus: just answered a page from a newbie, and asked if he recieved the gump to join the NEW guild... he said he did not.
[16:59] Adam Ant: doesn't mean too much 
[17:00] Adam Ant: likely matches the address
[17:00] Atticus: of another player? I'm checking now the forums to see, but doesn't seem theres anyone who matches
[17:00] Atticus: on the forums, at least.
[17:01] Atticus: hmm, there's a couple close, but none that go as far as the last thingy.
[17:04] Adam Ant: okay, I'm getting ready tpo go out so I can't do anything with it now .. but I double checked and the system is on
[17:04] Adam Ant: I dount anything is wrong .. give it a few days
[17:04] Adam Ant: *doubt
[18:14] Adam Ant: hmm .. I may have just foiund a bug in the Auto New guild system ;p
[18:14] Atticus: super! what is it?
[18:15] Adam Ant: well...
[18:15] Adam Ant: I think I'm adding the new account's IP to the IP database before I call the function to see if the new account's IP exists in our database
[18:16] Atticus: eep! fixeth quicketh!
[18:16] Adam Ant: so when I call the function to see if this account already has a know IP, I get a 'yes'
[18:16] Atticus: there's newbs everywhere :P
[18:16] Atticus: added 3 to the stone manually just now.
[18:17] Adam Ant: yeah .. but we don't want me trying to get in tonight .. I'll merge the fix tomorrow AM
[18:17] Atticus: don't want you what?
[18:17] Atticus: you been hitting the sauce or something? :P
[18:34] Adam Ant: read it again, aloud this time :P
[18:35] Adam Ant: we don't want me (rushing) and trying to get it in tonight (booting all 60 players), fo some non emergency like this
[18:35] Atticus: ah
[18:35] Atticus: :(
[18:35] Adam Ant: hehe
[18:35] Atticus: ^ sad face
[18:35] Adam Ant: *knows*
[18:35] Adam Ant: I know it's exciting huh!!
[18:36] Adam Ant: I really want it in, but I need to think about how to do this right
[18:36] Atticus: we're getting a lot of new players, too, it seems... i didn't notice it until tonight
[18:37] Adam Ant: well, get signing them up .. I'll start looking at it .. but I'm off the the company christmas party soon
[18:37] Adam Ant: (and then I'll be worthless ;p)
[18:38] Atticus: lol, ok. stay off the tables, and look away from the light (shades)
[18:38] Adam Ant: yeah yeah .. I'm taking the wife unit, so I can't g crazy
[18:40] Atticus: hey, i always thought jade was your wife, and someone told me a couple weeks ago that was wrong... was i?
[18:40] Atticus: also, did you know that for the first year or so i was here, i thought you were adam ant the singer?
[18:40] Adam Ant: no, just my internet honey ;P
[18:40] Adam Ant: lol
[18:40] Atticus: i kept trying to get my brothers to play... "no, seriously... adam ant the rock star... it's true!"
[18:41] Adam Ant: haha
[18:41] Adam Ant: that's funny
[18:41] Atticus: "no way, this guy? (Link: http://www.multinet.no/~jonarne/Hjemmesia/Favorittartister/adam_and_the_ants/adam_and_the_ants_5.jpg)(Link: http://www.multinet.no/~jonarne/Hjemmesia/Favorittartister/adam_and_the_ants/adam_and_the_ants_5.jpg)http://www.multinet.no/~jonarne/Hjemmesia/Favorittartister/adam_and_the_ants/adam_and_the_ants_5.jpg" "YES! THAT'S HIM! He plays Ultima Online"
[18:42] Adam Ant: I like ol' AA .. that's who I neamed my character after
[18:43] Atticus: ya, he's not bad.
[18:43] Atticus: looks a little crazy, though.
[18:43] Adam Ant: you just don't understand!!
[18:43] Atticus: It was wierd seeing 'you' without "the makeup" on in the pictures you have on the boards :P
[18:44] Atticus: .... I don't know how i make it through the day alive sometimes.
[18:44] Adam Ant: haha
[18:44] Adam Ant: (rofl)
[18:45] Adam Ant: you saw my pics and STILL thought I was him? wow ;p
[18:45] Atticus: they're taken from a distance, damn it :P
[18:45] Atticus: I'll show you what made me figure it out... one sec.
[18:46] Adam Ant: (this ought to be good)
[18:51] Atticus: i can't find it... 
[18:51] Atticus: but, someone made their avatar a picture of adam ant getting arrested one day (the forum account is gone now)... but in the picture he's fat, and bald, and looks like he's high as a kite, and slightly resisting arrest
[18:52] Atticus: i saw it and was like "wtf? He just posted a few minutes ago!"
[18:52] Adam Ant: HAHA
[18:52] Atticus: then everything went grey, and i sat alone and embarrassed.
[18:53] Adam Ant: aww
[18:53] Adam Ant: :p
[18:54] Atticus: i should strap a camera to my head so i can get pictures of my face every time i realize i'm a ditz.
[18:57] Atticus: anywho, have fun at the party :P
[18:57] Atticus: and sorry i thought you were a druggy rock star :P
[19:07] Adam Ant: thanks .. I will :)
[20:03] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/569761/Main/569761/#Post569761)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/569761/Main/569761/#Post569761
[20:05] Adam Ant: I'm pretty sure if you change the body of a chicken to a deer and kill it, you will get a chicken and not deer meat
[20:06] Atticus: right. they arn't supposed to kill it, they bring it to me and i give them reindeer jerkey
[20:06] Adam Ant: ah
[20:06] Adam Ant: :)
[20:06] Atticus: I'm going to setup a grill or campfire at my station :P
[20:08] Adam Ant: ... ooh, we have some dear carcass I think
[20:08] Atticus: ?
[20:08] Atticus: for what? decorations?
[20:09] Adam Ant: for your grill .. yeah, deco
[20:09] Atticus: sweeeet
[20:11] Adam Ant: look around the savage stronghold .. and maybe the basi layer
[20:11] Atticus: ok, i'll check Pandora's box, too.
[20:12] Atticus: any objection to giving the deer a 4 word name. It would make checking to see if they brought a fake quicker (but also create a somewhat rare tame)
[20:13] Atticus: "One of Santas Reindeer"
[20:13] Adam Ant: I need to run .. we'll talk later .. 
[20:13] Adam Ant: See you!
[20:13] Atticus: laterz, have fun
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[11:08] Adam Ant: 12/13/2007 5.03.37 AM:PlayerMobile:Loc(1419,1696,0):Felucca:Mob(Valar)(0x00000221):Britain:glodeus:
[11:08] Adam Ant: that crazy looking thing is a record of a player being added to New!
[11:08] Adam Ant: :D
[11:08] Adam Ant: (the fix was merged lastnight at 2am)
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Dec 13 15:24:08 2007
[15:32] Atticus: sweet
[15:37] Atticus: hmm, you know what might be a good idea? if when you click "ok" you get a welcome message. "Welcome to the [new] guild! You can use guild chat to talk to your guildmates across the world by pressing the \ key!"
[16:41] Atticus: in fact, that would be a good way to get them the [new] guild info and rules.... if they click "ok" they get the welcome message, and the book.
[19:06] Adam Ant: ah, good .. :)
[19:06] Adam Ant: any more since the 1 this morning?
[19:06] Atticus: 1 or 2, i cant remember how many i added manually
[19:07] Atticus: 5 on the stone so far after about 1 day... so, can estimate what the roster will be in 14 days from that.
[19:07] Atticus: i'm guessing.... 30ish.
[19:08] Adam Ant: *checks logs*
[19:08] Atticus: but thinking about it, i'm not sure i like the idea of adding the book after they join... them knowing what the guild is and what it can do for them is prime knowledge BEFORE they click yes/no
[19:08] Atticus: but the welcome message would be good.
[19:09] Adam Ant: 67 online :)
[19:09] Atticus: ya... been that way a couple hours.
[19:09] Adam Ant: ooh, 3 auto added today :)
[19:09] Atticus: nice
[19:09] Adam Ant: Great system .. glad I thought of it :P
[19:10] Atticus: me too!
[19:10] Adam Ant: :D
[19:10] Atticus: :high five:
[19:10] Adam Ant: *slaps*
[19:10] Atticus: you think of some good stuff, for a druggy rock star.
[19:10] Adam Ant: lol
[19:10] Adam Ant: 69 online!!
[19:11] Adam Ant: I think I should send the mass email announcing the influx of guilds and interest
[19:11] Atticus: yup... i'm brainstorming a mini event... i'm thinking savages.
[19:12] Atticus: "savages have been performing some sort of ceremony at the crypts east of Yew. This does not sit easy in my stomach!.... etc"
[19:12] Atticus: end boss being a strong bassi
[19:12] Atticus: i'll write a proposal and post it
[19:13] Atticus: as for the email... ya, it wouldn't hurt.
[19:14] Adam Ant: kk
[19:16] Atticus: also, i think adding Sir Eleazar Hart onto staff as a reporter would be a good idea, he seems to enjoy writing, and expressed that he's interested in the role.
[19:17] Atticus: would be good to have someone updating the news stuff for once.
[19:17] Atticus: author of these stories: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565509/gonew/1#UNREAD)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565509/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/565509/gonew/1#UNREAD
[19:19] Adam Ant: yeah, looks like he can write ... 
[19:19] Adam Ant: okay, I have a first task for him .. a test
[19:20] Adam Ant: I'd like a page announcing the returning guilds and RP interest
[19:20] Atticus: nice :P
[19:20] Adam Ant: it needs to not reflect an OSS bias thought
[19:20] Adam Ant: though
[19:20] Atticus: aye, i originally told him i had concerns about that.
[19:21] Atticus: but, i think he can do it.
[19:21] Adam Ant: I'f fine with his affliation as long as he can put it aside
[19:21] Atticus: right
[19:22] Adam Ant: I had an unsolicied ICQ today starting with #158 .. is that him?
[19:22] Atticus: not that i know of
[19:22] Atticus: maybe though, i havnt talked with him over icq.
[19:23] Adam Ant: ohmm, maybe not .. here's the message: need a wayward staff member to..be of any assistance? by chance :)  

[19:24] Adam Ant: oh, it's lilly!
[19:24] Atticus: Gilah? she was on the boards today
[19:24] Adam Ant: lily!
[19:24] Adam Ant: :)(
[19:24] Atticus: oh man
[19:24] Atticus: i hope she comes back
[19:24] Atticus: where the hells she been, anyways?
[19:24] Atticus: i miss her ;(
[19:25] Adam Ant: I just sent her lots of love :)
[19:26] Atticus: that's easy to do with her... i don't know what it is, but she seems like one of the nicest ladies out there.
[19:26] Adam Ant: See if you can get Sir Eleazar Hart going on that tonight so that I can get a copy tomorrow
[19:26] Adam Ant: yep she is 
[19:26] Adam Ant: and her hubby is a goofball ;p
[19:27] Atticus: more like sociopath :P
[19:29] Atticus: 70
[19:31] Adam Ant: :)
[19:52] Atticus: 78
[19:52] Adam Ant: Woot!
[19:53] Atticus: 80... damn, wtf is going on?
[19:54] Adam Ant: this is we need that email .. pronto!
[19:54] Atticus: already PMed him :P
[19:56] Adam Ant: :)
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[21:51] Adam Ant: 85 online .. login!
[21:51] Atticus: i saw.... 9 on the [new] stone now, too.
[21:52] Adam Ant: :)
[21:52] Atticus: was at the bank and saw a swarm of orcs go by (i think)
[21:56] Adam Ant: 5 so far today auto-added
[21:57] Atticus: yea, i counted wrong, it was 8, but he resigned
[21:57] Atticus: said he liked being a newbie, which i hear a lot
[21:57] Atticus: and agree with :P i probably wouldn't join [new] myself.
[22:01] Adam Ant: yeah .. but I bet most, or at least 1/2 like the support
[22:01] Atticus: much more than half.
[22:01] Atticus: when i was doing it manually, i'd say about 85-90% of people i talked to joined.
[22:02] Atticus: if this works as well as i hope, [new] should be a pretty busy little thing...
[22:03] Atticus: in it's prime there was constant chatter in guild chat, questions asked, people planning to hunt together, questions answered by companions and new players alike
[22:03] Atticus: if it got quiet, it was sort of wierd :P
[22:05] Adam Ant: oh, did you write me up an SR to add that message and about how to use the guild chat fearure?
[22:05] Atticus: no, can do that now, though.
[22:06] Adam Ant: thanks .. give me the exact text you would like .. try to keep it very short tho
[22:17] Atticus: all done
[22:37] Atticus: ok, its late. i'm off to bed
[22:37] Atticus: cya tomorrow
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[15:39] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Dec 14 15:39:28 2007.
[16:20] Adam Ant: any idea where we are with the new player styarting area/gumps/regions, etc?
[16:29] Atticus: as far as i know it's done... pixie put it on TC the day before [new] went live... i tested everything, and everything is good
[16:29] Atticus: except there's a need for a couple alterations to the welcome gump
[19:40] Adam Ant: is pix slated to do the updates needed to bring the system live?
[19:40] Atticus: aye, i let him know.
[19:41] Adam Ant: alright, thanks
[19:41] Adam Ant: You heard back from Sir E 
[19:42] Atticus: no reply, but he read the message.
[19:42] Atticus: he DID state that he was up for the job before, though, and I DID let him know I would be asking for a writing sample at some point.
[19:43] Atticus: if i had to guess, i'd say he's just putting it together, and taking his time on it, as it's a sample for an application.
[19:44] Adam Ant: alright .. I'm heading home .. see you!
[19:44] Atticus: ok, later
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[21:15] Atticus: manually added a player to the stone tonight.... his first character was given the option to auto join, but not his second.
[21:15] Atticus: i cant remember if it was intended to be that way or not
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[21:20] Adam Ant: yes, as per your guidelines :P
[21:20] Atticus: ok, sounds like something i wouldw ant, but i thought you wanted to do it a dif way
[21:21] Atticus: couldn't remember
[21:21] Adam Ant: *works for you*
[21:21] Adam Ant: :D
[21:21] Atticus: lol
[21:21] Atticus: damn straight 
[21:21] Adam Ant: *jumps*
[21:22] Atticus: 12 on stone now
[21:22] Atticus: well, 13, but ones a double
[21:22] Adam Ant: New system (pun intended) is working well :)
[21:44] Atticus: should have made them elves :P
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[20:10] Atticus:  Hey boss, there's a handfull of orcs on... i was thinking about adding some orc spawn and a boss to the YEW orc fort, with a goldsplash at the end.
[20:10] Atticus: (with announcements)
[20:10] Adam Ant: sure
[20:10] Atticus: super.
[20:11] Atticus: i'll get on that now, before it gets late
[20:11] Adam Ant: okay
[20:11] Atticus: well, i might do it at the other fort... the new one... thats where these orcs are
[20:11] Atticus: its ronks crew
[20:22] Atticus: mind if i play the boss? would be good practice... since it isn't announced, and not a "big" event.
[20:25] Adam Ant: sure .. you using the new STR limiter feature?
[20:25] Atticus: yea
[20:25] Adam Ant: you should really practce though before you take stuff to the live shard .. mistakes here are bad news ,,
[20:25] Adam Ant: could sour people on our rebirth
[20:26] Atticus: probably do about 20k hits (that will go quickly), strbonuscap 100, mindamage: 20 maxdamage:40
[20:26] Atticus: aye, i've played with it all.
[20:26] Atticus: on tc
[20:26] Adam Ant: alrigfht
[20:26] Atticus: 
[20:26] Atticus: 
[20:27] Atticus:  ahhhh
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Dec 16 19:27:48 2007
[19:28] Atticus: a lot of the houses in the display neighborhood are lacking vendors atm, did you remove some?
[19:30] Atticus: oh, and btw: (Link: http://www.connectuo.com/index.php?page=shards&do=graphs&id=238&days=1)(Link: http://www.connectuo.com/index.php?page=shards&do=graphs&id=238&days=1)http://www.connectuo.com/index.php?page=shards&do=graphs&id=238&days=1
[19:40] Adam Ant: 91 online :)
[19:40] Atticus: wrong... 92
[19:41] Adam Ant: When I deleted one of my staff chars, it f'ed up a bunch of stuff I had setup, smaghead, crap factory, and all the preview vendors ... 
[19:41] Adam Ant: :(
[19:42] Atticus: ah, ok... well, that's a drag.
[19:42] Atticus: i'll go let her know. Any sort of eta on when you'll have them set back up?
[19:43] Adam Ant: tomorrow probablt
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[18:39] Adam Ant: alright .. I fixed the missing deed vendors from the preview neighborhood .. they will be online tomorrow
[18:39] Atticus: sweet
[18:40] Adam Ant: if you wanted to setup a couple template spawners for Smag and Talus based on the mobiles on TC, that would be great.
[18:42] Atticus: sure, i'll do that now.
[18:42] Adam Ant: thanks :)
[18:47] Atticus: hmm, just use a blessed brigand for a statue?
[19:24] Adam Ant: I usually use a bartender
[19:24] Atticus: super, that's what i ended up doing.
[19:25] Adam Ant: things line brigands will fightback, take damage, etc.. they are just the wrong creature
[19:25] Atticus: not if they're blessed, but, i went with a barkeeper anyways
[19:27] Adam Ant: I'm not saying thay can't be made to work
[19:35] Atticus: right, sorry :P i've been like that all day.
[19:36] Atticus: been working with someone the past couple weeks that keeps going over my stuff.
[19:37] Adam Ant: like at work?
[19:37] Atticus: yea.
[19:38] Atticus: been hearing a lot of "no no no, you do it like this." when my stuff is right. Basically, the job is behind, and it's not our fault (they gave us 3 days to do what would normally take 3 weeks... litteraly)
[19:39] Atticus: so, we're under a lot of pressure. I think he's getting ready to throw me under the bus, and he does it as some sort of way to validate his future actions.
[19:39] Atticus: good ol' chicago construction :P
[19:39] Adam Ant: :\
[19:39] Adam Ant: sorry to hear that man
[19:40] Atticus: nah, as long as I know what's going on I'll be fine, especially since he's pretty bad.
[19:41] Atticus: and i'm onto him ;)
[19:54] Atticus: so, what's going on with the starting area?
[21:12] Atticus: well, there's 80 online, what do you think about spawning the harrower in a dungeon?
[21:13] Atticus: kind of a big spawn, but they did it with 70ish online for the halloween event.
[21:14] Atticus: and, if announced 10 minutes or so in advance, more would probably log in.
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[12:52] Adam Ant: what's this alll about?
[12:52] Adam Ant: 12/17/2007 8.02.30 PM:PlayerMobile:Loc(4457,1171,0):Felucca:Mob(Felix Tape)(0x00019899):Moonglow:BooRadley2: 
 12/17/2007 8.02.30 PM:Ye are not forgotten, Gumshoe.
 
[15:09] Atticus: ?
[15:09] Atticus: mortal thief i made a while back, but there weren't enough targets
[15:09] Adam Ant: that was on the town crier .. I get the logs and didn't know what it meant
[15:09] Atticus: i gave gumshoe a run for his money, and with all the activity i brought him out
[15:10] Atticus: and when he ran, i hired the crier.
[15:10] Atticus: he doesnt know its me, though :P
[15:10] Adam Ant: :)
[15:10] Adam Ant: mum's the word
[15:11] Atticus: so, what's the holdup on the newbie area?
[15:23] Atticus: ah, and eleazar sent this:
[15:23] Atticus: The continent has been shaken by war. The people of Ta'kier have founded a township outside of Dungeon Despise to try and keep the peace. Murderers have run free, slaughtering the innocent and pillaging their coffers for far too long. Night after night battles were waged for this most hallowed ground. 
  
 It did not take long for the guards themselves to vacate such a tumultuous area. The murderers had soon cut off the supply lines to Britain. Lord British himself has become ignorant to the slaughter in the area. Be wary travelers, the Depise valley has become a land of certain trepidation. You can no longer add to a murderers notoriety when they sink their steel into you or adorn your fleshy mass with flames from the sky. 
  
 New guilds are springing up everyday to make a name for themselves. The drums of war are beating yet again. The orcs of bloodrock and the shadowclan have found it prudent to declare their activity across the land. The orcs have invaded townships day after day, pillaging, slaughtering and demanding tribute. 
  
 The Knights of Trinsic have declared their alliance to the savages in a bid to retake the land from what they see as greater evils. The pirates of Buc's Den have reemerged as a most terrible force, with Keke Lol'zores declaring himself mayor of Moonglow. Moonglow is no longer a safehaven for the scholarly, but a den of iniquity for the pirate and his kin! 
  
 Several guilds longing to restore order to the land of emerged as well. The Order of the Silver Serpent, the royal guards of Lord British himself have abandoned their station in Serpent's Hold in order to protect the mainland. The rangers of YEW have returned from fighting abroad to their home outside the Abbey to once again protect their lands from orcish invasion and fight the evil that is spreading like a plague. The alliance of these two guilds have most certainly benefited their quest to rid the land of evil. 
  
 The fighting in the land is as intense as it has ever been. Blood flows like streams from despise and the distant sound of metal striking metal echoes from the orcish lands.
[15:24] Atticus: I like it, but I think for a news email, there should be an OOC version, also.
[16:03] Adam Ant: you want to do the OOC version? :)
[16:04] Atticus: well, you could even just tack a little "OOC: Lots have been going on in Angel Island. New guilds are rising, old guilds are returning, activity is booming, and we hope you come join in on the fun!"
[16:04] Atticus: lots has*
[16:05] Adam Ant: okay, ... and on the new player area .. I'm probably finishing it off, but need to know exactly what were missing
[16:05] Atticus: well, if i knew what we were missing, i would have added it, lol.
[16:06] Atticus: well, first, did pixie update the gump to fit my suggestions? (include information on library bookcases)
[16:06] Atticus: and also, if so approved, the gump for [new].
[16:06] Adam Ant: probably not, I guess I can do that
[16:06] Atticus: well, i can do that.
[16:06] Adam Ant: you can do what?
[16:07] Atticus: the library bookcase... were you talking about the [new] gump?
[16:07] Adam Ant:  well, first, did pixie update the gump to fit my suggestions? (include information on library bookcases)
[16:07] Atticus: right, that's what i was saying i can do, if he didn't.
[16:08] Adam Ant: you can update a gump?
[16:08] Atticus: the text, at least... 
[16:08] Adam Ant: okay, add it to the SR and tell me where it goes and I'll add it'
[16:09] Atticus: can do
[16:09] Adam Ant: thanks
[16:42] Adam Ant: okay, all the priview houses have vendors .. 
[16:43] Atticus: sweet, shard announcement?
[16:43] Adam Ant: please
[16:43] Adam Ant: and board if you have time
[16:43] Atticus: np
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[19:34] Atticus: ok, so, i think it would be a good idea to get eleazar setup as a reporter
[19:34] Atticus: whatcha think?
[20:10] Adam Ant: yep.. lets do it .. 
[20:10] Adam Ant: you monitor him?
[20:10] Adam Ant: make sure he READS AND UNDERSTANDS the guidelines
[20:11] Adam Ant: you follow him for the first couple days to make sure he;s not tracking enimies?
[20:14] Atticus: well, isn't he only supposed to log in for events?
[20:15] Atticus: in which case, i would be pretty busy. But, if he were to report on player events and such, i could keep an eye on him
[20:16] Adam Ant: ok .. i need to run, but yeah, make sure he understand that ;p
[20:16] Adam Ant: see you in a bit!
[20:17] Atticus: ok
[22:32] Adam Ant: wow, 8 joined New today alone
[22:32] Atticus: yea, was wondering about that.
[22:33] Atticus: seems like a lot.
[22:33] Atticus: but, in total, i think we're at 36 members or so
[22:33] Atticus: 36 or 37
[22:34] Atticus: somewhere in there.... not much activity yet, though. I gotta concoct some scheme to keep more people from the first few batches on.
[22:34] Atticus: it's hard to explain... basically activity in the guild accumulates over time.
[22:35] Atticus: usually not within the first 2 weeks.
[23:02] Atticus: " I gotta concoct some scheme to keep more people from the first few batches on."  I guess i could use my seer powers and host more events :P
[23:02] Atticus: <-- always thinking.
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[08:03] Atticus: Could you setup a reporter account for eleazar?
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Dec 19 10:04:31 2007
[10:04] Adam Ant: done, acct: StaffEleazar, pass: ele123 [Offline Message (12/19/2007 [15:54])]
[10:04] Atticus: ok, i'll pass that info after he signs the staff agreements.
[10:04] Atticus: and i can train him. thanks
[10:05] Adam Ant: okay .. quiz him a bit on the main points about being staff and a reporter
[10:05] Atticus: will do.
[10:06] Atticus: i hope to host an event tonight too... savages in the yew crypts.... big basilisk or savage for a boss (i would play the savage). so, keep an eye out for that proposal ;)
[10:08] Adam Ant: alrighty
[10:08] Atticus: anyways, i gotta head out
[10:08] Atticus: i got court
[10:08] Atticus: cya later
[10:36] Adam Ant: bye!
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[15:31] Atticus: ok, elea has created his reporter on his staff account. could you give that character staff access?
[15:31] Adam Ant: Hmm?
[15:31] Adam Ant: what do you mean staff access?
[15:31] Atticus: make it a counselor, or what ever you give reporters.
[15:32] Adam Ant: any character he creates on that account will have Reporter acces
[15:32] Atticus: oh ok
[15:32] Adam Ant: he should already be a Reporter
[15:32] Atticus: sorry then
[15:32] Adam Ant: np ;p
[15:32] Atticus: i thought it was character by character
[15:32] Adam Ant: no, well .. yes.. well it can be either ;p
[15:32] Adam Ant: and both!
[15:32] Adam Ant: or neither ;)
[15:33] Adam Ant: (rofl)
[15:33] Adam Ant: ('m cracking myself up
[15:33] Atticus: lay off the smack, adam ant.
[15:33] Adam Ant: oh dang
[15:33] Atticus: or they'll put you away again
[15:33] Atticus: :P
[15:34] Adam Ant: there is a 'reporter' robe .. that's what he needs to wear 
[15:34] Atticus: yup
[15:35] Atticus: just looking at what forum group to add him to now.
[15:38] Adam Ant: You'll introducehim to staff (staff forum) when you're done?
[15:38] Atticus: yup
[15:39] Adam Ant: hey, have you ever got the guild notification "XX had joined your guild!"
[15:39] Adam Ant: or whatever I say
[15:39] Atticus: yup
[15:39] Atticus: i get it every time.
[15:39] Adam Ant: sweet
[15:39] Atticus: everythings working great.
[15:40] Atticus: with the 8 people joining the other night, i suspect we've gotten at least a handful of frauds on the stone
[15:40] Atticus: but, that's a given.
[15:40] Adam Ant: yes, but with the IP filtering, it's maybe not as bad as you think
[15:41] Atticus: i dont think it's bad at all.
[15:41] Atticus: probably just a few, and likely all coby seagram :P
[15:41] Adam Ant: heh
[15:42] Atticus: ooo, you should add 66.68.1 to the IP list, so he can't get in :P
[15:43] Atticus: but on a more serious note, out newly appointed reporter just messed up activating his account :P
[15:43] Atticus: our*
[15:43] Atticus: your*
[15:43] Atticus: :P
[15:43] Adam Ant: it's built autopmatically each time the server starts, and it includes the first 3 complete octets, like 66.68.99.*
[15:44] Adam Ant: Where the '*' is a wildcard mayching any dynamacally assigned addresses
[15:44] Atticus: can't add any specifics?
[15:44] Adam Ant: no
[15:44] Atticus: drag
[15:44] Adam Ant: not with the system I built
[15:44] Adam Ant: like I said, it's built dynamically from the existing account database
[15:44] Atticus: was kidding anyways (kinda)
[17:08] Adam Ant: can you do me a favor?
[17:08] Atticus: no
[17:08] Atticus: no... i... can... NOT!
[17:08] Adam Ant: haha
[17:09] Atticus: ... ok, i cave. whatcha need? :P
[17:11] Adam Ant: I just banned Spunky's board account
[17:11] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/admin/showuser.php?uid=3671&returntab=0)http://www.game-master.net/pit/admin/showuser.php?uid=3671&returntab=0
[17:11] Adam Ant: Please keep an eye on the board for any new accounts, and posts .. 
[17:11] Atticus: ok... who's spunky?
[17:11] Adam Ant: it was pretty sick (turned my stomach)
[17:11] Atticus: ah, ok
[17:12] Atticus: where's the post?
[17:12] Adam Ant: usually if these guys are going to try to "get us back" it would be pretty quick .. 
[17:13] Adam Ant: unfortunatly this new board doesn't let you create a copy, so I had to delete the offending post and return it to the BZ
[17:13] Adam Ant: (or if you can make a copy, I wasn't going to spend time figuring it out)
[17:14] Atticus: mods usually just move the post to forum administration
[17:14] Atticus: but, its not important... you got his ip? so i could see a range?
[17:14] Adam Ant: I did, but since it was so many pages, I didn't want to kill the whole thread
[17:14] Adam Ant: yes, look at the comment
[17:15] Adam Ant: I included his IPs and email in the comment
[17:15] Adam Ant: Banned - 12/19/07 Adam 
 Posted a baby autopsy .. really sick.
 greatphoenix@gmail.com
 74.171.90.11 
 68.47.96.59 
[17:16] Atticus: alrighty, noted... i'll keep an eye out
[17:16] Adam Ant: ty
[17:17] Adam Ant: I'm talking about new accounts on the boards btw .. not the game
[17:17] Atticus: crap, i just firewalled like 3 people
[17:17] Atticus: can you check that list?
[17:17] Adam Ant: don't mess with me :\
[17:17] Atticus: :P
[19:23] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/571580#Post571580)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/571580#Post571580
[19:34] Adam Ant: replied
[19:34] Adam Ant: I like it with two minor concerns
[19:38] Atticus: replied
[19:44] Atticus: replied
[19:48] Atticus: approved?
[19:49] Adam Ant: ye yes yes :P
[19:49] Atticus: sweet... gonna host it tonight
[19:49] Adam Ant: I'm heading to dad's see you!
[19:49] Atticus: laterz
[19:53] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Wed Dec 19 19:53:28 2007.
[20:08] Atticus: i broke out reporter.... you need to give him staff access again
[23:56] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Wed Dec 19 23:56:28 2007.
[23:57] Adam Ant: sure, I'll do it now
[23:57] Adam Ant: how many in New now?
[00:03] Adam Ant: done
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[05:38] Atticus: like 42 or so, i'll get a better count later
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[10:00] Adam Ant: hey, did you ever write down that list of christmas gifts I give out ?
[10:51] Adam Ant: I've replaced the christmas tree in the giftbox with a roast pig so that I can hand out the christmas tree *before* christmas
[10:51] Adam Ant: (done)
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Dec 20 18:24:55 2007
[18:25] Atticus: 43 on [new] stone, and no i completely forgot
[18:25] Atticus: i have the list somewhere though, i'll add it now.
[18:34] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=571781#Post571781)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=571781#Post571781
[20:49] Atticus: 90 online
[20:49] Atticus: :P
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Dec 21 17:50:02 2007
[17:50] Adam Ant: excellent, thank you :) [Offline Message (12/21/2007 [18:52])]
[18:34] Atticus: np... btw, the way i "broke" our reporter was setting him as the template for a template spawner (which i thought from bad testing would just "copy" his properties) then deleting the spawner.
[18:34] Atticus: which, deleted him...
[18:37] Adam Ant: dude, that's the kind of thing that can crash a shard
[18:38] Adam Ant: please delete that spawner, or null out the template .. no telling what will happen when that spawner tried to create a mobile from that template
[18:38] Atticus: sorry. It's something i played with using NPCs on TC when i was learning how to use the template spawners, and i read the results wrong.
[18:39] Atticus: it's deleted.
[18:43] Adam Ant: You should never use the target mode for selectiung a template .. either item or mobile
[18:44] Adam Ant: instead set the item in the spawner property list as usual, then select enable template and the system will generate a template
[18:44] Atticus: right, then edit it manually.
[18:44] Adam Ant: the target method is a byproduct of another system and not supported
[18:47] Atticus: ok, sorry.
[18:47] Atticus: i'm heading out, though.
[18:47] Atticus: i'll be around tomorrow for the xmas event
[18:49] Adam Ant: okay, have a good night :)
[18:49] Adam Ant: and don't drink too much!
[18:49] Atticus: i wont lie.... that's not a promise i can keep.
[18:50] Atticus: i will, however, promise this: I will only drink things i like drinking.
[18:50] Adam Ant: okay, good enough :)
[18:50] Adam Ant: have fun
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Dec 24 11:35:33 2007
[11:35] Adam Ant: Merry Christmas Atticus, to you and your family :)
[11:36] Atticus: you too boss ;)
[11:36] Atticus: i gotta go do some last... LAST minute shopping right now ;) take care
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Dec 25 12:23:03 2007
[12:24] Atticus: howdy. you may want to check my logs. I had my seer logged in and my aunt jumped on and started playingwhen i wasnt looking.... (she's handicapped).  She would have been on between now and 10 minutes ago or so. :P
[12:25] Atticus: i dont think she did anything other than run around, but. just letting you know :P
[12:25] Atticus: MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!@
[13:02] Adam Ant: does she know anything about the staff/admin commands?
[13:03] Adam Ant: like does she know things like [add?
[13:03] Atticus: no, she has the mentality of a 7 year old... i just don't know what she clicked.
[13:03] Adam Ant: okay .. 
[13:03] Atticus: i don't see any "wtf, a seer just attacked and killed me" posts on the boards, so i think all is ok :P
[13:03] Adam Ant: Merry Christmas man :)
[13:03] Adam Ant: hehe
[13:03] Atticus: you too ;)
[13:14] Atticus: (Link: http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0672328410)http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0672328410 <-- my xmas present :P
[13:28] Adam Ant: :D
[13:29] Adam Ant: speaking of which, I did a minor messageboard upgrade yesterday from 7.2 to 7.2.2
[13:29] Atticus: ok
[13:30] Adam Ant: There are mostly bug fixes (most of which I don't care about), but the reason I updated was that I can now have all message board registrants auto added to my mailing list
[13:32] Atticus: hmmm, excellent.
[13:33] Atticus: ok... so, first 2 week period for new: 63 members (not including [companion]s)
[13:45] Atticus: is there any way to make atticus the gm of 2 guilds?
[13:45] Atticus: ah, never mind :P you're busy... i'll icq tomorrow
[13:57] Adam Ant: I think it would confuse the system .. it would probably be better to have two separate characters
[13:58] Atticus: well, the idea was to open [old] for players to go to when they graduate from [new], but just have atti be GM of both with access to guild chat to both, without each guild being able to chat with each other.
[13:59] Atticus: but then again, the chat would likely help (but also maybe hurt)... i'll think on it more and get back to you.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Dec 26 15:24:38 2007
[15:34] Atticus: ... elea pre wrote his news report for the christmas events since he's going to be out of town..... you gotta read this :P
[15:35] Atticus: Twas the night before Christmas, 
 and all through the land 
 Britanians were hatching 
 a most terrible plan 
  
 The long swords were poisoned and thrown in a batch, 
 In hopes that St. Nicholas would soon be dispatched; 
  
 The people were livid and clinching their fists, 
 Santa had placed them on the naughty list; 
 The soldiers were angry, as were the peasants, 
 the dexers grabbed blades the mages grabbed regents, 
 To murder Saint Nick was their group’s true vocation, 
 He'd soon be disposed once they knew his location. 
 Soon Santa'd regret those things he had done, 
 His reindeer'd be jerky, they'd ruin his fun. 
 The moon was blood red as they assembled the gank 
 when the mob heard that Santa was at west brit bank 
 Soon gates were opened and wrath was poured through, 
 His reindeer were grounded, not one could fly true, 
 Arrows were flying and soon you could see, 
 The reindeer were dead, as dead as could be. 
 And Santa he stood and he put up a fight, 
 but spells were soon cast, long into the night; 
 "Kal Vas Flam, Por Ort Grav, An Mani, Corp Por" 
 the streets were soon filled with blood and with gore 
 But Santa, still breathing, still quietly begged 
 as the people all strung him up by his legs 
 The mob made him watch as they all squealed with glee 
 as they looted his presents meant for Chim-n-eys 
 Santa wailed and he cried as he saw what they'd done, 
 they destroyed all the gifts, they ransacked everyone 
 But in all the commotion Santa'd escaped 
 He could not be found; they noticed too late. 
 Someone yelled not to panic, for if he abides 
 They assured the mob they knew where he did reside 
 So they tore apart metal, the bolts of the sleigh 
 and forged with it weapons; they'd make Santa pay. 
 Gates were soon opened, with a mystical crack, 
 assaulters poured through; an all out attack! 
 The elves, they were ready, and prepared to fight 
 The bloodbath would last long into the night 
 The battle was fierce and the elves took no guff 
 They fought for their master, but twas not enough. 
 No sooner had the last elf hit the floor 
 Did Santa appear, decked out; ready for war. 
 With spells, incantations, he slaughtered the weak 
 as he blew killing blows he snarled to speak: 
 "Bring the pain weaklings, I’ll finish you all!" 
 He said as he tossed a man right through his wall. 
 He stood over the carnage and admired his work, 
 He claimed victory but then turned with a jerk, 
 An arrow had struck him right in the back, 
 and he turned as he snapped the shaft with a crack; 
 He rubbed his eyes, scared, unable to see, 
 Soon Santa was spasming uncontrollably. 
 Santa was poisoned to death; no doubt 
 and someone yelled "Let's beat him til candy comes out!" 
 The townspeople cackled as they beat him with fists 
 "That'll teach you to add us to the naughty list!"
[15:55] Adam Ant: lol!
[15:55] Adam Ant: O like this line :  Soon Santa'd regret those things he had done, 
  His reindeer'd be jerky, they'd ruin his fun. 
[15:55] Atticus: i know! it's great.
[15:56] Atticus: turns out he's an educated writer... i BELIEVE he has his masters in it...
[15:56] Atticus: and he's moving to chicago (as we speak) to go to an improv school.
[15:57] Atticus: i'm spyched :P getting the reindeer bbq ready now... got santas part setup yesterday
[17:41] Atticus: you about? i have an issue in game... i asked pixie and TK, but they don't have any ideas.
[18:04] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=573045#Post573045)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=573045#Post573045
[20:54] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=573045#Post573045)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=573045#Post573045
[20:55] Atticus: ?
[20:55] Adam Ant: ??
[20:55] Atticus: i don't see anything new
[20:57] Adam Ant: *puts down the eggnog and tries again*
[20:58] Atticus: har
[20:58] Adam Ant: oh, I was previewing it :)
[20:58] Adam Ant: look now
[20:59] Atticus: lol
[21:03] Adam Ant: see my latest reply before you talk to her
[21:04] Atticus: not sure i know what you mean.
[21:04] Atticus: how would they be restored? would that require a revert?
[21:04] Adam Ant: yes, revert the whole shard a day .. ya think anyone would notice?
[21:05] Atticus: nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnah
[21:05] Adam Ant: :P
[21:05] Atticus: 'tis the season.... smiles and lampshades.
[21:05] Adam Ant: we can pretend we're aren't sure, and restore them just in case ;)
[21:06] Adam Ant: (not let on that we know she messed up thus opening ourselves to attack)
[21:06] Atticus: right.
[21:07] Atticus: sounds good to me. she's definately a good candidate for a little love.
[21:07] Adam Ant: good, have he send naked pics :)
[21:07] Adam Ant: :D
[21:07] Atticus: she might :P
[21:07] Adam Ant: bug me tomorrow though .. I need to go watch a movie with the fam
[21:08] Adam Ant: good!
[21:08] Atticus: righteo. take care
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Dec 27 16:13:31 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Dec 27 16:13:43 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Dec 27 16:37:46 2007
[16:39] Atticus: find anything with the libraries? Also, you mention she unlocked them and logged an hour later, and never RElocked them... wouldn't it make sense that she didn't lock them down again because they "poofed"? thus, rendering her incapable of locking them back down?
[16:53] Adam Ant: well, it's just not likely unless she paged within close proxmity to the log entries there (which I don't believe is the case.)
[16:53] Adam Ant: I do not believe there is any bug
[16:53] Adam Ant: I believe she messed up and feels bad about it
[16:54] Adam Ant: I will however forgo telling her this and instead restore heree liberies
[16:54] Atticus: it's possible, but knowing her i don't think she would do that.... if anything she doesn't realized she messed up.
[16:54] Atticus: either way, i'm just being subjective in case there might be a bug you want to look into at this point.
[16:55] Adam Ant: thank you - we've not touched anything with decay for a long time. it's very unlikely something like this would spontainiously happen out of the blue
[16:57] Adam Ant: I have a task for you
[16:57] Adam Ant: first of all, it's important you not tell her that I think she messed, yet I'm willing to restore her stuff
[16:58] Atticus: of course.
[16:58] Adam Ant: you have not said anythink like this to here have you?
[16:58] Atticus: nope, havn't spoken with her.
[16:58] Adam Ant: well, not of course .. I do usually tell folks "no, you fucked up"
[16:58] Atticus: i'm just gonna play dumb. "something went wrong, but it's dev stuff... and i'm no techy."
[16:58] Adam Ant: okay
[17:01] Adam Ant: go find her, and meet her on TC (tell her I sent you become I'm busy - she's expecting me), then take the two libraries and meet me later so I can do the transfer
[17:01] Adam Ant: *because
[17:01] Atticus: take what 2 libraries? wont her houses on TC have decayed?
[17:02] Adam Ant: oh, meh .. I'll need to restore the backup .. *mumbles* .. nm .. I'll take care of it
[17:05] Atticus: ok, and while i have you. Do you have any objection to spawning the reindeer for todays event all around moonglow island? and setting up the BBQ in town (west of the smith shop > west of the bank)?
[17:05] Atticus: actually... nm.
[17:13] Atticus: hmm, how about: rather than blessing/freezing the reindeer when they get in sight, i setup the BBQ in the fighting area of the ocnivelle arena, and make that area a "no skill" zone?
[17:13] Atticus: essentially, nothing changes other than affectiveness.
[17:14] Atticus: and it remains a pretty tough/low scoring event.
[19:33] Atticus: 30 minutes headsup :P
[19:33] Atticus: decorations are added by the stables.
[21:06] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Dec 27 21:06:47 2007.
[21:07] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Thu Dec 27 21:07:02 2007.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Dec 28 15:10:32 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri Dec 28 15:32:27 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Dec 28 16:29:32 2007
[19:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/366483/fpart/1)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/366483/fpart/1
[19:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.uogstore.com/divinity/cart.php?target=main)http://www.uogstore.com/divinity/cart.php?target=main
[19:16] Adam Ant: LOL! I said this would happen!!
[19:16] Atticus: so did i :P
[19:16] Adam Ant: :P
[19:16] Atticus: i cant stand ryan and his team... not for making money, but... just because of their personalities.
[19:16] Atticus: buncha twats
[19:18] Adam Ant: well, I don't know them so I don't have an opinion there .. but this ingame sales makes me loos any respect I have for them
[19:18] Adam Ant: but...
[19:18] Adam Ant: I think in the end .. it's good for us
[19:18] Atticus: well, their promise to 'never' sell items, then turning around and selling.... things like....
[19:19] Atticus: this: (Link: http://www.uogstore.com/divinity/cart.php?target=product&product_id=269&category_id=64)(Link: http://www.uogstore.com/divinity/cart.php?target=product&product_id=269&category_id=64)http://www.uogstore.com/divinity/cart.php?target=product&product_id=269&category_id=64
[19:19] Atticus: is pretty character defining, i think :P
[19:20] Atticus: not because guilds are bad, but to go from promising to sell "nothing" to "build an entire guild for 200 bucks" is pretty snakey.
[19:22] Atticus: might be something to learn from their big "booms" though.
[19:24] Adam Ant: wow
[19:24] Atticus: ?
[19:24] Atticus: "wow they went from dittaly squat to 750 online over night"?
[19:25] Atticus: ya... was news to me too.
[19:25] Adam Ant: oh, I didn't know that .. lol
[19:25] Adam Ant: no, the "wow" was the $250 skill ball sety ;p
[19:26] Atticus: ah, yea...
[19:26] Atticus: lots going on there right now.... they used what i refer to a lot as something along the lines of the "WAZOW!" affect... and did it quite well.
[19:27] Adam Ant: yep, the bang will be great I think .. but it can't last
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Dec 30 20:44:28 2007
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Dec 30 20:44:37 2007


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Dec 30 20:45:09 2007
[20:45] Atticus: heyo. do you have the password for the playguide ftp handy?
[20:46] Atticus: the playguide part... for hosting pictures, that is.
[20:46] Adam Ant: let me have a look...
[20:47] Atticus: i had it written down, seems someone trashed it.
[20:48] Adam Ant: gmnpg05
[20:48] Atticus: hmm, is the username not "playguide"?
[20:54] Adam Ant: should be, let me try
[20:54] Atticus: hold on... i think i got it
[20:56] Atticus: hmm, ya... not sure what's going on.
[20:57] Atticus: going to ftp.game-master.net
[20:57] Atticus: UN: playguide
[20:57] Atticus: and tried passwords :gmnpg05 and _pg2007
[21:03] Adam Ant: can tis wait ill tomorrow? I tried the obvious things and that didn't work. 
[21:03] Atticus: yea, i just hosted it on imageshack for now. can transfer it later
[21:03] Adam Ant: I'm in the middle of something and don't want to get too far out of it
[21:03] Atticus: its just one pic (since my razor broke... grr)
[21:03] Adam Ant: okay remind me tomorrow and I'll have a deeper look
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Jan 01 21:14:27 2008
[21:14] Adam Ant: hey, could you remove erlin's and weaver's access beyond 'player'
[21:14] Adam Ant: you could simply ban his staff account .. Weaver I think it is, and limit the other one to 'player'
[21:15] Atticus: ok
[21:15] Adam Ant: ty
[21:15] Adam Ant: Happy New Year man :)
[21:16] Adam Ant: how are you?
[21:16] Atticus: you too boss ;)
[21:16] Atticus: good, was a good weekend
[21:16] Atticus: started the new year with some old friends.
[21:16] Atticus: how about you?
[21:17] Adam Ant: it was good :)
[21:17] Adam Ant: mel fell asleep before 12, so I stayed up with the kids ;p
[21:18] Atticus: excellent
[21:19] Adam Ant: then crashed immediatly afterwards
[21:19] Atticus: i was up 'til like 6:00am.... i've been hurting all day.
[21:19] Adam Ant: that would likely kill me ;p
[21:19] Atticus: lol
[21:20] Atticus: it was hard not to.... was with a friend i grew up with that i hadn't seen in a long time, a group of people i used to work with when i was in highschool
[21:20] Adam Ant: that's neat
[21:20] Atticus: ran into oodles of other people i hadn't seen in forever at the bar.... lots to catch up on
[21:20] Adam Ant: :)
[21:21] Adam Ant: I went ahead and killed erlein's source access, and in-game staff account
[21:21] Atticus: source access?
[21:21] Adam Ant: the guy has just lost all interest
[21:22] Adam Ant: yes, access to the source code
[21:22] Atticus: ah
[21:22] Atticus: ok, i just banned weaver. looking into erlein now, but i dont think i gave him access on that account when he came back
[21:22] Adam Ant: numbers have been kind of nice the last couple days
[21:22] Adam Ant: cool
[21:22] Atticus: been nice a couple weeks.
[21:23] Adam Ant: PS (before I go to watch a show with mel) .. I deactivated the BoB champ and turned on Azothu
[21:23] Atticus: hitting the 90's regularly... the peaks are shortening already though, probably has something to do with divinity
[21:23] Adam Ant: yep, probably time ... 
[21:23] Adam Ant: hey :D
[21:23] Adam Ant: (get ready here it comes)
[21:23] Atticus: uh oh :P
[21:24] Atticus: ok, weavers de-staffed on the forums
[21:24] Adam Ant: Maybe you should write a carfully crafted email that very subtly suggest our permanance and reliability (both technically and philosopically)
[21:25] Adam Ant: you know .. one that speks to the pissed off Divinity player (without being obviopus)
[21:25] Adam Ant: :D
[21:26] Atticus: not sure how well it would work. I've been doing a lot of spying the past few days, and everyone is pretty happy with divinity right now.
[21:26] Atticus: despite the shop opening after all the promises to never do that.
[21:26] Adam Ant: anyway .. think about it .. or ask our new writer .. I need to go check on the wife unit
[21:27] Atticus: i even tried to envoke some complaints about it, but failed.
[21:27] Atticus: alrighty, will do
[21:33] Atticus: when you get a chance, could you PM me the shards server specs.
[21:33] Atticus: never mind... its on the portal page.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jan 02 14:43:47 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Jan 02 15:00:55 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jan 02 15:05:57 2008
[15:06] Atticus: you might want to respond in here, people have been asking for a while: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/574524/Main/47184/#Post574524)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/574524/Main/47184/#Post574524
[15:06] Adam Ant: *reads*
[15:10] Adam Ant: how's that
[15:12] Atticus: garbage. i bet they all quit.
[15:12] Atticus: :P
[15:18] Adam Ant: !
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[11:03] Adam Ant: where are we with the New player starting area?
[11:03] Adam Ant: is it ready to go?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jan 03 18:14:46 2008
[18:15] Atticus: with the player of the year thing, did you guys carry through with this:  
  
 In addition to the two winners (one for 2005, one for 2006), there will be 10 runners-up. The two winners will be honored with statues dedicated to them. The runners-up will be memorialized forever as named spirits in the Angel Island Prison escape tunnel. 
 
[19:08] Adam Ant: I'm happy to do it
[19:08] Adam Ant: did it turn into a huge mess .. or was it civil?
[19:08] Atticus: did what turn into a huge mess?
[19:08] Adam Ant: the player of the year previous...
[19:09] Adam Ant: that's why I avoided this year ;p
[19:09] Atticus: it was fine. one of the players started putting one  together this year
[19:09] Atticus: but, i decided to not use it, since it started out as a joke, and suddenly got serious.
[19:09] Atticus: but ya, last years went fine.
[19:10] Adam Ant: can you oversee it and get me the names and whatnot
[19:10] Adam Ant: actually, wouyld you do the building ofd the statues?
[19:10] Atticus: sure
[19:10] Adam Ant: and get me the other names for the escape tunnel?
[19:10] Adam Ant: :)
[19:10] Adam Ant: thanks man
[19:11] Atticus: also, someone leaked the felix = atti info.
[19:11] Adam Ant: :\
[19:12] Atticus: yea... not sure who yet, but i'm gonna be one pissed off cat with a magic bag when i do.
[19:12] Adam Ant: what does that even mean?
[19:12] Atticus: just that i'm gonna be mad :P
[19:14] Adam Ant: hey .. in your spare time .. see if you can find where Ryan said he will never sell items foer Divinity .. I want to capture that ;)
[19:21] Atticus: wouldn't be surprised if he deleted stuff like that.
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jan 04 14:29:02 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jan 04 14:32:04 2008
[14:32] Adam Ant: what are the cords to the new player starting area?
[14:32] Adam Ant: also, have you any changes to the gump before I put it online?
[14:32] Atticus: was just going to go there actually lol
[14:32] Atticus: well, what's the current gump?
[14:33] Adam Ant: well, the the PM thread, you said you were going to send changes to pixie .. pixie says he never recieved them .. so I'm wondering whaty needs updating.
[14:33] Atticus: argh
[14:33] Atticus: i think i asked for him to send me the current gump in a PM, i never got it
[14:34] Atticus: i saw it once over ICQ
[14:34] Adam Ant: okay, I'll do that now .. I want to get this online !
[14:34] Atticus: me too.
[14:34] Atticus: copy/paste the gump into the PM thread (if you stll have it)
[14:34] Atticus: also, did you ever decide how you want to do the [new] info?
[14:35] Adam Ant: yep...
[14:46] Atticus: 5731 953 0 (in trammel) is the exact location they should start at
[14:46] Atticus: also, you'll need to log in and set the siege tent to not decay
[14:49] Adam Ant: okay, trplied to that shared PM with the text
[14:49] Adam Ant: have a look at it and reply with edits
[14:59] Atticus: replied
[15:09] Atticus: oh, also, the starting location would be a nice addition to the [go list
[15:09] Adam Ant: yeah, for now I added a moongate to GA
[15:11] Adam Ant: I'm also changing the new members title to Month Day instead of Day Month\
[15:12] Atticus: thanka!
[15:12] Atticus: that's how it was before, it's been throwing me all out of whack :P
[15:12] Atticus: hold off on adding that text.. i may change 1 small thing
[15:13] Atticus: just gotta test something first, will only take a minute
[15:14] Adam Ant: kk
[15:20] Atticus: ok edited.
[15:21] Atticus: i switched from a moongate to a teleporter and used a rec for the target location
[15:25] Atticus: uhhh, voting booth is focked.
[15:26] Adam Ant: yea, I moved it to the twlightzone when I movced the tree
[15:29] Adam Ant: can you see anything in there? I'm in the dark
[15:30] Atticus: in where?
[15:30] Adam Ant: new player area
[15:30] Atticus: aye, i can.
[15:30] Atticus: hmmm, let me check something. I might have light filter on in razor
[15:35] Atticus: hmm, the filters on and i can't seem to turn it off
[15:38] Atticus: and the RC is set to.... Dungeon: False/ Light Level: 100
[15:57] Atticus: side note: i'm setting up the RP discussion forum we talked about ages ago.
[15:58] Atticus: the wait was because there was nobody to moderate it. But, solon is on board now.
[17:02] Adam Ant: I sent the lightlevel to -1 and that seemed to allow me to see .. we'll see how it works out
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jan 05 13:08:27 2008
[13:27] Adam Ant: okay, so the new area is open and online
[13:28] Atticus: auto adding players now?
[13:28] Atticus: i see that :P
[13:28] Adam Ant: All new players are auto added to the New Guid based on the IP check I've always done
[13:28] Adam Ant: Also, ...
[13:28] Adam Ant: There is no gump .. just too much to read , soo...
[13:28] Adam Ant: as a test, I'm trying just the book approach
[13:29] Atticus: that sounds good. did you make it stand out at all?
[13:29] Adam Ant: I thing that since they are THERE it will be intuitive to read the book
[13:29] Adam Ant: well, it's right next to you now :P
[13:29] Atticus: i mean the book with information on the guild...
[13:29] Adam Ant: the last paragraph
[14:46] Adam Ant: got a job for you when you have some time
[14:57] Atticus: ok
[14:58] Atticus: what's the job?
[15:29] Adam Ant: what would you think about setting up a little little reading room in the tavern next to WBB?
[15:29] Atticus: i think we should promote silver fox to the team :P
[15:30] Atticus: he's pretty good at building and decorating
[15:31] Adam Ant: well, I was really just thinking about some libraries, basically a duplication iof what we have in the new player area
[15:32] Atticus: can prolly do that.
[15:33] Atticus: not sure when, though. i really want to finish up arogoth's reign and get going on that.
[15:34] Atticus: just hit a road block with the first quest, and having a hard time altering it with the boating changes
[15:34] Adam Ant: yes, no hurry
[15:37] Atticus: alright.
[15:37] Atticus: i'll get to it sometime next week.
[15:37] Adam Ant: cool
[15:48] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=575737#Post575737)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=575737#Post575737
[15:56] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=575747#Post575747)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=575747#Post575747
[16:11] Adam Ant:  at least two players in the starting are now /// and they seem to be reading :)
[16:55] Atticus: come to me in the newbie area
[16:56] Atticus: nm
[19:16] Atticus: alrighty, seems you already wrote up and sent out the thing i was about to write... and it's really good.
[19:16] Atticus: that should be on the front page, imo.
[19:18] Atticus: and expand on the "future changes" part if i can put that on the front page.
[19:31] Adam Ant: yes, please do
[19:32] Adam Ant: heh, do we even mention the new player starting area? ;p
[19:32] Atticus: eh, no, and i didn't think of that.
[19:32] Adam Ant: *shrugs*
[19:32] Atticus: but, i'll likely store that as a text file or save the email and add that later
[19:32] Adam Ant: may not be needed
[19:33] Atticus: since i'm learning html/css and plan to completely overhaul everything.
[19:33] Atticus: yea, newbie area is nice but there's no need for mention of it on the front page i don't think. Maybe a lttle "read the playguide or the books in the starting area" somewhere
[19:34] Atticus: mmm, actually, maybe i'll give it a quick update tomorrow.
[19:35] Atticus: could you give me a list of some good "future" things to add? maybe taran's AI project? 
[19:35] Atticus: stuff like that.
[19:37] Adam Ant: I'd prefer not to blow smoke .. lets stick to what's actually being developed
[19:38] Atticus: oh, i thought he was working on that already
[19:50] Atticus: anyways. any objection to me putting it in paragraph form?
[00:53] Adam Ant: [21:05] Pixie: 101 online
[00:53] Adam Ant: !
[00:53] Adam Ant: :)
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[09:31] Atticus: (Link: http://www.characterplanet.com/forums/)http://www.characterplanet.com/forums/ that's an online gaming community that works sort of like MySpace for gamers.(Link: http://www.characterplanet.com/forums/)(Link: http://www.characterplanet.com/forums/)
[09:32] Atticus: i've been talking with the owner, and he's agreed to a sort of dual sponsorship (he used to play AI, i ran into him in one of my ad campaigns)
[09:33] Atticus: so, i wanted to chat about what we can do on our end to sponsor his site in return for him sponsoring Angel Island
[09:33] Atticus: so, icq me when you're around.
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[10:57] Atticus: and also, do you know how many unique hits our site gets a day?
[10:57] Atticus: (not shard)
[11:07] Adam Ant: yep. lets talk after church .. and yes .. I can tell you, hold on I'll get the site stats
[11:12] Adam Ant: Daily Statistics for December 2007  
   
 Day Hits Files Pages Visits Sites KBytes  
   
 1 155784 2.93% 118460 2.88% 105063 2.86% 1225 3.36% 879 8.84% 380139 2.63%  
 2 169425 3.19% 128822 3.13% 116196 3.16% 1291 3.55% 933 9.39% 478779 3.31%  
 3 168650 3.18% 128870 3.13% 113716 3.09% 1307 3.59% 923 9.29% 552168 3.82%  
 4 168155 3.17% 129124 3.14% 115977 3.15% 1280 3.52% 931 9.37% 445917 3.08%  
 5 165197 3.11% 129682 3.15% 110991 3.02% 1228 3.37% 936 9.42% 419263 2.90%  
 6 166886 3.14% 130974 3.18% 116143 3.16% 1344 3.69% 962 9.68% 496126 3.43%  
 7 158155 2.98% 122917 2.98% 107731 2.93% 1190 3.27% 819 8.24% 473907 3.28%  
 8 158627 2.99% 124020 3.01% 111534 3.03% 1229 3.38% 829 8.34% 503580 3.48%  
 9 170867 3.22% 138460 3.36% 124246 3.38% 1109 3.05% 800 8.05% 419233 2.90%  
 10 187652 3.53% 138175 3.36% 124027 3.37% 1257 3.45% 898 9.03% 500174 3.46%  
 11 185197 3.49% 142995 3.47% 129865 3.53% 1221 3.35% 807 8.12% 443358 3.06%  
 12 159658 3.01% 120839 2.93% 107828 2.93% 1181 3.24% 844 8.49% 381520 2.64%  
 13 151355 2.85% 115474 2.80% 100869 2.74% 1272 3.49% 930 9.36% 449116 3.10%  
 14 162131 3.05% 123312 2.99% 106821 2.90% 1164 3.20% 803 8.08% 435080 3.01%  
 15 146221 2.75% 114381 2.78% 102222 2.78% 1107 3.04% 779 7.84% 346770 2.40%  
 16 175737 3.31% 136650 3.32% 123414 3.35% 1207 3.32% 812 8.17% 443835 3.07%  
 17 180589 3.40% 138153 3.35% 126357 3.43% 1251 3.44% 873 8.78% 522489 3.61%  
 18 184404 3.47% 137358 3.34% 122117 3.32% 1189 3.27% 898 9.03% 729936 5.04%  
 19 221626 4.17% 169813 4.12% 151250 4.11% 1276 3.51% 957 9.63% 682579 4.72%  
 20 177957 3.35% 143414 3.48% 129803 3.53% 1260 3.46% 978 9.84% 494777 3.42%  
 21 177546 3.34% 133526 3.24% 120623 3.28% 1200 3.30% 869 8.74% 494724 3.42%  
 22 199100 3.75% 145904 3.54% 133572 3.63% 1175 3.23% 847 8.52% 518851 3.59%  
 23 176933 3.33% 134123 3.26% 120603 3.28% 1148 3.15% 830 8.35% 447772 3.09%  
 24 175286 3.30% 135360 3.29% 120819 3.28% 1193 3.28% 851 8.56% 483028 3.34%  
 25 132486 2.50% 103001 2.50% 86693 2.36% 1208 3.32% 933 9.39% 400163 2.77%  
 26 155406 2.93% 125602 3.05% 111678 3.03% 1156 3.18% 893 8.98% 416071 2.88%  
 27 173681 3.27% 137805 3.35% 123894 3.37% 1171 3.22% 884 8.89% 491352 3.40%  
 28 184876 3.48% 150120 3.65% 134141 3.65% 1156 3.18% 808 8.13% 414489 2.86%  
 29 156902 2.96% 127198 3.09% 114941 3.12% 1158 3.18% 869 8.74% 373908 2.58%  
 30 160341 3.02% 131281 3.19% 119236 3.24% 1210 3.32% 857 8.62% 346821 2.40%  
 31 202364 3.81% 162236 3.94% 147486 4.01% 1219 3.35% 844 8.49% 483816 3.34%  
   
  
 
[11:13] Adam Ant: I don't think those are unique
[11:15] Adam Ant: this may be helpful as well
[11:15] Adam Ant: Monthly Statistics for December 2007  
   
 Total Hits 5309194  
 Total Files 4118049  
 Total Pages 3679856  
 Total Visits 36405  
 Total KBytes 14469742  
   
 Total Unique Sites 9940  
 Total Unique URLs 53314  
 Total Unique Referrers 18816  
 Total Unique User Agents 1714  
 
[11:16] Adam Ant: 17-18K
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[15:00] Atticus: ok, you about?
[15:02] Adam Ant: yeah, what's up?
[15:02] Atticus: alright, the about characterplanet
[15:02] Atticus: we get a little over 50% of the hits per day/month that they get.
[15:03] Atticus: but we have about the same amount of registered users (on our sites)
[15:03] Atticus: also, if you google "online gaming" they're number 3 on that list, which is good imo.
[15:03] Adam Ant: they have 8,000 registered users?
[15:04] Atticus: no, they have 9,100 we have 9,300
[15:04] Atticus: and while i'm looking at their message board, they have about 59 guests and 6 members logged in, and most ever was 758
[15:05] Adam Ant: kk
[15:05] Atticus: so, they've dwindled, but they're also working on an update and relaunch, to improve on things like their guild hosting and blogging
[15:05] Adam Ant: so what's the plan?
[15:05] Atticus: what I want to propose is this:
[15:05] Atticus: we both send out emails. Our email would basically say "hey, we got this sponsorship, and they're going to send out an email to another 10,000 people for us"
[15:06] Atticus: and also a blurb about what their site is and has to offer
[15:06] Atticus: and they do the same for us, but with a little different feel... "hey guys, i used to play this shard Angel Island (truth). go check it out, i want to help them out"
[15:06] Atticus: we look like we got some good sponsorship, and they look kind
[15:07] Atticus: and get some sponsorship.
[15:07] Atticus: win win for everyone in that regard.
[15:07] Atticus: second:
[15:07] Atticus: he already agreed that he would let us put a nice banner on his site.
[15:08] Atticus: if you go to their homepage, you'll see a banner right now at the top to the right of their logo
[15:08] Atticus: our banner would go there.
[15:09] Atticus: and in return for that, since we get less traffic, we add a blurb about their site and how they're helping us in the "stability" part of the new front page description
[15:09] Atticus: with a short but sweet description of their site.
[15:10] Atticus: and depending on how well they update, maybe push a little harder for our members to sign up and use their guild system.
[15:10] Atticus: (but not make a commercial out of it)
[15:12] Atticus: so, in summary: we each send an email, they put a banner on their site (and i'm gonna see if i can get him to sticky something in his forums) and we put a nice blurb on ours
[15:12] Atticus: and that blurb will actually also help us.
[15:13] Adam Ant: what's the link to their site?
[15:13] Atticus: (Link: http://www.characterplanet.com/)http://www.characterplanet.com/
[15:14] Atticus: not sure if it would be best to do this right away, or wait until i finish revamping our site, and they finish theirs
[15:19] Adam Ant: their UO board is pretty dead: (Link: http://characterplanet.com/forums/ultima-online-f2275.html)http://characterplanet.com/forums/ultima-online-f2275.html
[15:19] Atticus: i know.
[15:19] Adam Ant: something I wouldn't mind doing right now it getting his email list, and in exchange I'll run an ad for him on our site.
[15:20] Adam Ant: I would then send one of our mass emails giving his site credit with the usual opt-out
[15:20] Atticus: you mean actually forward you his mailing list? or just send out an email?
[15:22] Adam Ant: forward it to me so that I can send it from my email system (that automatically supports unsubscribe - see the footer in the email I send out)
[15:23] Atticus: i'll try, but that's pretty lob sided.
[15:27] Adam Ant: I'm off to the movies .. I'll be back in a couple hours .. I'll think about your proposal
[15:27] Atticus: righto
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[17:28] Atticus: heyo.... first things first: i've been getting deeper and deeper into this html/css book, and this stuff is easy as pie. So, i should start on a much nicer web page pretty soon.
[17:28] Atticus: so there's that.
[17:28] Atticus: Second, did you put any thought into characterplanet.com?
[17:35] Adam Ant: sorry I havn't .. works been picking up and they are keeping me hopping
[17:40] Atticus: righto, np
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[15:45] Atticus: what do you think of this banner? (Link: http://www.outoftheboxcelebrations.com/Yew/AIbanner.jpg)(Link: http://www.outoftheboxcelebrations.com/Yew/AIbanner.jpg)http://www.outoftheboxcelebrations.com/Yew/AIbanner.jpg(Link: http://www.outoftheboxcelebrations.com/Yew/AIbanner.jpg)
[16:22] Adam Ant: nice
[17:24] Adam Ant: how many folks are in New now?
[17:24] Atticus: a lot, but i havn't been clearing the stone after 2 weeks, i'm letting people stay in a little longer
[17:25] Adam Ant: guesstimate?
[17:25] Adam Ant: 100?
[17:25] Atticus: i'll count real quick, but remember it wont be a completely accurate portrayal
[17:26] Adam Ant: sure
[17:27] Atticus: about 122 newbies
[17:27] Atticus: but few are active.
[17:27] Atticus: and other factors...
[17:28] Atticus: some arn't active, some probably arn't actually new, etc
[17:28] Atticus: some should have graduated
[17:28] Adam Ant: kk
[17:28] Atticus: the reason i'm not clearing them is I plan to open the sister guild [old] for them to go to when they're done.
[17:28] Atticus: and want to have a good solid startup for them, to keep it rolling.
[17:30] Adam Ant: yep, makes sense
[17:30] Adam Ant: are you doing dungeon crawls or other events with them?
[17:31] Atticus: been trying to, it's hard to get a group together.
[17:31] Atticus: there's normally a good 4 or 5 on at a time, but they're all busy training up.
[17:31] Atticus: [old] did a lot of hunts in it's time, though.
[17:32] Atticus: but ya, couple hunts with them but nothing major. Mostly been idling with my journal open while i work on a new homepage in notepad
[17:33] Adam Ant: k
[17:33] Atticus: did the guy from characterplanet.com ever PM you?
[17:34] Adam Ant: nope
[17:37] Atticus: ok, well, i think they're a good friend to make. Their product isn't great right now, and i have no expectations of anything great resulting from their sponsorship in their current state, but they are overhauling and relaunching, and they DID have over 700 people logged into their forums at one time just a few months ago...
[17:37] Atticus: and I worry that if we wait to move in on this, we're going to seem like leeches.
[17:38] Adam Ant: well I guess I just don't understand what exactly we are to do. (And I can't go over it now.)
[17:39] Adam Ant: Can you PM me 'in detail' what the relationship is and what we expect from each other?
[17:39] Atticus: yip
[17:39] Adam Ant: okay, good .. ty
[17:39] Adam Ant: brb
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Jan 11 10:50:27 2008
[10:50] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=577063#Post577063)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=577063#Post577063
[10:55] Adam Ant: please see that in-game staff are fully versed on the new command and especially on the restrictions around responses
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jan 16 13:05:59 2008
[13:05] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578339#Post578339)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578339#Post578339
[16:42] Atticus: PM sent
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jan 17 10:54:53 2008
[10:54] Adam Ant: replied
[14:52] Atticus: replied
[19:26] Atticus: ok... i got this HTML/CSS stuff down and a rough draft style sheet complete. All I need to do is make/find some better graphics to use for borders, and after that it's just a matter of inserting text into the stylesheet.
[19:27] Atticus: so, my question is: are you still against the idea of having a more traditional front page for g-m.net?
[19:28] Atticus: read: extremely easily editable, easily navigated, professional looking front page.
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[13:25] Adam Ant: my concern is that the BBS has built in styles and  that the style you are looking at today may not be the same style joe blow is looking at
[13:26] Adam Ant: If you craft a hand-crafted look for the front page to match the current style YOU ARE LOOKING at, it won't match the style someone else has picked (for GMN)
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[18:47] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578719#Post578719)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578719#Post578719
[18:47] Atticus: just thought you might like to know that's there. pretty bad for xstaff to say some of that stuff.
[19:22] Atticus: aaaand here's this: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578977#Post578977)(Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578977#Post578977)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=578977#Post578977
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[17:56] Atticus: so, you don't want the web page, then?
[17:57] Adam Ant: it not that I don't want it ... did you understand what I was saying?
[17:57] Atticus: i was under the impression that you were under the impression that it would be presented through the forums like it currently is.
[17:58] Atticus: the proposal is for an external site with a link to the forums. 
[17:58] Adam Ant: not sure what that means ;p
[17:58] Atticus: did you read the post in the staff forum?
[17:58] Atticus: here...
[17:58] Atticus: (Link: http://www.geocities.com/atticusnew/)http://www.geocities.com/atticusnew/
[17:59] Atticus: a regular old web page. That link is the stylesheet that the pages would use.
[17:59] Atticus: it would have different borders, though.
[18:00] Adam Ant: right .. now, did you know that there are currently multiple styles installed for our bbs, and that players (today) can change styles to see the forum in different ways?
[18:01] Atticus: yea, i just don't see how that matters.
[18:01] Adam Ant: well, I'll explain
[18:01] Atticus: you just want everything to match? even though you wouldn't see them at the same time?
[18:01] Adam Ant: if you pattern your plain old HTML after one of the styles, it won't look tight when someone is using a different style
[18:02] Adam Ant: well, yes
[18:02] Adam Ant: if you go to the merchant forum it matches the portal, and that matches the general discussion
[18:02] Adam Ant: there is a theme
[18:03] Adam Ant: if I change the theme to pink and greem, your front page won't look like the same web site at all
[18:04] Adam Ant: (because you're not using the colors etc of the UBB.)
[18:04] Adam Ant: if however you learned how to do that, then I wouldn't have an issue with you building a page from scratch
[18:05] Atticus: ok, you understand it wont be displayed through the portal on the forums though, right? like the front page currently is.
[18:06] Atticus: (i'm fried from last night, so be gentle :P)
[18:07] Atticus: and thus, people changing their settings on the forums wont affect the page at all. But, i can understand wanting it to match.
[18:08] Atticus: and i have no idea how to link the 2 so that changing your personal settings on the forums will change the site and make everything match, either. But I COULD change the style of the forums to match the site, and remove any other style options
[18:09] Atticus: but this is all just if you want it, obviously. but, my opinion is that people are more familiar and comfortable looking for information on a traditional web page than they are looking for information they need on forums.
[18:12] Adam Ant: well I appriciate your desire to ake it nice, but I'm afraid that not having a complete solution would only be more agravating that helpful. .. while the current portal is not beautiful, it is highly functional and players do know how to navagate it .. changing it would require to duplicate much of the same functionality/links
[18:13] Atticus: portal wouldn't need to  change at all, it wouldn't use the portal page.
[18:14] Adam Ant: how would people get to the portal page, and why would anyone ever go there?
[18:15] Atticus: there wouldn't be much need for it, but if so desired we  could just link to it.
[18:16] Adam Ant: how would live content be added? News for instance?
[18:17] Atticus: PHP feed in the website
[18:17] Atticus: where the "none" link is on the site i linked you to.
[18:17] Atticus: and to the right of that would be another PHP feed from a picture forum (which would display a thumbnail from what ever picture was last posted in the forum)
[18:21] Adam Ant: here are my concerns ... 
[18:24] Adam Ant: I've had people like 10 times in the last 6 years move that we change the website .. what worries me id that this is yet another task I will need to be involved in .. you can't just do it on your own (I don't think), you need server level access, and the current landing page will need to be replumbed to use your page... Any customizations will be totally custome .. I will need to become an expert in all that you do because if you leave, I'll need to take over a new system which is different than UBB
[18:29] Atticus: well, it uses a stylesheet.
[18:29] Atticus: it's actually a pretty well built site, believe it or not. I made it with a stylesheet just so that if i ever do leave for what ever reason, everything will be very easily edited.
[18:30] Atticus: making a new page on it will be as easy as typing in what ever text you want to display on a page.
[18:32] Adam Ant: *nods* .. I understand... but then my agerage board administrator can no longer update it .. every board admin from this time forward will require a HIGH degree of trust as I will need to grant them access to the server.
[18:32] Adam Ant: *average
[18:32] Atticus: ah, yes, that's true.
[18:32] Adam Ant: (or I'll own the task myself)
[18:32] Adam Ant: if I wern't so busy, I'd consider it .. but as I write this, I'm trying to finish off the new vendor changes .. these changes (alone) are taking probably 25 hours .. they are complex and take a ton of time ... I then need to publish to TC and get Az to test, I then need to publish to Prod ... My time is very limited, so I must pick the most important things to do
[18:33] Adam Ant: things that put more responsibility on me rank super low on my scale of stuff to do
[18:35] Atticus: understandable
[18:38] Adam Ant: now .. with all of that said .. what can't you do with UBB that you want to do or had planned to do with with HTML?
[18:38] Adam Ant: I know you can do like PHP inserts, so you could inject lots of functionality that way
[18:43] Atticus: aye, there's one possibility
[18:43] Atticus: let me find a link....
[18:52] Atticus: sorry, talking with the guy from character planet.
[18:52] Atticus: 
[18:54] Atticus: (Link: http://www.fansfocus.com/football/premiership/-league.php)http://www.fansfocus.com/football/premiership/-league.php
[18:54] Atticus: ok, take a look at that page.
[18:54] Atticus: and note how content is displayed in the "portal" area.
[18:55] Atticus: those are actually sites stored outside of their UBB forums that are displayed THROUGH ubb.
[18:59] Adam Ant: ya .. not much to look at tho, but ya.. 
[19:00] Atticus: well, theirs is bland. Our would be more dressed up.
[19:01] Atticus: so, i'll look into that. But it's going to take more learning.
[19:01] Adam Ant: so what is it your trying to accomplish? what is it you don't like about the portal page?
[19:02] Atticus: it's not the portal page that I don't like, it's a matter of consistency across the internet, and what people are familiar with.
[19:02] Atticus: people know how to navigate a traditional web page for information they need better than they do forums.
[19:04] Atticus: it's a matter of helping to inform players of our features and philosophies, as well as getting setup on the shard (in the forum of a "join us" and "downloads" link)
[19:04] Adam Ant: what does join us do? what does download do?
[19:06] Atticus: "join us" would be the same information as the "account creation" link we currently have, but on a web page. I know it sounds stupid, and imo it IS stupid, but it's just less confusing to look for that information on a clean web page.
[19:06] Atticus: "downloads" would have 1 click downloads to a compatible UO and razor client, maybe UO auto map, and tools like that.
[19:07] Atticus: instead of having a link to a download stickied somewhere in one of the forums.
[19:07] Adam Ant: that is a copyright issue and has nothing to do with HTML vs UBB
[19:07] Adam Ant: (Whay don't we have the downloads today .. because it's a copyright issue)
[19:08] Atticus: lots of shards have those. You're just being cautious of the day EA starts crying and attacking UO PRS'?
[19:10] Adam Ant: what shard is hosting the UO client and or Razor? 
[19:10] Atticus: there's a bunch, one i can think of off the top of my head is divinity
[19:10] Atticus: and probably all of the gamers shards.
[20:11] Adam Ant: they don't host the uo client as far as i know .. and they can host razor because they own it
[20:12] Atticus: (Link: http://www.uodivinity.com/downloads/)http://www.uodivinity.com/downloads/
[20:13] Adam Ant: they're not hosting it, only linking to it
[20:14] Atticus: well, when you click that link it gives you the option to download it.
[20:14] Atticus: which is what i had in mind
[20:15] Adam Ant: ah
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[10:17] Atticus: ok, so creating the "portal pages" like i said before requires the same level of trust as just making a regular web page.
[10:17] Atticus: still need server access
[10:18] Atticus: actually, it requires more, because the admin would need access to the ubb files and authority to edit/hack them.
[10:18] Adam Ant: right, which is bad because then going forward that the new level of aaccess I will need to grant anyone that I want to update things (which cuts the already slim pickins) by about 90%
[10:19] Adam Ant: heh, that was confusing huh
[10:19] Adam Ant: :)
[10:19] Atticus: no, i understand.... i was in bad shape all yesterday.
[10:19] Adam Ant: how you doung today?
[10:19] Atticus: peachy ;)
[10:19] Atticus: less hung over ;)
[10:22] Atticus: but, i do think it would be a good idea to have a functioning web site for quick and easy information and am willing to build it. So, if you want it (even if semi temporarily) let me know.
[10:25] Adam Ant: well, what about a playground for you, built the way you want for the playguide?
[10:25] Adam Ant: like you build the 'site' there .. if it works the way you want, you will have something to point to
[10:26] Atticus: i already know it will work the way I want, and the stylesheet (bulk of the work) is finished.
[10:26] Atticus: and I have no real desire to do this, it wont be fun for me, i'm just saying if YOU want it, i'll do it and that i think it's a good idea.
[10:28] Atticus: so if that's what you want, then that's what I'll do.
[10:34] Adam Ant: it's not what I want...
[10:35] Adam Ant: It's like this
[10:37] Adam Ant: I understand that I do not have a dedicated webmaster that will own the website from start to finish for the forseeable future, I had to therefore choose a solution that allowed--with reasonable flexibility--a web structure that was editable from a user-login so that any willing person could help out and make changes (in a standard way, and from freely available documents)
[10:39] Atticus: i know, i get it. if you change your mind let me know.
[10:43] Adam Ant: okay :)
[10:44] Adam Ant: I do appriciate your desire to make things better
[10:53] Atticus: np ;)
[11:25] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=579281#Post579281)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=579281#Post579281
[11:30] Atticus: ok, i'll add it to the playguide
[11:31] Adam Ant: :)
[11:35] Adam Ant: haha, New has 140 members ;p
[11:35] Atticus: ya, i just saw that.... 90ish are supposed to be on the stone, too.
[11:35] Atticus: don't forget i havn't been clearing the stone so the member list can conjest a little (but i cleared some today and am clearing more)
[11:36] Adam Ant: more new events!!
[11:36] Atticus: well, i really want to do arogoth's reign, but the boat changes are holding it back.
[11:37] Atticus: i really think many of those changes need to be reverted. When i picture hosting an event with them (player or staff) all i envision is disaster
[11:38] Adam Ant: because players will lose their boat/
[11:38] Atticus: well, because they will lose their boat easily.
[11:38] Atticus: they go to the event, die quickly to PKs with grappling hooks, and have to buy another boat (which they risk losing) just to get back to theirs.
[11:39] Atticus: it sounds fun for pirates, but the bulk of the fun comes from the fight for them, i think. And with how likely it will be for people to lose their boats
[11:39] Atticus: i see their return to try to capture it as being unlikely, and see no chance of them going to a second boating event.
[11:40] Atticus: hard to explain, just think about trying to host a boating event in your own mind, and you'll probably see what i mean.
[11:41] Adam Ant: yes, but this doesn't mean the boating changes are bad in general, just thay they are not right for the event
[11:41] Adam Ant: When we (at some point) get stuff going on on the ocean, the boating changes will be fine
[11:41] Adam Ant: (like for the pirate champ)
[11:42] Atticus: for any event, though. and it was my understanding that the goal was to inspire pirating in the form of events with the boating changes and quest tickets
[11:42] Atticus: ah, ok.
[11:43] Adam Ant: yes, true .. but some events are NOT newbie friendly, or at least, require forewarning
[12:01] Atticus: i havn't seen our shard reporter around since his first report, which is also pretty dissapointing
[12:40] Adam Ant: heh, get used to it ;p
[12:41] Adam Ant: welcome to my life :)
[12:41] Atticus: well, i think he was pretty pumped about it, but we got him on the team right while he was moving.
[12:41] Adam Ant: I find that maybe 20% of staff stick around to do a good job
[12:41] Atticus: ... to chicago. So i think he might just be out and about enjoying his new city
[12:42] Adam Ant: well keep an eye on him .. if he disappears, remember to revoke all hius accesses
[12:42] Atticus: yup
[15:03] Atticus: "orcs own at west britain bank"?
[15:08] Adam Ant: they did for a short while
[15:09] Atticus: oh, i saw it in my journal after an announcement about the guards going off, thought there was some sort of event
[15:10] Atticus: (other than the automated one)
[15:10] Adam Ant: nah .. was just some mad kin battle at wbb
[15:11] Atticus: ok
[15:35] Atticus: ok, so here's what i'm going to work on.
[15:35] Atticus: so you know....
[15:35] Adam Ant: ty :P
[15:36] Atticus: A: Gonna get back to work on arogoth's reign. Not sure what i'm going to do about the first event (boating event). I might change it completely, or i might just move forward with it and see how it goes (but that scares me, because even the writeup was a lot of work)
[15:36] Atticus: B: I'm going to setup a second house and a second guildstone for the [old] guild.
[15:36] Atticus: which will be a transitionary guild for [new] members to "graduate" to once their time in [NEW] is over.
[15:37] Atticus: and C: work on the relationship with characterplanet.
[15:37] Adam Ant: well multi accounts for a player is illegal, we could get some shit for that
[15:37] Adam Ant: one of the accounts could become staff
[15:37] Atticus: which is underway, i talked with my contact over there yesterday and he's going to relay everything to his brother
[15:38] Atticus: ok. should probably be the atticus account, then.
[15:38] Atticus: everyone already knows it's an alt account, but they also know i play it as though it's a staff account and don't use it to my personal benefit, which is why the leave me alone about it
[15:38] Adam Ant: what other chars are on that account?
[15:38] Atticus: there's characters but they're all newbs.
[15:39] Atticus: atticus is the only functioning character, and i only use the account for "community building"
[15:39] Adam Ant: so you would not mind deleting them?
[15:39] Atticus: and always have.
[15:39] Atticus: no, that's fine.
[15:39] Atticus: the crafter is on my main account, since i use him to make my own Sdrops
[15:40] Adam Ant: okay, delete all the chars on that account and give all wealth away (to your player account is fine)
[15:40] Adam Ant: then I will make Atticus a counselor
[15:40] Atticus: i need the wealth to run [new]
[15:40] Adam Ant: right .. but staff cannot be participents in the economy
[15:41] Adam Ant: it would need to be your player account
[15:42] Adam Ant: you see the problem right? It's not okay for me to 'bless' a player account with multi-accounts, or to allow a staff member to participate in the economy .. both are a formula for disaster
[15:43] Adam Ant: you need to be squeeky clean in all respects as your 'speial situation' could go radioactive if we make some stupid decisions
[15:45] Atticus: well, can't do [old] then unless someone else takes control of it. But since it would basically be a constant flow of players to a less restricted, more traditional guild, i 'have' to be GM.
[15:45] Atticus: tricky tricky... i'll think about all this and get back with ya.
[15:46] Adam Ant: okay
[15:48] Atticus: what if Atticus was GM of both stones, and both stones were placed in the [new] tower?
[15:48] Atticus: i don't know if that would even be possible, though.
[15:49] Adam Ant: it's at lease wierd
[15:50] Atticus: well, it's an understandable system with a clear goal: building the community.
[15:50] Atticus: and with 100 newbies on the stone right now, it could be pretty affective.
[15:51] Adam Ant: what if you create two atticus characters on that atticus account. Then I'll help you place the stone in your tower ,, and you can then manage it with the two characters
[15:51] Atticus: .... perfect.
[15:52] Atticus: that works just fine.
[15:52] Adam Ant: okay, you already have the stone?
[15:52] Adam Ant: (hates to ask .. fears he will learn of a second account)
[15:52] Adam Ant: don't tell me heh
[15:53] Atticus: i think the old one decayed.... azariel owned it and i believe that house fell
[15:53] Adam Ant: just tell me when you have the second atticus logged in, and I will then place the stone or move it from whereever it may happen to be at thie tim
[15:53] Atticus: I don't have the stone
[15:54] Adam Ant: buy one
[15:54] Atticus: i have a deed (no idea where it's from). logging atticus 2 in now
[15:55] Adam Ant: kk, page me
[15:59] Atticus: neighbors car is stuck in the snow.... i'm gonna be a couple minutes
[15:59] Atticus: brb
[16:00] Adam Ant: okay
[16:00] Adam Ant: you're dead anyway ;p
[16:23] Atticus: sure am :P
[16:27] Atticus: ok, i'm there
[16:37] Adam Ant: ok
[16:37] Adam Ant: omy
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[18:45] Adam Ant: hey, do you know how the rental vendor's work?
[18:45] Atticus: are those the new ones you just added?
[18:46] Atticus: oh... i know what you mean.
[18:46] Adam Ant: no, the old OSI ones
[18:46] Atticus: it's been a while, but the gist is:
[18:46] Atticus: you own a house. I want to place a vendor in it, but you don't want to friend me.
[18:46] Atticus: you would place the deed where you want the vendor to be placed
[18:47] Atticus: and set me to to deed as being allowed to place a vendor there (for a fee)
[18:47] Adam Ant: who gets the fee?
[18:48] Adam Ant: is it one time, weekly, etc..
[18:48] Atticus: owner i believe
[18:48] Atticus: i could swear we already had these on AI
[18:48] Adam Ant: so proceeds .. who gets those?
[18:48] Adam Ant: does the vendor get a cut?
[18:49] Atticus: I don't believe so.
[18:49] Atticus: the goal was to make it possible to "rent space" for vendors
[18:49] Atticus: making vendor malls in and of themselves profitable
[18:49] Adam Ant: but there is no gold-sink then?
[18:49] Atticus: well, the deeds cost a little bit
[18:49] Adam Ant: no 'vendor fees'?
[18:49] Atticus: no, i don't believe so.
[18:50] Atticus: but i'm not that well informed on them
[18:50] Adam Ant: okay .. I need to know ;p
[18:50] Atticus: and it's been a long time since i've toyed with them
[18:51] Atticus: (Link: http://update.uo.com/design_439.html)http://update.uo.com/design_439.html
[18:51] Atticus: cntr+f "vendor rental"
[18:51] Adam Ant: ty
[19:11] Adam Ant: ya, here it is 
[19:11] Adam Ant: Vendor Upkeep: 
 Since vendors don't volunteer their time to sell your trinkets and doodads, you'll need to pay them to keep them happy. As such, upkeep charges will continue to be withdrawn on a daily basis from the vendor’s account. The account consists of gold collected by the vendor through sales, in addition to gold given to the vendor from that vendor’s owner.
[19:11] Atticus: i think that just means the regular old vendor, and not extra fees of the "rental contract"
[19:31] Adam Ant: oh interesting .. a Rental vendor IS a PlayerVendor (subclass) so they inherit all the finctionality (I just put in) the PlayerVendor :D
[19:32] Atticus: right, it's all normal vendoring
[19:33] Atticus: only difference is the rental contracts are a solid way of CHARGING people to place regular old vendors in your house
[19:33] Adam Ant: Yes, but I have an unterior mortive :)
[19:33] Adam Ant: ultieior
[19:33] Adam Ant: (whatever)
[19:33] Atticus: :P
[19:34] Adam Ant: :P
[19:34] Atticus: what's that?
[19:34] Adam Ant: hah
[19:34] Adam Ant: *wonders if I should tell you*
[19:34] Adam Ant: I've told no one :)
[19:34] Adam Ant: I's going to be big, not huge, but big I think :)
[19:35] Adam Ant: can I tell you on the phone?
[19:35] Atticus: sure, just let me find my tape recorder
[19:37] Atticus: yup
[19:37] Adam Ant: kk
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[15:24] Atticus: TC down?
[16:39] Adam Ant: yes, well .. I'm working on my secret project :)
[16:39] Atticus: ah ok
[16:40] Adam Ant: would you mind making a post that it'll be on and off whil 'stuff' is getting worked on?
[16:40] Atticus: sure.
[16:41] Adam Ant: ty
[16:42] Adam Ant: Woo!
[16:42] Adam Ant: I'm so excited about my new system
[16:42] Adam Ant: you know what's cool .. I've tied it to the NPCGuilds that have ALWAYS been in UO and never used :D
[16:42] Adam Ant: (except the thieves guild, that one is used.)
[16:43] Atticus: mages guild was too.
[16:43] Adam Ant: ah, discounted regs?
[16:43] Atticus: you got discounts on regs if you joined the mages guild, nobody knew that for some reason
[16:43] Atticus: well, you got discounts on stuff from all different guilds, but the mages was the only really beneficial way
[16:43] Adam Ant: well, that's the message you have always got, but I don't believe it's ever worked
[16:44] Atticus: it was wierd on osi, you had to join and rejoin and rejoin a lot.
[16:44] Atticus: seemed like it kicked you out pretty often
[16:45] Atticus: you know, [new] could be a good way to screen for some new blood on staff.
[16:45] Atticus: hookem and bringem in while they're still young and passionate :P
[16:46] Atticus: there's the trust issue, though.
[16:46] Adam Ant: I prefer old timers that have been on the shard for a whilke
[16:46] Adam Ant: ya
[16:46] Adam Ant: 99% trust 
[16:46] Adam Ant: coders are easy to find
[16:46] Atticus: i don't mean coders.... i mean like you did with me and probably others before me...
[16:47] Atticus: start them off with staff forum access as "consultants" and see how they do
[16:47] Adam Ant: ah, still tho .. you had been around for a long time
[16:47] Adam Ant: lets consider New a good source of *players* :P
[16:50] Atticus: will do ([old] too)
[16:52] Atticus: that merchant skill thing would be a hugely great addition to the hype stuff i was talking about in the staff forum, btw :P
[16:53] Adam Ant: I don't think I read that ... 
[16:54] Atticus: mmm, the general idea was to build hype to help advertise by deciding on key systems that can and will be implemented, and release them all on one update
[16:54] Atticus: after spreading word about them
[16:55] Atticus: normally i'm against stating what will and wont be added, but in the case of something big like that, i think more benefit could come from it than anything
[16:55] Adam Ant: well,... 
[16:55] Adam Ant: the wait is sufficiently short that I don't mind waiting
[16:55] Atticus: for example: send out an email and say "we've decided to release factions, a merchant skill, and open t2a to dexxers (examples) and release that publish in the near future."
[16:56] Adam Ant: Also, it's important to me that AI is the first to do it .. I don't want another shard picking up on the idea and developing it or claiming credit
[16:56] Atticus: then once it's all done, and tested and ready to go, say "ok, this publish is going live in 7 days. tell yers friends"
[16:56] Atticus: they will know, from the date the email was sent out.
[16:57] Atticus: in my head i think "ok, we have all this really cool stuff, but people never log in in big enough quantity at one time for the population to be able to sustain itself..."
[16:58] Atticus: so the idea is to build hype around a handfull of systems to interest a maximum amount of people at one time and get them all logged in at once.
[16:58] Adam Ant: pixie dropped from the factions staff .. I'm not comfortable announcing stuff when I depend on volinteers to do the work
[16:58] Adam Ant: they don't come through and I look bad
[16:59] Adam Ant: we have enough stuff that we DID do to hype the shard
[16:59] Adam Ant: and the key: the amount of intrerest we generate will be small compared to the loss-of-confidence if we don't deliver
[17:00] Adam Ant: You should read my post on it in the faction development forum
[17:00] Adam Ant: that was MONTHS ago I said what I just said to you (thank god I said it)
[17:00] Adam Ant: or we would have already suffered the embarrassment
[17:00] Atticus: which post are you talking about?
[17:00] Adam Ant: sec
[17:02] Adam Ant: Credibility > Promotion 
[17:03] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548996#Post548996)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548996#Post548996 hstant/87035-cant-log-problem.html">(Link: http://www.runuo.com/forums/razor-cutting-edge-uo-assistant/87035-cant-log-problem.html)http://www.runuo.com/forums/razor-cutting-edge-uo-assistant/87035-cant-log-problem.htmlld you let me know when you fix it please.  >/HTML>
[17:03] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548996#Post548996)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/548996#Post548996
[17:03] Adam Ant: that was 5 months ago
[17:03] Adam Ant: that is a perfect example why I won't go the hype rout
[17:05] Atticus: well, then the next best thing would be to compile a list of things to do, not say anything about them, complete the list, then once it's all done say "hey, guess what we've been doing and is going to be implemented in a week or 2?"
[17:05] Atticus: shock AND hype... might even be better, brings everyone in while they're still super interested.
[17:06] Adam Ant: :P
[17:06] Adam Ant: go run some New quest will ya! sheesah :P
[17:06] Atticus: i just think we need something explosive
[17:06] Atticus: blah :P
[17:06] Atticus: what are NEW quests? can i do that with my seer?
[17:07] Atticus: take them on dungeon crawls and such (maybe as that jeweler guy)?
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[15:00] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580060/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580060/gonew/1#UNREAD
[15:00] Atticus: 5x leaguer is Coby Seagram.
[15:02] Adam Ant: *shrugs*
[15:03] Adam Ant: we have an unspoken policy to not hunt down folks as we can't spend out time playing cat and mouse ... if he's a problem, then we ban him .. he get the same treatment as Nay or anyothe banned member .. as long as he behaves, I don't care
[15:03] Adam Ant: (he has more time to fuck with us then I do to prevent it)
[15:04] Atticus: right, but if you remember, last time he was banned we took note of his IP address and I compared it to his recently created forum account, which i added to my watch list so that we have a record of who he is in game via his IP address
[15:04] Atticus: since he's been banned so many times for such large violations, like major exploits and scripting.
[15:05] Adam Ant: please note: he can--if he so desires--consume 100% of out time .. you get that right?
[15:05] Adam Ant: if he was really pissed?
[15:05] Adam Ant: if he found it to be fun?
[15:05] Adam Ant: which he would since he KNOWS we can't stop him?
[15:06] Adam Ant: we should not start something we cannot finish
[15:06] Adam Ant: he's already proved we cannot stop him
[15:06] Atticus: i'm just pointing it out. My theory is if we just ban him each time he gets established and keeps losing all his stuff he'll get bored.
[15:06] Atticus: he's a sociopath, us letting him slide is what feeds his ego and fuels him.
[15:07] Adam Ant: you are speaking from priccipal and not what best for us atm...
[15:08] Adam Ant: if you ban him, you may well have to deal with significant fall out
[15:08] Adam Ant: leave sleeping dogs lie
[15:09] Adam Ant: I don't have the cycles to deal with him creating dozons of accounts, posting porn or main bombing my PM box again
[15:09] Adam Ant: *mail
[15:09] Atticus: i don't mean from the boards, boards are nothing. i mean the shard :P
[15:09] Atticus: i WANT him on the boards.
[15:10] Atticus: because we have a log of who he is from them.
[15:10] Adam Ant: I want him in game to turn up exploits
[15:10] Adam Ant: if he is ingame, we can watch him
[15:13] Atticus: who's going to watch him, though? nobody wants to follow coby seagram and morkai around babysitting them, more than anything the complaint has always been that staff don't seem to take any effort to keep people like them away... and actually, the only real gripe has ever been coby, and the less; morkai.
[15:13] Atticus: but, this is all beside the point. I was just pointing out that [new] might be getting griefed pert soon.
[15:15] Adam Ant: what do you think we should do (taking into consideration all that's I've said and that I cannot spend cycles there now?)
[15:17] Atticus: keep watching his forum account for a record of his IP (which gives us the jump on him) and do an IP search for his game accounts once in a while and ban the ones with wealth.
[15:18] Adam Ant: 1. he has more time on his hands that you and I both, 2. fucking with us could be as big a challange as playing UO, 3. If you put a stick in the ground by saying "WE CAN FIND YOU", that will become his game
[15:18] Adam Ant: I do not want to go there
[15:18] Adam Ant: this is why we have a policy on the matter .. been there since day one
[15:19] Adam Ant: it says that we do not hunt these guys down .. at the first sign of trouble we can open the books on him, until them we go on with business as usual
[15:19] Adam Ant: I don't mean to sound like I don't care
[15:19] Adam Ant: But it will fall to me to handle
[15:19] Atticus: i know you do, just giving my opinion on it.
[15:20] Adam Ant: I simply do not have full time staff I can count on to deal with this syuff
[15:20] Atticus: and i don't mean to step on toes or change policies, he's just been here a while and is constantly causing problems.
[15:20] Atticus: and shows no sign of letting up.
[15:20] Adam Ant: *noted*
[15:21] Atticus: the big thing is that he doesn't farm... he gets handouts when he needs to restart.
[15:21] Atticus: eventually people will get tired of giving him stuff, and he'll get tired of doing it.
[15:21] Atticus: but currently, with the time between him getting banned and finding his next thing to abuse to get banned, he doesn't really lose anything.
[15:21] Atticus: and wont change.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Jan 24 15:38:48 2008
[16:06] Atticus: any objection to putting the 2007 player of the year statue on the balcony overlooking the garden/statue in blackthorn castle?
[16:06] Atticus: (still in view of the other statues)
[16:11] Atticus: actually, maybe out of view of the other ones... the one on the east side overlooking the ocean. I'm watching her now and I think she'd like that.
[16:32] Adam Ant: sure .. and if you can think of a better organization of all of them .. be my guest
[16:32] Atticus: ended up putting hers by the pond over to the side
[16:33] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=580342#Post580342)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=580342#Post580342
[16:40] Atticus: sweet
[16:52] Atticus: with the peace guild thing, would it be possible to make guildmates hue pink?
[17:39] Adam Ant: NPC guilds don't hue
[17:39] Atticus: i mean the [new] guild stuff.
[17:48] Adam Ant: possible, but probably not worth the hassel
[17:48] Adam Ant: hey, do you thing this is true?:  Re: New Player Professions and the Shopkeeper [Re: Konignacht]   
  5x leaguer 5x leaguer   
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  (66.68.155.70)  flannery and kindra are same person so lol just btw kinda   
[17:49] Atticus: I don't know who kindra is
[17:49] Adam Ant: ah, Marissa
[17:49] Adam Ant: Subushi
[17:49] Atticus: that may have been before my time
[17:49] Adam Ant: yep 
[17:49] Adam Ant: you were happily thieving at tyhe time ;p
[17:49] Atticus: i've heard the name and know there's some sort of drama around it, but i don't know her
[17:50] Adam Ant: no biggy .. I'm all about forgive and forget
[17:50] Adam Ant: (as you know) :P
[17:50] Atticus: yea, i noticed :P
[17:50] Atticus: but, i wouldn't think too much of it.
[17:50] Atticus: it's just one of the knitting circle members spewing around garbage they discussed over tea and crumpets
[17:52] Atticus: especially considering that's coby and he most definately wasn't here when kindra was
[18:49] Adam Ant: Mr. Html guy?
[18:49] Atticus: david blane?
[18:49] Adam Ant: :p
[18:50] Adam Ant: would you look into removing the dead voting button?
[18:51] Adam Ant: however, don't do it today.. I think another is simply having trouble loading today and I donm't want you to remove the wrong one
[18:51] Atticus: sure
[19:30] Adam Ant: I removed one of the buttons .. it was making the boards S L O W
[19:30] Adam Ant: the site must be down or something
[19:31] Adam Ant: I'll add it back tomorrow and check the other one .. 
[20:29] Atticus: i still see them all
[20:29] Atticus: ah, maybe not
[11:32] Adam Ant: could you do a playguide chapter on NPC Guilds with the first entry being that of the shopkeeper please?
[11:32] Adam Ant: (there will be others)
[14:55] Atticus: sure, prolly not this weekend though.
[14:55] Atticus: i still have to do the one for the vendors
[15:54] Atticus: is there any chance of getting nessuno (TC house designer) GM access on prod so he can help construct/decorate for events?
[15:55] Atticus: as part of the seer team
[16:12] Adam Ant: he would need to start as a counselor
[16:13] Atticus: i don't think he has any interest in it. What about if we did an arrangement like we do with reporters? they can only be logged in to work on decorations for events.
[16:20] Atticus: nm, he's on board for starting as a counselor
[16:21] Atticus: shal I have him start reading/signing?
[16:24] Adam Ant: yes pelase .. can you train him?
[16:24] Atticus: yea, sure can
[16:24] Adam Ant: also,m and you make sure he understands what he's signing .. 
[16:25] Adam Ant: wrt following players, creating items (GM), chatting with buddies, passing knowledge from staff to normal char
[16:25] Adam Ant: I'd also like you to tail him .. 
[16:25] Atticus: i tail all the counselors already.
[16:25] Adam Ant: make sure he's doing the right things
[16:25] Adam Ant: :)
[16:25] Atticus: when i see them on, that is.
[16:25] Adam Ant: good deal
[16:26] Adam Ant: in a couple weeks--if you're happy with his knowledge--we can make him a GM (not seer)
[16:26] Atticus: aye, GM.
[16:26] Atticus: can you get a counselor account setup for him?
[16:26] Adam Ant: sure.. sec...
[16:26] Adam Ant: this is silver right?
[16:27] Adam Ant: Silver Fox?
[16:27] Atticus: aye, silver fox
[16:27] Adam Ant: kk, sec
[16:27] Atticus: but his moderator account (nessuno) will have staff access
[16:28] Adam Ant: yep .. please update the roster .. and add to your list to create a similar roster for the moderator forum ... 
[16:28] Atticus: righto
[16:29] Adam Ant: acct: StaffSilver pass silver123 (tell him to change the password)
[16:29] Adam Ant: let me know when he logs in so I can set his access
[16:30] Atticus: will do, just linked him to the policy threads
[16:30] Atticus: will be a few
[16:30] Adam Ant: kk
[16:32] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580645#Post580645)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580645#Post580645
[16:49] Atticus: he's gotta jet for a while. we'll have to get his counselor setup later
[16:49] Atticus: but he's setup on the boards and signed the agreements and all that
[17:41] Adam Ant: okay, you need to give him a periodic pop-quiz on the rules ;p
[17:41] Atticus: why's that?
[17:41] Atticus: well, i understand that he needs to understand, but why the new antics?
[17:42] Adam Ant: you mean why amd I pushing on this so jard?
[17:42] Adam Ant: *hard
[17:42] Atticus: aye
[17:43] Adam Ant: because I'm bust and can't monitor it like I'd like to, so I'm trying to impress on you that much of the oversite will be on you
[17:43] Adam Ant: (and atticus thinks .. "Then why doesn't just say that?!!")
[17:44] Atticus: well, i just thought it had something to do with cassandra
[17:44] Adam Ant: no .. not really
[18:24] Atticus: wasn't joe cotton one of the TGG guys who's stuff you confiscated?
[18:57] Adam Ant: yep
[18:57] Adam Ant: and yes, I saw his post on stuff he's got
[18:58] Adam Ant: however I'm prettty sure he doersn't have that stuff any more .. I think he's talking about 'once upon a time' ;p
[19:03] Atticus: mmm, no. all remarks about how he acquired them are past tense.
[19:03] Atticus: i gotta jet, though.
[19:04] Atticus: just letting you know.
[19:04] Atticus: laterz
[19:04] Adam Ant: kk, see you
[19:26] Adam Ant: I hope you don't mind .. I'd like to see her get involved
[19:26] Adam Ant: [14:35] lily: *reads*
 [14:35] lily: nice!
 [14:35] lily: is atti training?
 [15:41] Luke: yes, unless you'd like to
 [15:41] Luke: I'd like toi have you 'back in the mix' :)
 [17:24] lily: i'd love to..if it does not upset atti
 [17:26] Luke: Nope, I'll tell him you'll be dipping your toe back in the pool :)
[20:45] Atticus: sweet!
[20:46] Atticus: sounds good to me.
[20:46] Atticus: she should dab back into seering, too :P
[20:51] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580710/Main/580710/#Post580710)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/580710/Main/580710/#Post580710
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri Jan 25 22:09:02 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jan 26 12:51:49 2008
[12:51] Adam Ant: Ah, you don't need to quit any player guilds .. you must have once-upon-a-time joined one of the NPC guilds. You’ll need to find the guildmaster of the guild you joined and say  “resign” … or if you page, we can tell you what NPC guild you belong to.. rejoin Clan and quit the NPC guild you belong to.  
We’ll update the play guide to make this clear.  
  
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[12:52] Atticus: oh sorry, i wasn't clear.
[12:52] Atticus: that was a post by flannery flynn
[12:56] Adam Ant: yes.. it's all good now
[12:56] Adam Ant: hey, you got a few minutes?
[12:56] Atticus: yep
[12:57] Adam Ant: Please create a new forum "Breeding Dragons and other creatures"
 1. move toasts post there with a Pointer to be deleted in 3 days, with the note that it was moved to the new breeding forum
[12:58] Atticus: which post?
[12:58] Adam Ant: use all the same features as say the General Discussion
[12:58] Adam Ant: and ask Toast if he would like to Moderate it
[12:58] Adam Ant: the one on the first page of General re dragon breeding :P
[12:58] Atticus: what would the purpose of the forum be?
[12:59] Adam Ant: !
[12:59] Atticus: just to discuss discoveries in the system?
[12:59] Adam Ant: yes, and to share techniques etc .. I think it will help to spark interewst
[12:59] Atticus: hype will help spark interest :P
[13:00] Atticus: i was really dissapointed to see how the merchant stuff was brought out. It's such a cool idea, but was presented on a dirty plate... 
[13:00] Atticus: "here ya go guys"
[13:01] Atticus: bleh, i'm drifting off :P ya, i'll set it up now
[13:01] Adam Ant: really?
[13:01] Adam Ant: I thought I did it well
[13:02] Adam Ant: how could I have presented it better?
[13:02] Atticus: well, you did it better than others. The original post was good and well written
[13:02] Atticus: but i just think it's best to build interest before you do bigger things like that.
[13:03] Adam Ant: *shrugs* .. not sure how I was supposed to present ity
[13:03] Atticus: it's hard to explain.
[13:04] Atticus: i just think it's better to make a bigger deal out of the systems  you put in.
[13:05] Atticus: they ARE good, and they're what sets us apart from other shards. I understand the reasoning behind not wanting to build hype only to meet failure, and it IS risky, but you gotta take risks if you want to succeed.
[13:06] Adam Ant: tell me how you would have done it?
[13:06] Atticus: i would have held of on releasing it
[13:07] Atticus: and let it be known it was under development
[13:07] Atticus: also, i think i read somewhere in the post that there were more bells and whistles on the way for that skill... i wouldn't have released it 'til those were done.
[13:08] Atticus: i'd get it as close to a finished product as i could, psyched everyone out a little, THEN released it.
[13:11] Atticus: but, i only say that because i think the concept of this particular system is pretty damn cool. It's really inovative and IMO could be really appealing to the group it targets.
[13:13] Atticus: in fact, about as appealing as you CAN get to merchants and shopkeepers. I mean, hell, what else could they want?
[13:26] Adam Ant: the problem is that there is only one of me coding ... I'm pretty much alone
[13:26] Adam Ant: it was all I could do to get that out
[13:27] Adam Ant: 2 years ago when I used to have 4 full time devs, yes . I would hype it .. like breeding and static housing etc..
[13:27] Adam Ant: but now i can code it and release it
[13:27] Adam Ant: I havn't the luxury to do much else
[13:30] Atticus: pixie, plasma and taran kain arn't coding any more?
[13:39] Adam Ant: pixie is only doing small stuff, once in a while, plasma is on factions and I don't want to bug him with other staff .. and taran didn't do anything for months, then worked on static houses at christmas, then disappeared again .. 
[13:40] Adam Ant: I don't talk about this to players, s I would appriciate it if you didn't either
[13:40] Adam Ant: (instills fear) :P
[13:40] Adam Ant: I just have to optimize my cycles because there is so much to do .. 
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Jan 26 21:15:43 2008
[21:15] Atticus: hey, you around?
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jan 27 08:45:06 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Jan 27 09:55:00 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Jan 27 18:57:56 2008
[18:57] Adam Ant: you around?
[19:01] Adam Ant: nm
[19:02] Adam Ant: seems we keep missing each other :P
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Jan 28 17:40:24 2008
[17:40] Atticus: has gilah gotten in touch with nessuno yet?
[17:52] Adam Ant: sec .. phone
[18:44] Adam Ant: hmm, dunno .. do you think not?
[18:44] Adam Ant: contact himn and if she has not, or if she's falling behind .. go ahead and offer your services 
[18:44] Adam Ant: (I don't see her online)'
[09:25] Atticus: Howdy. When you get some free time, could you add an option to the props menu for staff level characters to make regular looting rules apply?
[09:25] Atticus: currently, if you're staff any items you have, blessed, non-blessed, newbied, what ever, will remain with your character upon death.
[22:16] Atticus: i'm off to bed, but before i go: note that it's probably better for the forum community to have a devoted admin than it is to have a shout box... something that serves next to no purpose when compared to the functionality of regular forums... questions have always been answered in record time on GMN.
[22:17] Atticus: the guy takes his job VERY seriously, and is very well liked and for the most part (compared to mods of the past) respected by the community.
[09:58] Adam Ant: you read my reply? 
[09:58] Adam Ant: if it means loosing yogi then do it .. but I personally think you guys are throwing the baby out with the bath water
[09:59] Adam Ant: but I'm NOT on task for modding, so I won't force the issue
[10:00] Adam Ant: do me a favor tho .. there is a new version of UBB about to become available .. I know there were a bunch of forum moderation imporvements .. please have a look to see if there are any shoutbox enhancements
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[10:25] Adam Ant: have you had a chance to update the play guide for the recent Player vendor changes (2), and the new Professions?
[14:41] Atticus: no, i actually got hit with the flu. spent about 36 of the past 48 hours in bed
[14:43] Atticus: and my boss was a little loose today and wanted to hit the pub, so now probably isn't the time to get those posted :P
[14:43] Atticus: but, i'll try tonight.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Jan 30 17:30:16 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Jan 30 18:01:29 2008
[18:01] Adam Ant: ah, sorry .. hope you're feeling better
[15:17] Atticus: is gilah coming back?
[18:47] Adam Ant: no idea .. I kind of doubt it .. she usually pops in fr a day or two, then disappears again
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[14:42] Adam Ant: hey, you've seen what we're doing on TC?
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[15:45] Atticus: nope, havnt seen or heard anything about tc
[15:53] Atticus: ah, ok... just saw your post in gd
[15:53] Atticus: i had no idea we were losing so many players from this..... that's fucking huge.
[17:37] Adam Ant: yep, I think this is going to be a big win for us
[17:37] Adam Ant: not over noight mind you, but ove r time
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri Feb 01 23:02:49 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Feb 02 18:15:18 2008
[18:15] Atticus: you about?
[18:43] Adam Ant: I will be in a few .. I need to run to the store
[18:43] Adam Ant: what's up?
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Feb 02 23:17:16 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Feb 03 13:23:21 2008
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Feb 03 15:13:55 2008
[15:14] Atticus: you about?
[15:23] Adam Ant: yep yep
[15:23] Adam Ant: what's new
[15:24] Atticus: not a whole lot. had the flu (lost 10 pounds in 1 day....), started looking at condo's to buy, my insurance kicked in at work, things are slowing down in the field and layoffs are on the horizon.
[15:24] Atticus: so, i'm stressed :P
[15:25] Atticus: how about you?
[15:26] Adam Ant: ick .. sorry man :\
[15:26] Adam Ant: I hope things start looking up for you really soon
[15:26] Atticus: me too. i need to get out of town, but that's not a good idea with layoffs coming ;)
[15:26] Atticus: and court...
[15:27] Adam Ant: court?
[15:29] Atticus: aye, i got a DUI last october as a result of a cop bold faced lying and saying i turned without a blinker. Been fighting it for over a year. I actually already got it dismissed once, but the day after that was done the states attorney went to a second judge that was in no way involved in the case pled a case to petition to reopen it without my attorney present (which is illegal), failed to send me any notices (which almost got me arrested for "skipping" court) and now i have court on valentines day.
[15:29] Atticus: lying cops and corrupt states attorneys and judges.... loards of fun.
[15:30] Atticus: loards*
[15:30] Atticus: loads*
[15:30] Adam Ant: =\
[15:30] Adam Ant: dang
[15:30] Adam Ant: heh, happy valentines'd day
[15:31] Atticus: yea, my lawyer says "now, don't worry about bringing me chocolates on the 14th. lets just get you out of this again." 
[15:31] Atticus: and he isn't charging me for any of it, so that's good.
[15:31] Atticus: I think he's just bissed and wants to proberbially bitch slap the states attorney in court.
[15:31] Atticus: pissed*
[15:31] Adam Ant: I need to take my boy for a haircut anything you need from me that really quick?
[15:32] Atticus: yea, well, i'm swamped. any objection to me passing the playguide stuff off to someone else?
[15:32] Atticus: maybe roark (medwin: moderator)
[15:32] Adam Ant: no, I
[15:33] Adam Ant: can do it unless there is someone else you had in mind
[15:33] Atticus: i'll talk to roark. he seems pretty dedicated.
[15:40] Atticus: also, i'd like to remove Toast Brad as a moderator. That forum is currently useless, and TB has been getting really out of control on the boards, calling players "lying whores" and having hissy fits. Yogi has asked him several times to behave and he ignores him. I asked him to behave last night, and his reply to me was more or less "no."
[15:41] Atticus: Same goes for ronk. And in fact, ronk is much much worse. Toast Brad is responding to players comments. Ronk is intentionally provoking flame wars, and is an all around dickweed and embarrassment (for example: he claims to have invented townships."
[16:25] Adam Ant: that's Nessuno's other identity?
[16:25] Atticus: no, nessuno has done a fine job and represents everyone just fine
[16:25] Atticus: nessuno is silver foxes moderator account.
[16:26] Atticus: toast brad and ronk use their personal accounts for moderating.
[16:26] Atticus: and are just... they're doing really really bad. It's not even borderline.
[16:26] Atticus: they need to go.
[16:27] Adam Ant: okay.. want me to handle it?
[16:27] Atticus: you've already talked to them, yogi has talked to them, and I have talked to them.
[16:28] Adam Ant: I've not talked to "them" I don't believe .. just toast, and he promised to 'be good'
[16:29] Atticus: I thought you talked to ronk also. But, yogi and i already have.
[16:29] Atticus: they've both been asked to stop nicely more than once, and later warned to stop.
[16:29] Adam Ant: well, if you guys feel no mods would be better than them, and that they have used all their chances, then ok
[16:30] Atticus: no no, there's still nessuno.
[16:30] Adam Ant: at some point I need to let others make the hard decisions, and that's you
[16:30] Atticus: there will still be a mod.
[16:30] Adam Ant: I can't review all of everything .. I trust you and yogi are making the right decision
[16:30] Atticus: i agree with that, it's ok to let your team make some decisions.
[16:30] Adam Ant: so please fire them, as appropriate, PM.s and what not .. and remove accesses .. 
[16:30] Atticus: ok, thanks.
[16:31] Adam Ant: I assume your giys will do your best to thank them and not chase them off the shard (as they are both important to the shard)
[16:31] Atticus: aye, i'll be nice.
[16:31] Atticus: we'll*
[16:32] Adam Ant: okay, ,, ty
[17:00] Atticus: man, you know what would bitchin? What if we completely automated the [new] process. Players get added to the guild, and at the end of their 2 weeks they get removed from the guild... But, here's the good part.
[17:00] Atticus: at the end of the 2 weeks, when they get remod a Gump would open with a list of guilds they could join.
[17:02] Atticus: not ALL guilds, but guilds who's guild leader opts to join that circle. Maybe add a requirement of like 10 members to be able to join the "grad guild" list?
[17:02] Atticus: so, they see the list, they click a button next to the guilds name, and they get added to that guild automatically.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Feb 04 05:58:20 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Feb 04 16:18:41 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Feb 05 17:42:20 2008
[18:12] Atticus: howdy. did you get my icq the other day?
[18:24] Adam Ant: not sure .. can you refresh my memory?
[18:24] Adam Ant: I remember you canned Ronk and Toast tho :P
[18:25] Atticus: yea, not about that. but i wonder if toast threw a fit at all, he didn't take it well.
[18:25] Adam Ant: he PM'ed me
[18:25] Atticus: he kept explaining to me that he explained to you that he would behave, and I tried to explain that he needs to be able to work with Yogi and I, also.
[18:25] Adam Ant: I said I hired him to manage the forum, but it's no longer in use .. 
[18:26] Adam Ant: right
[18:26] Atticus: but, that's not the icq i'm talking about.
[18:26] Atticus: basically, i had a spur of the moment idea for [new] and player retention.
[18:26] Atticus: and i think it has merit...
[18:27] Atticus: basically, I was wondering if it was possible to automate the "graduate" process and incorporate other player guilds in the system. 
[18:27] Atticus: The idea is that guildmasters would be able to set their guildstones to "graduate guilds" if they met certain criteria (guild is X months old and has maintained X members).
[18:28] Atticus: then, what would happen is, after a players 2 weeks in [new] is up, they would be automatically removed from the guild and gump would show explaining that their time was up, and list the grad guilds that were available for them to join.
[18:39] Adam Ant: totally possible, but very specific to your needs .. it's hard to justify that, especially right now 
[18:40] Atticus: well, the auto removal and all that is a side product that fits my needs, the real goal though is to get the players in established guilds and keep them busy when they're done.
[18:40] Atticus: (sorry for the delay, aunt/realator called)
[18:41] Atticus: but, to finish the thought
[18:41] Atticus: they would be removed from the guild, a gump would show listing the grad guilds they could join with a button next to each grad guild. Click the button, and get added to the guild.
[19:22] Adam Ant: I think it's a reasonable system, but not a priority
[19:22] Adam Ant: I would feel better about it after we finish other more pressing matters, and after we pick up some more players
[19:26] Atticus: well, the idea IS to pick up more players :P
[19:48] Adam Ant: I understand .. I need to prioritize tho, and number one atm is this server upograde to support the latest clients, then I need to look at the Shopkeeper system because I think titles may be mis calculated, and I need to bring roses online for Valintines day .. all of those need to come first
[19:48] Atticus: roses, eh? that's a first :P
[19:48] Atticus: and i know, i'm just getting the idea out there
[21:09] Adam Ant: yeah, Eos (?) asked if I would introduce roses
[21:09] Atticus: they were a cool gift.
[21:09] Atticus: will they work like they did on osi?
[21:09] Adam Ant: and yes, keep the ideas coming .. just don't expect any quick action until the dust settles
[21:09] Adam Ant: how did they work there?
[21:10] Atticus: they were personalized.
[21:10] Atticus: they said something like "from my darling Atticus"
[21:10] Atticus: or something like that.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Feb 06 19:39:36 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Feb 07 13:38:45 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Feb 07 17:15:38 2008
[17:15] Atticus: hey boss
[20:55] Adam Ant: howdy!
[20:55] Adam Ant: See my "Love is in the air" post :)
[20:55] Adam Ant: they're better than "A Whispering rose"
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Feb 09 14:57:37 2008
[14:57] Atticus: did you just take TC down?
[14:59] Adam Ant: you'll probably get complaints of broken map locations, so here's how you handle them. 1. report them to me for fixing, and recomend that the player patch up .. there are many errors that are only evident with the older clients (running on the new map)
[14:59] Atticus: just patch? or download an older client?
[14:59] Adam Ant: older client?
[14:59] Atticus: newer
[15:00] Adam Ant: you can patch the older clients up .. making a newer cleint
[15:00] Adam Ant: and new map files
[15:00] Atticus: oh
[15:00] Atticus: ok :P
[15:00] Atticus: but, is TC down?
[15:01] Adam Ant: yes .. patching it
[15:01] Atticus: k
[15:23] Adam Ant: after today, .. and resolving any outstanding issues, we will make a general announcement urging players to patch to the latest client
[15:24] Atticus: good idea
[15:24] Atticus: great update
[15:24] Adam Ant: I'm thinking New will take off after I send the mass email announcing that latest clients can come try us out
[15:25] Atticus: yes, i kind of figure that too
[15:25] Atticus: i'm trying to get some help with it.
[15:25] Atticus: i want to try to get lots and lots of companions on the guild stone
[15:25] Adam Ant: your job over the next couple days is to assure folks this is good, and that they will be fine
[15:25] Adam Ant: :)
[15:26] Atticus: well, how sure are you that it IS fine? this seems like something that could lead to 1000 tiny little bugs, which will certainly annoy the crap out of everyone
[15:32] Atticus: when will TC be back up?
[15:32] Adam Ant: loading now ... 
[15:32] Atticus: sweet
[15:32] Adam Ant: please run around there and do a quick sanity check
[15:32] Atticus: what's that mean?
[15:32] Adam Ant: it's up
[16:21] Atticus: so, what all are you guys doing? are you patching the server up all the way?
[16:21] Atticus: which means we should get all the SE crits and such?
[16:53] Atticus: come to me on prod please
[17:03] Adam Ant: is it an emergency?
[17:03] Adam Ant: I'm busy patching
[17:03] Atticus: you just did...
[17:03] Adam Ant: kk
[18:04] Adam Ant: post a message on the boards, and ingame that asks folks to avoid using secure trade tunil they here from us
[18:04] Adam Ant: try not to sound OMG!
[18:17] Atticus: ok, so what's the deal with patching?
[18:17] Atticus: all players should be advised to patch all the way up and get the latest razor?
[18:22] Adam Ant: yes
[18:22] Atticus: ok, going to post that now.
[18:32] Adam Ant: how many pages did you get on secure trade?
[18:32] Adam Ant: just the one?
[18:32] Atticus: just one page, but mugen also complained
[18:32] Atticus: when i was talking to him about something else
[18:32] Adam Ant: what did he say he lost? (if anything)
[18:32] Atticus: 2 roses
[18:33] Atticus: he may have gotten them back, though
[18:33] Atticus: i'll talk to him when the server is back up
[18:34] Adam Ant: okay
[18:40] Adam Ant: server's up
[18:41] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584416#Post584416)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584416#Post584416
[18:43] Adam Ant: I deleted your secure trading post since it's fixed and I do not want to bring the lires out of the woorwork without need
[18:43] Adam Ant: we know the two effected 
[18:45] Atticus: he lost 3 roses
[18:46] Adam Ant: yep .. pixie said he will replace them .. however he told pix 2 .. don't let on the descrepancy .. just tell him to PM pixie .. don't tell him they *will* get replaced, but that "pixie will handle it"
[19:59] Adam Ant: you ever watched a prison escape?
[19:59] Adam Ant: one going on now .. go to Chill
[20:40] Atticus: missed it
[20:40] Atticus: was getting ready
[20:42] Adam Ant: np.. kist watching some of the kin battles going on .. one in wind atm
[20:43] Atticus: sweet
[20:43] Atticus: hey, arogoth's reign...
[20:43] Atticus: one of the events is a dungeon crawl to go into arogoth's lair and kill arogoth.... the proposal says the crawl will take place in deceit
[20:44] Atticus: but i was thinking, how about using a couple unused dungeon floors (like the larger orc caves)?
[20:45] Atticus: could even design event specific creatures as his own "minion."
[20:45] Adam Ant: general concept is okay .. but I'm too distracted with today's update to give it any serious thought .. next week is the time to talk .. after we've made it past this milestone
[20:45] Atticus: righto
[20:46] Atticus: ok, i gotta get going
[20:46] Atticus: need anything before i jet?
[21:40] Adam Ant: nope .. all good
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Feb 10 18:03:25 2008
[18:03] Adam Ant: so ..  [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [18:13])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: I'm backing off of my "everyone *should* fully patch position, and leaning towards a softer 'patch if you like' position [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [18:14])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: the reason is that there is some evidence that the newest client(s?) may not perform like the older ones .. it is yet unclear where the breaking point it ...  [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [18:15])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: I do know that with SE 6.0.6.0 I rubberbanded in a couple of spots, and I've heard that elsethere as well... [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [18:15])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: what we may endup doing it patching the map so that older clients won't bump into stuff .. I'll let you know [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [18:16])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: Did you see Plasma's fix for the lag in the most recent client? [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [22:11])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584683#Post584683)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584683#Post584683 [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [22:12])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: please make not of that for our playguide [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [22:12])]
[18:03] Adam Ant: og, by the way .. how is the play guide .. I know you were sick for a while and stressed about work .. do I still need to find someone to make those updates? [Offline Message (2/10/2008 [22:12])]
[18:03] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Sun Feb 10 18:03:26 2008.
[18:04] Atticus: yea, plasma seems to have nailed the problem.
[18:04] Atticus: do you still want me to move forward with the "patch if you want" stance?
[18:05] Adam Ant: yes, with only a nudge towards patching all the way until we know better what to expect
[18:05] Atticus: ;-/
[18:06] Atticus: i'm going to stay away from comments like "we don't know what to expect."
[18:09] Atticus: and as for the playguide, yes, i think it would be best to find someone else to keep that updated.
[18:09] Atticus: A: I'm really busy
[18:09] Atticus: and B: I think my time is better spent on different things, like events and [new]
[18:11] Adam Ant: alright .. 
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Feb 11 15:37:08 2008
[15:37] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584766#Post584766)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=584766#Post584766 [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:08])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: please make sure the other mods/staff know this as there is likely to be questions :) [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:08])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: sorry for all the spam ;p [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:18])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: here is the last link .. turns out OSI did wipe it for halloween.. [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:18])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.uoherald.com/liveevents/07halloween.php)http://www.uoherald.com/liveevents/07halloween.php [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:18])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: now we just need to decide what (if anything) we do about it. (I'm not stressed .. just collecting data.) [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:19])]
[15:37] Adam Ant: I want to hear ypour thoughts once you have had time to digest all of this... [Offline Message (2/11/2008 [4:19])]
[15:40] Atticus: hmmm, that's a big one
[15:46] Atticus: there may be "ready to go clients," but to my knowledge, different versions of razor have become incompatible with different UO clients. 
  
 If that's all true (and i believe it is) I think sticking with the "patch up" policy is good. Yes, it's a minor hassle for those of us who play here, but it's much much less of a hassle for the thousands out there who don't, but may want to later.
[15:47] Atticus: so, if my understanding of the razor issues are correct, then i think sticking with the current plan is the best way to go.
[15:52] Adam Ant: what about 
 1. keeping the server code so it accepts new clients
 2. revert the maps to the old maps
 3. add client specific patches to save folks from getting stuck that are also using new clients
[15:52] Atticus: can you clarify 3 for me?
[16:01] Atticus: honestly, i know a couple of the vets are unhappy, but they're the same vets that bitch and moan and picket about every tiny little thing that happens on the shard. And if this change makes it 100% easier for 50% of the people trying to join the shard, i think it would be best to just tell the whiners to shut the fuck up for once, the sky isn't really falling.
[16:13] Adam Ant: well, in #3 we would have special teleporters in special places on the map that would only affect players with a client > x .. so they can say "get out of the dungeon"
[16:14] Atticus: so, keeping the server code = leave it as it is right now, but fix bugs.
[16:14] Adam Ant: basically old maps and new maps often require the movement of teleporters one tile or so to accomade the map changes
[16:15] Adam Ant: well, and put back the AOS map or ML map so that players on lold clients would be 'in synch with the server' and only new clients would have the glitchy maps
[16:15] Atticus: ok, yea, i'd definately stick with what you're doing now.
[16:16] Atticus: some of the stuff is ugly, and it's buggy atm, but it's the most simple route for everyone.
[16:16] Adam Ant: alright, thanks for the feedback
[16:16] Atticus: it just promotes growth the most.
[16:16] Adam Ant: keep an eye on New growth and make sure to tell me if it surges AT ALL
[16:17] Atticus: and dont forget theres uo client : razor client issues now, also.
[16:17] Atticus: having an older UO client makes it harder to find a compatible razor version
[16:30] Atticus: so far it seems like there's already been an increase in [new] recruits
[16:37] Adam Ant: :)
[16:37] Adam Ant: hopes...
[16:37] Atticus: yea, it has potential.
[16:37] Atticus: loads of potential.
[16:38] Adam Ant: if everyone would STFU .. I would work with you on an event, or something, and sent a mass email to let everyone know we're 'compatable now'
[16:38] Atticus: i just need some sort of help.
[16:38] Atticus: well, as far as events go, i'm devoting my time to getting Arogoth's Reign running.
[16:38] Adam Ant: you do .. lol
[16:39] Atticus: i think it's a pretty good event, good story, good rares (like the books).
[16:39] Atticus: and once it's setup, we'll have a months worth of events.
[16:39] Atticus: all lined up and ready to go, so that will be good.
[16:40] Atticus: and it's close to done. Nessuno is doing well with the decorations, like the bridge for the first event and arogoth's lair.
[16:40] Atticus: but, i think once I start that, it would be a good idea to setup some "flip a switch" events, like CTF or death matches
[16:41] Adam Ant: yeah .. agree.
[16:41] Atticus: just to keep momentum
[16:41] Adam Ant: one I want to try again is the "cross shard challange"
[16:41] Adam Ant: basically, get out PvP guys to "call out" the PvP'ers from other shards
[16:41] Adam Ant: *our
[16:42] Adam Ant: and NOW they can come over for the event with ease
[16:42] Atticus: hmm, i could try to rally people up for something like that with Kadull. Despite the communities distaste for him, they seem to play along when i pool them for events
[16:42] Adam Ant: okay .. lets let the new patch sink in tho .. 
[16:42] Adam Ant: heh
[16:42] Atticus: right.
[16:43] Atticus: i think the [new] graduate thing would be a good next step, and consistent with this patch.
[16:43] Atticus: make it easier for them to come, then make it easier for them to stay
[16:59] Atticus: i brought someone to jail improperly. how do i go about releasing them?
[17:01] Adam Ant: [stuck
[17:01] Adam Ant: if they are red, pick a non red town
[17:01] Adam Ant: I mean, a red-friendly
[17:01] Atticus: alright. wasn't sure if that would mess something up
[17:05] Adam Ant: why did you jail the guy
[17:05] Atticus: i used the jail command to give a multi client test
[17:05] Atticus: just wasnt thinking
[17:05] Adam Ant: okay...
[17:06] Adam Ant: bty, thie is the worst possible time for GM screwups :P
[17:06] Atticus: :P
[17:06] Adam Ant: lets not give the players any more reasons to be critical of is ;p
[17:07] Atticus: sorry. first "in jail" discussion with someone. second i hit enter i thought "shit... shit shit."
[17:08] Adam Ant: next time hit escape instead of targeting a player :P
[17:08] Atticus: when i clicked :P
[12:53] *** You have been disconnected. Tue Feb 12 12:53:50 2008.
[12:54] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Tue Feb 12 12:54:01 2008.
[16:09] Atticus: can you fill me in on how patching and all that will work now?
[16:09] Atticus: the way i read it, any patch/client will work with AI now?
[20:48] Adam Ant: yes
[20:48] Adam Ant: pretty much
[20:48] Adam Ant: with some minor exceptions
[20:49] Adam Ant: there are two parts
[20:49] Adam Ant: 1. Packets (communication between the client and server)
 2. Map
[20:49] Adam Ant: We have #1 handled so that we can communicate with any client
[20:50] Adam Ant: we had to pick a map tho and chose 6.0.6.0 ,.. which is the latest map
[20:50] Adam Ant: (we used to run AOS 4.0.9b)
[01:12] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Feb 13 01:12:05 2008.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Feb 13 14:55:28 2008
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Feb 13 19:02:58 2008
[19:03] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/585622/gonew/1#UNREAD)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/585622/gonew/1#UNREAD
[19:03] Atticus: is this real?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Feb 14 13:12:23 2008
[13:12] Adam Ant: yes.. is that okay? 
[13:13] *** "Adam Ant" signed off at Thu Feb 14 13:13:04 2008.
[13:41] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Thu Feb 14 13:41:49 2008.
[16:08] Atticus: well, how did it come about?
[16:09] Atticus: it's just strange... A, he's been effortlessly pushing the line to out Felix as Atticus, and aside from that, he's on his last straw on the forums for constantly acting like a shit head.
[16:35] Adam Ant: I had no idea
[16:35] Atticus: yea, he's not the same "cure" he used to be.
[16:35] Atticus: i think he hit puberty and everything went down hill :P
[16:35] Adam Ant: All I knew was the nice proposals in PM, and he asked me if he could be a counselor .. I asked lily to check him out.
[16:36] Adam Ant: well, lily not around enough to really know better .. and you've been busy/sick .. so I had no real choice than to look to lily
[16:37] Adam Ant: I *want* you to handle all that syuff
[16:37] Atticus: i can handle that stuff, it's the playguide and such i don't have much time for. It doesn't take much time to say "apollo? no, he's a turd."
[16:39] Adam Ant: hehe
[16:39] Adam Ant: okay, would you mind tailing him and using [report on him
[16:39] Adam Ant: if we need to dump him, I'd like to have cause
[16:48] Adam Ant: you can see how well I've done getting the playguide updated :p
[16:48] Atticus: but on the plus side, i got chapter 1 for arogoth's reign all done!
[16:49] Atticus: oh, which reminds me.
[16:49] Atticus: remember the 2 books for that event? the rares?
[16:50] Atticus: well, there's 2 books that were going to be hued and used for rares in the event. Instead of hueing them, do you have any objection to me setting their property values to that of an open book?
[16:50] Adam Ant: no, that would be okay
[16:51] Adam Ant: you'll add them to the rares catelog?
[16:51] Atticus: yea
[16:51] Adam Ant: kk
[16:51] Adam Ant: would you mind adding "a rose" itemID 9035 , Hue 33 as well please?
[16:52] Atticus: yea
[16:52] Adam Ant: 1 on the shard .. 1 to be given (auctioned) each st valentine's day
[16:52] Atticus: ok
[16:53] Adam Ant: ty
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Feb 15 15:46:18 2008
[15:50] Adam Ant: Do you know who moved that post bu Mugen? 
[15:50] Atticus: which post?
[15:50] Adam Ant: was that Yogi?
[15:50] Atticus: wasn't me.
[15:51] Adam Ant: kk, just seemed aweful tame for a move
[15:51] Adam Ant: moves piss people off .. heh
[15:51] Adam Ant: I like to minimize that :p
[15:51] Adam Ant: kk
[15:51] Atticus: no shit! it's fucking crazy how pissed they get over it.
[15:52] Atticus: i mean, jesus, it's still there on the boards... it's just... moved.
[15:52] Adam Ant: well, it wasn't even bad .. just normal stuffs
[15:52] Adam Ant: no biggie
[15:52] Atticus: ah, i see the thread.
[15:52] Atticus: mmm, yea, i'd say that's a good move.
[15:52] Adam Ant: okay then
[15:52] Atticus: just going to turn into "you suck at pvp. you suck at griefing" within 1 minute
[15:52] Adam Ant: :)
[15:55] Adam Ant: by the way...
[15:55] Adam Ant: Coby changed his name to Toast  Brad (with two spaces) and was posting as him...
[15:56] Atticus: i just icqed yogi about that before you ICQed me.
[15:56] Atticus: i want to see if he's said anything to him before i move forward
[15:56] Adam Ant: I 1. banned that account and truned on Admins Must Approve Display Name Changes, and 2. I'm requesting UBB fix that (I posted a solution)
[15:56] Atticus: sweet
[15:57] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/206399/Display_Name_Spoofing.html#Post206399)http://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/206399/Display_Name_Spoofing.html#Post206399
[15:59] Adam Ant: the new version of the boards (in beta) will have Global Mods :)
[15:59] Atticus: what are those?
[15:59] Atticus: i went looking for info on the new version, couldnt find anything
[15:59] Adam Ant: a mod that can mod all forums without admin access, or adding him to each forum
[16:02] Atticus: lol, schooling them on how to make their boards :P
[16:20] Adam Ant: hehe
[16:20] Adam Ant: *slaps*
[16:23] Atticus: what was the reasoning for giving counselors/GMs/and consultants access to the event forums?
[16:23] Adam Ant: I don't remember .. I think Hennarr wanted to groom some of them
[16:24] Atticus: can i undo that?
[16:42] Adam Ant: what .. groom counselors?
[16:43] Adam Ant: in general I don't think it's a good idea
[16:43] Adam Ant: I think there are people that are really only meant to be copunselors
[16:43] Adam Ant: I would feel better if we hand picked people to be seers
[16:43] Atticus: no, i mean, remove their access from the event forum :P
[16:44] Adam Ant: oh, yeah .. sure
[16:44] Atticus: we do need more seers, though :P
[16:44] Adam Ant: 0 x 10 = 0
[16:45] Atticus: you lost me, i didn't do so hot in math
[16:45] Atticus: or was that a "no brainer" :P
[16:46] Adam Ant: I'm really down on seers atm .. I've trained many over the years and the number of events is very very low
[16:46] Adam Ant: it's hardly worth 1. the training, and 2. the super level of trust to get one or two events 
[16:47] Adam Ant: you're probably the best seer we've had
[16:47] Atticus: yea, it's the proposal process that probably burns them out. I was looking at my drafts for everything for arogoths reign the other day. it's like 15 pages or so.
[16:47] Adam Ant: and I don't expect to get another of you
[16:48] Atticus: thanks
[16:48] Atticus: but, i do know a guy that would be a fantastic seer. He wrote the advertisement sticky, and was a [companion] for the NEW guild.
[16:48] Atticus: really good companion, too.
[16:54] Adam Ant: we can discuss .. I'm about to run off, so I can't do it now.
[16:54] Adam Ant: Have you taken your new guys on a crawl yet?
[16:54] Atticus: there arn't many active new guys
[16:55] Atticus: not real sure whats making it all so.... stagnant.
[16:55] Atticus: i'm not getting the accumulation/bottleneck affect i normally do.
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[18:39] Atticus: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=586287#Post586287)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=586287#Post586287
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Feb 17 11:35:43 2008
[11:35] Adam Ant: okay, I replied to your proposal for a big-publish
[11:36] Atticus: thx
[11:36] Atticus: just finished replying
[11:42] Adam Ant: kk
[11:43] Adam Ant:  seems you skipped the reasons I listed as being significant
[11:43] Adam Ant: no manpower
[11:43] Adam Ant: that's pretty concret
[11:43] Atticus: I touched on it.
[11:43] Adam Ant: but you can't touch on the fact we have no arms if you want to tie your shoes
[11:43] Atticus: i just don't think it wouldn't get tested at all. Yes, it would take a long time to test it, but wouldn't be impossible.
[11:44] Adam Ant: it's not practical tho
[11:44] Atticus: hope and inspiration are very real things. If the team puts in an effort, they will too.
[11:44] Adam Ant: you need a concerted effort to test
[11:45] Adam Ant: you can't test systems over months .. it needs to be planned so that engineering can fix bugs
[11:45] Adam Ant: (and so thay they don't relearn the system in 6 months when  bug does come in)
[11:45] Adam Ant: It's simply not how software development works
[11:46] Adam Ant: There is also another problem you are unaware of
[11:46] Adam Ant: Source Control....
[11:46] Atticus: well, imo, testing would be internal. As one system gets finished, have staff go test.
[11:46] Adam Ant: Pezi has already asked if he can start merging pieces of the faction system onto prod
[11:46] Adam Ant: do you have any idea whay this might be?
[11:46] Atticus: what what might be?
[11:46] Adam Ant: "we have staff go test it"
[11:46] Adam Ant: who?
[11:47] Adam Ant: no one wants to
[11:47] Adam Ant: that that leaves me, and pixie, and pezi
[11:47] Atticus: and me.
[11:47] Adam Ant: (who are also on tap for writing the systems)
[11:47] Adam Ant: you don't want to test
[11:47] Atticus: I bet jonathon blade would a little, maybe apollo
[11:47] Adam Ant: maybe
[11:48] Atticus: you're right, I dont. I hate testing. And I normally don't
[11:48] Adam Ant: but who tested the recent server update?
[11:48] Adam Ant: there were two weeks of player/staff testing
[11:48] Adam Ant: and moast all bugs were found after we went live
[11:48] Atticus: that's just a server update, though. Nobody wants to test something like that, because nobody really cares, and all in all they probably didn't even want it.
[11:48] Adam Ant: and I asked probably 3 times and tried to make the point it was important
[11:49] Atticus: it was important, but it's just one of those things...
[11:49] Atticus: bland.
[11:50] Atticus: hard to explain, i guess. Big moves light fires.
[11:51] Adam Ant: how about YOU commit to 2 Seer events per month, taking at least 2 NEW players per week on a dungeon crawl, and keeping the playguide updated?
[11:51] Adam Ant: staff involvement has always been something players have asked for
[11:51] Adam Ant: but it's very hard to get anyone to do it on a regular basis
[11:52] Atticus: yea, i enjoy running [new] and being a seer. But, i'm trying to get into an apprenticeship, stay out of jail, and workin on buying a house atm.
[11:53] Atticus: and like i said in the post, i'm not saying "do this! and do it now! at this pase!" I'm just saying keep doing what you're doing, but just sit on stuff when you're done.
[11:53] Adam Ant: and I pay for the server on my own, have a family, a professional career, and a shareware side-business
[11:53] Adam Ant: we are all bust and all have lives
[11:53] Adam Ant: *busy
[11:54] Atticus: i know, which is why i wouldn't, and havn't ever said anything about a timeline, or schedule or anything of the sort.
[11:54] Adam Ant: but you must have a timeline
[11:55] Adam Ant: you can't just toss 6,000 lines of code on the server and say .. oh there is factions out there .. whatever
[11:55] Adam Ant: the engineers MUST STAY ENGUAGED to ve effective in fixing thge bugs
[11:55] Adam Ant: software development requires that you keep the system in your head
[11:56] Atticus: that makes sense. Makes sense for any sort of inventing, really.
[11:56] Adam Ant: ya, also...
[11:56] Atticus: but I don't see how that affects the "stock piling" of systems.
[11:56] Adam Ant: a detail you should be aware of
[11:56] Atticus: i'm not suggesting anything change in terms of how you DEVELOP systems, just how you implement them.
[11:57] Adam Ant: if plasma is touching (modifying) many files .. then those files are unavalible to other developers to do any features or bug fixes...
[11:57] Adam Ant: for instance...
[11:57] Adam Ant: PlayerMobile.cs if or script that descrives the properties and functions of a player
[11:58] Adam Ant: if plasma has that checked out for modification (adding features for the faction system.) then it is *hard* for other developers to do anything with it (like add Shoppkeeper profession) since the changes would be in two separate copies of the file
[11:59] Adam Ant: so...
[11:59] Adam Ant: The more stuff you are working on, the more files are 'locked up' and unavailable for other changes and modification
[12:00] Atticus: ok, i get that. I don't see how it's pertinent, though. I'm not suggesting anything like that change. How ever you guys do stuff now seems to work. The ONLY thing I'm suggesting change is to stop implementing them 1 at a time.
[12:00] Atticus: how ever it is you do it now, or what ever system you all have to keep from stepping on each others toes would stay the same.
[12:00] Adam Ant: !
[12:01] Adam Ant: if Plasma has 57 files modified for factions, I can't reasonably work on any of them until they are checked in
[12:01] Adam Ant: (lest I corrupt his changes)
[12:01] Atticus: ahhh
[12:01] Adam Ant: now
[12:02] Adam Ant: we could do as we do now and just not put them on PROD?
[12:02] Adam Ant: is that what you are suggesting?
[12:02] Atticus: you mean test?
[12:02] Adam Ant: (they would get merged onto TC)
[12:02] Adam Ant: yes
[12:02] Atticus: oh, 'not' put them on prod.
[12:02] Atticus: yea, i guess. just keep it all under wraps
[12:03] Atticus: boom affect!
[12:03] Adam Ant: then we are back to manpower for testing
[12:03] Adam Ant: and development
[12:03] Atticus: yup, it's not something i expect to be up and ready over night.
[12:04] Atticus: i envision things remaining pretty stagnant on the shard, which is more or less OK. the pop is what? 30-50 mobiles online at a time?
[12:04] Adam Ant: well, it also makes it impossible to put anything (except bug fixes) on production if all the code is in test, right?
[12:04] Atticus: aye
[12:04] Adam Ant: we would have to totally branch the code lines and remerge them down the road somewhere
[12:05] Atticus: don't know what that means
[12:05] Adam Ant: (which is a BIG job)
[12:05] Adam Ant: yet another thing that would need doing
[12:05] Adam Ant: so tell me something
[12:05] Atticus: well, what else is there TO do?
[12:05] Adam Ant: code the systems
[12:05] Adam Ant: test
[12:06] Adam Ant: and fix the bugs
[12:06] Adam Ant: Plasma is spending 100% of his time on factions
[12:06] Atticus: right, that's nothing different, though.
[12:06] Atticus: always have to code test and fix.
[12:06] Adam Ant: tell me something
[12:07] Adam Ant: whats the didderence between your proposal and the way we are doing things if i send an email announcing all we've done in the last year if you've not played the shard for a year?
[12:07] Adam Ant: *difference
[12:08] Adam Ant: if you left this shard 2 years ago...
[12:08] Adam Ant: and I sent you an email with all we have done...
[12:08] Atticus: i get what you're saying. And i've thought of it.
[12:08] Adam Ant: it would be the SAME WOW effect you are looking for
[12:08] Adam Ant: (without all the complications)
[12:09] Atticus: and i'm not sure what the difference is. But my jedi senses tell me there is one.
[12:09] Adam Ant: haha
[12:09] Atticus: :P
[12:10] Atticus: I'm not a business major or a shrink or anything like that. But, I'm pretty good about this sort of thing. I know how people tick.
[12:10] Adam Ant: well, let me ponder it some more.. 
[12:10] Adam Ant: and hear other's thoughts
[12:10] Adam Ant: but I'd like you to ....
[12:11] Adam Ant: *scrolls up*
[12:11] Adam Ant: [09:51] Luke: how about YOU commit to 2 Seer events per month, taking at least 2 NEW players per week on a dungeon crawl, and keeping the playguide updated?
 
[12:12] Adam Ant: I need help with the little things if I'm going to commit even more time
[12:12] Atticus: I am working on events and [new] ;)
[12:12] Adam Ant: okay, then maybe grab apollo to do the playguid updates?
[12:12] Atticus: you're not seeing it, i guess, but i'm there doing it. Trying to get [companion]s, setup a team, keeping an eye on the newbies and current companions. Punching away at arogoths reign
[12:13] Adam Ant: *nods*
[12:13] Atticus: I got 1 event (other than arogoths reign) setup and ready to go. spawners are up, just gotta flip the switch.
[12:13] Adam Ant: alright .. I'm off to take a hot shower to ponder this som more
[12:13] Atticus: i'm not sitting on my ass and running my mouth, i promise
[12:14] Adam Ant: :p
[12:14] Atticus: working on creating a bit of longevity for the things i'm working on, would be the best way to put it, i guess.
[12:14] Atticus: stock piling :P
[12:15] Adam Ant: okay .. didn't mean to imply you wernt doing anything .. I just look to you to to recruit help (like for the play guide)
[12:16] Atticus: yea, that i have slacked on. I pooled the mods once, but didn't get a reply.
[12:16] Atticus: i'll try to get that out of the way before i proceed with the other stuff.
[12:16] Atticus: prolly should have done that in the first place.
[12:16] Adam Ant: okay, off to the showers .. we'll talk more later
[12:16] Atticus: righto
[12:16] Atticus: later boss
[13:22] Adam Ant: FYI: lets not delete that post on AI vs Other shards just yet.
[13:46] Adam Ant: when yyou get5 some time, could you update the AI Features page .. many  of the pictures are missing .. we need to get them hosted on GMN so that we don't take the hit when 'other hosting' goes down
[13:54] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/509645/page/1#Post509645)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/509645/page/1#Post509645
[13:54] Adam Ant: hey, what's cure's ICQ?
[17:07] Atticus: 174119481
[17:25] Adam Ant: ty
[17:25] Atticus: yup yup
[23:46] Adam Ant: don't take mojo's bate and argue. in that thread.
[23:46] Adam Ant: I want to hear everyone's opinion .. I'm taking notes :p
[18:44] Atticus: hey, do you have any way of telling how many of those emails go out in a mass email?
[21:43] Adam Ant: it like 8K
[21:43] Adam Ant: 8-9
[22:31] Adam Ant: hmm... that AI vs other shards thread seems to think advertising (aligning with other gaming boards) and a web redesign are the way to go
[22:31] Adam Ant: Hmm...
[22:31] Adam Ant: I wonder where I've heard that before
[22:31] Adam Ant: :P
[22:31] Adam Ant: I'm ready to talk about your recent ideas on the subject
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[05:59] Atticus: drock = coby, i would not offer him any sort of possition
[05:59] Atticus: he made an account named "not coby" the other night with the same ip, and lots of other stuff (like aesop for his email addy... an old confirmed coby name)
[06:00] Atticus: hmmm, then again he makmes a good web site.... i need to thinketh :P
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Feb 19 15:12:33 2008
[15:12] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=586889#Post586889)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=586889#Post586889 [Offline Message (2/19/2008 [19:38])]
[15:12] Adam Ant: make sure staff knows this [Offline Message (2/19/2008 [19:38])]
[15:12] Adam Ant: oh, and could you search out all the places we mantion 1 acct per IP and massage it to 3 accounts per household please? [Offline Message (2/19/2008 [19:38])]
[15:12] Adam Ant: :) [Offline Message (2/19/2008 [19:38])]
[15:12] Adam Ant: okay, I went ahead and updated the TOS for the 3 account rule [Offline Message (2/19/2008 [20:52])]
[15:18] Atticus: that's a big move.
[15:19] Atticus: so, if someone is the only player in their household, they can have 3 acounts?
[15:19] Atticus: all multi clienting rules still apply?
[15:39] Adam Ant: yes and yes
[15:40] Adam Ant: seems with the old system, only the chraters had multiple accounts
[15:40] Atticus: ...
[15:40] Atticus: i said that in a thread in the staff forum like 6 months ago :P
[15:40] Adam Ant: :)
[15:40] Adam Ant: and you said...
[15:40] Adam Ant: We need to align with other gaming forums
[15:40] Adam Ant: AND...
[15:41] Adam Ant: we need a web update
[15:41] Atticus: aye
[15:41] Adam Ant: (Takes me time to absorb it )
[15:41] Adam Ant: :P
[15:41] Atticus: i had that character planet thing in the palm of my hand too... now i cant track him down
[15:41] Adam Ant: when I get back I'll create abunch of test webs and hand you the keys so that you can hand them out to players that want to try to build us a new look (you included)
[15:42] Adam Ant: maybe we could make a contest out of it
[15:42] Adam Ant: oh, I'm off to disneyland till friday
[15:42] Adam Ant: :)
[15:42] Atticus: ah, sweet
[15:42] Atticus: right now?
[15:42] Adam Ant: yeah, celebrating melanie's birthday
[15:42] Adam Ant: in like 20 minutes, yes
[15:43] Atticus: ok, well, what are your plans exactly?
[15:43] Adam Ant: wrt a web?
[15:43] Atticus: new web site and try to advertise a little? or do the big publish thing also?
[15:44] Adam Ant: maybe .. still baking the thoughts
[15:44] Adam Ant: but, we need to do something
[15:44] Adam Ant: that much is clear
[15:44] Atticus: aye. been pretty up and down... you need a community to sustain a community, and the only way to do that is with a bang.
[15:45] Adam Ant: yep
[15:45] Adam Ant: we need that critical mass of 75 onlime minimum
[15:45] Adam Ant: 100 preferred
[15:46] Atticus: i don't think 100 will sustain itself. I think the goal should be to try to hit somewhere around 300-400 in one huge burst
[15:46] Adam Ant: we'll talk more when I return .. I need to get ready
[15:46] Atticus: we've already seen the climb to 100 five or six times, and the inevidable decline
[15:46] Atticus: ok
[15:46] Adam Ant: see you friday!
[15:46] Atticus: later
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Feb 22 19:31:05 2008
[19:32] Atticus: not sure if you intend for it to or not, but there's a lot of other input in that "shard wipe" thread that you locked, and the reply you gave comes off as saying "we arn't going to change anything." If that's not what you meant, you may want to try to make it crystal clear that it's just wiping the shard that you're against.
[20:38] Adam Ant: alright thanks .. I'll have another look
[20:54] Adam Ant: Burlyt sounds awefiully bitter .. please foilow him .. he still has a counselor, right?
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Feb 23 08:46:36 2008
[08:47] Atticus: yes, he still has a counselor, and he's been bitter for a while.
[08:47] Atticus: i havn't seen him on the counselor or post anything on the staff boards in a long time, either/
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Feb 23 11:22:41 2008
[11:22] Atticus: so, the boards went crazy while you were gone
[11:23] Atticus: but, there was some really good input, and even a couple offers from people to help out.
[11:40] Adam Ant: well, contact those that want to do a website .. I'll set up test webs for them .. maybe even make a contest?
[11:40] Adam Ant: this may be good as it would be a signal we are serious!
[11:40] Atticus: i thought about that, i think a contest would be best in terms of getting the best site, but, it would make us look weak and unprofessional
[11:40] Atticus: that's also true.
[11:41] Atticus: well, when you get a chance to think and decide how much "change" you want let me know, and i'll brainstorm everything.
[11:41] Atticus: i just don't know exactly what it is you're thinking right now.
[11:42] Atticus: if it's just a new web page, that will be easy. If worse comes to worse I can have an functional and informative web page ready in a couple days, but i'd rather hire someone else to do it.
[11:44] Atticus: bleh, i'm rambling now :P anywho, my opinion is that a new web page wouldn't be enough to get the shard out of this slump.
[13:35] Adam Ant: well, start looking for maybe 5 individuals to build the web sites .. I'll provide the temp domains.. make it a contest .. I think that shows that we need the help of the players .. 
[13:35] Adam Ant: You are free to enter too!
[13:43] Atticus: you lost me... why 5 individuals?
[14:00] Atticus: and does that mean you decided to go with the web page/advertisement path?
[14:00] Atticus: and skip any sort of development/hype hoopla?
[14:09] Adam Ant: they are not mutually exclusive
[14:09] Adam Ant: I was giving you something you can start on today without further input from me
[14:10] Adam Ant: 5 was a random number .. but...
[14:10] Adam Ant: I want more than one to choose from, and don't want to create 100 subdomains
[14:10] Adam Ant: so some reasonable number is preferred
[14:10] Adam Ant: I suggest picking players that can point to *smething* they have done .. or at least prove to you they know a the basics
[14:14] Atticus: ok.
[14:14] Atticus: gotcha.
[14:15] Atticus: and they will be charged with upkeeping the site? or that will be me?
[14:15] Atticus: (or someone else)
[14:50] Adam Ant: still undewcided .. them hopfully
[14:50] Adam Ant: but we will take what we can get
[14:50] Adam Ant: What do you think about tis
[14:50] Adam Ant: I was speaking with a player recently and she/he gave me a great idea with regard to posting rights being tied to game activity. i.e., if you’ve not played the game in X weeks, you can’t post in say the General Discussion forum. 
 This would prevent the trolls from coming back every few months to sling crap at the rest of the community (under the guise of trying to help.) 
 
[14:50] Atticus: ok, i'm just trying to get everything straight. It seems weird to host a contest to hire someone onto the team.
[14:51] Atticus: so rather, i'd like to take APPLICATIONS and sift through the best ones, if that's alright?
[14:51] Atticus: i think that's a great idea.
[14:51] Atticus: anything, really.
[14:52] Atticus: yogi had an idea to make the boards invite only, but not sure how that would work... not sure what we would use as a pool to pull invites from.
[14:52] Atticus: I posted an idea in the staff forum earlier today to setup just another group of forums (another General Discussion and suggestions) that would be invite only.
[14:53] Atticus: and would basically be for people who can compose themselves maturely on the board. Not necessarily great input, just a more mature community.
[16:09] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=588499#Post588499)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=588499#Post588499
[16:12] Atticus: oceanic commerce?
[16:12] Atticus: apollos proposal?
[16:24] Adam Ant: no, my own from long ago
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Feb 24 18:00:38 2008
[18:00] Adam Ant: When you get a few minutes can you update this please [Offline Message (2/24/2008 [17:31])]
[18:00] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/20938#Post20938)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/20938#Post20938 [Offline Message (2/24/2008 [17:31])]
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Feb 25 14:50:57 2008
[14:50] Adam Ant: no more hot swapping message board accounts please (it's not fooling anyone) [Offline Message (2/25/2008 [18:48])]
[14:50] Adam Ant: I asked Burly why he was so pissed and calling staff all the names and here was his reply: [Offline Message (2/25/2008 [18:48])]
[14:50] Adam Ant: I was more or less angry at everyone for saying that it is because of me and my commrades that the population is low.   
  
It wasn't a shot at you personally. I did however take a shot at Atticus for saying one thing, then getting on his Kadull account and posting something totally different.   
  
I know you two aren't the same person, thankfully.   
  
I love AI, this is my home. But, when I get respectable players and staff coming out of the wood work to tell me I'm the reason the player base is shitty, then I take offense. I haven't done anything bad in a long, long while.  
  
No bad blood with you though, sorry that it came across that way.  [Offline Message (2/25/2008 [18:48])]
[14:52] Atticus: i don't recall him saying anything.
[14:52] Atticus: to me*
[14:52] Adam Ant: ohwell, no biggy
[14:52] Atticus: my concerns were a couple comments he made about the shard and staff in general
[14:52] Adam Ant: yep yep
[14:52] Adam Ant: faction core is checked in ... 
[14:52] Atticus: i also don't "swap accounts" and contradict myself.
[14:52] Adam Ant: (but turned off)
[14:53] Atticus: i make more player oriented comments on kadull and more official and staff related things on atticus...
[14:53] Adam Ant: ah, ok
[14:53] Atticus: just like everyone else on staff
[14:53] Adam Ant: well, not everyone
[14:53] Adam Ant: :P
[14:53] Atticus: most
[14:55] Atticus: "faction core is checked in" does that mean no "big patch"?
[14:56] Adam Ant: no .. it just means we need to incrementally add stuff so that engineering is not tripping over eachothers changes
[14:56] Adam Ant: it turned off to the players, but allows engineering to 'sync up'
[14:57] Atticus: oh, so it can all be on but not active, you mean?
[14:57] Adam Ant: yes
[15:03] Atticus: ok
[15:04] Atticus: web designer: My understanding is that you're looking to expand the staff team and hire a volunteer to build and maintain a web site for Angel Island, correcT?
[15:05] Adam Ant: ideally, tes
[15:06] Adam Ant: but I'll settle for a one-off
[15:06] Atticus: someone to just build it for now, you mean?
[15:25] Atticus: Hi gang. 
  
 After reading through and considering many of your suggestions the team here at Angel Island has decided to expand itself and hire a web designer. 
  
 Your task will be to build and maintain a site for Angel Island. The goal is for the site to be a 1 stop shop for all Angel Island information that players can visit for all the information they will need on angel island, including the playguide, how to connect, news, etc. 
  
 If you would like to apply for the job please send in your application to me via PM. Please be sure to include some sort of example site that we I can view to gauge your experience and expertise. This can be a mock run of the AI page you wish to build. 
  
 We are still interested in seeing your site if you you are interested in creating it, but fear you wont have the time to maintain it. 
  
 Good luck to everyone who applies, and thank you in advance!
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Feb 26 15:01:15 2008
[15:25] Atticus: have you gotten any Apps. for the website in your PM box?
[15:39] Atticus: has anything with stat caps been touched recently? I'm trying to test some stuff for an event on TC but can't seem to set any player characters rawstr/str/hits above 100
[15:39] Adam Ant: sec .. restarting server
[15:43] Adam Ant: okay, ... no apps yet :\
[15:44] Atticus: ok, i got one so far.
[15:44] Adam Ant: ? I'm trying to test some stuff for an event on TC but can't seem to set any player characters rawstr/str/hits above 100
[15:44] Adam Ant: We changed something there!
[15:44] Adam Ant: you and I
[15:44] Atticus: well, there was the addition of the strbonuscap
[15:44] Atticus: but i havn't had any troubles with anything since that was put in
[15:45] Adam Ant: don't you need to increase the strbonus cap?
[15:45] Atticus: strbonuscap is a cap for the damage bonus you get from str.
[15:46] Atticus: so i should be able to set rawstr to 60000 and the strbonuscap to 100 so damages don't get screwy
[15:46] Adam Ant: ah, right
[15:46] Adam Ant: oh
[15:46] Adam Ant: are you trying to set the stats of a player above 100?
[15:46] Atticus: yes
[15:47] Adam Ant: that's never worked
[15:47] Atticus: which i've done in the past with no troubles.
[15:47] Adam Ant: you need to make them a counselor, then set the stats, then change them back to a player
[15:48] Adam Ant: are you positive .. because I remember trying that years ago and it didn't work (because of some builtin cap for players)
[15:53] Atticus: aye, pretty sure. I seem to remember setting a test char of mine, and a test char of burly's
[15:53] Atticus: I'll see if i can test it with my seer, though.
[15:53] Atticus: one thing I'm going to need eventually though is the ability to flick on regular looting rules for staff chars
[15:54] Atticus: currently, no matter what loottype a set an item too, anything on a staff character will stay with them when they die
[15:59] Atticus: gotta take my dog to the vet. I'll be back in a bit
[16:00] Adam Ant: kk
[18:11] Atticus: back
[19:16] Adam Ant: so does your web guy need a temp web to prototype on?
[19:17] Atticus: well, he just sent me a link to 1 site he did.
[19:17] Atticus: (Link: http://www.coxlegal.com/)http://www.coxlegal.com/
[19:20] Atticus: i just sent a PM asking if he'd like a temp web
[19:20] Adam Ant: kk
[19:46] Atticus: might as well give me the temp web info now
[19:46] Atticus: or send it to him
[20:03] Adam Ant: did he tell you he wants one?
[20:03] Adam Ant: I'd rather not take the time to create one if he doesn't need it
[20:49] Atticus: this was his reply when i asked if he'd like one:
[20:49] Atticus: "sure if you wish. but honestly what i would do for AI is keep its basic structure and function. But use a new forum software, and jaz z it up using photoshop etc."
[21:17] Adam Ant: and your thoughts on that?
[21:17] Atticus: not sure what he has in mind yet
[21:18] Atticus: or if what he wants to do can be done with UBB, instead of purhcasing new forum software
[21:19] Adam Ant: you realize there is a trap in switching out forum software X for sofware Y simply because he's familiar with forum software Y
[21:19] Atticus: a trap?
[21:20] Adam Ant: 1. there is 8 years of history in this forum, 10s of thousands of posts
 2. UBB *probably* can do what he wants, he's just not familiar with it
 3. I thought our objective was to get a website instead of forum based content
[21:21] Atticus: was just getting at the "sure if you wish" bit :P
[21:22] Adam Ant: sorry, I don't know what you mean
[21:23] Atticus: i gave you too much information
[21:23] Atticus: in response to me asking if he wanted a web to work with, his initial reply was "sure"
[21:26] Adam Ant: yeah, but his follow on that that worries me a bit...
[21:26] Adam Ant: doesn't it worry you?
[21:26] Adam Ant: "sure if you wish. but honestly what i would do for AI is keep its basic structure and function. But use a new forum software, and jaz z it up using photoshop etc."
[21:26] Adam Ant: he's not saying he will or wants to do a web
[21:26] Adam Ant: he wants to swap out the BBS
[21:26] Adam Ant: which is not what we talked about
[21:26] Atticus: BBS?
[21:27] Adam Ant: lol, you were the one tellimg me we needed a nice gaming website
[21:27] Atticus: we do
[21:27] Adam Ant: well why are we entertaining swapping out the messageboard system then
[21:28] Adam Ant: (especially considering points 1&2 above)
[21:28] Atticus: adam, i'm just saying set the guy up a web server. I'll ask him to clarify before you set it up, but i'm pretty sure by "sure if you wish" means, yes if that's how you want it, i'll do it this way, and the rest is a suggestion
[21:28] Adam Ant: okay
[21:29] Adam Ant: I guess this is how I see you directing this...
[21:29] Adam Ant: You say that we can morph the message board into most any look, to match the theme of the site
[21:29] Atticus: there may still be the other thing we talked about... building a site that displays through the forums (but seemingly external, unlike the current format) but i think  i remember seeing some extra security issues with that
[21:30] Adam Ant: that we want a non-messageboard based landing page that matches what gamers are used to seeing
[21:30] Atticus: aye
[21:30] Adam Ant: okay, I'll go create him a web
[21:31] Atticus: the board display is all CSS. I'm not sure where images for custom themes would be stored, but i can look into that if you want to go that route next
[21:31] Adam Ant: I'd kind of like you to take the lead :p
[21:31] Atticus: ok
[21:32] Adam Ant: my only *real* concern is that we not dump 8 years of posting history simply because someone knows another board software
[21:32] Atticus: right
[21:32] Atticus: didn't cross my mind.
[21:32] Atticus: sorry, i had a day from absolute fucking hell.
[21:33] Adam Ant: ack .. sorry :\
[21:33] Adam Ant: what happened?
[21:33] Atticus: car in ditch at 6:00am, cop arresting me because of a screw up in another county, 300 dollar bond, over half a day off work
[21:33] Adam Ant: wow
[21:33] Adam Ant: :\
[21:33] Atticus: and the screw up? yea, second time... exact same thing
[21:33] Atticus: old car needed an admissions test AFTER i sold it.... they suspended my license without notice
[21:34] Atticus: a while back... i got that all taken care of ( i thought, so they told me)... nope.
[21:34] Atticus: as of this morning i found out it WASN'T taken care of, despite what i was told by the county, and have had a warrant out for my arrest for months and months
[21:35] Atticus: messy
[21:35] Adam Ant: wow
[21:35] Adam Ant: *tries to think of a different response*
[21:36] Adam Ant: so what's the bottomline?
[21:36] Atticus: no idea
[21:36] Adam Ant: your ...
[21:36] Atticus: the warrant was for skipping court more or less
[21:36] Atticus: which i shouldnt have had to go to, since i cleared it all up.
[21:36] Atticus: so god knows what they'll do to me from here, since it's technically not the admissions any more, it's failure to appear in court
[21:39] Atticus: was sitting in my car in a ditch in the side of the road after i lost control and almost smashed into oncoming traffic when a cop showed up
[21:39] Atticus: i thought "oh good, help has arrived" and started to get out of my car, at which point he started going nuts... so i thought "that can't be good." and it wasnt :P
[21:41] Atticus: then, immediately after being handcuffed and put in the squad car, my partner (read: boss and sponsor for apprenticeship) arrives
[21:44] Atticus: oh, and he had his kid with him.
[21:45] Adam Ant: :\
[21:45] Adam Ant: eep
[21:56] Adam Ant: sec .. I'll have the login info for you shortly
[21:59] Adam Ant: okay, it's all setup and it works .. I just logged in there
[21:59] Adam Ant: I turned on PHP, ASP, etc ... 
[21:59] Adam Ant: please save this info for future reference
[21:59] Adam Ant: domain: temp1.game-master.net ((Link: ftp://temp1.game-master.net/)ftp://temp1.game-master.net/)
 user: temp1
 pass: snn66ee
[22:14] Atticus: ok, i'll forward the info to him
[22:47] Adam Ant: thanks .. and I hope things start looking up for you man :\
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Feb 28 18:29:03 2008
[18:29] Adam Ant: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=589808#Post589808)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=589808#Post589808
[18:29] Atticus: just saw it
[18:29] Atticus: *tits*
[18:29] Adam Ant: is *tits* good or bad? :o
[18:29] Atticus: ... you must be an ass man.
[18:29] Adam Ant: haha
[18:29] Adam Ant: well, yes actually
[18:30] Adam Ant: but that's another conversation ;p
[18:30] Atticus: well, then, *buttox*
[18:30] Adam Ant: ok, then you are happy
[18:30] Adam Ant: I think it's the right
[18:30] Adam Ant:  thing
[18:31] Adam Ant: and .. if we get folks coming from other shards, we had better have the correct maps installed
[18:31] Atticus: one downside is that i assume it limits what dungeons we can and can't use?
[18:31] Adam Ant: (and I checked divinity today .. they are running like ML .. nothing newer)
[18:31] Atticus: well, continues to
[18:31] Adam Ant: no more than we have always had 
[18:31] Adam Ant: nothing > AOS
[18:33] Atticus: noted
[18:37] Atticus: TC down?
[18:54] Atticus: btw, the cross shard challenge lacks 2 things, IMO.
[18:54] Atticus: a climax and a reward.
[18:55] Atticus: with it being 3 hours long, after about an hour - an hour and a half things will start to dwindle, and people will get bored. there should be a "main event."
[18:55] Atticus: and there should also be some sort of reward. that's tricky, as we can't give players anything on their home shards.
[18:57] Atticus: maybe open a small dungeon for the last hour of the event and turn ressurect off to make it a "last man standing" event. If Krprwner McBuyAChar from hybrid wins, we announce that hybrid was the winner of the cross shard challenge?
[18:58] Atticus: making their reward embarrassing us on our own shard?
[21:40] Adam Ant: It's a risky endevor, I wanted to keep it simple and fool proof
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Feb 29 16:01:29 2008
[16:01] Adam Ant: Okay, official position: (Link: http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=39513#Post39513)http://www.game-master.net/pit/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=39513#Post39513 [Offline Message (2/29/2008 [17:21])]
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 02 10:20:49 2008
[10:21] Atticus: Hey boss. You know the solen hives? did you remove the entrances to them from the game? (other than green thorns)?
[10:24] Adam Ant: yes
[10:27] Atticus: ok. i've been brainstorming a lot for arogoth's reign. my plan is to design some new monsters specifically for that story line to A: limit confusion as to why the "undead" creatures arn't kin aligned and B: add more content to PVM/roleplay. The solen hives would fit the storyline (arogoth's secret, underground lair) so I was thinking about opening those and filling them with the unique spawn. Is that general concept acceptable to you?
[10:28] Adam Ant: yep
[10:28] Adam Ant: however... well\
[10:28] Adam Ant: isn't arogoth one of our original Mystic council guys?
[10:28] Adam Ant: there were like 4
[10:28] Atticus: is he?
[10:29] Adam Ant: well, where did you get the name
[10:29] Atticus: no idea, i'd have to look into that... that would just be a matter of changing his name though.
[10:29] Atticus: i just thought the name up.
[10:29] Adam Ant: as long is it's not one of the original council guys we had attack magincia years ago, I'm ok with the idea
[10:30] Adam Ant: otherwise I would like to remail true to the theme
[10:30] Atticus: well, the theme is something i created. He's a necromancer. I didn't get the name from anywhere, so fixing that possible issue is as easy as changing the main characters name.
[10:33] Adam Ant: Have you given thought to how to put on events without development?
[10:33] Atticus: :P
[10:34] Atticus: well, it may not need development. I like the idea of only being able to get in with green thorns.
[10:34] Adam Ant: we can always develope for the seers .. but a huge benifit of having a seer is to leverage the systems we have in game (which allors developmet just a little rest and peace)
[10:35] Adam Ant: if development goes from normal evelopment to seer development, then back to normal development, we will never get any sort of break
[10:35] Adam Ant: just something to consider
[10:35] Adam Ant: This is one of my objectives, my goals
[10:35] Adam Ant: that seers be able to do stuff for the population that does not cost development 
[10:35] Adam Ant: (which prevents developer burn out)
[10:35] Adam Ant: (which is a very real concern)
[10:36] Atticus: the only development i can think of that seers really need is listed in 1 post in dev center, but those are things to enhance seers and their events all around.
[10:37] Adam Ant: what is ti you think green thorns do?
[10:37] Atticus: if you plant them in sand they open a hole to the solen hives
[10:37] Adam Ant: no sir
[10:37] Adam Ant: we have no such thing
[10:37] Atticus: you do on test center
[10:38] Adam Ant: then we don't drop green thorns
[10:38] Atticus: yes you do. I see them on vendors and such all the time.
[10:39] Atticus: and i seem to remember mashiara demonstrating what they do when you plant them on dirt roads
[10:39] Atticus: (spawn regs)
[10:39] Adam Ant: so... helpe me understand
[10:39] Adam Ant: they are currently available on prod and open an entrance to an empyy cave?
[10:40] Atticus: yup
[10:40] Adam Ant: !
[10:40] Atticus: well, the cave has a moongate leading out
[10:40] Adam Ant: I'll want you to show me this after server wars today .. seems odd that we would leave thaty
[10:41] Adam Ant: but assuming it's the case, then yeah .. I guess you could use that
[10:41] Atticus: it is, i'm in there right now.
[10:42] Adam Ant: I'm sure the cave is there
[10:42] Adam Ant: my doubts is that we provide a mians for players to get there
[10:45] Atticus: looking at some green thorns on a vendor at flannery flynns place, also
[10:47] Adam Ant: that too is wonderful .. but you've not said: I have tested green thorns and verified they open an entrance to an empty cave
[10:48] Adam Ant: because that's what I'd have to do to prove what you're saying
[10:48] Atticus: yes, i have tested that.
[10:48] Atticus: on TC and prod
[10:48] Adam Ant: ty
[10:48] Adam Ant: that's what I needed to hear
[10:48] Atticus: need to test a little futher.. not sure how long the wholes stay open or if multiple people can run through them etc
[10:49] Atticus: the caves arn't the important part, though. what i was really interested in in knowing if i can open a dungeon. if i end up not using the solen caves, i'll let you know so you can fix that
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Mar 03 19:40:14 2008
[19:40] Atticus: I'm gonna turn the shout box off 'till we get some more mods for the boards, if thats ok.
[19:41] Atticus: there's currently 1 (roark).
[20:08] Adam Ant: okay
[22:56] Adam Ant: what was it today that caused you to yank the shoutbox?
[22:57] Atticus: going to bed in a sec, but lots of "fuck you" "you're a queer" being thrown around.
[22:57] Atticus: and logging in in the mornings before i go to work to see the same stuff.
[22:57] Atticus: the people complaining about it right now are the 'exact' same people that are doing this, the second the team logs off
[22:58] Adam Ant: but I like it
[22:58] Adam Ant: I like logging in and seeing discussion
[22:58] Adam Ant: I think it gives the board life
[22:58] Adam Ant: I don't care abiout the people complaining
[22:58] Adam Ant: I think it's a powerful tool
[22:58] Adam Ant: abused, yes .. but 90% good
[22:58] Atticus: so do i... i think it's fucking great
[22:59] Atticus: could be an incredible tool, but the boards don't get moderated and it's a mostly shit community shitting in their the same way they do the rest of the boards. Someone said it best in BZ "shoutbox is a zit on a hemeroid"
[23:00] Atticus: do what you want, obviously. but i think it's pretty bad for passer-bys to come to the boards and see "fuck you, queer. i'm the greatest ever"
[23:01] Adam Ant: I think I'll bring it back ... I look at it every day, at least as much as you do, and Im not getting overly offended .. 
[23:02] Adam Ant: and you KNOW what a prude I am :p
[23:02] Atticus: you're not a prude at all... and neither am I.
[23:02] Atticus: i don't look and think "wow, that offends me" i look and think "wow, that's going to be a big turn off to anyone that isn't as moronic as these guys"
[23:03] Adam Ant: you ever read the divity boards?
[23:03] Adam Ant: or any of them .. they are all bad
[23:03] Atticus: but what ever. at least let me turn it back on (tomorrow) so i can get the knitting circle off my back a little.
[23:03] Adam Ant: ok
[23:04] Atticus: they're not as bad as G-M.net... G-M.net turns into a complete kindergarten in a matter of seconds (and the rest of the time it's first grade)
[23:05] Adam Ant: well, turn it one tomorrow, and I'll see if I can't scare up another mod
[23:05] Atticus: i miss yogi
[23:05] Adam Ant: me too
[23:05] Atticus: bah, i donno.
[23:05] Atticus: more to come... i'm going to bed, though.
[23:06] Atticus: i'll turn it on when i get home from work.
[23:06] Adam Ant: okay
[23:06] Adam Ant: and no getting depressed
[23:06] Adam Ant: :P
[23:06] Adam Ant: g'night
[23:06] Atticus: later
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Mar 04 16:26:26 2008
[16:26] Atticus: howdy. could you cut the [report logs from my email for me? Atticusnew@gmail.com
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[19:29] Adam Ant: yeah, alright .. you seem to be backing away from more and more responsibility
[19:30] Adam Ant: first the playguid updates, now the review of the logs
[19:30] Adam Ant: everything alright
[19:30] Adam Ant: ?
[19:32] Adam Ant: Okay, I've removed you from log review
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Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Mar 05 14:42:17 2008
[14:42] Atticus: alright, thanks.
[15:02] Atticus: lol, here's the first thing i see when i log in.
[15:02] Atticus: [x] [The Almity Bruce] i doubt yu beat cannon pete 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] You have never said anything about this, so what chars was it? 
 [x] [The Almity Bruce] i wipe your whole crew with one tamer 
 [x] [The Almity Bruce] and canon pete would destroy me with just himself 
 [x] [Crassus] I don't really care. I know it happened, and you know it happened. Sath and Culain were there with me and they know it happened. 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] You apparently do care but it didnt happen, my theory is you were mad about dying to us with bigger numbers 
 [x] [Crassus] Actually the second part of the fight was a 3 (us) v. 4(you) as we were gating out. 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] This was a week or so after I manipulated your emotions into dropping your no count zone in this very pout box 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] oh when we seperated three of you by dispelling your gate, and then slaughtering and looting all of you... ok now im remembering 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] *shouts* 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] yeah i didnt die in that, i do remember looting a lot of your stuff though and having to gate it out 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] Maybe you are mistaking me for an ettin wizard? there are about 7 of those 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] I was on cannonball pete that fight 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] dont be so quick to throw the word "cheater" around sir 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] Im off to class, im outta here! 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] ur a cheater pete 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] TRUE 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] lol 
 [x] [Cannonball Pete] *cheats your loots* haha later! 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] goto class, cheater 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] TB your such a retard 
 [x] [Marbles.] says the guy who lurks here "every now and then" insulting people? 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] that would be me. 
 [x] [Marbles.] yah, you 
 [x] [Miasma] well leroy is that asearious bid 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] ya, i got it the first time retard. no need to repeat yourself 
 [x] [Leroy Brown] ya, i been thinking of restarting. will need some gear 
 [x] [Marbles.] RETARD 
 [x] [Miasma] were do u want to meet leroy 
[19:40] Adam Ant: yeah, .. I know these guys aren't rocket scientists
[19:57] Adam Ant: so you're quitting board management?
[20:12] Atticus: aye, among other things (for good this time). I'm going to try to find someone (capable) to take over [new]. I'll let you know who i come up with. But i don't have time to talk.
[20:12] Atticus: i gotta go.
[20:16] Adam Ant: alright :\
[21:28] Adam Ant: I've got two mods starting to help moderate the shoutbox/message board
[21:32] Atticus: alright. i talked to mashi about [new], and she doesn't think she has time for it. if you can think of someone willing to fill those shoes, i'd ask.
[21:33] Adam Ant: so is this about me not waiting for you to turn on the shoutbox?
[21:33] Atticus: it's a lot of things. i just have too much going on.
[21:34] Adam Ant: okay
[21:34] Adam Ant: well, I hope you come back when things cool down
[21:43] Atticus: if i do it wont be for a long time
[21:44] Atticus: so, don't know what you want to do about the felix account.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Mar 06 15:17:35 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Mar 06 17:53:34 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Thu Mar 06 18:34:16 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Thu Mar 06 19:41:25 2008
[19:41] Adam Ant: Okay, I'll suspend it
[19:41] Adam Ant: I hope things look up fpor you .. I care about what you're going through
[19:43] Atticus: alright, thanks
[20:24] Adam Ant: Okay, I've captured the New stone and will attempt to set a new GM
[20:24] Atticus: well, ok... i was looking for one for you.
[20:25] Atticus: i have someone( s ) thinking about it atm
[20:26] Atticus: I'll keep you posted
[20:37] Adam Ant: kk\
[23:05] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Mar 06 23:05:46 2008.
[23:05] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Thu Mar 06 23:05:56 2008.
[11:04] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Mar 07 11:04:12 2008.
[11:04] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Mar 07 11:04:19 2008.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri Mar 07 20:21:41 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Mar 11 16:28:16 2008
[16:28] Atticus: hey boss. Quick question... what are the specs on the AI test server?
[16:55] Adam Ant: hmm...
[16:55] Atticus: howdy.
[16:56] Adam Ant: hi :)
[16:56] Atticus: btw, everyone keeps saying "sorry about what happened, adam did ya dirty" and stuff like that... so, wanted to clear up that I didn't leave because you turned the shoutbox on and offended me (but it was rude, since i asked you not to)...
[16:56] Adam Ant: 2.4GH, 1 GB RAM
[16:56] Atticus: so, no hard feelings from me, just wanted to clear that up.
[16:56] Adam Ant: RAID 1
[16:56] Atticus: ok
[16:57] Atticus: thanka
[16:57] Adam Ant: mp
[16:59] Adam Ant: yeah, I think we were all feeling frustration
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Mar 15 13:16:26 2008
[13:16] Atticus: ha! check this one out
[13:16] Atticus: (Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj0Ma2CsHME)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj0Ma2CsHME
[13:21] Adam Ant: god, I'd crap my pants
[13:22] Adam Ant: especially if threy were all japanese!
[13:22] Atticus: i know! my favorite was when they all stopped, pointed at the guy then charged
[13:22] Atticus: "there he is!!!"
[13:22] Atticus: "RAAAAAAWRRR!!"
[13:24] Atticus: they're called "flashmobs" ... huge groups of people just doing crazy shit
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 16 15:58:05 2008
[15:58] Atticus: could you add my IP to the ban list on the boards, please?
[15:58] Atticus: thanka!
[16:06] Adam Ant: alright
[16:07] Adam Ant: done
[16:07] Atticus: thanks
[16:07] Atticus: bye
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Mar 16 16:07:51 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 16 16:07:54 2008
[16:07] Adam Ant: :\
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 16 20:04:51 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Mar 16 20:05:02 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Mar 17 19:59:34 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon Mar 17 19:59:44 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Mar 22 17:59:16 2008
[17:59] Atticus: howdy
[17:59] Atticus: you about and available?
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 23 15:44:05 2008
[15:44] Adam Ant: sure, what;s up? [Offline Message (3/23/2008 [21:19])]
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Mar 23 15:44:11 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Mar 24 12:59:22 2008
[12:59] Adam Ant: I'm here now .. what's up?
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue Mar 25 13:09:16 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Mar 26 15:11:26 2008
[15:11] Atticus: you about?
Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Mar 26 16:59:33 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Mar 26 17:15:56 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Wed Mar 26 17:16:07 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Wed Mar 26 18:37:34 2008
[18:37] Adam Ant: yes sir.. what's up?
[18:37] Atticus: howdy
[18:37] Atticus: Been talking to flynn and he's agreed to take over the [new] stone.
[18:38] Atticus: figured i'd check with you first because of the auto addition stuff
[18:38] Atticus: so, that alright with you?
[18:38] Adam Ant: yep, that's fine with me
[18:39] Atticus: righto
[18:39] Atticus: i'll let you know when i'm done transfering the stone so you can unfreaze it
[18:39] Atticus: freeze
[18:39] Adam Ant: sure
[18:45] Atticus: um, where is it?
[19:10] Adam Ant: I moved it incase you were thinking of dropping your house
[19:10] Adam Ant: (you were pulling up stakes pretty fast)
[19:11] Atticus: i was pulling out, not trying to screw you :P
[19:11] Adam Ant: oh I know .. not a screw-over I was protecting myself from
[19:11] Atticus: i think i'm going to need to transfer GM status though, or is that something you can do?
[19:12] Adam Ant: I just thought you were exiting and I wanted to preserve the stone
[19:13] Adam Ant: I don't think there is a way to do it without coding it in there .. I think tho if you add hger to the stone and you vote her fealty, she will become GM
[19:13] Adam Ant: he's finding a place near you as we speak
[19:13] Atticus: sweet
[19:13] Atticus: if you guys want you can just take over the [new] tower for now
[19:14] Adam Ant: that would be easier
[19:14] Adam Ant: I'll give you a deed to a replacement if you like
[19:16] Atticus: there's other stuff in there, too.
[19:16] Atticus: what if we....
[19:17] Atticus: no, that should be fine.
[19:17] Atticus: there's a couple rares in there (like, 2) that were gifts to me, but i don't think shae would mind them staying in the tower
[19:17] Adam Ant: okay, what upgrade did you apply to the place?
[19:17] Atticus: castle upgrade, but that was from donations to [new]
[19:18] Adam Ant: okay
[19:18] Atticus: i burned through my gold long before that
[19:18] Atticus: so, yea.
[19:18] Adam Ant: you there now?
[19:18] Atticus: if i think of anything major i want to yank later on i'll let you know, but i don't think theres anything that really belongs to me
[19:18] Atticus: that i need, anyways
[19:18] Adam Ant: alright
[19:18] Atticus: yea, i'm there
[19:19] Adam Ant: kk
[19:21] Atticus: co-own me to it, please so i can jump on to help flynn if need be
[19:23] Adam Ant: kk
[22:25] *** You have been disconnected. Thu Mar 27 22:25:07 2008.
[22:25] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Thu Mar 27 22:25:16 2008.
[04:54] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Mar 28 04:54:19 2008.
[04:54] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Fri Mar 28 04:54:27 2008.
[16:52] *** You have been disconnected. Fri Mar 28 16:52:33 2008.
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Mar 30 09:58:03 2008
[20:25] *** You have been disconnected. Sun Mar 30 20:25:56 2008.
[20:26] *** "Adam Ant" signed on at Sun Mar 30 20:26:06 2008.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Mon Mar 31 19:57:03 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Apr 06 18:48:52 2008
[18:54] Atticus: (Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkYZ6rbPU2M)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkYZ6rbPU2M
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Apr 06 22:55:20 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Mon Apr 07 15:00:43 2008
[15:00] Adam Ant: lol, that was great!
[15:00] Atticus: ?
[15:00] Atticus: oh, the video
[15:00] Adam Ant: I want a musical next time I go to buy a hamburgewr
[15:01] Atticus: yea, those guys do a lot of stuff
[15:01] Atticus: one time they pretended to be U2 and did a "free concert" on top of some roof in a big city (i think New York)
[15:01] Atticus: 'til the cops came and arrested them for... can't remember the charges, i think disturbing the peace
[15:03] Adam Ant: lol
[15:20] Atticus: hey, have you heard anything about what's going on with connectUO?
[15:20] Atticus: I can't find any info on it.
[16:03] Adam Ant: well .. I saw Topshards is now being redirected to it, so I assumed they were merging .. however it's been a mess for a long time
[16:04] Adam Ant: if you're interested .. see what Divinitty and the other gamers shards are doing .. if they've removed the links, or if they are myseriously working for them
[16:04] Adam Ant: !
[16:04] Atticus: they're down on all of them
[16:05] Adam Ant: hmm
[16:05] Adam Ant: lame
[16:14] Atticus: indeed
[16:14] Atticus: you'd think they'd at least tell people wtf is going on, considering how many use it and rely on it
[16:19] Atticus: ok, just saw this sig...
[16:19] Atticus: "You really have to hand it to a blind prostitute..."
[16:24] Adam Ant: lol
[17:13] Atticus: I have another question if you got a second.... but note this is pertinent to a shard I hope to open sooner or later.
[17:13] Atticus: how the hell did you find such good devs?
[17:14] Atticus: or did you know them from your player days?
[17:33] Adam Ant: my shard attracted the good devs, I didn't go looking
[17:34] Atticus: ah, you started on your own?
[17:34] Adam Ant: however being a seasoned professional, I knerw how to separate the good from the poor
[17:34] Adam Ant: yes
[17:34] Atticus: hmm, i did plan to do dev hiring while in development, but i wanted to start with a good team
[17:34] Atticus: oh well
[17:34] Adam Ant: well... let me qualify that
[17:35] Adam Ant: I started on my own .. me and jade and asked the posters on GMN to PM me if they were C# programmers
[17:35] Adam Ant: so the ones that applied were already GMN posters
[17:35] Adam Ant: (knew od Adam Ant's stories, etc..)
[17:35] Adam Ant: be;lieved in the philosophy
[17:36] Atticus: and you knew them a little
[17:36] Atticus: had an idea of integrity.
[17:41] Adam Ant: no, I did not know mith or pixie
[17:41] Adam Ant: or old salty, etc...
[17:41] Adam Ant: but I did give an entrance exam
[17:42] Adam Ant: (seeing someone post on the boards != 'knowing')
[17:42] Atticus: right, just meant you had at least SOMETHING to base their personality off of
[17:42] Atticus: pixie and mith etc weren't prior members of GMN?
[17:43] Atticus: well, posters?
[17:43] Adam Ant: well, I don't think you should take anything meaningful away from that
[17:43] Adam Ant: only mith .. mith brought pixie over from seige
[17:43] Adam Ant: keep in mind
[17:44] Adam Ant: most developers came here because they believed in the design philosophy
[17:44] Atticus: right.
[17:44] Atticus: i'm actually designing everything first and getting information down before i start looking for devs.. just for that reason.
[17:45] Atticus: for the same reason (hopefully)
Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Tue Apr 08 17:40:04 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Tue Apr 08 17:40:20 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Apr 11 19:40:03 2008
[19:40] Atticus: just realised something..
[19:40] Atticus: i had a strongbox in the [new] tower for my crafter.. it held resources like ings, leather, boards, and cloth....
[19:40] Atticus: when i transfered the tower to you, the strongbox poofed
[20:16] Atticus: (Link: http://www.runuo.com/forums/announcements/89206-connectuo-com.html)http://www.runuo.com/forums/announcements/89206-connectuo-com.html
Session Close (Adam Ant): Fri Apr 11 20:57:15 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Fri Apr 11 22:59:30 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 00:05:32 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:31:40 2008
[12:31] Adam Ant: okay, I can recover that for you if it was important (it's a bit of a hassel)
[12:31] Atticus: that's alright.
[12:32] Atticus: she actually kicked me out of [new] last night anyways
[12:32] Atticus: i think i made a huge mistake with her... she seemed to be doing so well with the forums, then yesterday she seemed so retarded and power trippy
[12:34] Atticus: naturally i went nuts and swore i would make her experience on this shard a living hell... but i think i've calmed down since then :P
[12:34] Adam Ant: well, probably a good idea .. you've been quite bitter lately, first with me turning off the new player starting area, then with our ad campaign... we are all trying and you were poo'ing all over it.. When you couple that with the fact you've quit staff and decided to build your own shard, your ability to be nurturung and encouraging influance for New is questionable
[12:35] Atticus: wow
[12:35] Atticus: you're just like them!!
[12:35] Adam Ant: haha
[12:35] Adam Ant: :P
[12:35] Atticus: if it's not "yes, good idea!" then you're a negative nancy
[12:35] Adam Ant: I only know what I see
[12:35] Adam Ant: no, you went on and on saying it was "horrible"
[12:36] Atticus: what was horrible?
[12:36] Adam Ant: but remember,  I know you want your own shard ... 
[12:36] Adam Ant: the timing of the ad compaign
[12:36] Atticus: it is
[12:36] Adam Ant: is not!
[12:36] Atticus: is to!
[12:36] Atticus: think about what you're doing
[12:36] Adam Ant: *plugs earsd*
[12:37] Atticus: you're slowly sifting people into a shard that currently has nothing to offer but a couple sporadic events.
[12:37] Adam Ant: I wrote you no less than 4 replies .. and deleted all of them
[12:37] Atticus: yea, [new] will help that, but the 5 people running it aren't going to be enough
[12:38] Adam Ant: here is the fundamental difference between your and my thinking.....
[12:38] Atticus: aside from that there's no reason to not wait for something like this when there's something big on the way that will attract at least a *decent* amount of people from the current PRS community
[12:38] Atticus: and THATS all beside the point that offering that view isn't "negative"
[12:38] Atticus: "fuck this, this place is screwed advertising wont work at all ever" is negative
[12:39] Atticus: and if I was really just looking to crumple the competition... i would. I wouldn't sit and waste my time offering you guys input
[12:39] Adam Ant: You wish to wait till there is *something else*, something new, and something 'wow;, .. and I believe: We have built a very nice shard over the past 4 years and this shard IS what we have to offer. The shard we have today is the shard we have today, and the shard we have today is the shard we are advertising...
[12:39] Atticus: yea, you have... you have good code
[12:39] Adam Ant: Not some pie-in-the-sky other-thing, but (sing it along with me)
[12:39] Atticus: but this game doesn't work off good code, you have to have people
[12:39] Adam Ant: the shard we have today
[12:40] Atticus: HAVE to have people, and that next big string of code is nearly garanteed to bring you at very least an easily noticable increase in population
[12:40] Atticus: and that population is what's going to help you advertise the rest of the code.
[12:40] Atticus: without that interaction, and without that population, you look like a failed experiment to everyone you present yourself to.
[12:41] Atticus: Not saying all hope is lost to anyone... or being negative... i just see everyone getting all "coomby-ya" and over excited and blowing things.
[12:42] Atticus: "good idea to remove you from [new]"
[12:42] Atticus: ... fuck you man
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:43:09 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:43:28 2008
[12:43] Atticus: good luck with your yes men.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:43:36 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:45:21 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:46:02 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 12:48:35 2008
[13:10] Atticus: don't forget to unfriend me from the tower.... god know what i might do!
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 13:10:31 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 13:10:57 2008
[13:11] Atticus: oh, you already did.. thanks
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 13:11:04 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 18:03:20 2008
[18:03] Atticus: I really really hope that wasn't you that just banned me from the forums
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 18:03:47 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 18:20:44 2008
[18:20] Adam Ant: yes it was .. you broke our TOS in a big way .. that was totally uncaled for
[18:50] Atticus: what way is that?
[18:52] Atticus: if it helps, originally i edited out all my remarks about your incompentency, then recopied the logs once you slapped me too
[18:53] Atticus: you lose literally each and every staff member (read: volunteer trying to help you) from your horrible horrible decisions and just... disrespect and foolishness
[18:54] Atticus: i spent years helping you guys, and this is how i get treated because i said "this is a bad idea, there's only 20 people on the shard.."
[18:54] Atticus: "it's cool you're trying to help,.but yadda yadda" you get the point
[18:54] Atticus: "totally uncalled for" fuck you.
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 18:54:54 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 19:02:03 2008
[19:02] Atticus: I don't see why you would ban me, either... it's not like i don't have a couple thousand AI contacts
[19:02] Atticus: you sjust don't tink...
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sat Apr 12 19:02:28 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Apr 13 11:39:41 2008
Session Close (Adam Ant): Sun Apr 13 11:39:55 2008


Session Start (322234790:Adam Ant): Sun Apr 13 11:44:40 2008
[11:44] Atticus: perma banned my accounts too, eh?
[11:44] Atticus: man.... adam, you really are a piece of shit
[11:45] Atticus: I defended you a lot when everyone tried to tell me... stupid me.