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	<LordHydronium>	OK, this I just don't get: "Though the paragraph is sourced, the statement itself is not; it is OR due to no examples being described."
	<LordHydronium>	The source covers the statement.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	The statement is blatant OR.
	<LordHydronium>	It literally says that.
	<LordHydronium>	No, it's canon.
	<LordHydronium>	I'm directly paraphrasing from the book.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Paraphrasing, or quoting? There is a difference.
	<LordHydronium>	Paraphrasing. Quoting would be plagiarism.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Fine. The way you /paraphrase/ it makes it blatant OR.
	<LordHydronium>	How can it be OR when it's repeating what the source says?
	<LordHydronium>	Here, let me transcribe the source.
	<LordHydronium>	"During the Clone Wars, warship design technology improved in leaps and bounds as engineers on both sides sought desperately to create bigger, faster, more heavily-armed and armored vessels."
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Indeed. I stand by my statement.
	<LordHydronium>	I'm sorry, but your statement is incorrect.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Then cite examples.
	<LordHydronium>	It can't be original research if it's canon.
	<LordHydronium>	The source doesn't give any.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Cite examples from other canon sources.
	<LordHydronium>	Well, the Victory. Which I then talk about.
	<LordHydronium>	But your OR objection is simply...incorrect.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	And Venator. How about some CIS ships, then?
	<LordHydronium>	I don't know how else to put it.
	<LordHydronium>	We don't know those were created because of that philosophy.
	<LordHydronium>	Now you're asking me to add OR.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Not if you cite them properly, it isn't.
	<LordHydronium>	It is cited.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	No no, I mean if you cite the CIS examples.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	IIRC, much of the source material for Lira came out before Ep. III, right?
	<LordHydronium>	It's OR to say they're part of that philosophy.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	I'm not sure if it is or not. However, there's surely a way to phrase that statement so it isn't OR.
	<Jedi_Goodwood>	Perhaps cite the statement with a footnote that says that this is how it's stated in the canon source?
	<LordHydronium>	It's not OR. It can't be OR if it's not original.
	<LordHydronium>	That's what a footnote means.