<Zarin> Question: Anyone know if it's possible for a application running in Wine to interact with Dcop?
<man_in_shack> dcop being ...
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<Zarin> Linux's Inter-processes communication similar to Window's GDI
<Gentle> Zarin: technically yes, wine exports both unix and windows apis to the applications, but that would require the application to be compiled against winelib, I'm not sure if regular windows exes can do that
<Zarin> Hmm
<Gentle> man_in_shack: actually it's KDE specific
<man_in_shack> Gentle, that's what i thought
<man_in_shack> and since dcop is kde-specific, wine has no support for it
<man_in_shack> and is likely to never have support for it
<Gentle> man_in_shack: well, dbus is gnome but nowadays almost any linux apps aside from coreutils has support for it
<Zarin> Hmm
<man_in_shack> dbus may have been developed by gnome, but it's general-purpose
<man_in_shack> afaik, dcop is rather heavily integrated into kde
<Zarin> Just wondering since I know someone writting a Windows-only application but we are trying to make it work under Wine as well. It needs to be able to detect what media players are currently playing
<man_in_shack> Zarin, that sorta thing would be very difficult
<Gentle> man_in_shack: dcop is c++ while dbus is c, that's the main reason why dcop wasn't accepted as general purpose, C apps can't link against it
<Zarin> man_in_shack, Yeah
<Gentle> man_in_shack: as for kde4, dcop is a thin layer that uses dbus as backend, so yeah, dbus is now being used by all graphical systems
<man_in_shack> Zarin, you COULD use linux-only api calls to do it, i'm sure :)
<Gentle> in other words, Zarin might want to use dbus rather than dcop
<Zarin> What about a Linux app that sends signals to the Windows app?
<Zarin> Is doing that possible
<man_in_shack> ooh, that sounds just as messy
<Gentle> it is messy but possible
<Gentle> the windows equivalent to system() on wine can either call exe files or unix binaries
<Gentle> so you could call the dcop binar through system() on wine, but if you're developing that application anyway you can just as well compile it through winelib for linux
<Gentle> which gains you the possibility to use both windows and linux apis at the same time
<Zarin> So what do you mean by compiling against winelib?
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<Gentle> Zarin: you can take some windows sourcecode and compile it with winegcc, the result is a binary that onl runs on linux and requires an installed wine version but technically is a linux binary
<Zarin> The application is written in Delphi .NET I think
<Gentle> tough luck, there is no winefpc
<man_in_shack> wow, that's really horrible
<Gentle> Zarin: that advanced method which would give you all the possibilities you'll ever need is only available to C/C++ coders
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<Gentle> Zarin: note that Delphi .NET creates .NET binaries which WILL NOT run on wine
<Zarin> Runs fine for me though... With some work arounds
<Usurp> hi all
<Zarin> I think
<Gentle> Zarin: well, I have to clarify, if you don't set up anything it will create .NET binaries, you can make it compile regular windows binaries aswell if you tell it to do so
<Zarin> Ah, it's Delphi win32
<Zarin> Not .NET
<Usurp> could someone help with mailing list problems ?
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<Usurp> im getting this : Your membership in the mailing list wine-users has been disabled due
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<Gentle> Zarin: you could always try to compile it with fpc, fpc these days has support for most of delphi's api