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4/6/2008  8:45:38 PM  Akai Azul  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  And I'm off. 
4/6/2008  8:46:05 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Alright then, Grab-based techniques will have a Grab effect that waits a second and a half before the particular attack itself goes into effect 
4/6/2008  8:46:13 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Will this apply to the Knight skills as well? 
4/6/2008  8:46:20 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Some of those also involve Grab 
4/6/2008  8:46:22 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Sure. 
4/6/2008  8:46:28 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Yep. 
4/6/2008  8:46:42 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Sin? 
4/6/2008  8:48:05 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Are all knight skills going to be like the FFT ones (minus equipment breaking) or are some old skills going into that job as well? 
4/6/2008  8:48:18 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  http://h1.ripway.com/Garet%20Archanus/JobMapH.html 
4/6/2008  8:48:29 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Like what? I remember dropping a number of old skills into their lineup 
4/6/2008  8:48:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  By the way, Garet, MyWOT rates your website as dangerous. 
4/6/2008  8:48:43 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It probably is 
4/6/2008  8:49:26 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  First thing I'll say is the skill lists need to be trimmed down a little. I never got to any jobs past the first four. 
4/6/2008  8:50:57 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Alright, I say yes after reading over it 
4/6/2008  8:51:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh, and uh, Garet, the skill you were looking for in Knight isn't Swift Strike. 
4/6/2008  8:51:08 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It's Rapid Strike. Swift Strike is the knife one. 
4/6/2008  8:51:27 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I see. 
4/6/2008  8:51:40 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Rapid Strike allows for any weapon, but shaves off HP with every use. Swift Strike is knives only. 
4/6/2008  8:52:24 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I also want to mention that I think they shouldn't have Pray. 
4/6/2008  8:52:39 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I think they should. 
4/6/2008  8:52:48 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It's redundant, Priest gives Pray to every class as it is. 
4/6/2008  8:52:50 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Okay, you need to give a reason if you're going to state something like that 
4/6/2008  8:52:57 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Also: Pray is more of a Paladin thing, not a Knight thing. 
4/6/2008  8:53:04 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Knight turns into Paladin. 
4/6/2008  8:53:12 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  So he'll learn Pray when he takes Paladin. 
4/6/2008  8:53:24 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Shouldn't Fighter get Pray then as well? 
4/6/2008  8:53:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Knight is a Job now. <.=.> 
4/6/2008  8:53:34 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'm sure the most common Paladin will be fighter classes. 
4/6/2008  8:53:38 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Paladin doesn't learn Pray 
4/6/2008  8:53:41 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Priest does. 
4/6/2008  8:53:42 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Ah. 
4/6/2008  8:53:45 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It carries over 
4/6/2008  8:53:53 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And Fighter does learn Pray from Priest, so Knight is redundant. 
4/6/2008  8:53:58 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  That is, Knight having it. 
4/6/2008  8:54:08 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  What if a Fighter doesn't take Priest? 
4/6/2008  8:54:14 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Tell me a Knight who doesn't pray when they're about to die, and I'll give you a Berserker 
4/6/2008  8:54:21 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Then they have to wait until they take Paladin. 
4/6/2008  8:54:52 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Priest Paladins would have Pray before they become Paladins but not Knight Paladins? 
4/6/2008  8:55:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yep. 
4/6/2008  8:55:13 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It brings us back to 'Paladins can't learn Pray, but it carries over from being a Priest' 
4/6/2008  8:55:20 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  What's wrong with Knight's having Pray anyway? The HoT is really low. 
4/6/2008  8:55:21 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Priest/Knight is a prototype Paladin you know. 
4/6/2008  8:55:29 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yes, I know 
4/6/2008  8:55:30 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Waste of a skill slot. Remember Gaku's rule? 
4/6/2008  8:55:39 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  "No more than 15 per job per class." 
4/6/2008  8:55:44 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Yeah. 
4/6/2008  8:55:47 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And? 
4/6/2008  8:56:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Tell me of one Fighter that'll become a Paladin that isn't going to go Priest/Knight. 
4/6/2008  8:56:19 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Those that are going to be Paladin/Ninja 
4/6/2008  8:56:34 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Guylock? 
4/6/2008  8:56:37 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  If he play lol. 
4/6/2008  8:56:39 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  plays* 
4/6/2008  8:56:59 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  ...Why would someone be Paladin Ni--Ooooh, I see what you did there. Cute FFTA reference. 
4/6/2008  8:58:01 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Also might I mention that Pray is going to essentially be a waste of time for a Knight unless they plan on sitting in town. As a tank, it'd be better for them to just spam Defend or Parry in battle. 
4/6/2008  8:58:18 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Pray isn't meant to be an in-battle thing. 
4/6/2008  8:58:20 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Pray might come in handy though when a party wants their thirst system to go down 
4/6/2008  8:58:31 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And the Priest isn't anybody in their party 
4/6/2008  8:59:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I still don't see any good reason for Knight to actually have Pray. It's not like ALL Knights are going to go Paladin. 
4/6/2008  8:59:17 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I know they're not. 
4/6/2008  8:59:30 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And not all Knight/Class combinations get it after all 
4/6/2008  8:59:47 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  BB and RM. 
4/6/2008  9:00:06 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Okay, whatever. 
4/6/2008  9:00:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  The classes with low health, last I check 
4/6/2008  9:00:14 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Alright, vote... 
4/6/2008  9:00:15 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  So with the job system, it's smarter to try and master two different jobs with your two free job slots since they can be built on? 
4/6/2008  9:00:17 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It's the easiest way 
4/6/2008  9:00:28 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Should Knights get Pray 
4/6/2008  9:00:39 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  They can't be built on, some have abilities that they share with other jobs, thusly letting you carry them over. 
4/6/2008  9:01:13 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'm just wondering if it'll be worth it to be a Knight/Priest to become a Paladin when it could also be possible to be a Paladin/Ninja anyways. 
4/6/2008  9:01:22 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Some of the more advanced jobs will require that you have the abilities beforehand to get their full potential, due to not giving out said abilities. 
4/6/2008  9:01:30 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Think of it this way. 
4/6/2008  9:01:40 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Sinsie, Knight can go into other things besides Paladin, and same for Priest. 
4/6/2008  9:01:46 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  You go Knight/Priest to get all the abilities you want, you switch one to Paladin, suddenly you have a head start. 
4/6/2008  9:01:48 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  So it's not completely pointless to be a Knight/Priest. 
4/6/2008  9:02:08 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Then you can switch the other to another job to avoid losing much. 
4/6/2008  9:02:18 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Got it. 
4/6/2008  9:02:40 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And he got all this off of Pray... 
4/6/2008  9:02:42 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  >.> 
4/6/2008  9:02:53 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  No, I see what you meant now. 
4/6/2008  9:03:03 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or rather, I see no reason to let Knight have it even if it's kind of redundant. 
4/6/2008  9:03:30 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Pardon me for seeing the use in redundancies. As long as they're mild, they can allow a broader system 
4/6/2008  9:03:50 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  True, I just doubt Pray's overall usefulness even at higher levels. 
4/6/2008  9:04:05 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Does Pray restore on a percentage or by points? 
4/6/2008  9:04:05 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  We all do, Garr. That's why it's in a Newbie Island job 
4/6/2008  9:04:13 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  By points, IIRC. 
4/6/2008  9:04:23 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Points? Always thought it was percentile 
4/6/2008  9:04:41 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Nope, it's pretty ridiculously slow point-regen, IIRC. 
4/6/2008  9:05:16 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Might I propose something somewhat funny? 
4/6/2008  9:05:20 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Feel free 
4/6/2008  9:05:22 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Huh? 
4/6/2008  9:05:45 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Make the requirement for a Knight's Pray be 5 or more deaths on your death counter. 
4/6/2008  9:05:57 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  :v: 
4/6/2008  9:06:02 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  So you pray you don't die again? lol 
4/6/2008  9:06:04 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yep. 
4/6/2008  9:06:09 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It works, doesn't it?> 
4/6/2008  9:06:25 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  We don't need to wrap everything around battle, or per chance 
4/6/2008  9:06:28 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I guess I'm never going to get pray :( 
4/6/2008  9:06:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Be a Priest. 
4/6/2008  9:06:34 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Just don't do that with any job Niv will want to take. 
4/6/2008  9:06:36 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Exo, you die every other second 
4/6/2008  9:06:37 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  They get it by default! 
4/6/2008  9:06:37 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  :-P 
4/6/2008  9:06:46 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  That's a lie!! 
4/6/2008  9:06:49 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  *chuckles* 
4/6/2008  9:06:54 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh come on, Exo. 
4/6/2008  9:07:03 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I swear, you were writing a prayer in Morse Code with how long you went between deaths 
4/6/2008  9:07:04 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I used to get spammed with "Exophus has died at the hands of Frost Dragon!". 
4/6/2008  9:07:32 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  It's more like every other TWO seconds 
4/6/2008  9:07:33 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Get it right 
4/6/2008  9:07:43 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh and Great Cleave seems like more of an advanced ability. 
4/6/2008  9:08:05 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  What advanced job would get it though? 
4/6/2008  9:08:27 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai. Champion. Etc. 
4/6/2008  9:08:39 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Great Cleave could just require a high prof if it doesn't fit in well with anything else. 
4/6/2008  9:08:39 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Are those going to be jobs? O_o 
4/6/2008  9:08:43 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  No and no 
4/6/2008  9:08:52 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai is going to be if I have my way. >:E 
4/6/2008  9:08:54 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I can sorta see how it's advanced and how it's not so awesome depending on the player. 
4/6/2008  9:09:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Great Cleave is pretty worthless until you're strong enough to one-shot things reliably. 
4/6/2008  9:09:17 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It's bad enough that Ninjas are part of the Final Fantasy realm. We don't need to be adding Samurai in 
4/6/2008  9:09:20 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I don't see a problem with it being in because of what Garral just said. 
4/6/2008  9:09:22 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  When all they were were Eastern Knights 
4/6/2008  9:09:30 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai were more offensive than Knights. 
4/6/2008  9:09:47 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai would probably have less defense as well. Don't know how you code that in though. 
4/6/2008  9:09:53 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  People are going to wear what they want. 
4/6/2008  9:10:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Knights were the equipment-based defenders. Samurai were the equipment-based offenders. 
4/6/2008  9:10:05 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I guess making them able to avoid attacks works 
4/6/2008  9:10:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Okay, okay...I'm out-voted here. 
4/6/2008  9:10:14 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL 
4/6/2008  9:10:16 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA 
4/6/2008  9:10:16 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'll work on ANOTHER class I didn't want in 
4/6/2008  9:10:17 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Anyway. 
4/6/2008  9:10:20 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  p.o 
4/6/2008  9:10:30 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  You're working on cat mage, right? 
4/6/2008  9:10:30 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Anyways... 
4/6/2008  9:10:33 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Garet, what are the next 10 jobs again? I forget. 
4/6/2008  9:10:35 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Garet if you have such a problem with it, I could work on it. 
4/6/2008  9:10:43 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  You don't have to be the only guy making jobs. :v: 
4/6/2008  9:10:46 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  No no, I have to insist, Garr 
4/6/2008  9:10:49 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Anyways 
4/6/2008  9:10:51 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  NO BITCH IT WAS MY IDEA >:E 
4/6/2008  9:10:52 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  You brought up something else 
4/6/2008  9:10:55 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  *shot down* 
4/6/2008  9:11:07 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Garr, shut the fuck up, sit your fat ass down, and let me talk 
4/6/2008  9:11:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I still reserve rights to making Scholar. 
4/6/2008  9:11:13 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Already planned in my system 
4/6/2008  9:11:13 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  owned 
4/6/2008  9:11:17 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And written up in my notes 
4/6/2008  9:11:20 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  He's made, Garral 
4/6/2008  9:11:24 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Just need to table it. 
4/6/2008  9:11:31 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  N E WAYS! 
4/6/2008  9:11:35 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Omigosh, Scholar could be the answer to those that want to be politicans and the like in-game 
4/6/2008  9:11:38 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Changing the battle system 
4/6/2008  9:12:04 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Melee and skills requiring Stamina, Magical involving Mana. This way, all classes keep the bars, Stamina regenerates faster, and makes a little more damn sense than before 
4/6/2008  9:12:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Opinions? 
4/6/2008  9:12:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Actually let's see that prospective ability list of yours for Knight, Brawler, Druid, and Rogue. 
4/6/2008  9:12:18 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Wrong computer for that, Garral 
4/6/2008  9:12:29 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And you didn't upload it ASAP like I did? Fail. 
4/6/2008  9:12:30 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Because nobody was here yesterday when I was on the proper one 
4/6/2008  9:12:37 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Garral, shut up now. 
4/6/2008  9:12:47 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  So rude. 
4/6/2008  9:12:57 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Digressing 
4/6/2008  9:13:05 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Opinions on the proposed changes to the battle system 
4/6/2008  9:13:18 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I actually don't see anything wrong with it. 
4/6/2008  9:13:23 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Same. 
4/6/2008  9:13:35 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I like it. The only thing would be that the abilities would have to be adjusted right to the new bars 
4/6/2008  9:13:35 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If we lock melee and skills to Stamina, it'll encourage some of the melee classes, like Ninjas, like Rogues and the like, to wear light gear as they were meant to 
4/6/2008  9:13:42 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If your attack has any magic involved, it'll USE magic 
4/6/2008  9:13:49 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Actually they're already encouraged to. 
4/6/2008  9:13:50 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Of course 
4/6/2008  9:13:59 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Because Light armor raises Dexterity now. 
4/6/2008  9:14:02 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Encouraged, but I was made into a Black Mage wearing platemale 
4/6/2008  9:14:04 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  *mail 
4/6/2008  9:14:15 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Which raises your abysmal dual-wielding accuracy. 
4/6/2008  9:14:16 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I've seen Ninja wearing worse... 
4/6/2008  9:14:28 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Cool 
4/6/2008  9:14:37 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Stealth only raises Agility now. 
4/6/2008  9:14:39 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Okay, Revamp of battle system agreed. 
4/6/2008  9:14:41 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yeah, I got close to wearing silver armor before. A way to make sure smart armor choices are made would be nice. 
4/6/2008  9:14:44 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  huh? 
4/6/2008  9:14:47 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It doesn't cloak them? 
4/6/2008  9:14:54 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Stealth armor, doofus. 
4/6/2008  9:14:57 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Ah 
4/6/2008  9:15:01 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Well, then put Armor next to it 
4/6/2008  9:15:14 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I don't know all the gear in the damn game. I only ever traveled in my starting pajamas. 
4/6/2008  9:15:21 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  A good mage doesn't need better. 
4/6/2008  9:15:30 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  You'd be surprised. 
4/6/2008  9:15:45 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I was working on wearing Titanium this hosting before I quit yesterday. :x 
4/6/2008  9:15:49 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If you're getting hit, you're standing in the wrong place. 
4/6/2008  9:15:57 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  :-P 
4/6/2008  9:16:17 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Anyway Brawler definitely needs a special attack. (You are all going to kill me for this joke, too.) 
4/6/2008  9:16:21 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  [Messenger Plus! Sound] - Data{3C203642E1A3} - FalconPunch   
4/6/2008  9:16:28 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  That's called Iron Fist 
4/6/2008  9:16:34 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  No it's not. >:E 
4/6/2008  9:16:38 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Iron Punch now 
4/6/2008  9:16:40 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Burning Finger 
4/6/2008  9:16:40 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It doesn't make solar systems explode. 
4/6/2008  9:16:45 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Only in the anime 
4/6/2008  9:16:48 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  anyways 
4/6/2008  9:16:56 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Brawlers have a series of potent moves, Garr 
4/6/2008  9:17:01 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Why give them something stronger? 
4/6/2008  9:17:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I know, I was being funny. 
4/6/2008  9:17:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Pratfall 
4/6/2008  9:17:09 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Yeah, Brawlers fine now. 
4/6/2008  9:17:46 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It would be funny to have a move with such ridiculous lag before hitting that it would do massive damage if the opponent didn't move. 
4/6/2008  9:17:56 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh right, wasn't I supposed to explain why I think Fighter shouldn't get Rogue? 
4/6/2008  9:18:34 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I don't see a problem with that 
4/6/2008  9:18:36 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Bandit-ish 
4/6/2008  9:18:46 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Thugs 
4/6/2008  9:18:52 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  You need to check up on the definition of 'Rogue' 
4/6/2008  9:18:56 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I think my idea originated around the fac tthey have shitty Agility. 
4/6/2008  9:18:57 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Not DnD's Rogue 
4/6/2008  9:19:34 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  So then Fighter-Rogues should specialize in messing with the opponent's status and stats and overall fighting dirty? 
4/6/2008  9:19:45 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  General idea, yeah 
4/6/2008  9:19:55 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If they're giving up something else for it. 
4/6/2008  9:19:57 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Like I said, I try to focus on archetypes usually. 
4/6/2008  9:20:06 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I focus more on ideals. 
4/6/2008  9:20:18 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Hosing people off with the Archetypical hose doesn't make anybody happy 
4/6/2008  9:20:31 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Garr says: When thinking about the character classes, it may be best to think in terms of archetypes(blaster, healer, support, etc), instead of personality(pious medic, destructive bastard, chivalrous defender). Personality is up to the players.  
4/6/2008  9:20:39 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'm just copypasting what I said earlier. 
4/6/2008  9:20:57 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  *gives him an 'I can use the ALT+V keys' medal* 
4/6/2008  9:21:10 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Jesus christ did my assholery rub off on you or something? 
4/6/2008  9:21:17 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Nope 
4/6/2008  9:21:18 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  That's how I was thinking about this 
4/6/2008  9:21:24 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  You're awakening the asshole I left behind with Zoids/Revo 
4/6/2008  9:21:41 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Anyways, your thoughts, Sin? 
4/6/2008  9:22:18 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  The way I see a Rouge Fighter is that with all the other jobs available to a Fighter, if one Fighter decides to pick Rogue as a job he misses out on other jobs that would greatly improve his fighting capability 
4/6/2008  9:22:44 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I agree 
4/6/2008  9:22:46 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Plus if Fighters don't have the proper stats to be a rogue it could turn out to be a bad decision and not imbalance anything. 
4/6/2008  9:22:58 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  However the Rogue job could be chosen simply to improve on it later, or whatever. 
4/6/2008  9:23:07 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Hmm... 
4/6/2008  9:23:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or... 
4/6/2008  9:23:22 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  As Thief-Rogue leads to better Ninja, why not Fighter-Rogue lead to better Samurai... 
4/6/2008  9:23:26 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If we are going to have it in anyways 
4/6/2008  9:23:41 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai are all about honor and fighting cleverly, accurately, and fairly, though. 
4/6/2008  9:23:49 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  In fact...Fighter Rogue/Knight would make a great Samurai 
4/6/2008  9:24:00 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Some Samurai, yes 
4/6/2008  9:24:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Rogue seems more of a kick-dirt-in-your-eyes-then-stab-you-in-the-kidney kind of Fighter. 
4/6/2008  9:24:19 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It all comes down to what honor code you abide by 
4/6/2008  9:24:50 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Rogue could simply mean in FFO "clever, stealthy, agile, accurate" 
4/6/2008  9:24:57 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  yep. 
4/6/2008  9:25:08 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Fits with Samurai being clever and accurate with a katana. Plus they don't want to get hit. 
4/6/2008  9:25:14 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Samurai seems more likely to come from something like Brawler in my eyes. 
4/6/2008  9:25:18 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Light armor and what-not 
4/6/2008  9:25:27 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Wait do Samurai wear light armor? xP 
4/6/2008  9:25:29 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Rogues have light armor as well 
4/6/2008  9:25:36 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai armor is Light. 
4/6/2008  9:25:41 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Rogues would be stealth. 
4/6/2008  9:25:46 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And besides that, a Samurai's style of plate makes it stronger, and lighter than western plate 
4/6/2008  9:26:31 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  The downside is that Samurai typically wore plate that was little more than leather sewn together with metal, and heavier weapons, or piercing weapons totally wrecked it. 
4/6/2008  9:26:42 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Okay, the thing though is that the Rogue's skills definitely don't fit well with a Samurai 
4/6/2008  9:26:58 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Samurai seems like something to come from, say, Brawler/Knight. 
4/6/2008  9:27:16 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Even if Knight covers most of a Samurai's bases by itself 
4/6/2008  9:27:25 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Brawler covers the other bases. :v: 
4/6/2008  9:27:29 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  High speed blades, grabbing to manipulate the foe, key aim 
4/6/2008  9:27:40 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Like getting kicked in the nuts, throwing people at people's nuts... 
4/6/2008  9:28:10 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Brawler works well and so does Knight, since Knights are one of the first jobs being chosen instead of one of the last. 
4/6/2008  9:28:37 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  *Exophus uses Grab on Garral! Exophus uses Throw on Gakumerasara! Garral has nailed Gakumerasara in the nuts! Critical Hit!* Gaku has died at the hands of spiked helmet 
4/6/2008  9:28:57 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Now that's silly. 
4/6/2008  9:29:08 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  A portent of the future. 
4/6/2008  9:29:15 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  I just owned Gaku 
4/6/2008  9:29:26 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I actually don't plan on doing all too much direct fighting next version, but we'll see how it plans out. 
4/6/2008  9:29:36 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Might I share the thoughts I keep in mind when trying to work on a job? 
4/6/2008  9:29:45 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'm all eyes 
4/6/2008  9:29:48 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Feel free. I probably already do 
4/6/2008  9:31:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  A player is going to pick a Job because they want to try it, and in the end, they'll stick with one that complements their playstyle. When thinking over a Class-Job combo, I contemplate the reasons the player may want to choose that Job for. "I want to wear heavy armor, but still shoot people with destructive magic while stabbing them with swords", is the thought pattern behind Fighter-Warlock, for example. 
4/6/2008  9:31:43 PM  Na'Gurel  Sinsie, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  (Keep going guys, I'm going to vanish on my work-break. Let me know what all I miss, if it gets along too far) 
4/6/2008  9:32:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Seeing as they are more of a melee class, though, I focused on all of their magic being a complement to their abilities: Self-buffs. 
4/6/2008  9:32:45 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Black Mage-Priest? Holy Smitey McSmitesmite. 
4/6/2008  9:32:57 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Speaking of Fighter-Warlock, are they supposed to be able to get Lock 2 now? 
4/6/2008  9:33:08 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  White Mage-Warlock? Offensive buffs instead of defensive ones. 
4/6/2008  9:33:13 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Uh, I don't think so. 
4/6/2008  9:33:22 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Because the profs had to be fixxed remember? 
4/6/2008  9:33:26 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  And in the test I couldn't get Fast 
4/6/2008  9:33:33 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Because I couldn't get Lock 2 
4/6/2008  9:33:37 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Sounds good. Even if the combination wouldn't be a smart one, still give them abilities that suit them anyhow. 
4/6/2008  9:33:40 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh, right, I think Garet handled the fixings. 
4/6/2008  9:33:45 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Let people play what they want and be able to enjoy it 
4/6/2008  9:33:46 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Exactly, Sinsie! 
4/6/2008  9:34:11 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  That's sort of why I disagree with limiting Red Mage from anything. Someone picks Red Mage because they don't want any glaring weaknesses, and can live without specializing. 
4/6/2008  9:34:39 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  With the first four jobs though, RMs got close to, if not, 15 skills for each one. 
4/6/2008  9:34:55 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yeah, I'm not going to cry over RM not getting Brawler. 
4/6/2008  9:35:05 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I have to say I myself was hard-pressed to think up what they'd get for it. 
4/6/2008  9:35:43 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Red mages get the most job choices, right? 
4/6/2008  9:35:47 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  That's the idea. 
4/6/2008  9:36:05 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  At the expense of being very limited in how far into each job they can go. 
4/6/2008  9:36:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  They sort of blow their load all at once. 
4/6/2008  9:37:19 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Well, a red mage was always eh at melee but it was still an option and focused more on balancing magic, so I think it having access to most of the magic jobs sounds good. The melee jobs would still be there but not as much. I'm thinking just like most of the super specialized melee jobs would be unobtainable or something similar to that. 
4/6/2008  9:38:03 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  I was actually going to push for them being limited from all of the specialized jobs. Stuff like... Bishop for example. 
4/6/2008  9:38:37 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  That sounds good. 
4/6/2008  9:38:47 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  So in other words, they'd be limited in the advanced classes? 
4/6/2008  9:38:49 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Since Bishop is like OMFG SUPER HOLY HEALERBOY 
4/6/2008  9:38:59 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Bishop and me are tight yo 
4/6/2008  9:39:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yeah. Think every other FF here. 
4/6/2008  9:39:28 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Off-topic, but Sinsie, did you beat KOTOR 2 or whichever one I talked to you about? 
4/6/2008  9:39:32 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Red Mage never really gets past Tier 2 in spells, but gets access to a huge wide range of spells, mostly supportive stuff. 
4/6/2008  9:39:34 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yeah. Both sides. 
4/6/2008  9:39:37 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Dark side was so cheap. 
4/6/2008  9:39:50 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Nice. Did you hear about this possible KOTOR 3 or KOTOR MMORPG? 
4/6/2008  9:40:03 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Well since Tier 1 and Tier 2 do the same damage not getting tier 3's won't be that cruel 
4/6/2008  9:40:23 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  As long as it's like the other KOTOR games without 2's sucky ending I'm excited. 
4/6/2008  9:40:27 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Tier 3 still boosts Tier 1/2. 
4/6/2008  9:40:34 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh right. 
4/6/2008  9:40:39 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I remember Spenny freaking out about that. 
4/6/2008  9:40:40 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Also massive-ass range. 
4/6/2008  9:40:58 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Gaku did take off the extra exp needed to prof spells, but that only makes sense with the job system now. 
4/6/2008  9:41:08 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Tier 3's have longer ranges? 
4/6/2008  9:41:17 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  5x5 meng 
4/6/2008  9:41:33 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh I thought you meant like casting distance. 
4/6/2008  9:41:38 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Like how far away from the caster 
4/6/2008  9:42:00 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Oh and I still need to tell Gaku. 
4/6/2008  9:42:02 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Shoving tier 3's far away into a domain would suck like nothing else. 
4/6/2008  9:42:14 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Red Mage is supposed to have to choose between Fire and Ice for Warlock. 
4/6/2008  9:42:32 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And they're supposed to have to choose between Healing Touch and Shining Finger. 
4/6/2008  9:43:20 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  You know. I know this sounds like extremely silly and would probably never make it past Gaku. 
4/6/2008  9:43:50 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  But someone should make an .mp3 of the Falcon Densetsu song, and give Monk an extremely hard-to-get skill called Falcon Punch. 3x3 fire damage on a target, as well as Iron Fist's effect. 
4/6/2008  9:43:59 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And whenever someone uses it, the Falcon Densetsu song plays over the server. 
4/6/2008  9:44:10 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  :v: 
4/6/2008  9:44:35 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo 
4/6/2008  9:44:38 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If it kills someone off scream the server should announce in red "GAME!" 
4/6/2008  9:44:39 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  That'd be awesome. 
4/6/2008  9:44:43 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  **screen 
4/6/2008  9:44:59 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  So then Newbies would be all like "What the hell is the Falcon Punch music playing for" 
4/6/2008  9:45:13 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And the Guides could go "Someone just got Falcon Punch'D" over NSay. 
4/6/2008  9:46:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or. 
4/6/2008  9:46:34 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or. 
4/6/2008  9:46:39 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or? 
4/6/2008  9:46:48 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Give Warlock a spell that you get at like, Character Level 80 or something 
4/6/2008  9:47:10 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  That kills everyone in the world. Including the caster. And plays REM's "It's the End of the World As We Know It" when casted. 
4/6/2008  9:47:22 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  If you put that in I WILL get it. 
4/6/2008  9:47:23 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Just saying 
4/6/2008  9:47:35 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I will enter FFO God Tier and obtain it just because it is there. 
4/6/2008  9:47:40 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  And it better destroy all domains too 
4/6/2008  9:47:53 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It costs 10,000 MP 
4/6/2008  9:47:58 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  what a jiff 
4/6/2008  9:48:05 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And has a fifteen minute casting time. 
4/6/2008  9:48:16 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  It'd have to show a gigantic animation that happens server-wide though :P 
4/6/2008  9:48:18 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I'll hide in New Banian forest 
4/6/2008  9:48:24 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Send an army of newbies after me. Idc 
4/6/2008  9:48:36 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  they'll burn down the forest duh 
4/6/2008  9:48:38 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  But it plays the song before everyone dies. 
4/6/2008  9:48:41 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  . . . 
4/6/2008  9:48:43 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It starts with a hurricane (8) 
4/6/2008  9:48:44 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  GRRRRRRRR forest fires! 
4/6/2008  9:48:54 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Er. 
4/6/2008  9:48:57 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Earthquake. 
4/6/2008  9:49:05 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  The world will start to shake. :awsm: 
4/6/2008  9:49:11 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Then Air 2 animations all over the place. 
4/6/2008  9:49:18 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Fire 3 animations everywhere. 
4/6/2008  9:49:33 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Remember when those doors spawned outside Giant's Helm and damaged whoever got neart hem? 
4/6/2008  9:49:36 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  **them 
4/6/2008  9:49:41 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  And as soon as the song ends everyone dies. 
4/6/2008  9:49:43 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  That could be X-Zone. 
4/6/2008  9:49:48 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Ahahahaha. 
4/6/2008  9:49:56 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Make one in the middle of New Banian and leave. 
4/6/2008  9:50:04 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Actually I had some crazy ideas for X-Zone. 
4/6/2008  9:50:05 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Let every wanderer walk near it to inspect 
4/6/2008  9:50:12 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Can you say...Sending somebody to the Cleft of Dimension? 
4/6/2008  9:50:31 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  A separate map made up of random FFO locations. 
4/6/2008  9:50:34 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  That boss fight scared me. 
4/6/2008  9:50:45 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I thought my guys would be killed for real 
4/6/2008  9:51:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  But yeah, what do you think of that? :awsm: 
4/6/2008  9:51:10 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Has there been any discussion of teleportation and/or dimension spells? 
4/6/2008  9:51:26 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr, Akai Azul  Time Mage? 
4/6/2008  9:51:27 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  It'd be hard to balance unless it was like a final job move. 
4/6/2008  9:51:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It'd just send someone to the Cleft. 
4/6/2008  9:51:36 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Not kill them or anything. 
4/6/2008  9:51:46 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Be annoying though in wars. Warp away the toughest guy 
4/6/2008  9:51:49 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Yep. 
4/6/2008  9:51:50 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or most important 
4/6/2008  9:52:02 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  It'd be hilarious to warp someone there. 
4/6/2008  9:52:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Then warp a Frost Dragon after them. 
4/6/2008  9:52:15 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  I was about to say 
4/6/2008  9:52:19 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  "OH GAWD" 
4/6/2008  9:52:26 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  To escape they have to defeat a monster they find int here 
4/6/2008  9:52:28 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Or die to it 
4/6/2008  9:52:30 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus, Akai Azul  Either one. 
4/6/2008  9:52:37 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus, Akai Azul  Actually I was just thinking hidden teleporters. 
4/6/2008  9:52:37 PM      Akai Azul has left the conversation. 
4/6/2008  9:52:42 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  No wait 
4/6/2008  9:52:46 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Warp people into the Cube 
4/6/2008  9:52:46 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  One in each "zone" that leads to the FFO location it mirrors. 
4/6/2008  9:53:09 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  So if you got REALLY good with it. 
4/6/2008  9:53:12 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  You could use it to travel. 
4/6/2008  9:53:35 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Admit it. 
4/6/2008  9:53:38 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  You think that's awesome. 
4/6/2008  9:54:08 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  It would be. Especially if more than one mage figured it out. Imagine rival mages fighting in-between the dimensions 
4/6/2008  9:54:51 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Also this convo made me think of an idea similar to Recall in Elder Scrolls. What if Warp or Teleport worked so that it's first cast in a spot you want to warp to, and then later on if you spend some time casting the spell it warps you to that location? 
4/6/2008  9:54:58 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  The map would have to be really disturbing too. Like, everything in greyscale with frozen NPCs or something. 
4/6/2008  9:55:44 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  And this is the song that would play: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shuIMPo5UzY 
4/6/2008  9:55:53 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  "#d233adjkl@#$%ks? !@!#!!!" 
4/6/2008  9:57:04 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Maybe have lovecraftian horrors lurking between the dimensions. 
4/6/2008  9:57:24 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Those wizard guys could be RP-explained to have come from those dimensions 
4/6/2008  9:57:30 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  The tentacle head freaks 
4/6/2008  9:59:05 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Just wondering, what was discussed about before when you guys were talking about the druid? 
4/6/2008  9:59:29 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Something about Dryads. 
4/6/2008  9:59:36 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Just the white mage form? 
4/6/2008  9:59:49 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  And gosh his eyes are freaky in this youtube video 
4/6/2008  9:59:54 PM  Exophus  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Garr  And Bear form 
4/6/2008  10:00:04 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Oh boy 
4/6/2008  10:00:13 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  "and angels cry and hang their heads in shame" 
4/6/2008  10:00:19 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  This song is getting creepier 
4/6/2008  10:00:28 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Creepier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P_BvrtuxAI 
4/6/2008  10:01:22 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Ronald McDonald!!! 
4/6/2008  10:01:30 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  D: 
4/6/2008  10:01:36 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  GIYGAS 
4/6/2008  10:01:40 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Where's my coathanger!?! 
4/6/2008  10:01:50 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  That theory is such bullshit 
4/6/2008  10:03:01 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  I think this meeting's more or less over. 
4/6/2008  10:03:10 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Nothing else to talk about? 
4/6/2008  10:03:23 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Yeah. 
4/6/2008  10:03:33 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Because smartboy forgot to upload his prospective lists. 
4/6/2008  10:04:50 PM  Sinsie  Na'Gurel, Garr, Exophus  Ok then. Thanks for showing up everyone. Don't forget that tomorrow night is our inspection from headquarters so make sure to clean up after yourselves and pick up any trash you see. 
4/6/2008  10:05:07 PM  Garr  Sinsie, Na'Gurel, Exophus  Yep.