[12:20] <ts> yep, someone(tm) would have to come up with a plugin for that
[12:20] <ts> and plugins can crash the server
[12:21] <catay> ts didn't you implement server side pause in trunk ?
[12:22] <ts> catay: Yes, I did kind of
[12:22] <ts> catay: Could have been better done but I didn't had the time for it
[12:22] <catay> so , you can freeze all players at any time ?
[12:23] <ts> catay: ah, you mean that kind of pause..that is something I didn't do
[12:23] <ts> catay: I implemented a timer that checks that player doesn't pause too soon.
[12:24] <catay> ah, i see
[12:25] <whodaman-> catay, ts, we want the unregistered people/ people not in the gu.league usergroup, to be able to only talk in teamchat
[12:25] <catay> Would be cool tho if the server could pause all players :)
[12:25] <whodaman-> BUt they shouldn't be able to spawn
[12:25] <ts> whodaman-: I know (and I think it's a stupid idea)
[12:25] <whodaman-> people in the gu.league group can spawn/talk eveywhere
[12:25] <whodaman-> ts, why's that?
[12:26] <whodaman-> it'd be quite practical.
[12:26] <ts> whodaman-: It can crash the server and it'll be the same questions over and over again. I prefer a good servermessage explaining. If people can't read, why should I waste my time for them?
[12:27] <catay> a good plugin rarely crashes the server
[12:27] <whodaman-> Exactly
[12:27] <catay> I never had any crashes with my plugins when they are well tested
[12:27] <whodaman-> If all plugins would crash the server, nobody would use plugins :)
[12:28] <catay> the 1vs1 plugin at 1vs1 league never caused any issues
[12:28] <Manu> catay: never? ;)
[12:28] <catay> and it's used for quite some time now :)
[12:28] <whodaman-> ts, what if a newb joins, and misses the server message? You expect him to do shift+F3 ?
[12:28] <ts> catay: The point is that they can crash. That particular kind of plugin suggest just doesn't offer much profit on the other side.
[12:28] <catay> Manu: not that I recall :)
[12:28] <whodaman-> Direct communication has always been better than leaving some short directions
[12:29] <catay> ts: the server without plugins can crash too :)
[12:29] <Manu> catay: true, but not due a plugin ;)
[12:29] <ts> catay: Hehe, yes but less high chance
[12:29] <whodaman-> ts, Of course it does, you can have them talk in observer, ask questions, without disturbing the game.
[12:29] <whodaman-> If you're not in the mood to waste you're time, don't.
[12:30] <ts> What kind of questions could they have?
[12:31] <whodaman-> "y can't I spawn on dis server"
[12:31] <ts> 1st: How can I play
[12:31] <whodaman-> "how can I register"
[12:31] <whodaman-> "whats guleague?"
[12:31] <ts> That's in the servermessage
[12:31] <whodaman-> Not really
[12:31] <whodaman-> and even so, what if you don't know what the servermessage is for, and you miss it?
[12:31] <catay> well, I just said it's possible, not that it makes sense for GU to do it :)
[12:32] <whodaman-> Once again, _direct_ communication > leaving some directions
[12:32] <Manu> whodaman-: every thing is possible if someone implements it :)
[12:32] <catay> sometimes it's a blessing some people can't talk :)
[12:32] <whodaman-> Manu, Constitution and I were just testing a beta.
[12:32] <Manu> whodaman-: I don't feel the need of it ;)
[12:32] <ts> Manu: Show me comparision based sorting faster than nlogn :)
[12:33] <Manu> I don't like those restrictives thingies
[12:33] <whodaman-> catay, if we don't want the GU league to end like pb or duc, then you have to talk
[12:33] <Manu> whodaman-: I consider two important things, one is the freedom, and second is the education
[12:34] <catay> I doubt that's the reason why pb/duc are not really active
[12:34] <whodaman-> There's always a reason ;)
[12:34] <catay> activity on ducati is not a recent problem
[12:34] <catay> it is there already for 2 years
[12:35] <catay> a lot of people tried to make the leagues more attractive but in the end it are the players that have to do it
[12:35] <catay> it has nothing to do with restrictions imho
[12:36] <whodaman-> meh, I'd like to give new people a chance to ask questions
[12:36] <catay> a lot of oldschool duc players stopped playing
[12:36] <whodaman-> But I guess others would just like to give them the good old -srvmsg