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Apr 03 04:17:19 <JameZ> OMG! KEV ISN'T HERE LURKING!
Apr 03 04:28:26 <JameZ> later subby
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Apr 03 05:15:12 <JameZ> hi
Apr 03 05:15:20 <JameZ> who is orange?
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Apr 03 05:18:50 <JameZ> hey sal
Apr 03 05:19:26 <orange> I am orange/ solve
Apr 03 05:19:42 <JameZ> oh, hey solve
Apr 03 05:19:48 <orange> hi
Apr 03 05:19:51 <orange> was just looking around
Apr 03 05:19:55 <orange> seeing who is around
Apr 03 05:20:17 <salus2008> hi
Apr 03 05:20:17 <JameZ> ok
Apr 03 05:20:22 <salus2008> wheres zan
Apr 03 05:20:34 <JameZ> I havent seen zan in ages
Apr 03 05:21:19 <salus2008> Orange do you like the new suspect?
Apr 03 05:21:28 <orange> who is that
Apr 03 05:21:31 <orange> I have not been around
Apr 03 05:21:33 <salus2008> Gaikowski
Apr 03 05:21:37 <orange> hmmm
Apr 03 05:21:40 <salus2008> check the board
Apr 03 05:21:43 <orange> that name seems familiar
Apr 03 05:22:04 <salus2008> apparently he had a signed copy of Paul Stines textbook
Apr 03 05:22:11 <JameZ> in the end it will be just another dead end
Apr 03 05:22:24 <orange> why would that make him a suspect
Apr 03 05:22:34 <orange> is he from modesto area?
Apr 03 05:22:39 <salus2008> it just one check out the postings
Apr 03 05:22:52 <salus2008> there a ton of things
Apr 03 05:22:56 <orange> oh Yah I will read the board tonight
Apr 03 05:23:02 <orange> I have to read it anyway
Apr 03 05:23:09 <orange> was looking for some old stuff
Apr 03 05:23:20 <salus2008> By the way Tom is in SF this week checking on the background of Gaikowski
Apr 03 05:23:35 <orange> oh
Apr 03 05:23:37 <orange> why in sf?
Apr 03 05:23:43 <orange> is he from there
Apr 03 05:24:04 <salus2008> he was a publisher of a anti-establishment newspaper
Apr 03 05:24:21 <salus2008> he moved here in the mid 1960s
Apr 03 05:24:34 <orange> oh
Apr 03 05:24:40 <orange> wehre did he move to
Apr 03 05:24:50 <orange> does he have any modesto connections
Apr 03 05:24:50 <salus2008> he was into independent films also ,a possible connection to Marshall
Apr 03 05:24:57 <orange> oh
Apr 03 05:24:59 <salus2008> im not sure
Apr 03 05:25:12 <orange> so everyone gave up on any sam connections?
Apr 03 05:25:32 <salus2008> Tom is visiting places he was associated with to get as much info as possibler
Apr 03 05:25:40 <salus2008> SAM is history
Apr 03 05:25:45 <salus2008> DNA didnt match
Apr 03 05:25:58 <orange> so
Apr 03 05:26:01 <orange> that means nothing really
Apr 03 05:26:09 <orange> anyone can lick a stamp
Apr 03 05:26:20 <orange> even the postal workers
Apr 03 05:26:39 <salus2008> well this guys nicknames and some of his weird phrases have been found in the ciphers also
Apr 03 05:26:49 <orange> oh
Apr 03 05:27:00 <salus2008> its a lot of material
Apr 03 05:27:02 <orange> but people might be wrong about the ciphers
Apr 03 05:27:06 <orange> they tend to try to make them "FIT"
Apr 03 05:27:11 <orange> whoever they are looking at
Apr 03 05:27:14 <salus2008> sure but hes the current star
Apr 03 05:27:23 <salus2008> hes dead
Apr 03 05:27:29 <salus2008> died in 1994
Apr 03 05:27:31 <orange> oh that is bad
Apr 03 05:27:41 <orange> no one wants to find a dead Z
Apr 03 05:27:42 <orange> haha
Apr 03 05:27:44 <salus2008> his friend is meeting with Tom
Apr 03 05:27:57 <orange> I am sure z is connected to modesto
Apr 03 05:28:03 <JameZ> Nancy said he does in 2004 he was arrested in 94
Apr 03 05:28:08 <salus2008> His friend told Tom about the textbook signed by Stine
Apr 03 05:28:14 <JameZ> died*
Apr 03 05:28:39 <orange> why would stine be signing textbooks
Apr 03 05:29:07 <salus2008> his name is on it ,maybe he took it from Stines cab that night
Apr 03 05:29:18 <orange> oh well that might be
Apr 03 05:29:33 <orange> Ithought you meant like an autograph signature
Apr 03 05:29:40 <salus2008> but why would he have it at all
Apr 03 05:29:54 <salus2008> seems weird
Apr 03 05:29:54 <orange> well yah seems weird he would have it true
Apr 03 05:30:27 <orange> had to get it somewhere
Apr 03 05:30:30 <orange> if it was stines
Apr 03 05:30:30 <salus2008> unless he was a serial cvollector
Apr 03 05:30:31 <orange> unless stine turned it in and someone bought it used
Apr 03 05:30:31 <orange> that happens a lot
Apr 03 05:30:31 <salus2008> yes
Apr 03 05:30:47 <salus2008> but apparently this guy spoke of the murders to his friend
Apr 03 05:31:12 <orange> so friend said nothing all this time?
Apr 03 05:31:31 <orange> how did anyone find out about this guy
Apr 03 05:31:33 <orange> the friend?
Apr 03 05:31:39 <orange> he emailed or something?
Apr 03 05:31:47 <salus2008> Tom had this a while back but i dont think he had the book to give this guy credibility
Apr 03 05:32:19 <salus2008> his friends name is Blaine
Apr 03 05:32:36 <orange> blaine what
Apr 03 05:32:42 <salus2008> Tom will meet with him this wek
Apr 03 05:32:57 <salus2008> its on the postings dont remember
Apr 03 05:33:03 <salus2008> go to them
Apr 03 05:33:19 <orange> well not really all that interested to be honest haha
Apr 03 05:33:25 <orange> was looking for something else
Apr 03 05:33:27 <orange> but I will read it
Apr 03 05:33:30 <salus2008> to bad Z is ded
Apr 03 05:33:30 <orange> while I am on there
Apr 03 05:33:33 <salus2008> dead
Apr 03 05:33:39 <orange> I don't think he is dead
Apr 03 05:33:40 <orange> haha
Apr 03 05:33:55 <salus2008> if hes not hes awfully quiet
Apr 03 05:34:26 <orange> well he might be very sick and old
Apr 03 05:34:26 <orange> or
Apr 03 05:34:26 <salus2008> or killing under some other disquise
Apr 03 05:34:33 <orange> he might be killing like someone else
Apr 03 05:34:45 <salus2008> what was he doing from 1974-on
Apr 03 05:34:54 <orange> well there were a lot of unsolved murders
Apr 03 05:35:00 <orange> he could be responsible for those
Apr 03 05:35:05 <salus2008> yes up in Santa rosa
Apr 03 05:35:09 <orange> all over
Apr 03 05:35:13 <orange> there were lots
Apr 03 05:35:13 <salus2008> in the Tahoe area
Apr 03 05:35:21 <orange> all over the bay area and in the valley
Apr 03 05:35:28 <orange> up and down the valley all over
Apr 03 05:35:34 <salus2008> are they unsolved
Apr 03 05:35:38 <orange> he could have been traveling anywhere
Apr 03 05:35:40 <orange> yes
Apr 03 05:35:44 <orange> lots of them
Apr 03 05:35:50 <orange> and missing people
Apr 03 05:35:55 <orange> he could have killed some of them too
Apr 03 05:36:14 <orange> he could have moved back east too
Apr 03 05:36:18 <orange> and killing back there
Apr 03 05:36:21 <salus2008> If he was alive dont you think he would have mailed Tom something to prove hes out there ,like a piece of Stines shirt
Apr 03 05:36:34 <orange> no
Apr 03 05:36:38 <orange> not necessarily
Apr 03 05:36:40 <orange> why would he
Apr 03 05:36:46 <orange> he does not want caught
Apr 03 05:36:49 <salus2008> im sure he'd be interested in his website
Apr 03 05:37:24 <orange> its possible he never gets on the net
Apr 03 05:37:35 <salus2008> hahaha
Apr 03 05:37:46 <salus2008> did you hear about Tarbox
Apr 03 05:38:03 <orange> no
Apr 03 05:38:14 <orange> it is also possible he sits right on the net with everyone talking to them
Apr 03 05:38:16 <salus2008> the guy that put the AD in the vallejo paper a few months back
Apr 03 05:38:39 <orange> oh yah what about him
Apr 03 05:38:50 <orange> I thought you meant something new about him
Apr 03 05:38:51 <salus2008> hes not talking anymore
Apr 03 05:39:01 <salus2008> wife shut him up
Apr 03 05:39:10 <orange> well that does not surprise me
Apr 03 05:39:20 <salus2008> why do the AD if he didnt want to talk
Apr 03 05:39:34 <orange> trying to leave a message for someone maybe
Apr 03 05:39:40 <JameZ> Im outta here, have a good one solve and sal
Apr 03 05:39:46 <orange> ok bye
Apr 03 05:39:46 <salus2008> his office was 2 blocks away from new suspect
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Apr 03 05:39:52 <salus2008> ok me too
Apr 03 05:39:57 <orange> ok
Apr 03 05:40:35 <salus2008> go to board
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