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<poutine> toxoplasmosis is no joke
<|Arken|> Hey, today poutine is an expert on cats!
<|Arken|> Oh poutine, is there anything you don't know?
<jewcano> toxoplasmosis only occurs if your cats are infected
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<jewcano> and that only happens if they are hunting rodents on a regular basis
<poutine> toxoplasmosis is quite rampant, it's usually only noticed during pregnancy though
<|Arken|> He's an expert on toxoplasmosis you know.
<brunner> and pregnancy?
<jewcano> 33% of the population has it. it's pandemic. but it also doesn't do anything.
<Kiron> this is IRC... everyone is an expert
<brunner> well why not?
<|Arken|> Kiron: Yeah, but poutine is especially an expert.
<brunner> the real Kiron stands up ! ;)
<poutine> jewcano, Eh, "it doesn't do anything" is just your uninformed opinion
<Kiron> actually I'm sitting down
<|Arken|> See? Poutine has an informed opinion.
<jewcano> my opinion is quite informed.
<poutine> Toxoplasmosis is considered to be the third leading cause of death attributed to foodborne illness in the United States. More that 60 million men, women, and children in the U.S. carry the Toxoplasma parasite, but very few have symptoms because the immune system usually keeps the parasite from causing illness.
<|Arken|> Because he's an expert on toxoplasmosis.
<|Arken|> He is sequencing the genome.
<jewcano> poutine: what are the first two leading causes of death?
<brunner> makes my rrs ache Kiron :)
<poutine> jewcano, fuck if I know
<poutine> it's irrelevant
<|Arken|> Poutine doesn't know something?!
<|Arken|> OMG
<poutine> the point is, "it doesn't do anything" is rubbish
<|Arken|> WTF
<|Arken|> BBQ
<jewcano> of course it's relevant
<brunner> boredom and trolling?
<jewcano> if the first two causes of death are obscure and irrelevant, than the third leading cause of death will be even moreso
<poutine> jewcano, Holy christ, did you not just read what I posted?
<poutine> http://www.cdc.gov/toxoplasmosis/
<jewcano> can you not answer the question?
<poutine> "it doesn't do anything" is proven to be false
<poutine> no, because you're trying to change the subject
<poutine> I directly refuted your claim
<|Arken|> e-penises out, gentlemen!
<jewcano> right. stubbing your foot and getting an infected toenail could technically kill you.
<Kiron> winning arguments on IRC seems like a rather small, inconsequential victory, all things considered.
<jewcano> answer the question or withdraw and concede.
<poutine> <jewcano> 33% of the population has it. it's pandemic. but it also doesn't do anything.
<poutine> true or false jewcano?
<jewcano> yes. it's true.
<|Arken|> it's autistic argument hour!
<poutine> http://www.cdc.gov/toxoplasmosis/
<poutine> Toxoplasmosis is considered to be the third leading cause of death attributed to foodborne illness in the United States. More that 60 million men, women, and children in the U.S. carry the Toxoplasma parasite, but very few have symptoms because the immune system usually keeps the parasite from causing illness.
<brunner> not assatisfying as making a good meal Arken :)
<jewcano> technically, hobos *do* do something, but most people would say they in fact don't do anything.
<poutine> if it's the 3rd leading cause of death attributed to foodborne illnesses, I'd say it does something
<|Arken|> Two fighters, zero social skills!
<jewcano> WHAT ARE THE FIRST TWO?
<jewcano> E. COLI?
<poutine> jewcano, it's irrelevant...
<jewcano> because like
<Kiron> poutine.... you pasted the once before... once is sufficient.
<jewcano> 12 people die a year from e.coli
<jewcano> so...
<jewcano> it is very relevant
<|Arken|> No, see, he has to keep pasting it because the more times he pastes it, the more right he is.
<poutine> Kiron, Someone was having difficulty reading my citation which directly refutes their statement
<jewcano> if 3 people a year from toxoplasmosis, then i would say that it really doesn't do anything.
<jewcano> *3 people die a year
<Kiron> if they couldn't read it the first time, it's doubtful that they could read it the second.
<jewcano> you are correct in that in extremely rare cases when the mother contracts toxoplasmosis during pregnancy, there is a risk of the unborn infant from developing fatal toxoplasmosis
<poutine> I'm 100% correct
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<jewcano> but is this statistic counting unborn fetuses?
<poutine> you've just tried shifting topics to try and shy away from the fact you're 0% correct
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<karstensrage> i need at least 102% before Ill even listen
<|Arken|> Think what it would have been like if he was only 87% correct!
<jewcano> it really doesn't do anything.
<poutine> Several independent pieces of evidence point towards a possible role of Toxoplasma infection in some cases of schizophrenia and paranoia, but this theory does not seem to account for many cases.[5] A recent study has indicated toxoplasmosis is also correlated strongly with an increase in boy births in humans, leading to an alteration of the human sex ratio.[6] According to the researchers, "depending on the antibody concentration, the
<poutine>  probability of the birth of a boy can increase up to a value of 0.72 ... which means that for every 260 boys born, 100 girls are born." The study also notes a mean rate of 0.60 to 0.65 (as opposed to the normal 0.51) for Toxoplasma positive mothers.
<jewcano> i'm not wrong.
<poutine> http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol9no11/03-0143.htm
<Kiron> poutine... is your ego so fragile that you think winning this argument matters?
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<poutine> http://www.natur.cuni.cz/~flegr/pdf/toxosons.pdf
<poutine> Kiron, I think it's apparent I've won this argument
<poutine> that has been established
<Kiron> establish this
<poutine> I'm however trying to figure out why jewcano can't figure this out
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