<freeallbadgers> oops
<freeallbadgers> radtoo and azernoth
<c0nv1ct> wha?
<freeallbadgers> got +v?
<freeallbadgers> they should
<c0nv1ct> i havent added everyone yet, still deciding
<c0nv1ct> all i've done is add the staff so far
<c0nv1ct> and lythandrel, cuz shes an oldie
<freeallbadgers> get on with it man!
<Iwonder|too> lol,that was phrased wrongly
<c0nv1ct> s/oldie/veteran/
<c0nv1ct> :P
<freeallbadgers> but a gentoo newb, weird decision proces
<freeallbadgers> s
<lythandrel> i think he really meant oldie. :P
<Iwonder|too> gentoo newb?
<c0nv1ct> shes not that much older than me, i'd be calling my self oldie too :\
<freeallbadgers> <Iwonder|too> gentoo newb?, by her own admission
<lythandrel> freeallbadgers: after a year (and close to if not over 10 additional on linux in general), i'm not feeling like that much of a newb anymore.
<freeallbadgers> that statement wasnt that long ago
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: ok,i know she hasn't the experience some do in terms of years of use,but is quite knowledgable,i would never call her a gentoo newb
<freeallbadgers> like yesterday
<c0nv1ct> i've only used gentoo for a year
<c0nv1ct> not even, 10-11 months
<freeallbadgers> its not personal, i'm just questioning
<freeallbadgers> ive nothing against lythandrel
<lythandrel> i was also describing my early experiences to docsavage so he didn't feel quite so n00bish...
<freeallbadgers> but theres a few that have contributed more..radtoo etc
<c0nv1ct> !whois trench-
<risponditore> I Recognize trench- As trench-
<c0nv1ct> !flags trench-
<freeallbadgers> he should have +v, surely?
<sicurezza> Global flags for trench-: flo
<c0nv1ct> hes an op
<c0nv1ct> i added everyone in the chanserv userlist so far, i think
<freeallbadgers> savantine/ azerthoth/dyingmuppet?
<freeallbadgers> they should be there
<Iwonder|too> why should anyone be there?i'm not certain why there is a there except to help with channel control when ops are away
<freeallbadgers> okay, Iwonder|too ,take away yer +v feel a lil less appreciated?
<Iwonder|too> take it
<Iwonder|too> you can have it,use it appropriately :-)
<freeallbadgers> uhm oka
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: i try to refrain from asking,but why you so interested in something as this +v?
<freeallbadgers> reverse that, why arent you?
<freeallbadgers> its new, blah why you so accepting? etc
<Iwonder|too> i've been owner of large channels with many staff before,i understand the decision making process involved in giving access,i don't question c0nv1ct's judgement
<freeallbadgers> then he has no flaws?
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: it wasn't offered it was given,i didn't give it back can't think of why i would as often at 3 am i'm in here with some troll and everyone is bitching at an op to wake up to kick them
<Iwonder|too> did i say that?
* docsavage thougth basically all sysops are god...
<Iwonder|too> what i said was whoever gave him access trust his judgement,so i trust it also
<docsavage> period...
<Iwonder|too> all the time i've idled here i can't think of an unfair judgement call made by c0nv1ct,can you?
<freeallbadgers> well yeh, havent loged it tho
<Iwonder|too> by all means speak up
<freeallbadgers> he was very harsh to ubrnub once, lol
<Iwonder|too> was it provoked? was he having a bad day and apoligied afrer,whats the full story,only once?my god hes a terrible op
<Iwonder|too> nothing is black and white
<docsavage> the ops here seem to be benevolent gods, in my short ecperince...
<freeallbadgers> we've gone off point
<Iwonder|too> we have?thought the point was c0nv1ct is giving access to his bot,someone higher up than he gave him this ability cause they trust him,you have an issue with this
<freeallbadgers> no docsavage , theyre arses like everywhere
<freeallbadgers> huh? Iwonder|too ?
<Iwonder|too> why you say that? you got issues with sabayon ops?
<Iwonder|too> huh? what part do i need to restate?
<freeallbadgers> sheesh iwonder, google sarcasm
<Iwonder|too> oh sorry,i really have a shitty sense of humor
<freeallbadgers> y'all get over it
<Iwonder|too> whats to get over?
<freeallbadgers> nada
<Eden> dam, i missed that..
<freeallbadgers> despite all this digresion, whay arent savantine , radtoo, Azerthoth at least +v?
<freeallbadgers> despite all this digresion, whay arent savantine , radtoo, Azerthoth at least +v?
<freeallbadgers> crap x2 sorry
<Eden> maybe because we dont need a bazillion +v with powers, maybe c0nv1ct just hasnt got around to it
<Iwonder|too> sure you didn't leave something out?
<freeallbadgers> no Iwonder|too
<freeallbadgers> and Eden why the change?
<Eden> change?
<Necoro> I don't know what's going on here - but it looks like kindergarten ... "I want +v" - "and I want +o" ... "but you don't need +v" *whine*
<Iwonder|too> ok,just checking,you seem as though you got something to say but haven't the courage
<Iwonder|too> Necoro: exactly
<freeallbadgers> theyre aint a bazillion ppl here
<Eden> it would be nice to be able to devoice myself but risponditore keeps voicing me
<Necoro> easy solution: nobody but bots get +o ... +v is useless anyway
<freeallbadgers> Necoro, dont be silly, i could care less
<Eden> Necoro, sicurezza give powers to anyone with +v
<Eden> +v have the ability to kick people from the channel
<Necoro> Eden: hmm ok
<Necoro> that sounds reasonable
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: you noticed you seem to be the only one studying this?
<Eden> !devoiceme
* sicurezza removes voice from Eden
<freeallbadgers> nope Iwonder|too
* risponditore gives voice to Eden
<Eden> damit risponditore
<Iwonder|too> lol @ Eden
<freeallbadgers> ask around
<Eden> i thought c0nv1ct said that only staff have +v or op right now
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: no need,everyone can speak,i'm assuming the 3 you mentioned have the gnads to say whats on their mind
<freeallbadgers> lol Iwonder|too , fuck em i'm saying it
<freeallbadgers> i'm cowardly?
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: that was so confusing,if its just your opinion then me asking around would produce nothing,if it is in fact people got something to say why you feel the need to represent them?
<freeallbadgers> ok then, its MY opinion
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: i dunno are you,the way you keep bringing this up makes it appear you have something else to voice but haven't yet
<freeallbadgers> nope, just this
<freeallbadgers> its annoying
<Eden> what? that not everyone has +v?
<freeallbadgers> lots haveb helped why a few annointed ones?
* Necoro has quit ("Verlassend")
<Eden> you cant just give +v to everyone how helps
<Eden> same as ops
<freeallbadgers> so why you eden?
<Eden> <c0nv1ct> all i've done is add the staff so far
<Iwonder|too> freeallbadgers: i may be wrong but that seemed more like "I(freeallbadgers) have helped,have been here awhile why didn't i get a v?"
<Eden> im admin on the wiki and mod on the forums
<freeallbadgers> Eden> you cant just give +v to everyone how helps, you see?
<freeallbadgers> Iwonder|too, read
<freeallbadgers> that
<Eden> its c0nv1ct's decision and he said that he has given +v mainly to the staff at the moment
<Eden> and yes, you cant just give it to everyone who helps
<freeallbadgers> no Iwonder|too , theres a lot before me, as i've mentioned