<Engrad> well those who are using real IRC clients, you can right click and see their name
<Asonoh> but Allola wants to see first
<Thinzall> i think we should try and fix the guild law before we add large amounts though
<Vorodie> what do you want to fix in the law?
<Thinzall> the guild law is complex
<Thinzall> to much to remember
<Thinzall> and can be shortened
<Vorodie> i read the law as was written by Mohero|sleep i mostly agree with it
<Thinzall> can you tell me how many poiints are needed to advance to rank 6
<Engrad> well, not everybody need to know everything, just what he has to do
<Engrad> 160
<Thinzall> to simplify things it should be 100 points per rank
<Engrad> cause that is my rank :)
<Thinzall> 0-100 and wwhen you hit 100 you are ready for a promotion
<Thinzall> then you start at 0 again
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<Engrad> isn't 100 too much?
<Vorodie> Thinzall: but then you need to change the "Score" of actions.... so that getting higher ranks will be more difficult...
<Thinzall> the guild info was created to make guild ranks 0-100 for each rank
<Thinzall> correct Vorodie
<Vorodie> on the other hand it is possible to make different tasks available to different ranks
<Thinzall> at some point in time guild points will not be obtained by mere recruitment or making a weapon or roleplay
<Thinzall> it will go by merit
<Thinzall> aka minister status
<Vorodie> such as a 5 level member wont get points for realm 1 spells
<Thinzall> correct
<Thinzall> when i come in the guild i would be at the upper ranks cause of all my skills
<Thinzall> without even starting at the bottom
<Thinzall> this is designed for new members just starting a character
<Thinzall> i am at 100 in daggers i am maxxed out in armor in one category
<Thinzall> i know all the magics and have advanced
<Thinzall> i roleplayed beyond my years
<Thinzall> i can make weapons to 300
<Vorodie> i think it would be better not to give lower ranks there advancement table, so that the mentor is the one that decide upon advancing and not a youngster that seeks to promote as fast as possible
<Thinzall> see all the points i would be getting?
<Edranom> Vorodie, I agree with that
<Thinzall> that is a good suggestion
<Thinzall> most come to a guild wanting to advance quickly
<Thinzall> they want all the gear they can get
<Zantatous> but we need good mentor, and many do not even have one as of yet.
<Thinzall> and if things dont go to their expection they move on
<Thinzall> if you ahve a question and you dont have a mentor.. any one of the ministers should be able to answer your questions or I should be able too
<Vorodie> i think that this scheme will force both the mentors and noobs (sorry for the term) to RP more
<Edranom> I for one, am willing to work for my rank in the guild. I don't expect it to be handed to me
<Thinzall> even though you ahvent been given a mentor.. the ministers or myself should be able to answer or show you what you need to know
<Thinzall> or we shouldnt be in the positions we are in
<Thinzall> if you ask me something and i dont know.. I will seek it out for you
<Thinzall> or put you on the right track
<Thinzall> even if i have to go to the forge and attempt to make the item or raise my magic skill sup to test something
<Thinzall> there will be promotions this weekend
<Thinzall> once things are in order then I would like to see us to start recruitment
<Thinzall> im not saying we cant recruit now
<Vorodie> i think there shouldn't be more than 5 trainees per mentor
<Thidin> I have spring break soon so I can help out a lot then.
<Zantatous> I have no problem with waiting on that, I just want to help repair the guild reputation, and thought giving wepons away to help people out would be a good idea, and at the same time recuitment would be possible, just to let you know I've only recuited 3 people since joining I take is serouisly.
<Thinzall> master of trade are the mentors?
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<Zantatous> so who is the moaster of trade of crafting?
<Thidin> Thinzall: Yes