[20:51] <Daffan> people register their runescape name only
[20:51] <Daffan> or as likley as possible
[20:51] <Daffan> always check if someone is registred before register them again
01[20:52] <ttom> k
01[20:52] <ttom> i do
[20:52] <Daffan> your not registring their rsn
01[20:52] <ttom> o
[20:52] <Daffan> your registring shortances, ive watched you
[20:52] <Daffan> when someone wants to ask for help they want to be able to see who in the clan there talking to
[20:53] <Daffan> who knows who ant is on the forum? it dosnt show at all
[20:53] <Daffan> example.
01[20:54] <ttom> finr sorry
01[20:54] <ttom> fine*
[20:54] <Daffan> its fine
[20:55] <Daffan> i dont want to sound harsh..
01[20:55] <ttom> and if there rs nick is registered by someone else? then what there screwed
[20:55] <Daffan> then make it as look alike as possible
[20:55] <Daffan> like
[20:55] <Daffan> daffan dosnt excist, i make it Daffan| or Daffan'
[20:55] <Daffan> like that
01[20:55] <ttom> k
[20:55] <Daffan> so atleast understand that daffan is daffan on the forum
[20:56] <Daffan> delete registrations that arnt rsn's
[20:56] <Daffan> if we have 100 members and 10 people are called ant, how will we separate them?
01[20:57] <ttom> k
[20:57] <Daffan> its just easier to go with their rsn
[20:57] <Daffan> just as on our forum
01[20:58] <ttom> is a_T_l allowed
[20:58] <Daffan> its okay if members change their name but staff
[20:58] <Daffan> whats his rsn?
01[20:58] <ttom> urm a t l is begining i'll find his rsn if i can
01[20:59] <ttom> a t l boy 0o
[20:59] <Daffan> go with rsn
01[20:59] <ttom> i'm guessin i'm ok with ttom seems no1 has complained yet
[20:59] <Daffan> i do now
01[21:00] <ttom> u do now? what have a problem with it
[21:00] <Daffan> i think you should have your rsn
01[21:01] <ttom> i've been on this nick for 2 mounths and now you come and say it -.- next time tell me beofre
01[21:01] <ttom> before*
[21:02] <Daffan> thought it was selvexplenary
01[21:04] <ttom> tbh thats just annoyed me big time
[21:05] <Daffan> idk why people started to use their names all of a sudden
[21:05] <Daffan> i didnt even knew nightmare was kass in the begining
[21:06] <Daffan> nether that ant was turc
[21:06] <Daffan> it seems like its a bad habbit thats spreading
[21:07] <Daffan> as your name is pretty alike you atleast that you are you
[21:07] <Daffan> you dont get that with ant and kass
01[21:08] <ttom> well i understand why becuase people would rather be called there real name rather then rs name
[21:08] <Daffan> and its time to be an example now
01[21:11] <ttom> oki so u want me to be tttom007 now
01[21:12] <ttom> and u want me 2 del every1 who don't use there rs name
[21:13] <Daffan> as long as there registred with their rsn its okay
[21:13] <Daffan> then they can change name
[21:13] <Daffan> but you should still make clear that you are you
01[21:14] <ttom> everyone so far has known who i was straight away
[21:17] <Daffan> its nice to be called your name, thats inside clan
[21:17] <Daffan> what about those who dont know what your name is?
[21:17] <Daffan> like everyone new that comes here
[21:18] <Daffan> other clans that joins here
[21:18] <Daffan> new members
01[21:18] <ttom> they know who it is when they look at staff
01[21:18] <ttom> as theres more then 1 t there
[21:18] <Daffan> who is kass?
01[21:19] <ttom> kassie or nightmare142
[21:19] <Daffan> shes nightmare
[21:20] <Daffan> anyone that isnt in the clan dosnt know who she is
[21:20] <Daffan> should we have "kass" in the member list to?
01[21:20] <ttom> thats kassie tho i'm on about me atm ffs
[21:20] <Daffan> there no need to sware
[21:20] <Daffan> were just chit chatting some
01[21:20] <ttom> i'm annoyed for 7 diff reasons
[21:21] <Daffan> well then tell me insteed of take out the anger on me
01[21:22] <ttom> atm i'm not on about other members nicks i'm on about mine becuase so far everyone even new people have known who i am thats why i'm still this nick not tttom007
[21:22] <Daffan> as your rsn is tttom its easier to understand that you are you, yes
01[21:23] <ttom> so can i keep ttom
[21:23] <Daffan> register your rsn and then you can change
01[21:23] <ttom> it's always been registered
01[21:24] <ttom> it's grouped with this nick
[21:24] <Daffan> ok
01[21:24] <ttom> nicks that are grouped with this nick are tttom007| ttom ttom|ss and tttom007
01[21:26] <ttom> so now... do u want me to get everyone to register the new nicks?
01[21:26] <ttom> well i got a better way
01[21:26] <ttom> groupin them
[21:26] <Daffan> when people register their nicks they will register their rsn
01[21:26] <ttom> then i don't have 2 add or del access
[21:26] <Daffan> group dosnt really solve this
01[21:27] <ttom> groupin a nick registers it
[21:27] <Daffan> well do like this
[21:28] <Daffan> well drop it and me mark and persh will come up with something good
01[21:28] <ttom> kk
01[21:28] <ttom> one problem i see
[21:28] <Daffan> tho i think it should selfexplenary that you represent yourselv
01[21:28] <ttom> only u know enough about irc to know the best solution
[21:29] <Daffan> its not any dramatic solution really
[21:29] <Daffan> its more morale and ethics
01[21:29] <ttom> thats just it tho people want to represent them selfs by there real nick becuase they rather be called by it then there rs names
[21:29] <Daffan> and how we represent ourselves
[21:30] <Daffan> i got enough names to keep track on, i dont need to double that number
[21:30] <Daffan> if i get to know a person ill learn his name
[21:30] <Daffan> do you want to keep track on 100 names insteed of 50?
01[21:31] <ttom> how about i use my knolage to fix it
01[21:31] <ttom> well tbh i know names realy well
01[21:31] <ttom> if i want 2 i can learn names but tbh i don't
[21:31] <Daffan> when it rises in numbers it get to much, because you have a work to do to
[21:32] <Daffan> my head is filled with sv
01[21:32] <ttom> lol
[21:32] <Daffan> how to evolve us
01[21:32] <ttom> well how about u get more people to help think of ways to evolve like the staff
01[21:32] <ttom> i could think of ways then u have more time 2 do stuff
[21:33] <Daffan> well then do it?
[21:33] <Daffan> everything helps
[21:33] <Daffan> if you see something that could be improved, let us know, that should be selfexplenary to everyone
01[21:33] <ttom> i am i have been for a while hense why i suggested for op with pershy coz u lot are busy and we can get voices easyer
01[21:33] <ttom> rather then everyone havin to be voice manualy
[21:34] <Daffan> voice manualy is worthless
[21:34] <Daffan> and why should random people have voice?
[21:34] <Daffan> voice are for people we know and friends
[21:34] <Daffan> and memebrs
01[21:34] <ttom> i'm not givein random lol thats why i asked pershy if i could be op so i could give access to members and freinds
[21:35] <Daffan> thats my opinion about IRC but others dont agree
01[21:35] <ttom> tbh i understand why u think that
[21:35] <Daffan> give access, make them register
[21:35] <Daffan> so they can get auto voiced when no hop/ops are on, do it themselves
[21:35] <Daffan> its so useless but no one cares
[21:36] <Daffan> random guy enters our channel, he gets voiced directly before we even know who it is
[21:36] <Daffan> "so it will look good" according to mark, somethinglike that
[21:36] <Daffan> i dont want to teach everyone to register, people dont give a fuck
[21:36] <Daffan> so i wont bother about mIRC
[21:37] <Daffan> and people dont care as they get voiced anyway and are happy because they think they are voiced
01[21:37] <ttom> oki we need to get this sorted between all of us not just us 2 or u and mark and stuff
[21:37] <Daffan> "it looks good"
[21:38] <Daffan> it is sorted, i dont care about mIRC, thats how its solved,
[21:38] <Daffan> i give up on it
[21:38] <Daffan> lol, i did long ago i ment
01[21:38] <ttom> lol
01[21:39] <ttom> oki then i'll fight it for you i know enough about irc to help us sort it and i know i might be able to sort mark out but i need everyones point of veiw but clear!! coz atm your view is a bit messed up
[21:40] <Daffan> copy this conversation to the forum and write about it
01[21:40] <ttom> soo all of the convo?
[21:40] <Daffan> discussions are usefull, you get out much from them
[21:40] <Daffan> all thats important
[21:41] <Daffan> base your topic with this discussion
[21:41] <Daffan> use this discussion as your base in your topic about this
01[21:41] <ttom> kk
[21:42] [highlight] Pumbaa has said your name in #svclan
[21:43] <Daffan> you know, you get pretty tired of working forward when you have to chase everyone to make them register on IRC
01[21:45] <ttom> thats why i was goin 2 suggest my next thing
01[21:45] <ttom> and it will also stop mark from voicein everyone in the channel
[21:46] <Daffan> evolving = initiatives and suggestions
01[21:46] <ttom> if there not in the clan
[21:46] <Daffan> yes, its time to get everything orginsed and written down
[21:47] <Daffan> write*
[21:47] <Daffan> nvm
01[21:47] <ttom> oo i just thought of something good but it's a script and mark parts all my bots -.-
[21:48] <Daffan> if we make it into a rule we have something official to follow
01[21:48] <ttom> o and the ml would have 2 be 100% updated
[21:49] <Daffan> hmm not that strict?
[21:49] <Daffan> well yea
[21:49] <Daffan> its not to hard to keep it 100% uppdated
[21:49] <Daffan> its mine and pershys work
01[21:49] <ttom> well my idea is a script which is like the on join clan checker
01[21:50] <ttom> if they join and there nick is in the ml then they get voice
[21:50] <Daffan> no script
[21:50] <Daffan> hmm clan checker
[21:50] <Daffan> we already have that?
01[21:50] <ttom> it;
[21:50] <Daffan> but some people have def name?
01[21:50] <ttom> wait
01[21:50] <ttom> this clan checker isnt like normal
01[21:50] <ttom> it's diffrent
01[21:51] <ttom> it checks what clan there in and voices them if there in sv
[21:51] <Daffan> skipp voice scripts
[21:51] <Daffan> make people want to get voice
[21:52] <Daffan> so they ahve to register
[21:52] <Daffan> and when there registred you wont even have to bother
[21:52] <Daffan> saves time for you
01[21:52] <ttom> if people use the wrong nick then they have to come to a hop or op to get the deff name set and then have a command that all they have 2 do to see rs name is type !rsn
[21:53] <Daffan> well, thats a way to
[21:53] <Daffan> but its sounds complicated
[21:53] <Daffan> we could do both?
01[21:53] <ttom> only for me
01[21:53] <ttom> lol
01[21:53] <ttom> complicated for me coz i have to make the script
[21:53] <Daffan> if one dosnt work the other covers
01[21:53] <ttom> lol
01[21:53] <ttom> ye lol
01[21:53] <ttom> o btw ever need help with anything just say
[21:53] <Daffan> registred= no putting people to voice for hop's and op's
01[21:54] <ttom> pershy knows this already but i like helpin people
[21:54] <Daffan> just say "log in"
01[21:54] <ttom> hmm
[21:54] <Daffan> and with your voice script
01[21:54] <ttom> i can make it do anythin if my bot has access lol
[21:54] <Daffan> their voice will still be useless as there not registred on the channel
[21:54] <Daffan> wouldnt it?
[21:55] <Daffan> they would have voice but wouldnt be voiced, right?
01[21:55] <ttom> yep if i sorted it out to check
[21:55] <Daffan> do you get what i mean?
01[21:55] <ttom> they wont have the access for voice but they will be voiced
[21:55] <Daffan> yea
01[21:55] <ttom> urm kinda
[21:55] <Daffan> add this last part of the discussion to your topic
01[21:55] <ttom> how is the bot gonna know there in sv?
01[21:55] <ttom> i havn't made it yet lol
01[21:56] <ttom> not started :P
[21:56] <Daffan> if theres a clan check on join the bot could read that answer and base it on that
01[21:56] <ttom> ye i guess
[21:56] <Daffan> if return = yes then set to voice
[21:56] <Daffan> like that
[21:56] <Daffan> ive forgotten how to script
01[21:56] <ttom> lol
01[21:56] <ttom> well
01[21:57] <ttom> i can make it check the clan or i can make the script easyer off runescript
01[21:57] <ttom> but runescript would have 2 stay in
[21:57] <Daffan> i have a clan check script?
01[21:57] <ttom> oo send please lol
[21:58] <Daffan> it dosnt work perfectly tho
01[21:58] <ttom> i'll edit to whats needed for the script and have a test about
[21:58] <Daffan> kk
[22:00] <Daffan> put it up on the forum now
[22:00] <Daffan> this idea
01[22:00] <ttom> kk
[22:00] <Daffan> explane it in many perspectives, the more the better
01[22:00] <ttom> i need to get the full convo lol
01[22:00] <ttom> and i will
01[22:01] <ttom> i'm gonna get the full convo then i'm off to put at the bottom some suggestions includein these we just said
[22:01] <Daffan> if you dont get finished with your suggestion close the topic and write
01[22:01] <ttom> kk
01[22:02] <ttom> well i'll have 2 go in 1 hour soo i wont have time if it's gonna be good
[22:02] <Daffan> "the suggestion is not ready, dont comment on this yeat, posting in this topic will be seen as spamm"
[22:02] <Daffan> you have to be clear to aboud idiot posts
[22:02] <Daffan> avoid*
01[22:02] <ttom> lol
[22:02] <Daffan> its true
01[22:02] <ttom> so i'm puttin in suggestions
[22:02] <Daffan> i started a guide
[22:02] <Daffan> and i closed it
[22:02] <Daffan> and mark posts "good guide "
01[22:02] <ttom> lol
[22:02] <Daffan> the topic title said "in progress"
[22:03] <Daffan> i had done one paragraph only