[18:22] jmkdev: c_schmitz: I do appreciate the push toward postgres :)
[18:22] c_schmitz: :)
[18:23] c_schmitz: you are welcome, Jean-Marie
[18:24] jmkdev: c_schmitz: Do you have any plan for another RC ?
[18:24] c_schmitz: nope.. we are pushing for release now
[18:24] jmkdev: c_schmitz: any deadline ?
[18:24] c_schmitz: next week
[18:25] jmkdev: c_schmitz: Fine
[18:26] jmkdev: c_schmitz: I'd to use LimeSurvey in our university in place of a proprietary product ....
[18:29] jmkdev: We will first test it with a survey about course quality (on a small group of students).
[18:29] jmkdev: c_schmitz: and then the big one : 17.000 users :)
[18:30] c_schmitz: sounds nice!
[18:30] c_schmitz: should be without a problem
[18:30] c_schmitz: Do you think your university would donate?
[18:31] c_schmitz: if yes, what way of donating would they prefer?
[18:31] jmkdev: c_schmitz: I can't do any promise, I'm working on that, ... it may be a long journey though :(
[18:32] CIA-23: limesurvey: c_schmitz * r4287 /source/limesurvey/admin/database.php: Fixed a few harmless notices on copy question
[18:33] c_schmitz: ok.. let me know... this is a serious subject for us. We have few donations and therefore we want to make it as easys for donators as possible.
[18:33] c_schmitz: That includes to find out whats the most convenient way of donating for you
[18:34] c_schmitz: (or your university in this case)
[18:34] c_schmitz: so it would be nice if you can push for it and find out ;) . We are flexible.
[18:34] jmkdev: c_schmitz: I think I understand the founding problem, I have some people working on the savings we'll make by switching....
[18:35] jmkdev: c_schmitz: but financial matters are rather harsh in France for Univs. I think the easier way for funding will be through support
[18:36] c_schmitz: But that is a great argument .. if we could only get a small percentage of the savings in a regular way.. that would be the bomb
[18:36] c_schmitz: =would be great
[18:37] jmkdev: c_schmitz: Mmm regular way ? do you mean periodic ?
[18:37] c_schmitz: ok lets play with imaginary numbers
[18:37] c_schmitz: lets say you pay 5000 Euro per month for your current software
[18:37] c_schmitz: (jsut a number)
[18:38] c_schmitz: and we would only get 1% of this periodic saving
[18:38] c_schmitz: would mean 50€ per months for the project
[18:38] c_schmitz: which would be amazingly much
[18:39] c_schmitz: in return you and your issues with teh software would be treated with high priority
[18:40] c_schmitz: meaning support-wise
[18:40] jmkdev: c_schmitz: I understand your point :) .. but one of the objective for the switch to OpenSource is to lessen our periodic costs so ...
[18:40] c_schmitz: you still save 99%
[18:40] c_schmitz: and still have some kine of support
[18:41] c_schmitz: its a win-win
[18:42] jmkdev: c_schmitz: right but let me explain that to our accountants, then wait two years for the answer :)
[18:44] c_schmitz: well.. tell them you would like to better have support in case you have a problem with 17.00 respondents because then you will send the complains directly to your accountant email account
[18:44] jmkdev: c_schmitz: k
[18:45] c_schmitz: just a suggestion :-)
[18:45] c_schmitz: seriously.. there is no maintenance free software
[18:46] c_schmitz: accountants would like to thinks so
[18:47] c_schmitz: but there just isn't
[18:48] jmkdev: c_schmitz: but the economical model based on open source is still to enter our mainstream governing rules ...
[18:48] lazar26: bingo
[18:49] c_schmitz: yep :-) If it would be easy I would not ask you for help ;)
[18:49] c_schmitz: the easy things are already solved ;)
[18:49] lazar26: now I have understand the security feature
[18:49] jmkdev: c_schmitz: .. So I have still some work to do inside in order to convince people ...
[18:49] c_schmitz: yes.. I understand
[18:50] jmkdev: jmkdev: Another funding way could be bandwith ....
[18:50] c_schmitz: lazar26: nice
[18:51] c_schmitz: no need for bandwith, we have a very good with essentially no limit and the files are hosted with sf.net
[18:51] c_schmitz: *good hosting solution
[18:52] lazar26: small step for humanity, big step for me
[18:52] c_schmitz: jmkdev: dont worry.. we wont let you down but please keep fighting for it
[18:52] jmkdev: c_schmitz: Carsten, Can you give me your email ? Just in case ....
[18:53] c_schmitz: carsten.schmitz@limesurvey.org
[18:54] jmkdev: OK, thanks. It's time to go home for me now. Auf Wiedersen
[18:54] lazar26: seas
[18:54] c_schmitz: later!