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Session Start (mrrdsh:omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 21:18:40 2008
[21:18] omniscaper: If you got a complaint take it up with me and dont bring it to the irc channel and bitch about me there
[21:19] mrrdsh: it wasnt really bitching about you, it was more bitching at the knowledge i get at one place, then get told its wrong by you
[21:19] omniscaper: wwrong
[21:19] omniscaper: was alot more than that
[21:20] omniscaper: memory laps 
[21:20] omniscaper: i'm guessing
[21:21] mrrdsh: or just blabbing and not paying particular attention to what i was typing, from what i remember it was more of me being frustrated at your responses and the fact i have to keep fixing things which could have gone over better if it was explained better, either by you, or by someone else before it got to you
[21:22] mrrdsh: or the fact you will tell me to ask others for help like ajax/axem and either they dont have time or just dont know, so the only person available is you, and your too busy to give me straight ansers for the simple minded
[21:22] omniscaper: Complaining to Slayer and the people oin the channel is not what i meant
[21:23] mrrdsh: well complaining to you omni doesnt really work either
[21:23] mrrdsh: you just say "dont be emo"
[21:23] omniscaper: how about u just DONT complain
[21:23] mrrdsh: lol
[21:23] omniscaper: i find nothing funny about any of this
[21:23] mrrdsh: i wouldnt complain if i felt i got good info and i wasnt just smacked off like a buzzing fly
[21:23] omniscaper: ....
[21:23] omniscaper: felt... good
Session Close (omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 21:33:44 2008


Session Start (mrrdsh:omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 22:27:48 2008
[22:27] omniscaper: then after that it was strictly down to business, pretending BTRL is the FBI or something top secreat and super protected and theres no time for helping people barely
[22:27] omniscaper: thats a good one
[22:28] omniscaper: havent had a good laugh for hours
Session Close (omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 22:28:36 2008


Session Start (mrrdsh:omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 22:31:12 2008
[22:31] omniscaper: Are you there, or does your talking to me "depress you too much"
[22:31] mrrdsh: sorry was in the midle of something
[22:31] mrrdsh: yeah, i feel that was some times omni, doesnt matter if you feel im wrong or not
[22:31] mrrdsh: *way
[22:32] omniscaper: which is behavior and level maturity that propmpts my behavior 
[22:32] omniscaper: how old are u?
[22:32] omniscaper: seriously
[22:33] omniscaper: U apparantly missed the part in th meeting about gossipping
[22:33] omniscaper: and behind back talks
[22:34] omniscaper: or should i just lock out out of the channel indefeintely
Session Close (omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 22:35:10 2008


Session Start (mrrdsh:omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 22:35:53 2008
[22:35] omniscaper: If you're just gonna go there to bitch and moan
[22:36] omniscaper: as for the posturing reguarding "bronze-silver" blah
[22:36] omniscaper: seniority and length of time in project means nothing
[22:37] omniscaper: practivity and work ethic does
[22:37] omniscaper: proactivity
[22:38] omniscaper: Wildcard and Newman have surpassed that and showed a level of maturity and patience and more importantly self sufficiency
[22:38] omniscaper: those assets will get to the rest of the team later this week
[22:39] omniscaper: Am i talking to wall or what
[22:39] mrrdsh: im just letting u vent
[22:39] omniscaper: i'm quite calm
[22:39] omniscaper: just telling it as it is
[22:40] mrrdsh: im sorry i dont know everything omni, im sorry that i have to ask questions and get frusterated and seem immature because of it....
[22:40] omniscaper: not about knowledgte
[22:40] omniscaper: its about attitude and behavior
[22:40] omniscaper: childish jealously... behind my back complaining
[22:41] mrrdsh: dude, everytime i complain to you you just say "dont be emo"
[22:41] mrrdsh: and i get half-answers
[22:41] omniscaper: than dont complain
[22:41] omniscaper: no you have comprehension problems
[22:41] mrrdsh: not necessarily
[22:42] omniscaper: is that wiki really so hard to understand
[22:42] mrrdsh: is it really useful to go in, read all that crap in which is pointless to go over when i could just look over the viper model and figure half of it out in 1/10 the time?
[22:43] omniscaper: you want to be hand held
[22:43] omniscaper: that is th problem
[22:43] omniscaper: viper is an example
[22:43] omniscaper: you really want to learn read the wiki
[22:43] mrrdsh: not really, you sent me the viper, the viper wasnt complete for conversion
[22:43] mrrdsh: so therefore i still had more qustions
[22:43] mrrdsh: i did read the wiki
[22:44] mrrdsh: it kinda went over my head, i read it carefully, didnt understand alot of it, im not versed in all the lingo and all this formatting stuff
[22:44] omniscaper: ok
[22:44] omniscaper: then dont format
[22:44] omniscaper: LT doesnt format
[22:44] omniscaper: Ajax doesnt format
[22:44] mrrdsh: but i want to learn, if its easier for you to have me not learn then i can just not learn, up to you
[22:44] omniscaper: THis is not a school dude
[22:45] mrrdsh: it seams to be abigger headache trying it out
[22:45] mrrdsh: *seems
[22:45] omniscaper: learn on your own time
[22:45] omniscaper: take tips
[22:45] omniscaper: be dont expect compelte tutorials
[22:45] omniscaper: from other btrl memebrs
[22:45] mrrdsh: ok, since were talking about my frustration, let me bring up one more thing about newman/wildcard
[22:46] mrrdsh: im sorry im not as great as them in all this fs2 stuff, i told you when i joined i wasnt as good, but i have to keep coming to you to get my models looked over and you kep telling me to fix things
[22:46] mrrdsh: when i have to mke the debris 4 different times it gets annoying
[22:46] mrrdsh: and i get frusterated
[22:46] mrrdsh: does that make sense?
[22:46] omniscaper: no
[22:46] omniscaper: thats how art direction works buddy
[22:46] omniscaper: this isnt Speedy's happy art galelry
[22:46] omniscaper: revisions happen
[22:47] mrrdsh: i can understand revisions, let me clarify
[22:47] omniscaper: " when i have to mke the debris 4 different times it gets annoying"
[22:47] mrrdsh: a while back i was given a tutorial showing how to make debris for a model using max tools, to cut up the model and explode it.  i did that with colonial one the first time over, you may think of it as common sense to fill in the gaps and all but i really didnt know how it worked so i winged it
[22:48] mrrdsh: then after i was told to add a damage texture, fill in the gaps, and then by you, use only 30% of the model
[22:48] mrrdsh: its things like this that bother me, sometimes thins are just assumed like "oh he will know what i mean" but i dont
[22:48] omniscaper: so what
[22:49] omniscaper: u got the intel
[22:49] omniscaper: u want everything layed out for u?
[22:49] omniscaper: nice and neat
[22:49] omniscaper: a BTRL team user's manual with lots of pictures
[22:49] omniscaper: i see someting wrong i tell u to fix it
[22:49] omniscaper: why dwell on what u think I'm assumign
[22:50] mrrdsh: well, i was sort of thinking when u saw how bad the debris were u coulda said "ok so u have no clue what ur doing, just do this this and tis"
[22:50] omniscaper: you what i think
[22:50] omniscaper: i think u dont like being being told to correct things
[22:50] omniscaper: direction or correction
[22:51] omniscaper: u tak it way too personally
[22:51] omniscaper: as an attack at you
[22:51] omniscaper: and u blame ME
[22:51] mrrdsh: i think of it more as like "ugh ffs"
[22:51] omniscaper: for tellyou the rulse from the get go
[22:51] omniscaper: i gotcha
[22:52] omniscaper: this is behavior that would make me think twice about trusting anymore sensitive material to you
[22:52] mrrdsh: ...
[22:52] mrrdsh: what so u think its my goal to leak info or something right?
[22:52] omniscaper: no
[22:53] omniscaper: but you are just proving my behavoiral points
[22:53] omniscaper: paranoia and assumptions
[22:53] mrrdsh: yeah so i get frustrated, so i cant have sensitive material, i totally get it...
[22:54] omniscaper: And another point
[22:54] omniscaper: how many threads do see out there in the public forums
[22:54] omniscaper: with Prometheus
[22:54] omniscaper: 6 pac
[22:54] omniscaper: GEminon Trav
[22:54] omniscaper: Raptor
[22:54] mrrdsh: u already went over this
[22:54] omniscaper: Gem freighter
[22:55] omniscaper: did point get to the head?
[22:55] mrrdsh: yep
[22:55] omniscaper: like my point of channel bitchery
[22:55] omniscaper: And taking direction with fucking grace
[22:56] omniscaper: and not see personal attacks everywhere
[22:56] omniscaper: or shift blame 
[22:56] mrrdsh: i dont think of it as attacks, i see it as things that frustrate me, like i just said, i have a stressed life, i get frustrated easily, sorry for that
[22:56] mrrdsh: ill try to be less of a idiot for you
[22:56] omniscaper: boo hoo
[22:56] omniscaper: life sucks
[22:56] omniscaper: period
[22:56] mrrdsh: uh hu
[22:57] omniscaper: not an excuse for anyhing
[22:57] mrrdsh: never said it was
[22:57] omniscaper: stress is all head
[22:57] omniscaper: if u cant control "emo"
[22:57] omniscaper: find another outlet
[22:57] omniscaper: has no room in btrl
[22:58] omniscaper: all the information to get thigns done are either in examples i sent u or the wiki
[22:58] omniscaper: ask questions for more intel
[22:58] mrrdsh: whats with u and the emo stuff, being emo is like suicidal depressed and all that
[22:58] omniscaper: and dont go on an "emo" fit in the channel oif people are not around to help when you WANT them to be
[22:59] omniscaper: wow
[22:59] omniscaper: emo = suicidal
[22:59] omniscaper: thats new
[22:59] omniscaper: dunno where you got your urban dictionary
[23:00] mrrdsh: just saying, when ppl arent around, i have to talk to you, and am i wrong in saying when u talk to me u act as if ur busy .etc?  nothing wrong with being busy, but then again, no on to talk to, me intruding on ur work, its not something i really WANT too do, but i have to, and ur very blunt with what u say and when ur busy its even more simply to the point
[23:00] mrrdsh: emo ppl always talk about the cut wrists stuff, just assumed, lol
[23:04] mrrdsh: just want to clear something up, to see wher ei stand kind of thing, not trying to be a smartass.  so now im a immature kid, and i can no longer be trusted with sensitive information, is this how it will be from now on?
[23:05] omniscaper: actions/behavior determine rank in BtRL
[23:05] omniscaper: not bronze
[23:05] omniscaper: not silver
[23:05] omniscaper: that shit was removed ages ago
[23:05] omniscaper: not time in project
[23:06] mrrdsh: so does my behavior fall under "you dont get anything" ?
[23:06] omniscaper: yes
[23:06] mrrdsh: lol k
[23:06] omniscaper: u are acting like a 13 year old
[23:07] omniscaper: forums are there for questions if people are not around
[23:07] mrrdsh: im sure it seems that way, i wouldnt doubt that ive been acting like a fool
[23:07] omniscaper: not a single question intthe HR thread
[23:07] omniscaper: about debris
[23:07] omniscaper: subsystems
[23:07] omniscaper: U will not get immiediate answers from people
[23:07] omniscaper: in IM or forum
[23:08] omniscaper: accept that as a given
[23:09] omniscaper: And dont ask questions out of unwilling laziness of reading Wiki's or looking at examples
[23:09] mrrdsh: huh?
[23:10] mrrdsh: i read the wiki
[23:10] mrrdsh: i looked at th viper example and used it well
[23:10] omniscaper: did that remark say....
[23:11] omniscaper: "You asl questions because your are lazy and are unwilling to read wiki and look at examples"
[23:11] omniscaper: THAT is emo
[23:11] mrrdsh: you missed the part where i said i read it and didnt really get it
Session Close (omniscaper): Mon Feb 04 23:13:17 2008