I'm not aiming to impress you, I have no need to impress you. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your theory.
Feel free to find a hobby, I'm pretty sure trolling innocent people will get old quick :)
c
On 12/27/07, Tom Karpik <email@hidden> wrote:
Hehe, believe what you want. And remember that you don't impress me in the least.
... Fuckin' kids.
On 27-Dec-07, at 12:59 AM, "Fuenty, Chris" <cfuenty@swift.ws> wrote:
> Hey Tom, as the fact that I do more programming than web design (and no, I'm not counting simple PHP web coding), I can safely say, from all the photoshop tutorials I've seen on the internet to somewhat come up with some decent graphics and sites for certain things, who says Tomchu V3 wasn't just a blatant rip off of a tutorial from the Internet, perhaps a bit customized.
>
> The PHP part is custom. I coded a very basic script for BlueSun and she took it from there. A lot of web developers use tactics like yours on their pages to add effects, and Hypnos/Tomchu.com was a very common theme/site design. I took the colors and some CSS data from what she had from the Hypnos CSS template at the time, and wrote the rest myself in TopStyle Pro. A 1px border around a box in a slightly higher shade of a color, please tell me that's not uncommon. Tomchu V3 wasn't very creative at all, expect for the logo.
>
> As far as the Trillian smilies go, you posted them on your forum. Don't bitch when you posted them publicly for people to use.
>
> Not everybody is a web developer and a creativity genius, and I can clearly say you are not one either, people will copy off of each other and until you have digital proof that her work is a direct copy of yours (try running an md5sum on the different images, if you claim the backgrounds and navbars to be the same gifs), get your damn head out of your ass.
>
> Feel free to send me any hate mail as you please.
>
> c
>
> On 12/27/07, BlueSun <bluesun@hypnosnet.org > wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlueSun [mailto: email@hidden]
> Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 7:42 AM
> To: 'Tom Karpik'
> Subject: RE: Site
>
> Ok, well for starters, I didn't copy any images from your site although I
> admit it appears that way. I used photo shop, probably the same way you did.
>
> I didn't design the news script, Chris (Zimmy) did, I just told him I wanted
> something like yours...
>
> The emoticons are from the trilian pack I got from BOD, if he got it from
> you, take it up with him. The code to add them came from a PHP tutorial and
> the trilian.pak file. Pinstripes, yeah I probably got the idea from you, but
> really it's not original since about a dozen other sites use it I'm sure.
>
> Besides, you've changed your design; you got rid of the pinstripes... oh so
> if I get rid of the pinstripes I suppose I'm still copying your design?
>
> Yes I used your original site as a template, I didn't copy the code, but I
> worked from what I saw because I thought it was a great design, and the
> original version of my site probably looked less like a copy of yours than
> this version does.
>
> Anyway, this site has been around for what, 2-3 years? How come you just now
> seem to have a problem with it?
>
> I'd be willing to change to a certain extent, perhaps redesigning the navbar
> since it's probably the only thing I actually did copy from your site.
>
> I think we can be mature about this, no need for name calling. If anything,
> you should be flattered, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery eh?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Karpik [mailto:email@hidden]
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 11:40 PM
> To: BlueSun
> Subject: Re: Site
>
> Hehe, you're funny. I suppose it wasn't too much work to "design" it
> in the first place.
>
> For starters, the navigation bar is basically a code copy-and-paste,
> not to mention the colours are virtually identical to my old ones (did
> you simply take my GIFs?).
>
> The pinstripes are a nice "original" touch.
>
> The news script's style is an admirable attempt at replicating what I
> used to have, along with the positioning of meta data around it and
> the 1px boxed outline, but you didn't quite get the fonts right. :-)
> The comments style is identical as well.
>
> The Trillian emoticons are a nice direct rip of my work (compare
> emot060.gif on your forum and my forum -- don't try telling me you
> ordered them yourself in the same way I did).
>
> In general, really good design work. I just have to wonder -- when and
> where did you get permission from me to use my stuff? And you have the
> gall to "Copyright" the site design. Wonderful.
>
> That's what bothers me. Don't be an idiot.
>
>
> On 22-Dec-07, at 5:21 PM, BlueSun wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry, what specifically bothers you? I'm not going to change
> > the entire
> > site, it's just too much work.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tom Karpik [mailto:email@hidden]
> > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 6:18 PM
> > To: bluesun@hypnosnet.org
> > Subject: Site
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > Do you mind redesigning your site so that it's not ... you know, a
> > blatant rip of my old design and my forum?
> >
> >
>
>