Raj: Whether there are advantages or not, only you know for sure.
david: yeah, maybe.
Raj: However, you have just convinced me that your way "sucks"
david: hahahahahahahahaha
Raj: gee...I'm miserable, the place smells like a toilet, the neighbors party all night, the landlord sucks.
david: i really do think we should agree to disagree, as long as i commit to succeeding under your tutelage
Raj: So, you wanna move in?
david: but
david: isn't there something to be said for rejecting all falsehoods?
david: that's all i'm saying
david: even if you can't provide a positive truth, it's better to reject falsehood
Raj: if you reject all falsehoods, what remains?
david: what remains is a lack of falsehoods
23:40
Raj: is it a void?
david: it's possible, in my interpretation, that there is no such thing as Truth
Raj: what fills in that void
david: god
david: landmark
david: fascism
Raj: ok, what is god?
david: an answer for people who need questions to have answers
Raj: ehhh...you are being snarky
david: no
david: i'm being serious
david: i want you to know that i don't mean fascism like a swearword
david: most people use it that way
Raj: ok....then let's table this conv...we're ging round & round.
david: i think we're making progress
david: but it's not achieving the goals we set out to achieve
david: i agree with you
Raj: I have things to do, and you have things to ponder
david: :)
david: i'd like to say it again: i really respect you, for a lot of reasons.
david: and i think i can learn a lot from you, both in terms of your business and in terms of your "being"
david: my goal in joining brainlink was to prove to myself and to someone whose opinion matters (to me) that i can solve problems with my current skillset and that i can solve problems that require more skills than i currently have at my disposal
david: right now, i am hearing from you that i haven't achieved that goal
david: i am hearing from you that you hear me offering excuses, not solutions.
david: so i have not yet succeeded.
david: i don't put stock in the notion that "there is no try, only do"
david: i think that's self-serving bullshit
david: trying, as far as i'm concerned, is an incredibly important part of success
david: sometimes, we are not equal to the tasks we are presented with
david: but in this lifetime, i hope to overcome obstacles
david: not simply allow myself to be obstructed
david: you have a lot of the skills that i need
david: to succeed
23:45
david: as corny as that sounds
david: (could you confirm that you're still paying attention to me? as recent events suggest, you know how much it sucks to be sincere and effusive about something only to find out you're not being heard)
Raj is no longer away.
Raj: Do or do NOT, there is NO try.
Raj: In every try, there is a seed of failure
david: ...
Raj: You can do something 1000 times, not get it right 999 and nail it on the 1000
Raj: What determines whether you did or did NOT i not the # of attempts
Raj: it is YOUR COMMITMENT
Raj: if you have a commitment to getting it done, 1 attempt or 1000 does not matter
Raj: if you have no commitment, you may/will stop after the 1st or 10th or 999th failure
david: "do or do not" is for people who only care about winning, though.
23:50
david: if you don't win, you're a loser
david: you might as well say that.
david: it's not motivation for the right reason
david: but don't you think there was something more important that i was saying?
david: i was saying that i have a lot to learn from you
david: the more i get to know you, the more i respect you
Raj: Thank you...I heard what you said.
david: and the more you encourage me to make mistakes and learn from them, the more likely i will be to take the lead on a project or a problem or even something as small as finding out what is slowing down the network.
david: but it can be tough.
david: the other day i told you that i was proud of myself for getting as far with ruby as i had, on my own.
Raj: It's not ONLY for people who care about winning...
david: you practically laughed at me
david: that's not the kind of encouragement that helps
Raj: any true professional, athlete, HUMAN being knows, ultimately, the reace is WITH YOURSELF
Raj: bite me...I'm not here to coddle you.