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Dec 16 10:21:10 <np101137>	wow, this is weird, 2 girls talking to eachother on IRC
Dec 16 10:21:26 <Sadie>	pfft
Dec 16 10:21:38 <Sadie>	np101137: whats weird about that?
Dec 16 10:23:55 <np101137>	you rarely see girls on IRC
Dec 16 10:26:18 <DiegoMax>	wait
Dec 16 10:26:21 <DiegoMax>	werent you a girl np101137 ?
Dec 16 10:26:52 <THEHAWKs>	np101137 you have to be in the right places to see that
Dec 16 10:27:28 <DiegoMax>	THEHAWKs, what are the right places to see that ?
Dec 16 10:28:31 *	komb (~komb@moofspeak-4B6B683C.rev.em-net.ne.jp) has joined #osx86scene
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Dec 16 10:28:52 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: here evidently
Dec 16 10:29:36 <THEHAWKs>	DiegoMax look at this http://www.schabell.com/2007/09/girls-on-irc.html
Dec 16 10:29:38 <DiegoMax>	oh, i didnt know you were a girl too
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Dec 16 10:30:50 <DiegoMax>	rofl THEHAWKs 
Dec 16 10:30:51 <DiegoMax>	hahahaha
Dec 16 10:31:00 <Sadie>	THEHAWKs: w00t
Dec 16 10:31:11 <Slingky>	hi guys! excuse my ignorance, but how to find ethernet card model and dev id detected by leopard ?
Dec 16 10:31:42 <Sadie>	Slingky: for support type /server irc.osx86scene.com
Dec 16 10:32:09 <THEHAWKs>	lol
Dec 16 10:34:28 *	Panther is on irc.osx86scene.net
Dec 16 10:34:30 <Panther>	*.com
Dec 16 10:35:30 <Slingky>	ok, sorry
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Dec 16 10:36:58 <DiegoMax>	i wonder if having a channel to force people to join another network
Dec 16 10:37:02 <DiegoMax>	is allowed under our rules
Dec 16 10:37:41 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: does anyone here care? srsly
Dec 16 10:37:45 <DiegoMax>	i do
Dec 16 10:37:46 <Sadie>	i cant see it in your rules
Dec 16 10:37:53 <DiegoMax>	maybe its time to update the rules then
Dec 16 10:38:13 <DiegoMax>	promoting the server is one thing
Dec 16 10:38:18 <DiegoMax>	but forcing people to join if they want support
Dec 16 10:38:20 <DiegoMax>	is different
Dec 16 10:38:25 <np101137>	es, KILL THE CHANNEL!
Dec 16 10:38:31 <DiegoMax>	exactly
Dec 16 10:38:37 <DiegoMax>	if you are here, you give support
Dec 16 10:38:37 <np101137>	PWN THEIR ASS
Dec 16 10:38:38 <Sadie>	your rules say something like "feel free to advertise but do it well"
Dec 16 10:38:40 <Sadie>	or something similar
Dec 16 10:39:07 <DiegoMax>	but i guess its common sense
Dec 16 10:39:10 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: think of it this way
Dec 16 10:39:12 <DiegoMax>	thats why there are no rules aobut that
Dec 16 10:39:28 <Sadie>	everyone moves to new server = less arguments = less hassle for you#
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Dec 16 10:40:00 <DiegoMax>	so ?
Dec 16 10:40:40 <Panther>	Who is an admin on irc.osx86scene.com?
Dec 16 10:40:46 <Panther>	I want my vHost approved. :/
Dec 16 10:40:54 <np101137>	Panther: stfu kthx
Dec 16 10:41:18 <Sadie>	Panther: SynthetiX 
Dec 16 10:41:27 <np101137>	Panther: nobody cares about your Vhost
Dec 16 10:41:29 <np101137>	use a proxy
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Dec 16 10:41:35 <np101137>	plus the admins over there are shit
Dec 16 10:41:44 <np101137>	when is Synthetix really even on?
Dec 16 10:41:53 <np101137>	you think an IRC can sustain itself with bad admins?
Dec 16 10:42:12 <Hagar>	YES! :p
Dec 16 10:42:24 <np101137>	Hagar: stfu kthx
Dec 16 10:42:24 <DiegoMax>	in any case
Dec 16 10:42:33 <Hagar>	:(
Dec 16 10:42:34 <DiegoMax>	i think that what i said is pretty logical
Dec 16 10:42:45 <DiegoMax>	there is no problem about anybody doing new servers or whatever
Dec 16 10:42:55 <DiegoMax>	but using this network to force users to join a new server
Dec 16 10:42:58 <DiegoMax>	is not ok
Dec 16 10:43:34 <DiegoMax>	im going to ask the other opers here anyway, about that "rule"
Dec 16 10:43:39 <DiegoMax>	since thats just my opinion for now
Dec 16 10:43:41 <iGuru>	Sadie, SynthetiX isn't server admin. He's just a global op.
Dec 16 10:44:41 <Hagar>	well technically, advertising other networks is bad. in this case there's a bit of who cares going on, as it's just 1 channel owner moving his own channel.. but generally, I agree with DiegoMax 
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Dec 16 10:45:46 <np101137>	and this is exactly why i hate osx86
Dec 16 10:45:49 <np101137>	omg new network
Dec 16 10:45:55 <np101137>	omg new splitting of peopel
Dec 16 10:45:57 <np101137>	people*
Dec 16 10:46:00 <np101137>	omg, join this or you die
Dec 16 10:46:06 <np101137>	omg join this or no support for oyu
Dec 16 10:46:06 <iGuru>	lol
Dec 16 10:46:07 <np101137>	you*
Dec 16 10:46:11 <DiegoMax>	i dont even consider this a split np101137 
Dec 16 10:46:13 <DiegoMax>	but w/e
Dec 16 10:46:26 <np101137>	DiegoMax: its just an extra thing for people to believe in
Dec 16 10:46:29 <np101137>	making the beliefs split
Dec 16 10:46:50 <DiegoMax>	maybe synthetix believes that telling people that he is maxxuss and this like that will make people follow him
Dec 16 10:46:53 <DiegoMax>	i have no clue, really
Dec 16 10:46:57 <iGuru>	People believe in groups now? What is OSx86, a religion?
Dec 16 10:46:59 <np101137>	he is not maxxuss
Dec 16 10:46:59 <iGuru>	:P
Dec 16 10:47:02 <np101137>	he will never be maxxuss
Dec 16 10:47:03 <DiegoMax>	i know np101137 
Dec 16 10:47:10 <DiegoMax>	but thats what he says to several people in PM's
Dec 16 10:47:14 <DiegoMax>	can you believe that ?
Dec 16 10:47:15 <DiegoMax>	lol
Dec 16 10:47:15 <np101137>	he can barely hack an sse3 kernel
Dec 16 10:47:20 <Hagar>	it's all just silly, but if I try to oppose it then I'm suddenly a *mooflet whore stifling freedom"
Dec 16 10:47:20 <np101137>	let alone anyhting past that
Dec 16 10:47:22 <np101137>	anything*
Dec 16 10:47:27 <np101137>	and he thinks he is maxxus?
Dec 16 10:47:28 <np101137>	wtf
Dec 16 10:47:37 <Hagar>	yeah, the maxxuss thing is suck a joke.
Dec 16 10:47:49 <np101137>	Hagar: can you please change the Bots nickname?
Dec 16 10:47:52 <np101137>	the maxxuss one
Dec 16 10:47:53 <THEHAWKs>	np101137 lol you need to step back and take another look 
Dec 16 10:48:16 <Hagar>	um, won't that just cause more drama, np101137 ?
Dec 16 10:48:29 <np101137>	THEHAWKs: you may think i do, but i know about pretty much everything in osx86, why things happened, who started it, and why
Dec 16 10:48:37 <np101137>	and at least have a general idea on how to not start this again
Dec 16 10:48:57 <np101137>	Hagar: wouldnt that stop making people talk to bots looking for answers to life? :P
Dec 16 10:49:04 <DiegoMax>	rofl
Dec 16 10:49:10 <THEHAWKs>	me to from looking at everything 
Dec 16 10:49:12 <THEHAWKs>	lol
Dec 16 10:49:12 <Sadie>	iGuru: wtf
Dec 16 10:49:17 <Hagar>	lol
Dec 16 10:49:28 <iGuru>	Sadie, DragonWize is server admin
Dec 16 10:49:52 <DiegoMax>	anyway, its ok if SynthetiX decides to have his network
Dec 16 10:49:54 <DiegoMax>	ok for me at least
Dec 16 10:50:02 <DiegoMax>	all i said was
Dec 16 10:50:08 <DiegoMax>	dont use this network to force users to join
Dec 16 10:50:14 <DiegoMax>	end of story.
Dec 16 10:50:34 <np101137>	im saying, making yet another place for people to go
Dec 16 10:50:41 <np101137>	is hurting peple more then helping them
Dec 16 10:50:42 <DiegoMax>	yah well
Dec 16 10:50:53 <DiegoMax>	the short story is, he wanted to have an oLine here, wich was refused
Dec 16 10:50:54 <Hagar>	agreed,l but what can you do?
Dec 16 10:50:56 <np101137>	IMO, someone ought to find maxxuss, somewhere
Dec 16 10:50:57 <THEHAWKs>	i think here is ok :)
Dec 16 10:50:59 <DiegoMax>	and thats the reason of the "split"
Dec 16 10:50:59 <np101137>	get oui
Dec 16 10:51:00 <np101137>	blex0r
Dec 16 10:51:03 <np101137>	semthecx
Dec 16 10:51:04 <Sadie>	"noobbuss"
Dec 16 10:51:05 <np101137>	semthex*
Dec 16 10:51:10 <Sadie>	:p
Dec 16 10:51:11 <np101137>	and some other true devs
Dec 16 10:51:15 <DiegoMax>	np101137, so we have to agree his oline request then ?
Dec 16 10:51:18 <DiegoMax>	so he stays here ?
Dec 16 10:51:33 <np101137>	then DDoS HU, moof, and this new server, along with insanelymac and hackint0sh
Dec 16 10:51:40 <np101137>	and just make one, unified place
Dec 16 10:51:51 <np101137>	i dont see many differences between all 3
Dec 16 10:51:54 <THEHAWKs>	that would be really cool
Dec 16 10:51:57 <THEHAWKs>	to have
Dec 16 10:51:58 <DiegoMax>	indeed
Dec 16 10:52:01 <DiegoMax>	just tell me how to do it
Dec 16 10:52:19 <Hagar>	np101137 you're dreaming..
Dec 16 10:52:35 <np101137>	a man can dream, cant he?
Dec 16 10:52:39 <THEHAWKs>	lol well he can 
Dec 16 10:52:47 <np101137>	os then stfu THEHAWKs 
Dec 16 10:52:47 <THEHAWKs>	lol i would like to see that
Dec 16 10:52:48 <np101137>	so*
Dec 16 10:52:53 <Hagar>	fair enough, just don't make out it's even vaguely feasible
Dec 16 10:53:15 <np101137>	did i do that?
Dec 16 10:53:19 <DiegoMax>	in any case
Dec 16 10:53:23 <DiegoMax>	if you take a look at the history
Dec 16 10:53:31 <DiegoMax>	you will notice that all the splits were because of power fights
Dec 16 10:53:36 <Sadie>	osx86 - drama = dead
Dec 16 10:53:37 <np101137>	yup
Dec 16 10:53:41 <np101137>	stupid egotistical people
Dec 16 10:53:43 <DiegoMax>	because XXX wanted to manage the forums, or because XXX wanted to manage the IRC
Dec 16 10:53:47 <DiegoMax>	etcetera, etcetera
Dec 16 10:54:15 <Hagar>	becaus XXX wanted more money, don't forget
Dec 16 10:54:20 <np101137>	and this is why i dont give shit about osx86
Dec 16 10:54:20 <DiegoMax>	lol right
Dec 16 10:54:36 <DiegoMax>	and yes, it is sad that more and more people is leaving everyday
Dec 16 10:54:49 <Hagar>	are they? I hadn't noticed..
Dec 16 10:54:53 <np101137>	oui
Dec 16 10:54:54 <np101137>	semthex
Dec 16 10:54:57 <DiegoMax>	they are still on IRC's maybe
Dec 16 10:54:58 <np101137>	maxxuss
Dec 16 10:55:03 <DiegoMax>	but they dont care anymore about osx86
Dec 16 10:55:06 <np101137>	prasys doesnt really d anymore
Dec 16 10:55:07 <np101137>	dev*
Dec 16 10:55:08 <Hagar>	all I notice is that more & more unknown names keep turning up with good knowledge
Dec 16 10:55:14 <np101137>	Hagar: like who?
Dec 16 10:55:17 <DiegoMax>	thats also true ha
Dec 16 10:55:19 <DiegoMax>	**hagar
Dec 16 10:55:24 <np101137>	name oen
Dec 16 10:55:25 <THEHAWKs>	with all this dev and osx86 if you all wanted to you could of started a company making apple frendly hardware
Dec 16 10:55:26 <np101137>	one*
Dec 16 10:55:41 <joe75>	iX
Dec 16 10:55:46 <joe75>	iGuru: 
Dec 16 10:55:52 <joe75>	Dense
Dec 16 10:55:56 <Sadie>	lol
Dec 16 10:55:57 <np101137>	iX was ok, i guess, but he did not support all hardware types
Dec 16 10:56:01 <THEHAWKs>	lol
Dec 16 10:56:04 <Sadie>	iGuru isnt so new :P
Dec 16 10:56:10 <np101137>	iGuru is question answer kind of guy, and he isnt new
Dec 16 10:56:14 <Sadie>	new nicks
Dec 16 10:56:18 <np101137>	dense, dont realy know him
Dec 16 10:56:24 <THEHAWKs>	am i new
Dec 16 10:56:25 <THEHAWKs>	:)
Dec 16 10:56:35 <THEHAWKs>	you would never know :)
Dec 16 10:57:29 <Daedalus>	what about me?
Dec 16 10:57:29 <DiegoMax>	anyway, it is sad, i have a lot of people on my IM list, that used to be really interested in osx86, and most of them lost interest mainly because of the "scene"
Dec 16 10:57:32 *	Daedalus makes a cue face
Dec 16 10:57:37 <DiegoMax>	so i happen to agree with np101137 in part
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Dec 16 10:58:01 *	maxxuss sets mode +a #osx86scene Prawker
Dec 16 10:58:01 *	maxxuss gives channel operator status to Prawker
Dec 16 10:58:14 <np101137>	DiegoMax: yes, osx86 is a great project
Dec 16 10:58:19 <np101137>	i mean, OS X rules
Dec 16 10:58:19 <Hagar>	seiously, though, I'm not worried about the future odf osx86 at all.. split all you like, argue & have little wars.. there's enough info out there now that people with a clue can carry on & build on what's there.. and they will.
Dec 16 10:58:24 <np101137>	but thats the proble, thne seen
Dec 16 10:58:25 <np101137>	scene*
Dec 16 10:58:27 <Hagar>	damn.. wonk rindow..
Dec 16 10:58:51 <joe75>	i agree with Hagar 
Dec 16 10:58:57 <DiegoMax>	yes
Dec 16 10:59:42 <np101137>	i eventualy should write a guide
Dec 16 10:59:47 <Prawker>	Machiest mission 2: 8382 
Dec 16 10:59:48 <DiegoMax>	i just dont agree with people who says "im all for the community" and then demands an oline
Dec 16 11:00:01 <np101137>	"How to Hack a Kernel, build a DVD, and Decrypt, an All Around OSx86 Developers Handbook"
Dec 16 11:00:03 <DiegoMax>	thats what im not gonna tolerate
Dec 16 11:00:16 <Hagar>	and the only thing holding that back is the secrecy of closed source, which will leak eventually, because it always does..
Dec 16 11:00:32 <np101137>	Hagar: correction, it wll always leak because I MAKE it leak
Dec 16 11:00:36 <np101137>	will*
Dec 16 11:00:41 <DiegoMax>	lol
Dec 16 11:00:41 <np101137>	all of the source leaks?
Dec 16 11:00:42 <np101137>	that was me
Dec 16 11:00:46 <np101137>	every single one
Dec 16 11:00:49 <np101137>	the bin patching kit
Dec 16 11:00:52 <Sadie>	wait? you are using apples sources under the APSL?
Dec 16 11:00:54 <Hagar>	shh! man.. don't gfive the game away :p
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Dec 16 11:01:06 <joe75>	xD
Dec 16 11:01:10 <np101137>	i almost released the whole HU SVN
Dec 16 11:01:16 <np101137>	i could right today
Dec 16 11:01:33 <Sadie>	np101137: do it!
Dec 16 11:01:39 <np101137>	i even have permission from e veryone BUT netkas
Dec 16 11:01:42 <np101137>	inluding semthex
Dec 16 11:01:44 <np101137>	to do so
Dec 16 11:01:46 <np101137>	and zef
Dec 16 11:01:53 <np101137>	so there WOULD be no problems
Dec 16 11:01:55 *	iGuru catches up on the conversation
Dec 16 11:02:01 <DiegoMax>	ahhh ! my good old friend netkas !
Dec 16 11:02:05 <DiegoMax>	the soviet mac !
Dec 16 11:02:08 <np101137>	dont even start with netkas
Dec 16 11:02:08 <Sadie>	np101137: do it and i'll buy you a cookie
Dec 16 11:02:09 <joe75>	:P
Dec 16 11:02:16 <np101137>	he is an egotistical fuck that needs to release his fucking sources
Dec 16 11:02:25 <np101137>	end of story
Dec 16 11:02:31 <Sadie>	in soviet russia sources need to release netkas
Dec 16 11:02:32 <DiegoMax>	hint, if you really want to piss him off, call him "the soviet mac"
Dec 16 11:02:35 <DiegoMax>	:p
Dec 16 11:02:37 <np101137>	lol
Dec 16 11:03:13 <THEHAWKs>	ran on diesel fuel
Dec 16 11:03:14 <iGuru>	np101137, I could release the sources too if I wanted, doesn't mean i'm going to though.
Dec 16 11:03:23 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: i haz a better idea :P
Dec 16 11:03:24 <np101137>	iGuru: why hnot?
Dec 16 11:03:29 <np101137>	it can do nothing but help the community
Dec 16 11:03:38 *	iGuru shrugs
Dec 16 11:03:46 <iGuru>	It's not my source to give away.
Dec 16 11:03:49 <iGuru>	I didn't make any of it.
Dec 16 11:03:55 <DiegoMax>	it is amazing how i know people working on TERRIBLY MORE COMPLEX code, and they release it for everybody
Dec 16 11:03:56 <np101137>	iGuru: i have complete permission to do so
Dec 16 11:04:04 <DiegoMax>	here is just unbelievable
Dec 16 11:04:06 <THEHAWKs>	then change a part of it and give it away:)
Dec 16 11:04:11 <iGuru>	Well then what you do is up to you :)
Dec 16 11:05:10 <np101137>	oh and if anyone here leaks a log to netkas, i will kill you :)
Dec 16 11:05:11 <iGuru>	I'll be releasing my AppleSMBIOS source sometime soon. So everyone can customize their own instead of having to use whatever Netkas feels like providing.
Dec 16 11:05:25 <np101137>	iGuru: exactly, open source makes customization possible
Dec 16 11:05:32 <DiegoMax>	np101137, i bet you its gonna be on pastebin in less than 30 mins
Dec 16 11:05:33 <Hagar>	as I see it, if the code's out there, some guy who's been writing mac apps for years and stumbles across osx86 can pick it up & do stuff.. if it isn't he cant..
Dec 16 11:05:37 <DiegoMax>	anybody taking bets ?
Dec 16 11:05:37 <iGuru>	Though AppleSMBIOS isn't exactly complex to modify in the first place...
Dec 16 11:05:49 <np101137>	DiegoMax: what is?
Dec 16 11:05:58 <DiegoMax>	the logs you are talking about
Dec 16 11:06:01 <Sadie>	yeah
Dec 16 11:06:06 <Sadie>	it happens with everything
Dec 16 11:06:07 <DiegoMax>	another strange thing about osx86 scene
Dec 16 11:06:12 <DiegoMax>	PM's here, are not really PM
Dec 16 11:06:15 <Sadie>	if it goes onto pastebin.com telll me
Dec 16 11:06:22 <iGuru>	lol
Dec 16 11:06:26 <DiegoMax>	actually, i have found that if i want something on pastebin, it is faster to PM somebody
Dec 16 11:06:27 <Sadie>	and i'll get the dude to rm it
Dec 16 11:06:32 <DiegoMax>	than to paste it myself
Dec 16 11:06:34 <DiegoMax>	go figure
Dec 16 11:06:47 <THEHAWKs>	lol you can read a lot of cool convos on pastebin :)
Dec 16 11:06:53 <DiegoMax>	indeed
Dec 16 11:06:59 <THEHAWKs>	some go back to 2005
Dec 16 11:07:03 <Sadie>	this guy was saying stuff about me
Dec 16 11:07:07 <Sadie>	i pwned him after i found it
Dec 16 11:07:13 <Sadie>	apparently im a "gpl fanboi"
Dec 16 11:07:19 <iGuru>	~/iGuru/Documents/SVN/ToH... 1.14GB on disk. It's a lot of code ;)
Dec 16 11:07:29 <Hagar>	wtf is a gpl fanboi?
Dec 16 11:07:37 <DiegoMax>	iGuru, i happen to have all that i think
Dec 16 11:07:42 <Sadie>	Hagar: a fan of the gpl license
Dec 16 11:07:43 <Sadie>	lol
Dec 16 11:07:44 <DiegoMax>	or at least sizes matches
Dec 16 11:07:44 <np101137>	iGuru: that is not all the SVN
Dec 16 11:07:50 <np101137>	i zipped it down to 100 or so mb
Dec 16 11:07:51 <iGuru>	Sadie, don't you mean fangirl?
Dec 16 11:07:52 <DiegoMax>	i agree with np101137 
Dec 16 11:07:55 <DiegoMax>	it always leaks
Dec 16 11:08:04 <Sadie>	iGuru: yes.. but this was well over 6 months ago
Dec 16 11:08:08 <iGuru>	np101137, how do you mean it isn't all of it?
Dec 16 11:08:08 <Hagar>	yeah, Sadie I'm with you that far.. I just don't see what that's supposed to mean.
Dec 16 11:08:20 <np101137>	so im not going completely insane?  peope are actually agreeing wth me here?
Dec 16 11:08:22 <Sadie>	Hagar: do i look like a gpl fanboi to you? :P
Dec 16 11:08:27 <Hagar>	yes?=
Dec 16 11:08:28 *	Sadie agrees!
Dec 16 11:08:29 <DiegoMax>	you are not insane np101137 
Dec 16 11:08:30 <np101137>	iGuru: i mean that you have extra stuff in there
Dec 16 11:08:32 <Sadie>	pfft
Dec 16 11:08:37 <iGuru>	Ohh, right.
Dec 16 11:09:14 <DiegoMax>	another interesting phenomena about the osx86 scene
Dec 16 11:09:24 <iGuru>	I just made a working copy of the SVN... that's all.
Dec 16 11:09:33 <DiegoMax>	is that usually (not always) people that is considered "a shit", happen to be the best people by far
Dec 16 11:09:35 <Hagar>	np101137 I agree with pretty much everything except the "destroy everything we have so we can all be one" thing because that is just doomed to utter failiure.
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Dec 16 11:09:36 <DiegoMax>	at least on my own experience
Dec 16 11:10:21 <joe75>	utter failure... mooo
Dec 16 11:10:45 <iGuru>	DiegoMax, best in what way?
Dec 16 11:11:03 <DiegoMax>	as in, good people
Dec 16 11:11:06 <iGuru>	Ah, right
Dec 16 11:11:09 <DiegoMax>	at least what you can judge over IRC
Dec 16 11:11:12 <iGuru>	Yeah
Dec 16 11:11:38 <DiegoMax>	i have countless logs of people telling me shit about np101137 just to name one
Dec 16 11:12:02 <iGuru>	Ok
Dec 16 11:13:42 <Sadie>	fuck
Dec 16 11:13:45 <Sadie>	i deleted my logs :|
Dec 16 11:13:57 <DiegoMax>	anyway, going back to the origin of this convo, i happen to like this network, i like it very much, and i happen to be an op on this network here, i dont think that it is a sin
Dec 16 11:14:06 <np101137>	wait
Dec 16 11:14:11 <DiegoMax>	so i will do my best to keep it clean if i see something that i consider not correct
Dec 16 11:14:11 <np101137>	DiegoMax: who said shit about me?
Dec 16 11:14:45 <np101137>	this seems interesting
Dec 16 11:14:46 <DiegoMax>	i think we have been over that on long PM's np101137 ?
Dec 16 11:14:47 <np101137>	i want ot know
Dec 16 11:14:48 <DiegoMax>	in the past ?
Dec 16 11:14:50 <Hagar>	anyone who has not had endless shit talked about them has never really taken part in the world of osx86
Dec 16 11:14:52 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: i had "countless logs" as well
Dec 16 11:14:55 <Sadie>	but i deleted em
Dec 16 11:15:00 *	Sadie coughs shiftily
Dec 16 11:15:03 <np101137>	DiegoMax: since everything ends up leaking DiegoMax , i thhink you can probably just show me them
Dec 16 11:15:26 <DiegoMax>	im not sure if i have all that.... and honestly, im not sure if that would help anyway ?
Dec 16 11:15:42 <np101137>	you think it can hurt?
Dec 16 11:15:43 <DiegoMax>	i could search if that makes you happy anyway
Dec 16 11:15:53 <np101137>	if people want to say something, say it to my face
Dec 16 11:15:59 <np101137>	jesus people, stop being pussies
Dec 16 11:16:07 <np101137>	yes DiegoMax, it would make me happy
Dec 16 11:16:13 <DiegoMax>	hmm ok
Dec 16 11:16:25 <iX>	hmm
Dec 16 11:16:31 <DiegoMax>	i dont really like the log paste policy tbh
Dec 16 11:16:32 <iX>	just got back
Dec 16 11:16:45 <DiegoMax>	so i wont
Dec 16 11:17:04 <np101137>	DiegoMax: wow, first time someone hasnt pasted a log when i asked them
Dec 16 11:17:05 <THEHAWKs>	am i on that log DiegoMax j/k :)
Dec 16 11:17:07 <np101137>	nice work
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Dec 16 11:17:12 <maxxuss>	[mac-mini] O HAI
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Dec 16 11:17:27 <THEHAWKs>	oh no its a mac mini
Dec 16 11:17:41 <np101137>	oh fuck..
Dec 16 11:18:00 <DiegoMax>	people changes its mind too
Dec 16 11:18:01 <DiegoMax>	thats normal
Dec 16 11:18:49 <np101137>	if someone gets netkas's pc_efi source (hint joe75 and iGuru) pls give to me
Dec 16 11:19:06 <np101137>	netkas will probably gline me if i did anything
Dec 16 11:19:12 <DiegoMax>	but let me show to you all how this work
Dec 16 11:19:15 <iGuru>	np101137, you don't have PC_EFI source?
Dec 16 11:19:16 *	THEHAWKs is that everyone who has it :)
Dec 16 11:19:18 <DiegoMax>	remember the bc-girl issue some days ago ?
Dec 16 11:19:20 <np101137>	iGuru: not the latest
Dec 16 11:19:29 <np101137>	netkas refuses to give to anyone
Dec 16 11:19:54 <DiegoMax>	she pasted a log of myself
Dec 16 11:19:59 <DiegoMax>	telling anything but the truth
Dec 16 11:20:08 <DiegoMax>	that synthetix was going to move becasue of the oline issue
Dec 16 11:20:09 <THEHAWKs>	you sure
Dec 16 11:20:11 <iGuru>	SVN/projects/boot-132/tags/netkas/ - that old source then?
Dec 16 11:20:18 <DiegoMax>	but magically, she forgot to paste
Dec 16 11:20:19 <np101137>	yup
Dec 16 11:20:24 <iGuru>	Ah ok
Dec 16 11:20:28 <DiegoMax>	the part where she was telling a lot of crap about people like joe75
Dec 16 11:20:31 <DiegoMax>	and many other op's here
Dec 16 11:20:57 <DiegoMax>	and that was the reason because i zlined her, not only because of pasting a PM, but also because of pasting it incomplete and out of context
Dec 16 11:20:58 <iGuru>	DiegoMax, BC-Girl should never have been made an admin in the first place imho.
Dec 16 11:21:04 <DiegoMax>	also
Dec 16 11:21:04 <Sadie>	why the hell not?
Dec 16 11:21:10 <DiegoMax>	she created a channel
Dec 16 11:21:11 <DiegoMax>	and invited me
Dec 16 11:21:13 <Sadie>	bc-girl > *
Dec 16 11:21:22 <iGuru>	She was, and is unstable.
Dec 16 11:21:22 <DiegoMax>	the plan was to invite joe75 too (wich i refused)
Dec 16 11:21:26 <mac-mini>	/kick Sadie?
Dec 16 11:21:27 <mac-mini>	:P
Dec 16 11:21:31 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: you should come.. shouldnt you
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Dec 16 11:21:44 <DiegoMax>	and the idea was to put joe75 in a position were he should apologize for i dont know what
Dec 16 11:21:47 <DiegoMax>	come on....
Dec 16 11:21:49 <DiegoMax>	who is she ? god ?
Dec 16 11:21:50 <DiegoMax>	rofl
Dec 16 11:21:54 <np101137>	lol
Dec 16 11:21:55 <joe75>	lol 
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Dec 16 11:21:58 <THEHAWKs>	lol
Dec 16 11:22:01 <iGuru>	DiegoMax, she seemed to want to be here.
Dec 16 11:22:08 <DiegoMax>	and Sadie 
Dec 16 11:22:11 <Sadie>	she DOES want to be here
Dec 16 11:22:18 <DiegoMax>	you are petpow right ?
Dec 16 11:22:20 <Sadie>	shes trying to be practical
Dec 16 11:22:24 <iGuru>	DiegoMax, yes she is.
Dec 16 11:22:25 <joe75>	i have nothing to apologize for ;)
Dec 16 11:22:26 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: what do you think
Dec 16 11:22:32 <DiegoMax>	you came to PM me
Dec 16 11:22:38 <DiegoMax>	specifically to ask me to zline kiko
Dec 16 11:22:42 <Sadie>	yeah
Dec 16 11:22:46 <DiegoMax>	and let me tell you
Dec 16 11:22:46 <Sadie>	i did
Dec 16 11:22:48 <joe75>	:O
Dec 16 11:22:52 <Sadie>	because kiko is a total fucktard
Dec 16 11:22:54 <DiegoMax>	that i consider kiko by far more useful than you
Dec 16 11:22:57 <DiegoMax>	and i mean... BY FAR
Dec 16 11:22:57 <Sadie>	and hes raping this network to death
Dec 16 11:22:59 <np101137>	:O
Dec 16 11:23:03 <np101137>	PWNED
Dec 16 11:23:09 <Sadie>	why? because he kisses your ass?
Dec 16 11:23:10 <np101137>	well, Kiko is a good dev
Dec 16 11:23:12 <THEHAWKs>	haha
Dec 16 11:23:14 <DiegoMax>	kiko can have lots of mistakes like we all have
Dec 16 11:23:16 <Sadie>	and does everything you say
Dec 16 11:23:19 <joe75>	kiko is a friend 
Dec 16 11:23:19 <DiegoMax>	but he haves also something that you lack
Dec 16 11:23:20 <np101137>	he is just a teenager
Dec 16 11:23:23 <DiegoMax>	called "intelligence"
Dec 16 11:23:27 <Sadie>	kiko is a lying fucktard
Dec 16 11:23:28 <np101137>	lol
Dec 16 11:23:29 <np101137>	rofl
Dec 16 11:23:30 <DiegoMax>	go read on the wiki about it
Dec 16 11:23:34 <np101137>	lmao
Dec 16 11:23:37 <Sadie>	DiegoMax: i have
Dec 16 11:23:38 <Sadie>	kthx
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Dec 16 11:23:44 <np101137>	Kiko was a main dev of the EFI
Dec 16 11:23:56 <DiegoMax>	just because of that
Dec 16 11:23:56 <Sadie>	who gives a damn
Dec 16 11:23:58 *	Sadie doesnt
Dec 16 11:23:59 <DiegoMax>	kikio haves my respect
Dec 16 11:24:10 <DiegoMax>	not because of the EFI, because he is intelligent, period.
Dec 16 11:24:15 <Sadie>	wtf
Dec 16 11:24:38 <Sadie>	then why doesnt he excercise some of this "intelligence" on irc
Dec 16 11:24:52 <DiegoMax>	just because he doesnt cares ?
Dec 16 11:24:55 <Sadie>	i have never seen him make a single sane comment since i joined this network
Dec 16 11:25:07 <DiegoMax>	well, he just happen to be an ass with ignorants
Dec 16 11:25:12 <DiegoMax>	thats a good policy imho
Dec 16 11:25:19 <Sadie>	stfu
Dec 16 11:25:35 <Krazubu>	lol
Dec 16 11:25:35 <Krazubu>	hi
Dec 16 11:25:42 <np101137>	BITCHFIGHT!!!!
Dec 16 11:25:46 <DiegoMax>	really Sadie, you still claim that everybody in the #1 software company are stupids
Dec 16 11:25:46 <DiegoMax>	come on
Dec 16 11:25:49 <THEHAWKs>	its called raping you OSX86 
Dec 16 11:25:55 <THEHAWKs>	lol
Dec 16 11:25:55 <Sadie>	i dont
Dec 16 11:25:58 <DiegoMax>	yes you did
Dec 16 11:26:04 <Sadie>	no i didnt
Dec 16 11:26:08 <DiegoMax>	well w/e
Dec 16 11:26:40 <DiegoMax>	you make me remember to some random guy at some random forum
Dec 16 11:26:45 <DiegoMax>	who claimed that google servers crashed a lot
Dec 16 11:26:51 <np101137>	lol
Dec 16 11:26:54 <mac-mini>	lol
Dec 16 11:27:00 <Sadie>	wtf
Dec 16 11:27:11 <Sadie>	um... o..k..
Dec 16 11:27:14 *	Sadie edges away
Dec 16 11:27:15 <DiegoMax>	sorry, but it is just funny
Dec 16 11:27:18 <DiegoMax>	you talking about MS
Dec 16 11:27:24 <DiegoMax>	sorry.
Dec 16 11:28:12 <np101137>	/kickban allFucktards
Dec 16 11:28:14 <Sadie>	/lb
Dec 16 11:28:16 <Sadie>	oops
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Dec 16 11:28:28 *	np101137 watches as the whole room gets kicked, with an exception of 5
Dec 16 11:28:39 <mac-mini>	hello sadie
Dec 16 11:28:42 <Hagar>	:o np101137 no emptying teh networkz plz
Dec 16 11:28:55 <np101137>	Hagar: im just trying to prove a point?
Dec 16 11:29:03 <np101137>	without the ?
Dec 16 11:29:15 <Hagar>	you're having a rtant.. don't let me interrupt :p
Dec 16 11:29:59 <Hagar>	without the t :p
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Dec 16 11:30:10 <mac-mini>	rofl
Dec 16 11:30:34 <Hagar>	cybex, eh..
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Dec 16 11:31:00 <np101137>	Sadie: /join 0 ftw?
Dec 16 11:31:04 <Sadie>	ugh wrong server
Dec 16 11:31:13 <Sadie>	meant to type that on localirc
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Dec 16 11:35:36 <Sadie>	hrmmm
Dec 16 11:35:47 <Sadie>	the only logs in my archive i can find are for #hackint0sh
Dec 16 11:35:49 <np101137>	this just proves a point
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Dec 16 11:35:51 <conspicuous>	k
Dec 16 11:35:56 <Sadie>	the ones SynthetiX asked me to find
Dec 16 11:36:00 <np101137>	most people in OSx86 are complete fucktards
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Dec 16 11:36:05 <maxxuss>	[Kevin_4e] smile :)
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Dec 16 11:36:10 <conspicuous>	not smile plz.
Dec 16 11:36:11 <DiegoMax>	hey kevin
Dec 16 11:36:18 <kevin_4e>	hello
Dec 16 11:36:19 <DiegoMax>	welcome to drama Pt 35409837490834790335
Dec 16 11:36:26 <np101137>	i think Ramm is smarter then 99.99999999999% of people in OSx86
Dec 16 11:36:30 <np101137>	im guessing the reaction
Dec 16 11:36:33 <np101137>	NO HEX A FOOL
Dec 16 11:36:36 <np101137>	HES*
Dec 16 11:36:39 <conspicuous>	lies
Dec 16 11:36:45 <np101137>	no, hes smarter then the person who was going to say that
Dec 16 11:36:47 <DiegoMax>	ramm is smart, agreed
Dec 16 11:36:53 <tyrion-mx>	is it possibile to not burn leo and instead put it into a partition and boot from that partition?
Dec 16 11:37:03 <Sadie>	np101137: perhaps if the started acting "normal" they would be ok?
Dec 16 11:37:14 <Sadie>	i remember the rare occasion ramm acted normal
Dec 16 11:37:18 <Sadie>	he was a really nice guy
Dec 16 11:37:19 <kevin_4e>	is the site failing to load for anyone else?
Dec 16 11:37:28 <DiegoMax>	maybe it was hacked
Dec 16 11:37:29 <kevin_4e>	ramm is cool
Dec 16 11:37:31 <tyrion-mx>	or I must burn it anyway?
Dec 16 11:37:32 <DiegoMax>	...
Dec 16 11:37:36 <conspicuous>	alright.
Dec 16 11:37:50 <conspicuous>	with all this ramm is cool nonsense flying around, I am trying to figure out exactly what one of you retards did.
Dec 16 11:38:04 <mac-mini>	kevin_4e, yes
Dec 16 11:38:05 <np101137>	conspicuous: I MIGHT AS WELL PASTEBN THE LOGS
Dec 16 11:38:07 <np101137>	woops
Dec 16 11:38:07 <mac-mini>	failing to load
Dec 16 11:38:08 <np101137>	caps
Dec 16 11:38:09 <conspicuous>	KK
Dec 16 11:38:18 <conspicuous>	THAT WOULD BE GOOD NP.