[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:03] <BlackDon> mind to take you an interview for #UnderNet15 ?
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:04] <FrieT> meh, i don't "mind"
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] <FrieT> altho i don't see how a little noobie like me can say anything insightful ;)
[11:28] <09BlackDon> * Logging FrieT to 'logs\FrieT.UnderNet.log'
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] <BlackDon> you're an official (abuser) ;P so you have a word to say
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:05] <BlackDon> since when ?;) when did you join undernet?
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] <FrieT> join or be active on it :]
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] <BlackDon> join
[11:28] <09BlackDon> [13:06] <BlackDon> your very first day on undernet
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] <FrieT> wow, good question. i have been idling on undernet for quite a few years. before we started the company, so i guess that should be around 12 years now
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] <FrieT> but i only idled on it
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] <FrieT> to keep in touch with some people who were fond of it - i was not :)
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:07] <BlackDon> you're an old timer
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] <BlackDon> why undernet, and DUNNOWHAT.irc
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] <BlackDon> ?
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:08] <FrieT> i'm no old timer by most standards, i just happened to know some people who were old timers and got me here to occasionally chat with them
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] <FrieT> i never personally cared that much for it, since all i saw were politics and cocky people :) i was looking in the wrnog places :)
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] <FrieT> wrong*
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] <BlackDon> what made you got involved in official stuff. you're an oper. since when/how /
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:09] <BlackDon> ?
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] <FrieT> i've been an oper since elsene* linked up again, since i sponsor / administer its network, i figured it would be handy to fix network level stuff and know what is going on in here
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] <FrieT> i still wasn't active
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] <FrieT> i became active because of some poor greek user asking me for help a good month or 2 ago :)
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] <FrieT> then i noticed some normal, non-cocky people were here as well. ;)
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:10] <BlackDon> how do you find undernet?
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:11] <FrieT> well, my views of it have changed radically. I used to think of it as, well, politics and nothing much more than that
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:11] <FrieT> but i've come to know some very caring people
[11:29] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> it's still politics on most levels of course, but that's on a lot of networks
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> and it's needed too
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <BlackDon> by the way. about people. this interview is for undernet15.com and #UnderNet15
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <BlackDon> do you find huggins as a clown ?:)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> he's definately a clown!
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> which means
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <BlackDon> a good one?
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> well
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <BlackDon> you know batman
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <BlackDon> the movie..;)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:12] <FrieT> he's more of a standup comedian in a sense
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] <FrieT> he tries to tackle some obvious but unspoken problems
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] <FrieT> on the other hand, on a personal level, we can be serious as well
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] <BlackDon> official question:Do you think he's Competing abit against user-com?
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:13] <FrieT> so he's much like a clown in that regard, since a clown is only a clown when on stage.
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <FrieT> Hmm, I'll try not to feed the trolls :-)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <BlackDon> a'right then;)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <FrieT> let's see
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <BlackDon> do you consider that some things must be changed around?
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <FrieT> well i'll still answer that Q tho ;)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:14] <BlackDon> awesome;)
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:15] <FrieT> You might view it as competing, but it's not the reason why he gets involved
[11:30] <09BlackDon> [13:15] <FrieT> usercom have to deal with politics
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] <FrieT> they can't go around and say whatever they want
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] <FrieT> a user can
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:15] <FrieT> he now realises that, I think / hope (told him a hundred times :)
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] <FrieT> I regret the fact that usercom isn't planning an event of their own anymore
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] <BlackDon> its what I think too. this thing got way too deep into fights. shouldt be a competition
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] <FrieT> since there's an informative part as well. not just a fun part. huggins is good for the fun and organising that - usercom has more ties to the official stuff.
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:16] <FrieT> well, most competition is healthy - it just shouldn't get this ugly.
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:17] <FrieT> but then again, there's not much i can tell about the details, i'm afraid. Suffice to say i don't like the outcome, i'd rather have seen 2 events coexisting
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:17] <BlackDon> you said you're new around. not quite, but..does your plans include undernet in the future? since you know how things roll around
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:18] <FrieT> Well, i've committed to quite a few projects, including usercom - so it'd be quite backwards of me to not include it in my future
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:19] <FrieT> obviously i'm past the old views i had about undernet by now
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:19] <BlackDon> glad to hear. we're the second irc network, after quakenet. some said that we're half populated by drones and bots. what's your opinion regarding this issue
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:20] <FrieT> well, i'd love to hear who does NOT say we're half populated by drones ;-)
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:20] <FrieT> My opinion is that there's very committed people working on those issues
[11:31] <09BlackDon> [13:21] <BlackDon> sensitive question: will they act, and let us fall from top3 ?
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] <FrieT> which is good enough for me, since it will continue being worked on
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] <FrieT> I personally don't care about the top ranking..
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] <FrieT> My IRC roots lie in now defunc networks
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:21] <FrieT> who topped at 200 users
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] <FrieT> so i used to be happy with top 1000 :)
[11:32] <09Huggins> [11:31] <Hjuler> sure
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] <FrieT> If the network becomes a better place for users to be in
[11:32] <09Huggins> quick
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:22] <FrieT> then i don't care about its ranking usercount-wise
[11:32] <09Huggins> go for it
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:23] <BlackDon> that's interesting and also wise ;) are we gonna catch a 20 aniversary of undernet ?
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:23] <FrieT> sure we are. Even though there are flamers and trolls around, that doesn't mean they don't have the best interests of the network in mind
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] <FrieT> hang on, pc troubs
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] <FrieT> 5sec:)
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:24] <BlackDon> someone hax0red FrieT
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:25] <BlackDon> *G*
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] <FrieT> back
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] <FrieT> no, i'm on wifi, logs are being written over SMB
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] <FrieT> pretty slow :)
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:27] <FrieT> since i'm in too many chans
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:28] <FrieT> soo regarding if it'll last 5 years more
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:28] <FrieT> yeah, sure. too many committed people, even if some don't look like it, they are
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] <BlackDon> people change, so do committees
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] <FrieT> it may not be in the top 3 by then, but that's another story obviously.
[11:32] <09BlackDon> [13:29] <BlackDon> do you think that there are major things that should be added, as improvements
[11:33] <09Huggins> Ok interview Hjuler, like Now please :-)
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:29] <BlackDon> ?
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> very personal opinion, haven't ever spoken to people about it, but i figure we need way more local operator
[11:33] <09Huggins> damn dude
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> s
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> to keep more in touch with the userbase
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> and that's not a big change, it's just a mindset
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> irc operators are supposed to only care for network issues
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> but the network is built out of a few servers
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:30] <FrieT> and 100k users
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] <FrieT> i think the users outrank the servers :)
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] * BlackDon is totally free *G*
[11:33] <09BlackDon> [13:31] <BlackDon> j/k
[11:33] <09BlackDon> I msg'ed him!