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Nov 03 11:18:50 <TheLetterE> "<zvook> you suck as operators, kids", shouldnt he go too?
Nov 03 11:19:02 <ST47> zvook - not sure - he's not as new as the other one
Nov 03 11:30:19 <Swatjester> fail op is suck at kids?
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Nov 03 11:37:42 * zvook (n=me@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net) has joined #wikimedia-ops
Nov 03 11:38:17 <TheLetterE> zvook?
Nov 03 11:38:42 <zvook> unban me please. White_Cat is not responding to msg.
Nov 03 11:38:54 <zvook> #wikipedia.
Nov 03 11:38:58 <ST47> In all honesty
Nov 03 11:39:00 <ST47> I'd rather not
Nov 03 11:39:06 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to White_Cat
Nov 03 11:39:09 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to TheLetterE
Nov 03 11:39:12 * White_Cat sets ban on *!*@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net
Nov 03 11:39:14 <-- White_Cat has kicked zvook from #wikimedia-ops (Cast In The Name Of God... Ye Not Guilty.........)
Nov 03 11:39:14 * ST47 waves
Nov 03 11:39:24 * White_Cat removes channel operator status from White_Cat
Nov 03 11:39:26 <KFP> >_<
Nov 03 11:39:26 <TheLetterE> too fast White Cat
Nov 03 11:39:29 <kmccoy> I'm trying to find what he did.
Nov 03 11:39:31 * TheLetterE removes channel operator status from TheLetterE
Nov 03 11:39:38 <White_Cat> I am not even trying
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Nov 03 11:39:54 <White_Cat> I was watching Star Trek TOS 1x04
Nov 03 11:40:37 <TheLetterE> [MSG] <zvook> are these people for real?
Nov 03 11:40:42 <ST47> ;)
Nov 03 11:40:53 <TheLetterE> uhh /ignore!
Nov 03 11:40:54 <ST47> more wr trolls.
Nov 03 11:41:04 * Riana is now known as Riana|Away
Nov 03 11:41:27 <TheLetterE> how do i stop ignoring
Nov 03 11:41:37 <ST47> /unignore ?
Nov 03 11:41:48 <TheLetterE> yeah
Nov 03 11:41:53 <TheLetterE> i ignored him
Nov 03 11:41:56 <TheLetterE> but i get
Nov 03 11:42:01 <TheLetterE> *** Now ignoring !*@*
Nov 03 11:42:02 <TheLetterE> lol
Nov 03 11:42:07 <ST47> oops.
Nov 03 11:42:16 <ST47> (That's ok, it won't hit anything)
Nov 03 11:42:55 <kmccoy> ... seriously, what did zvook do?
Nov 03 11:43:09 <kmccoy> Not only to deserve a ban from #wikipedia, but also one from here?
Nov 03 11:43:23 <TheLetterE> <zvook> you suck as operators, kids
Nov 03 11:43:43 <KFP> ...And... ?
Nov 03 11:43:49 <kmccoy> I'm looking through my logs, and I don't see any examples of misbehaviour other than that line. In fact, he's been a pretty useful contributor.
Nov 03 11:44:37 <TheLetterE> *** White_Cat has kicked zvook from #wikipedia [Cast In The Name Of God... Ye Not Guilty.........]
Nov 03 11:46:02 <Gambit> hehe
Nov 03 11:46:44 <kmccoy> ... seriously? You're banning people from #wikipedia for saying a simple thing like that? And then you're ignoring them and insulting them in private message, and kickbanning them from here when they come to find out what's going on?
Nov 03 11:47:44 * TheLetterE is going to unban from here and invite them in.
Nov 03 11:47:48 <TheLetterE> Is that okay?
Nov 03 11:48:00 <TheLetterE> so he has a chance to speak
Nov 03 11:48:07 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to ST47
Nov 03 11:48:17 * ST47 removes ban on *!*@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net
Nov 03 11:48:19 -dircbot/#wikimedia-ops- Ban[1170] *!*@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net in #Wikimedia-Ops set by White_Cat!i=EVA@wikimedia/White-Cat on 2007-11-02 23:38:47 for "" which affected zvook!n=me@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net has been removed. It expired on 2007-11-03 02:38:47. It was removed by ST47!n=st47@wikipedia/ST47
Nov 03 11:48:24 <TheLetterE> invited
Nov 03 11:48:52 * KFP is listening to Dream Theater - Images and Words - The Miracle and the Sleeper.
Nov 03 11:48:54 <White_Cat> do as you wish
Nov 03 11:49:07 <White_Cat> I'll be watching Star Trek TOS 1x04
Nov 03 11:49:13 * animum wonders if KFP ever listened to an American classic...
Nov 03 11:49:18 * zvook (n=me@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net) has joined #wikimedia-ops
Nov 03 11:49:21 <animum> ...Thriller - Michael Jackson
Nov 03 11:49:22 <kmccoy> Has he done anything in the past? I'm looking through my logs and don't see anything...
Nov 03 11:49:23 <TheLetterE> Hey zvook
Nov 03 11:49:26 <zvook> hello again
Nov 03 11:49:32 <TheLetterE> kmccoy: Not that I can see
Nov 03 11:49:54 <TheLetterE> zvook: Explain your story :)
Nov 03 11:49:57 <KFP> Hmm, animum.
Nov 03 11:50:16 <zvook> ST47 banned a user who joined and said maybe three lines
Nov 03 11:50:21 <zvook> without dialogue
Nov 03 11:50:32 <zvook> I said, "you suck as operators, kids."
Nov 03 11:50:37 <ST47> As one should, based on the fact that the user was a troll.
Nov 03 11:50:41 <AntiSpamMeta> High risk threat [#wikipedia]: barIt0n3 - ctcp-dcc; ping Martinp23, Gracenotes, Karlprof, SWATJester, Eagle-101, mike42, troubled, Daniel-Bryant, AndrewB, Cbrown1023, Mbimmler, Fabexplosive, TheLetterE, tomaw, ST47, Krimpet, dave2, stylus, Sean_William, seanw, njan, Golbez, skenmy, Majorly, kloeri, alindeman, AfterDeath, amidaniel, Ral315, and Pilotguy
Nov 03 11:50:41 <zvook> White_Cat kickbanned me.
Nov 03 11:51:20 <zvook> immediately.
Nov 03 11:51:30 <zvook> End of story.
Nov 03 11:51:42 <White_Cat> http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=13538&hl=
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Nov 03 11:52:12 <White_Cat> same people
Nov 03 11:52:14 <White_Cat> End of story.
Nov 03 11:52:20 <zvook> same as who?
Nov 03 11:52:55 <zvook> i am not involved with wikipediareview.
Nov 03 11:53:11 <ST47> He means the trolls I banne
Nov 03 11:53:12 <ST47> d
Nov 03 11:53:16 <kmccoy> White_Cat, who is zvook in relation to that page?
Nov 03 11:55:32 <kmccoy> Christ. Someone unban him and spray some pride-repellent in #wikipedia. He made a single negative comment about your opping styles. That maybe warrants a warning, and at most a momentary quiet. Certainly not this.
Nov 03 11:55:44 <zvook> actually for completeness sake, not end of story:
Nov 03 11:55:57 <zvook> i msged white_cat "Grow up."
Nov 03 11:56:07 <zvook> white_cat msged:
Nov 03 11:56:12 -dircbot/#wikimedia-ops- Ban[1167] *!*@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net in #Wikipedia set by White_Cat!i=EVA@wikimedia/White-Cat on 2007-11-02 23:19:15 for "Troll fest member" which affected zvook!n=me@86-42-90-189.b-ras1.blp.dublin.eircom.net has been removed. It expired on 2007-11-03 23:19:15. It was removed by ST47!n=st47@wikipedia/ST47
Nov 03 11:56:18 <zvook> <White_Cat> Hello. This is an automated proxy-checking message. Please wait while your messages are being validated...
Nov 03 11:56:18 <zvook> <White_Cat> We apologize. The idiot filter has detected that you are in fact an idiot. Message rejected.
Nov 03 11:56:33 <zvook> i replied:
Nov 03 11:56:38 <Gambit> hehe
Nov 03 11:56:42 <zvook> <zvook> This is not some social channel. This is #wikipedia and you should not kick and insult on a whim.
Nov 03 11:56:43 <zvook> <zvook> some reading for you: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines
Nov 03 11:56:43 <zvook> <zvook> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_guidelines/wikipedia/Operator_guidelines
Nov 03 11:56:46 <ST47> zvook: you're /invited to #wikipedia
Nov 03 11:56:50 <zvook> That's everything.
Nov 03 11:57:16 <Gambit> zvook, ban removed
Nov 03 12:00:07 <zvook> Really does not do wonders for wikipedia's reputation to have operators who act in that way in #wikipedia
Nov 03 12:00:09 <White_Cat> zvook do you have a question?
Nov 03 12:00:09 * Attic_Cat is now known as vishwin60|away
Nov 03 12:00:12 <White_Cat> If not please leave
Nov 03 12:00:32 <zvook> I was invited here.
Nov 03 12:00:40 * ChanServ gives channel operator status to TheLetterE
Nov 03 12:00:41 <White_Cat> this is a no idle channel
Nov 03 12:00:46 <ST47> and your business is complete
Nov 03 12:00:49 <ST47> Ahem, TheLetterE
Nov 03 12:00:50 <animum> This is for op discussion.
Nov 03 12:00:52 <animum> End of story.
Nov 03 12:00:54 <zvook> Your tone is overly curt and you are both hurt.
Nov 03 12:00:59 <animum> ...
Nov 03 12:01:00 <TheLetterE> ST47: I was going to remove
Nov 03 12:01:11 * TheLetterE removes channel operator status from ST47 TheLetterE
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Nov 03 12:01:16 <ST47> see :)
Nov 03 12:01:21 <animum> Well I was gonna do that.
Nov 03 12:01:23 <animum> :-p
Nov 03 12:01:24 <TheLetterE> but otherwise, he left manually ;)
Nov 03 12:01:38 <White_Cat> TheLetterE perfect sync?
Nov 03 12:01:39 <kmccoy> I am appalled at our behaviour here. :/
Nov 03 12:02:03 <TheLetterE> White_Cat: :P
Nov 03 12:02:20 <White_Cat> TheLetterE you active on wikipedia at all?
Nov 03 12:02:31 <TheLetterE> White_Cat: Yes, User:E
Nov 03 12:02:35 <TheLetterE> en.wp
Nov 03 12:02:40 <White_Cat> TheLetterE pm
Nov 03 12:03:06 <animum> kmccoy, there's no (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:BITE) equivalent for IRC. :-)
Nov 03 12:03:23 <kmccoy> I think this is the first time I've ever sided with the person complaining about the ops.
Nov 03 12:04:33 <kmccoy> animum, so what? This is basic decency and common sense. If this had happened in -en, I would have removed the access of everyone involved. I feel that strongly about it. I'm just really disappointed. I guess I'll go work on some other project or something.
Nov 03 12:05:33 <animum> kmccoy, I wasn't supporting it or anything; just stating the fact. :-)
Nov 03 12:06:01 <animum> (this is why I like -en better)
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Nov 03 12:08:42 <animum> Why not bbl?
Nov 03 12:09:08 <Gambit> :O
Nov 03 12:09:56 <animum> (re: last parenthetic statement; #wikipedia-en has less trolls, etc. than #wikipedia [again, not saying anything partisan, just pointing out a general pattern])
Nov 03 12:10:12 <animum> Well, time to vandal fight
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