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Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
<Shauna> !admin del tilde
<daIRC-bot> tilde is no longer a vHost admin.
<Shauna> !admin del ragnaparadise
<daIRC-bot> ragnaparadise is no longer a vHost admin.
<Shauna> !admin suspend talleh
<daIRC-bot> talleh has been suspended from the vHost service.
<Shauna> !admin suspend lfmbstyle
<daIRC-bot> lfmbstyle has been suspended from the vHost service.
Tilde says:
ah
Tilde says:
so
Tilde says:
i got fired completely?
Tilde says:
lol ok XD
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I guess, did you talk to her at all?
Tilde says:
no
Tilde says:
don't see her as "online"
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
uh
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
might want to drop off DaNet, then
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
drop into
Tilde says:
why?
Tilde says:
i got fired?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
well, Shauna offered a chance to talk the situation over with everyone involved.
Tilde says:
i asked you several times
Tilde says:
if she was talking
Tilde says:
>_<
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
because of my relatively unimportant position I have retained a spot on hostsetting
Tilde says:
so
Tilde says:
she's alive now then?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Yes.
Tilde says:
righto
Tilde says:
left a message
Tilde says:
no reply
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
no clue
Tilde says:
i find this entire thing
Tilde says:
bullcrap
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
last active message at 24 minutes past the hour
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
about 12 minutes ago
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
heh... there is some resemblance of missing you in the staff room o.O
Tilde says:
o.o?
Tilde says:
dairc?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
<Smoke> That's a point, where is Tilde?
<Smoke> I haven't seen her for ages.
<Smoke> Or been annoyed by her, for ages.
<DaMistress> she has not been around much
<Wolfdog> Last time i saw her she was in a fight with jenn
<Wolfdog> aka Noesis
Tilde says:
is
Tilde says:
wolfdog
Tilde says:
staff?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
he's half op in there
Tilde says:
oh
Tilde says:
god...
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I think he's a trainee
Tilde says:
seriously
Tilde says:
oh
Tilde says:
god
Tilde says:
>_<
Tilde says:
he got glined
Tilde says:
several times i beleive
Tilde says:
>.>
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
probably knows the right people.
Tilde says:
are they that despirate?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
well, smoke's been promoted to AS staff
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
they're 6 people short
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
<Shauna> meh
<Shauna> shes fired anyways
Tilde says:
well now i can say this
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
oookay, not a good sign
Tilde says:
shauna is one biased whore.
Tilde says:
there that had to get off my shoulders
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I'll stop quoting, then
Tilde says:
to shauna or?
Tilde says:
XD
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
eh? to you
Tilde says:
why?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I haven't said a word to shauna after she grudgedly said I could stay
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
it seems to upset you.
Tilde says:
oh
Tilde says:
it doesn't
Tilde says:
shauna just pisses me off
Tilde says:
because she's completely biased
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Well, her significant other IS the owner of the network that you're apparently competing with
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I'm not saying this entitles her to anything, I'm just saying her stance is at least understandable.
Tilde says:
i'm competing?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
in their eyes.
Tilde says:
lol at them.
Tilde says:
seren will be...
Tilde says:
pissed off
Tilde says:
XD
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
and seren sure as hell didn't help matters.
Tilde says:
what did he do then?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
didn't you say he was the one to actively pull people over to Toxin by the channelful?
Tilde says:
well
Tilde says:
yeah
Tilde says:
because he's pissed off at shauna
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
wasn't he in AS?
Tilde says:
yes
Tilde says:
he was
Tilde says:
still
Tilde says:
shauna is HORRIBLY biased
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I... think I'll have to side with DaIRC on this one, he's got access to sensitive stuff there.
Tilde says:
"yes dm joined but shes my friend she gets to stay"
"talleh joined but she's demoted"
Tilde says:
BIASED?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Well, DM was the only one that did discuss this with them
Tilde says:
well
Tilde says:
AFTERWARDS
Tilde says:
2 freaking hours
Tilde says:
before all hell broke loose
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
o.O just 2 hours? I thought it was at least 2 days
Tilde says:
no.
Tilde says:
two hours before everything happened
Tilde says:
she talked to them
Tilde says:
and she still opered up
Tilde says:
and gladly used her power to issue kills
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Oh. She had DaIRC's interests in mind first and foremost.
Tilde says:
right...
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I'm fairly certain she was killing appropriate targets.
Tilde says:
"/birthday kills"
Tilde says:
+/
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
sounds appropriate to me, ain't a proper birthday without one
Tilde says:
one issues glines for that.
Tilde says:
however
Tilde says:
HA HA @ DAIRC no bday kills on me.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I didn't get one either, I was practically asking for one >.>
Tilde says:
they planned to kill me for days
Tilde says:
ah well
Tilde says:
this should make paul happy
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
people can be so inconsiderate sometimes...
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
eh, this just means you can take over Toxin again
Tilde says:
i know.
Tilde says:
but lem
Tilde says:
lemming
Tilde says:
i don't even give a fuck i got fired
Tilde says:
i'm pissed off that they demoted talleh/serend/ect
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
aqua sounds oddly cheering right now
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Well honestly, what seren did was rather in poor taste
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Talleh is only suspended I believe because she hasn't had a chance to explain
Tilde says:
so?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
same with lfmb
Tilde says:
they didn't state that what they did
Tilde says:
was against rules
Tilde says:
in the first place
Tilde says:
since they did not MAKE them before hand
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
No, the rules were there before
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I wasn't aware that they applied to other IRC servers, however.
Tilde says:
no
Tilde says:
the rules were AS QUOTED
Tilde says:
"game servers"
Tilde says:
and for as i know
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
but they did make clear that staff positions on private servers was a dangerous mix
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
yes.
Tilde says:
IRC != game servers.
Tilde says:
the rules shauna made
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
like I said, I did not know that they applied to IRC servers.
Tilde says:
stated "/GAME SERVER/"
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Tilde
Tilde says:
litteraly, it said game servers lemming
Tilde says:
not irc
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
I'm fairly certain Talleh and lfmb are perfectly able to explain themselves.
Tilde says:
still
Tilde says:
that's like
Tilde says:
"well you're not allowed to eat cowmeat"

Tilde says:
and afterwards
Tilde says:
"you're not allowed to eat pigs meat either, you're fired"
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
shauna is not unreasonable, if they can explain themselves I'm certain their positions will be not be compromised.
Tilde says:
then
Tilde says:
why is dm not demoted?
Tilde says:
oh right she's shaunas friend
Tilde says:
i call that very unreasonably
Tilde says:
unreasonable*
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Well, she's a friend to the point where she can apparently auth herself as shauna.
Tilde says:
that makes it "ok" for her to break rules
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
and she apparently knows them in person as well.
Tilde says:
it's biased.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
o.O if Delta broke a rule would he have to be removed as owner?
Tilde says:
is dm the owner?
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
bias can't be helped.
Tilde says:
then if they "exempt" one
Tilde says:
they should exempt every single one of them
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
no, but you sure as hell wouldn't demote your real life friend over something like that one
Tilde says:
uhm
Tilde says:
i wouldn't, i would've treated everyone the same
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Then again, you'd probably wouldn't give a shit what other people do outside your network.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
my personal opinion is that they shouldn't care what goes on beyond their network if it does not affect them.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
but working AS does mean make that line a bit blurry.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
since it goes under 'might affect them'
Tilde says:
http://drstein.chatadventista.com/
Tilde says:
guy that made adminserv.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
yeah, and he ain't handing the code out to every joe out there
Tilde says:
no
Tilde says:
he's selling it
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
which according to you, Delta is taking actions against
Tilde says:
however, what i'm using and what i received from the guy
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
so I'm guessing at the very least that Delta believes there may be a security issue.
Tilde says:
doesn't even look alike anymore
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
look at it this way, if you managed to find a bug in the AS code
Tilde says:
"a" bug?
Tilde says:
XD
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
you can (not WOULD) easily ruin DA over it.
Tilde says:
"a" bug? XD!!!!
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
and where would Delta be in all this?
Tilde says:
there are
Tilde says:
HUNDREDS of bugs
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
even one is bad enough
Tilde says:
and so many of them
Tilde says:
easily exploitable
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
see?
Tilde says:
actually
Tilde says:
i might tell the idiot brs on how to exploit it
Tilde says:
>_>
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
and staff that operate that code are just as dangerous to have roaming free
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
that's just being petty.
Tilde says:
so?
Tilde says:
being biased
Tilde says:
is just as bad
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
is human
Tilde says:
well
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
You have biases as well, Tilde.
Tilde says:
revenge is human aswell.
Lemming [Back to feeling old.] says:
Yes, but let's face it, even IF things work out with talleh and lfmb, your attack is going to put them in a bad light again

AAAAAND

† Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said:
mmmm well i dunno theres not much to talk about is there? you havent even hit a spot in the top 20 of ppl in support in about a month and you had the other irc.. i guess u pretty much know your access has been removed
Tilde said:
guess that's it then
† Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said:
guess so
Tilde said:
then, what about talleh? ect?
† Shauna - Shalleh † *komen said:
lemming was allowed to stay on due to his limited involvement in the issue, talleh, lfmb and angus were/are offered vop positions but no longer have full staff access. same applies to seren if i could talk to him