14:24:33| guillomovitch> AIGLX is workin ?
14:24:47| oden> no idea...
14:25:07| guillomovitch> ho, I thought you just added it :P
14:27:19| boiko> guillomovitch: I've added to the topic ;)
14:27:41| guillomovitch> boiko: does it work on x86_64 too ?
14:27:42| misc> there is no xgl package ?
14:27:55| boiko> misc: not yet
14:28:02| oden> /whatis AIGLX?
14:28:18| boiko> misc: but I will talk to padbol this week about that ;)
14:28:25| boiko> oden: Accelerated Indirect GLX
14:28:39| guillomovitch> oden: in short, translucy effects etc...
14:28:46| helio_paris> oden: yet another blinking graphics on your chrsthmas tree desktop :-)
14:28:46| misc> boiko: ok, not that i will use it, but i tought it was done as no one is asking you everyday about the inclusion
14:29:05| oden> helio_paris: i see..., candy ass stuff...
14:29:13| guillomovitch> :)
14:29:22| boiko> misc: they have AIGLX for trying out ;)
14:30:15| guillomovitch> boiko: in short, what do I need to try it ?
14:31:24| boiko> guillomovitch: install compiz, have a working DRI driver
14:31:42| guillomovitch> i did it on my i586 laptop
14:31:53| guillomovitch> but it seems to be an alternate windows manager
14:32:04| guillomovitch> meaning I have to configure gnome to run it instead of metacity
14:33:01| spturtle> AIGLX sucks, I couldn't get ut2003 to display on my ibook (:
14:36:12| boiko> spturtle: why?
14:37:15| spturtle> it gave some error
14:37:38| boiko> spturtle: which error?
14:37:44| guillomovitch> "some"
14:37:59| spturtle> if I would remember I'd tell you
14:38:00| guillomovitch> as 'any' key
14:38:26| spturtle> anyway, I should first try some nicer games like armagetron and neverball (:
14:38:37| boiko> spturtle: heheh
14:38:53| boiko> spturtle: I don't expect to have a good performance on AIGLX for games
14:39:06| guillomovitch> spturtle: there is a guy on #plf asking for help with descent, if you can help him
14:40:33| _ranger_> the src.rpm does not need to be ...
14:40:46| spturtle> guillomovitch: I'm at work, not much time :(
14:42:32| guillomovitch> spturtle: I don't think he need immediate help, just someone with technical skills to help him understand why it works under suze,
and not under mdv
14:42:40| guillomovitch> BTW, he may ask the question here directly
14:43:02| groundstate> compiz fails for me... compiz: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
14:43:15| guillomovitch> Zombie: hey, you're here too :)
14:44:58| spturtle> guillomovitch: the only way I know to change the window manager for gnome is to put export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/foowm in .profile
14:45:41| guillomovitch> thanks, I'll try it
14:46:05| guillomovitch> BTW, current gnome 2.15 is supposed to have fancy effects support too
14:46:12| guillomovitch> but i couldn't find how to activate them
14:46:56| groundstate> guilomovitch: there's an option in metacity's gconf to activate it
14:47:47| guillomovitch> oh yes, I failed to spot it
14:47:59| boiko> guillomovitch: yes, it seems it is not working very well with AIGLX though :(
14:48:06| guillomovitch> activating it kills metacity :)
14:49:45| guillomovitch> metacity: symbol lookup error: metacity: undefined symbol: glXBindTexImageEXT
14:50:17| groundstate> boiko: how do you start compiz? $ compiz --indirect-rendering --replace ??
14:50:53| boiko> guillomovitch: are you using binary drivers? or do you have your LD_LIBRARY_PATH set to point at the fglrx libGL?
14:51:00| guillomovitch> yes, nvidia drivers
14:51:05| boiko> groundstate: compiz --indirect-rendering --strict-binding gconf
14:51:31| boiko> groundstate: but the --replace is not working (I have to fix that), so you need to kill the window manager before
14:52:07| padbol> boiko: compiz works on cooker with AIGLX ?
14:52:16| boiko> padbol: yes,
14:52:23| guillomovitch> and /usr/lib64/nvidia/ is in ld.so.conf
14:53:02| padbol> boiko: with r300 ?
14:53:06| boiko> padbol: btw, I'm right beside arnaud patard
14:53:21| boiko> padbol: not sure about r300... I haven't tested r300 yet
14:55:07| guillomovitch> stange, glXBindTexImageEXT belongs to /usr/lib64/libGL.so.1.2
14:55:25| guillomovitch> I wonder why metacity is unable to use it
14:56:19| boiko> guillomovitch: do you have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set?
14:56:28| guillomovitch> no
14:56:38| boiko> guillomovitch: weird
14:56:50| boiko> guillomovitch: try running ldconfig as root
14:58:15| groundstate> using metacity's compositing manager I just see blue (i810)
14:58:33| guillomovitch> same result
14:58:59| boiko> groundstate: yes, that's why I say it is not working on metacity ;)
14:59:36| groundstate> oh well, back to xcompmgr
14:59:50| boiko> groundstate: compiz
14:59:57| guillomovitch> xcompmgr works for me, but it's dawn slow
15:00:10| groundstate> boiko: no, compiz gives me the error I listed above
15:00:28| groundstate> GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing
15:00:55| boiko> groundstate: running with --indirect-rendering?
15:01:20| boiko> guillomovitch: xcompmgr doesn't use AIGLX at all, it just uses XRender
15:01:34| boiko> guillomovitch: which card do you have there?
15:01:40| groundstate> boiko: yes, compiz --indirect-rendering --strict-binding
15:01:57| guillomovitch> boiko: nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 285]
15:02:23| boiko> guillomovitch: well, xcompmgr will be slow there. There is no EXA acceleration in the upstream driver
15:02:50| boiko> groundstate: it should be taking the libGL from somewhere else, it doesn't make sense
15:03:09| guillomovitch> boiko: for all nvidia cards, or specifically for the quadro one ?
15:03:12| groundstate> boiko: stock mdv cooker, i810
15:03:43| boiko> guillomovitch: for all nv cards (the EXA implementation is not yet finished, and AFAIK there noone working on this right now :(
15:04:06| boiko> groundstate: have you disabled AIGLX, composite or damage in the xorg.conf?
15:04:24| guillomovitch> so, for once nvidia cards are the not the most desirable ones :) ?
15:04:56| groundstate> boiko: enabled AIGLX and composite... there is no mention of "damage" in my xorg.conf
15:11:24| saispo> boiko: but when you try to kill metacity, it will be relaunched immediatly
15:12:21| guillomovitch> saispo: try spturtle advice "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/foowm in .profile"
15:13:50| saispo> thks guillomovitch
15:14:04| guillomovitch> you're welcome, I don't even know if it works :P
15:14:35| saispo> :) on my laptop i use nv
15:18:14| groundstate> grr, I spent all night building g/f a new computer, and the BIOS won't power up
15:22:27| guillomovitch> if you spend your nights with computers instead of with your g/f, you're in trouble anyway :)
15:22:38| boiko> :)