07:46:45 <@Dolemite> I was sitting next to skydog when he told the fox to stop the car, get out and start waving his hands in the air
07:47:06 <@dc0de> well, the fox shouldn't have kept shutting off the AP.
07:47:26 <@Dolemite> bitch bitch bitch
07:47:49 <@ladymerlin> the AP was not shut off
07:47:56 <@dc0de> it kinda makes it hard to connect via http, when the ap kept dropping.
07:47:58 <@ladymerlin> not once
07:48:04 <@Dolemite> You guys need to learn how to use nmap properly ;)
07:48:13 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: not once, but 100's of times...
07:48:16 <@ladymerlin> no
07:48:19 <@ladymerlin> it was never shut off
07:48:27 <@dc0de> perhaps not intentionally
07:48:29 <@SkyDog_> The AP wasn't shut off. I have his word.
07:48:34 <@SkyDog_> not intentionally?
07:48:46 <@SkyDog_> I checked the equipment before it was ever placed inthe car
07:48:57 <@SkyDog_> Then we tested it before he drove off.
07:49:14 <@SkyDog_> We didn't cheat, we didn't make it impossible to find.
07:49:14 <@Dolemite> I think we have a clear case of someone placing blame elsewhere for their own inadequacies
07:49:15 <@dc0de> hey, all I'm saying is that when we had connection with the AP, it would drop... not fade away, simply drop.
07:49:31 <@ladymerlin> you also used nmap with servace pack 2
07:49:49 <@SkyDog_> and I am telling you it was a new linksys AP, with a High quality inverter, and my guy was driving, not playing with it.
07:49:53 <@dc0de> we'd have it strong, and then it would simply *poof*, drop
07:50:04 <@ladymerlin> it was not shut off
07:50:06 <@dc0de> perhaps the dc coupling was shaky... I don't know
07:50:34 <@dc0de> but from our standpoint, I'm just telling you, that the perception of the AP was that it was not consistantly outputting a signal
07:50:41 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : I think you should just have the fox take a break and go eat breakfast at Monell's. I still doubt the teams could find it.
07:50:54 <@SkyDog_> the DC coupling was shaky? funny how the guys that were sitting behind him next to riverfront park had a great signal, but didn't have
the knowledge to use nmap and make it work.
07:50:56 <@dc0de> perhaps this year, you could tape the power connector to the AP.
07:51:24 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: and I am telling you the AP is sitting on top of my AV rack, providing the signal I am using now.
07:51:26 <@Dolemite> strap the AP to a plate of country ham
07:51:52 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: I'm not saying that the loss of signal was intentional.
07:52:01 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Yes you are.
07:52:10 <@SkyDog_> You're saying I didn't do my job correctly.
07:52:13 <@dc0de> "perhaps not intentionally"
07:52:18 <@dc0de> but from our standpoint, I'm just telling you, that the perception of the AP was that it was not consistantly outputting a signal
07:52:35 <@ladymerlin> yes it was
07:52:41 <@SkyDog_> You're saying that I didn't place my equipment so that it would function no matter what happened inside the cabin.
07:52:44 <@SkyDog_> I did.
07:52:47 <@dc0de> ok...
07:53:06 <@SkyDog_> No, I didn't tape the AP to his leather interior. I placed it where it would not move in the seat.
07:53:20 <@dc0de> was the power connector taped to the ap?
07:53:34 <@ladymerlin> it wasent streched so that it needed to be
07:53:43 <@brimstone> wow, talk about being sore losers...
07:53:46 <@ladymerlin> sorry dc0de it was on the whole time
07:54:02 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: do you have the output logs to prove it?
07:54:07 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: No, it was not. it was not necessary to tape the power cord into the AP. it's a friction fit.
07:54:16 <@SkyDog_> output logs from WHAT?!?!
07:54:19 <@ladymerlin> why the fuck would i need them?
07:54:34 <@ladymerlin> we know our guy didnt cheat
07:54:44 <@Dolemite> Yeah, lemme open up vi and create some output logs for ya...
07:55:16 <@dc0de> hey, I'm just saying, that if it were an AP of mine, it'd be running OpenWRT or similar, and it would have logs to show that it was
functioning the whole time.
07:55:22 <@ladymerlin> right
07:55:28 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Well, it wasn't.
07:55:32 <@ladymerlin> just like you would shut it off when your contestents got to close
07:55:43 <@SkyDog_> it wasn't your race to run, and I chose the linksys for a reason.
07:55:45 <@ladymerlin> i do remember that being your plan for the atlanta wifi race
07:55:49 <@ladymerlin> that you nevere did
07:55:51 <@dc0de> and if I were running the race, i'd also have the route of the fox gps tracked so it could be mapped for the pleasure of the crowds
07:55:57 <@SkyDog_> It was an OFF THE SHELF router, and not modified in ANY way.
07:56:13 <@SkyDog_> That way I couldn't be accused of modifying it... Well, I guess not.
07:56:22 <@SkyDog_> Now I am accused of not Taping the connector in.
07:56:24 <@dc0de> I am not being accusitory
07:56:29 <@ladymerlin> yes you are
07:56:42 <@dc0de> fine... whatever... you can take things out of context all you like.
07:56:47 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: What? You'd provide the GPS tracking of the fox? You're insame?
07:57:03 <@dc0de> yes, for the POST RACE wrap up.
07:57:07 <@Dolemite> You could do a tracker for this year and show it afterwards.
07:57:07 <@SkyDog_> you'd provide realtime telemetry of the fox?
07:57:14 <@SkyDog_> I will do just that.
07:57:23 <@SkyDog_> and we can all see where you still didn't catch him.
07:57:26 <@SkyDog_> Deal?
07:57:28 <@Dolemite> Your Garmin etrex does that, doesn't it?
07:57:34 <@SkyDog_> yes it does.
07:57:34 <@Dolemite> If not my Rhino 120 will
07:57:53 <@SkyDog_> along with usa photo maps, I can provide all of the data points.
07:58:05 <@dc0de> do you have that data for last year
07:58:33 <@ladymerlin> why so you can continue to complain about it?
07:58:38 <@SkyDog_> No, I didn't in my wildest dreams think I would need to provide telemetry for the fox a year later.
07:58:53 <@SkyDog_> had I thought I would need to defend everywhere the fox drove, yes, I would have.
07:58:53 <@ladymerlin> deal with it, you lost last year
07:58:59 <@dc0de> and ladymerlin, if you recall, we didn't do a wifi race at outerzone, as there wasn't enough interest, and we yes, we discussed shutting
off the AP, but when we discussed it, we realized that would be impossible to find.
07:59:12 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: no, we didn't lose, we just didn't win.
07:59:14 <@ladymerlin> there was interst
07:59:15 <@dc0de> nobody did.
07:59:19 <@SkyDog_> Funny how I had guys sitting behind the car, and they could describe it to me. and STILL they didn't get it.
07:59:20 <@ladymerlin> you just decided not to show up
07:59:40 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: I did show up. and I did have gear, and I wasn't running it.
07:59:44 <@SkyDog_> But I was able to do it in the lobby of the hotel. So was B3ast, from the parking lot, with his smartphone.
07:59:48 <@ladymerlin> you didnt show up till 6that night
07:59:50 <@dc0de> I was told that there wasn't enough interest
07:59:58 <@ladymerlin> had soemthing to do that morning
08:00:05 <@ladymerlin> trust me i remeber
08:00:07 <@Dolemite> Man I guess next year when I'm no longer running PN I'll have to get my son and my wife in the car with me to win the wifi race
08:00:17 <@Dolemite> Team Suburbia
08:00:20 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: yes, I had to take my son one of his functions.
08:00:25 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: You put a shield on the antenna! that cut down the signal direction beyond HALF of what it should have been.
08:00:28 <@ladymerlin> yeah hence you were a no show
08:00:59 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: actually, no, the shield doubles the signal strength in one direction.
08:01:09 <@ladymerlin> uhhh
08:01:13 <@ladymerlin> one direction....
08:01:16 <@SkyDog_> There was NO way there could have been the race, the computer with the starting clue wasn't even working.
08:01:17 <@ladymerlin> i see a problem there
08:01:39 <@SkyDog_> dude! you cut the signal direction in half plus some!
08:02:07 <@SkyDog_> meaning you could only see the fox if you were behind him, or off axis by say 50 degrees.
08:02:08 <@dc0de> ok... and did you actually see the ap? did you run the antenna tests and link tests on it?
08:02:22 <@SkyDog_> no, NOBODY did, cause the race never happened.
08:02:28 <@SkyDog_> I saw the AP.
08:02:35 <@dc0de> exactly, so you're now bitching about something that didn't happen.
08:02:38 <@SkyDog_> I know how the sheet metal was bent.
08:03:07 <@SkyDog_> if you wanna bitch about how I didn't tape the power cord in, then start your own fucking wifi race and MAN UP>
08:03:11 <@ladymerlin> no were proveing a point, it was you that wanted to make a race impossable to win not skydog
08:03:15 <@dc0de> and I recall telling you that we could simply shear away the metal.
08:03:35 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: huh?
08:03:36 <@SkyDog_> shear it away when?
08:03:41 <@SkyDog_> during the race?
08:03:45 <@dc0de> no, before
08:03:49 <@SkyDog_> 5 mins before you started?
08:03:54 <@ladymerlin> you went event here to do the damn race
08:03:57 <@ladymerlin> there
08:04:00 <@SkyDog_> All of that was supposed to be done BEFORE you got there.
08:04:10 <@dc0de> because I was told there wasnt enough interest
08:04:14 <@ladymerlin> by who?
08:04:17 <@SkyDog_> BULLSHIT.
08:04:27 <@ladymerlin> we had people asking when it was starting
08:04:27 <@Dolemite> Ok, people, time to break it up
08:04:33 <@Dolemite> Or I start kickin'!
08:04:43 <@dc0de> there was only 1 team signed up, as I was told.
08:04:52 <@ladymerlin> right
08:05:01 <@ladymerlin> told cause you wernt even there
08:05:07 <@ladymerlin> so you wouldnt know
08:05:08 <@SkyDog_> they couldn't have done the race, the starting clue was trapped in the PC you left in my room, untested.
08:05:08 <@Dolemite> Can't we all just get along like good be0tches and h0ez?
08:05:17 <@SkyDog_> I am being a good hoez!
08:05:17 <@dc0de> sorry, I can only work on the information that was passed along to me via telephone.
08:05:27 <@SkyDog_> Then it was shadow's fault?
08:05:31 <@dc0de> Dolemite: I'm just clarifying what happened from my perspective.
08:05:32 <@Dolemite> ok, ZIP IT
08:05:37 <@ladymerlin> well if you were onsite that wouldnt be a problem now would it
08:05:40 <@SkyDog_> So, Dole, how about that cider?
08:05:42 <@Dolemite> You're all getting too worked up
08:05:48 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Tasted your batch yet?
08:05:54 <@SkyDog_> well, my nipples are hard....
08:05:57 <@dc0de> ladymerlin: I have a family too... sorry if that upset's your sensibilities
08:06:03 <@SkyDog_> Dunno if that is worked up...
08:06:09 <@ladymerlin> no your bailingon plans is the problem
08:06:17 * Dolemite pinches SkyDog_'s nipples
08:06:25 <@dc0de> so is that why the geekshoot was taken over?
08:06:36 <@ladymerlin> taken over??
08:06:37 <@dc0de> so that my name as the originator was stricken?
08:06:39 <@ladymerlin> by who?
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08:07:55 <@SkyDog_> So one time, at bandcamp...
08:08:05 <@Dolemite> I put a flute up Skydog's...
08:08:11 <@ladymerlin> lol
08:08:15 <@SkyDog_> HEY!
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08:08:31 <@Dolemite> Ready to move on, dc0de?
08:08:34 <@dc0de> ok... that's rude... even for Dolemite
08:08:54 <@SkyDog_> I was asked to back off, and I did.
08:08:56 <@Dolemite> No it's not. I told you to go to your corner and calm down. You refused and kept trying to get in the last word.
08:08:56 <@dc0de> what Dolemite, I can't ask about the geek shoot that I started three years ago being taken over?
08:09:09 <@ladymerlin> you didnt start it
08:09:27 <@dc0de> read your logs ladymerlin... I did start the geek shoot.
08:09:32 <@Dolemite> Zzzzzzip it
08:09:35 <@ladymerlin> nope
08:10:28 <@SkyDog_> So, what about those mets?
08:10:47 <@Dolemite> tomorrow night I'll be moving my pn0x0bian Pumpkin Ale into the secondary fermenter
08:10:56 <@SkyDog_> Killer.
08:10:59 <@Dolemite> we'll see how well it held the extra taste components
08:11:09 <@SkyDog_> I need to keg this stuff this weekend.
08:11:20 <@Dolemite> You still haven't kegged it!@#?$!@
08:11:33 <@SkyDog_> No, I ahve been busy.
08:11:38 * SkyDog_ kick the dirt.
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08:13:02 <@dc0de> well, I just hope that there are some people who are interested in the scavenger hunt, because we setup a great set of caches, and some
other stuff to find, and there's great prizes.
08:13:18 <@Dolemite> I think there will be a big interest in it
08:13:40 <@dc0de> Dolemite: sweet, because we've worked hard to try to make it a sucess...
08:13:46 <@SkyDog_> I think someninjamaster bought a GPS just to do the hunt.
08:13:52 <@Dolemite> werd
08:13:59 <@dc0de> and SkyDog_ thanks for your encouragement and ideas... we took them to heart.
08:14:02 <@Dolemite> too bad he'll be too busy running A/V to participate!
08:14:28 <@dc0de> and as far as the wifi race last year, I was telling you my PERCEPTION, not my belief... I have always taken you at your word.
08:14:37 <@dc0de> and I don't think that anyone cheated...
08:14:49 <@dc0de> so I'm sorry if some people took that the wrong way.
08:15:06 <@Dolemite> So yesterday the wife and I went to The Aquarium restaurant for lunch... cost us $90!
08:15:19 <@ladymerlin> they have good food
08:15:22 <@Dolemite> It sucked
08:15:24 <@dc0de> Dolemite: is that in Nashville?
08:15:29 <@Dolemite> yeah, it's in Nashville
08:15:32 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. and I wonder why I put forth the effort each year.
08:15:34 <@ladymerlin> the pasta i got was good
08:15:39 <@Dolemite> good thing it was a mystery shop
08:15:42 <@SkyDog_> $90? did it have a happy ending?
08:15:45 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: we had a great race last year.
08:16:03 <@dc0de> we just didn't find the fox... consistantly... I recall saying at the end, it still was a great time.