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- pcmacman
- Tuesday, October 9th, 2007 at 2:16:42am UTC
- 20:26 <Pici> wii = xp_killer = bleh
- 20:26 >>>> mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o LjL] by LjL
- 20:26 <gnomefreak> jrib: we set alot of bans on him
- 20:26 <gnomefreak> im going through them atm
- 20:27 <PriceChild> *points to /cs bans nick*
- 20:28 <gnomefreak> i have his not banned from #ubuntu in my paste
- 20:28 <gnomefreak> wii: 20:10 -!- 27 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@AMarigot-102-1-9-150.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr [by [email protected]/support/mneptok, 344967 secs ago]
- 20:28 <LjL> am i the only one who so often finds he's starting at google and thinking "what the hell were i going to search for?"
- 20:28 <gnomefreak> that is still set in #ubuntu
- 20:29 <jrib> LjL: you are not alone
- 20:29 <wii> gnomefreak: yes i tink it was mneptok that banned me
- 20:29 <gnomefreak> wii: i know he was one
- 20:30 <gnomefreak> wii: you do know you are banned from most if not all #ubuntu-* related channels due to your actions the other night
- 20:30 <wii> gnomefreak: but there was this other op that send me a pv saying i'll get another chance in ubuntu an he unbanned me
- 20:30 <gnomefreak> wii: its normally up to the person that banned you to remove it. what was the reason this other op gave?
- 20:32 <gnomefreak> wii: to be perfectly honest with you your actions that night were very bad and you knew it. and you shouldnt be unbanned at all for a while IMHO so i would really like to see what the reason was.
- 20:32 <gnomefreak> and if the other op did unban you why didnt he remove all bans on you
- 20:34 <gnomefreak> wii: we gave you a chance that night (someone unbanned you and within 2 minutes you got yourself banned again)
- 20:34 <wii> gnomefreak:why should he remove all when he didnt know.i was banned in ubuntu befor i cause ruction in others ch.he unbaned me because i was having problems whit linux so he help me in the chat ubuntu
- 20:35 <wii> gnomefreak: if u want to see the history :http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
- 20:35 <gnomefreak> if he removed bann he needed to know why you were banned and should have known to remove all bans. this doesnt explain why he thought you should be unbanned
- 20:36 <gnomefreak> wii: i know where the logs are i have logs myself. i want you to tell me
- 20:36 <wii> gnomefreak: u want me to tell u what?
- 20:36 <gnomefreak> wii: why the op felt you should be unbanned
- 20:37 <gnomefreak> or are you now saying he didnt remove your ban at all?
- 20:37 <gnomefreak> either way the ban is still in place and will not be removed without good reason.
- 20:38 <gnomefreak> wii: you joining other ubuntu channels and complaining that you are banned is also very wrong i suggest you read the links you were given many times that night and read them good
- 20:38 <wii> gnomefreak: because i was hoping to ch asking for help to regalate aa problem.i was getting help untill Tm_T banned me and everything went bad thats why i was asking for help then the op who had banned me from ubuntu unbanned me and he help me
- 20:39 <wii> gnomefreak: i went to other ch to say why i was banned becaus i couldnt get to the ops ch so i went where theres was ops
- 20:40 <gnomefreak> wii: when you weer unbanned that night the op let you back into -offtopic or kubuntu one of them and your language got you banned again, would have been for 24 hours but your actions that night in all the channels is what got it to stand alot longer
- 20:41 <gnomefreak> who was the op that told you you can join #ubuntu and what were his exact words, it sounds like to me your saying he didnt know you were banned and when you went to join #ubuntu it let you in.
- 20:41 <gnomefreak> lpease explain what happened at that time
- 20:41 <gnomefreak> please*
- 20:47 <wii> gnomefreak: the op that unbaned me from ubuntu had banned me from befor i did all that crazyness etc.then i went to kubuntu to install my drivers for my nvidea someone was helping me when i reach to the midle i tink Tm_T has just woke up and the first thing he did was banned me...ch op explanation etc then i got mad and started a ruction.then when i got completly banned from all the next day i came back i found the ch unbuntu
- 20:47 <wii> desktop and i tink it was there the op saw me (the person he banne from ubuntu)was asking for help then he talk to me in pv then unbanned me
- 20:48 <LjL> ok, but *who* was that op?
- 20:48 <wii> gnomefreak: i forgot his name but if u want u can look up the history in ubuntu to see my name and who was helping me(it was an op who was helping me solve my problem)
- 20:48 <wii> he that unbanne me
- 20:49 <gnomefreak> wii: the night im thinking about is the night ljl unbanned you and within minutes you said f*** sh** and 2 other words that got you banned than you went to every channel complaining and cursing that got you where you are. now today or yesterday who unbanned you
- 20:50 <gnomefreak> wii: is the op in this channel now?
- 20:50 <wii> i dont know cant remember
- 20:50 <wii> wait i will look in the history to see
- 20:51 <wii> it will take a little while
- 20:51 <gnomefreak> wii: why didnt you go to #ubuntu-fr if you are french?
- 20:52 <wii> ubuntu fr?no no i does go to kubuntu-fr
- 20:54 <gnomefreak> ok either or so than why did you come to #ubuntu looking for help if you knew you were banned from there
- 20:57 <wii> becaus the person who had banned me from ubuntu had unbanne me.and i was still banne in kubuntu so the op told me to wait a moment for him to help me in my version of kubuntu
- 20:58 <gnomefreak> wii: you were never unbanned from #ubuntu your hostmask changed and didnt fit inside the ban. so heres some choices that we have.
- 20:58 <wii> i was never banned?
- 20:58 <LjL> you were never *unbanned*
- 20:59 <LjL> that is, your ban was never removed
- 20:59 <LjL> you simply changed internet address
- 20:59 <gnomefreak> 1. do we let you back into the channels on the assumption that you will opbey and not make us look like fools again. 2. keep you banned until i get all the ops involved and talk about this. 3 or do we make the ban stronger so you can evade it and simply go back in 30 days to review it.
- 20:59 <gnomefreak> i showed you the ban in #ubuntu as soon as you joined in here
- 20:59 <wii> gnomefreak: i found the op name
- 20:59 <gnomefreak> it has been there
- 21:00 <gnomefreak> you can either say it in here or pm me the name if you feel better that way
- 21:00 <wii> ah lol his right there
- 21:00 <gnomefreak> LjL: if ther eis a choice i didnt mention please feel free to add one or 2
- 21:00 <gnomefreak> whos right where?
- 21:01 <gnomefreak> you mean LjL ?
- 21:01 <wii> the op that unbanned me from ubuntu
- 21:01 <Pici> who?
- 21:01 <wii> no not LjL
- 21:01 <jdong> LjL: sorry, I just got back....
- 21:01 <wii> :D
- 21:01 <gnomefreak> jdong: sit
- 21:01 <jdong> gnomefreak: woof woof?
- 21:01 <gnomefreak> wii: jdong cant unban you in #ubuntu
- 21:02 <gnomefreak> jdong: ;)
- 21:02 <gnomefreak> he asked another op to unban you as i understand it
- 21:02 <wii> :O
- 21:02 <gnomefreak> jdong: accurate?
- 21:02 <wii> ok
- 21:02 <jdong> gnomefreak: that is correct
- 21:02 <gnomefreak> wii: the op said he would not remove your ban
- 21:02 <wii> who did he ask?
- 21:02 <gnomefreak> wii: LjL
- 21:02 <LjL> wii: he asked me.
- 21:02 <LjL> wii: but, there was no ban to remove, since you had changed your address.
- 21:03 <wii> LjL: so why did u accept? :/
- 21:03 <gnomefreak> jdong: he really screwed up badly one night and that is why all the bans in all the channels.
- 21:03 <LjL> wii: i didn't accept. i just did nothing - neither ban you nor remove any ban.
- 21:03 <wii> LjL: i didnt change y adress
- 21:03 <LjL> wii: you might not have done that *on purpose*
- 21:03 <jdong> gnomefreak: I am pretty aware...
- 21:03 <gnomefreak> jdong: ok
- 21:03 <gnomefreak> just wanted to make sure you were up on it
- 21:04 <wii> LjL: i was wii since mmm i tink more than a week
- 21:04 <LjL> gnomefreak: he was simply on an "i'm going to help trolls and feel the pain" sort of night :P
- 21:04 <jdong> gnomefreak: yeah, I was aware of his inappropriate behavior, but was nice that day and decided to help him with his technical problem that night
- 21:04 <wii> and i was ban from ubuntu when i was wii
- 21:04 <LjL> wii: that's a nickname, not an internet address
- 21:04 <LjL> (and a week isn't a very impressing record for keeping a nickname anyway)
- 21:04 * gnomefreak is not comfortible in letting the bans go at this time, i have to get out of here atm please decide as you wish but you have my opinion
- 21:05 <wii> wait but LjL saw that i was banned from many ch so why did he let me in?
- 21:05 <jdong> wii: your identity or address changed to the point that no bans applied to you
- 21:05 <PriceChild> wii, It has been stated many tiems that Ljl did not unban you.
- 21:06 <LjL> gnomefreak: my opinion is that, thanks to jdong's masochistic mood last night, he's most probably obtained all the Ubuntu support he could get. but, there is no reason why he shouldn't be treated like a ban evader
- 21:06 <jdong> wii: if you are on a DHCP address that is probably just your ISP
- 21:06 <LjL> wii: i let you in because i felt like letting you in.
- 21:06 <LjL> but that doesn't mean your ban was lifted, as it never was
- 21:06 <gnomefreak> LjL: he has -fr (his native lang. if he needs help in mean time)
- 21:06 <gnomefreak> im out ;)
- 21:06 <LjL> gnomefreak: assuming he's not banned there, yeah
- 21:06 <gnomefreak> well i didnt ban him there :)
- 21:06 <wii> so how come when i try to get in ubuntu the thing keep saying i was banned?so who open the lock?
- 21:07 <LjL> wii: open the lock?
- 21:07 <PriceChild> wii, the ban was set on your "hostname", your hostname changed, the ban no longer applied, you could get in.
- 21:07 <gnomefreak> you may have to show him the hostmask i posted against his
- 21:07 <gnomefreak> for him to understand
- 21:07 <LjL> let's try
- 21:07 <gnomefreak> night
- 21:07 <Pici> wii: When you connect to the internet your service provider gives you a new address, we hadn't banned that address, so thats how you got in the first time.
- 21:07 <wii> gnomefreak: english is my natave lang
- 21:07 <LjL> wii: your current internet address is: AMarigot-102-1-8-152.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr
- 21:07 <LjL> wii: the address that was banned is: AMarigot-102-1-9-150.w80-8.abo.wanadoo.fr
- 21:07 <gnomefreak> wii: thats not what you said the night this all started you said french was
- 21:08 <LjL> since it has changed, you could get in.
- 21:08 <LjL> that's all.
- 21:08 <wii> ok so i'm banned from what ch then so this can all end?
- 21:09 <LjL> you can consider yourself banned from every international #ubuntu channel.
- 21:09 <LjL> if you can join, that's just by chance - you're still banned.
- 21:10 <wii> lol so if by chance i join you will banne me?
- 21:10 <LjL> yes, that's correct.
- 21:10 <wii> :(
- 21:10 <wii> an ubuntu desktop?
- 21:11 <LjL> i can't ban you from #ubuntu-desktop, however i don't think #ubuntu-desktop is a support channel.
- 21:11 <wii> lol
- 21:11 <Pici> LjL: Hasn't stopped him from asking for support there in the past.
- 21:11 <wii> kubuntu an ubuntu fr?
- 21:11 <LjL> since you seem to know french, i suggest you try #ubuntu-fr, as that one *is* a support channel.
- 21:12 <LjL> wii: not under our jurisdiction. if you're not banned from #ubuntu-fr, you can join - just try to not get yourself banned from there, too.
- 21:12 >>>> PriceChild ([email protected]/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild) has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
- 21:12 <wii> but those people does be sleeping when im up
- 21:12 <LjL> Pici: i know, i still don't have access though :)
- 21:12 <wii> that why i does spend most time in the english ones
- 21:13 <LjL> wii: well, you are up now, and just in the last 10 minutes, there have been 87 messages in #ubuntu-fr
- 21:13 <LjL> 8 messages a minute. is that so bad?
- 21:13 <wii> thats ubuntu-fr i does be in kubuntu-fr
- 21:14 <wii> i dont like the ubuntu ch it goes to fast
- 21:14 <LjL> sorry?
- 21:14 <wii> and i'm on kubuntu linux
- 21:14 <LjL> well #ubuntu going fast shouldn't be a problem, since you're banned from there
- 21:14 <wii> the people in ubuntu speeks to fast
- 21:14 <LjL> well, i think you're free to ask for Kubuntu help on #ubuntu-fr
- 21:15 <wii> that why i curst someone in ubuntu-offtopic
- 21:15 <LjL> wii: so what? you're banned. you can't see them speaking fast. or are you talking about #ubuntu-fr?
- 21:15 <wii> ubuntu
- 21:15 <LjL> oh, people speak fast in a channel so you curse someone in another?
- 21:15 <LjL> wii: ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu what?
- 21:15 <LjL> really, you aren't making any sense.
- 21:15 <wii> if unbutnu-fr has 87 i thing i will be going to fast for me
- 21:15 <LjL> it's way slower than #ubuntu.
- 21:16 <LjL> anyway, not my business really
- 21:16 <wii> theres ubuntu and there are kubuntu
- 21:16 <LjL> end of discussion - you have plenty of support channels you can still join.
- 21:16 <LjL> go and be happy.
- 21:17 <LjL> kubuntu is very plural, yeah
- 21:18 <LjL> wii: if you have no further questions (no, you don't) then i suggest you please try joining #ubuntu-fr and leave this channel.
- 21:18 <wii> sory my english his horyble :(
- 21:18 >>>> wii ([email protected]-102-1-8-152.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left #ubuntu-ops ["Konversation terminated!"]
- 21:19 <LjL> pfffffffff
- 21:19 <jdong> *sigh*, did I cause all of that?
- 21:19 <LjL> horyble doesn't say it at all
- 21:19 <gnomefreak> jdong: no
- 21:19 * jdong is still reading scrollback...
- 21:20 <gnomefreak> jdong: we do things for you out of respect, he caused his own issues long before you got involved ;)
- 21:20 <LjL> jdong definitely not, a troll is a troll is a troll. the only little thing that possibly made it a bit more confusing for him (and therefore, for us too) was that i didn't re-ban him when he joined for you to help him
- 21:20 >>>> mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Jucato] by ChanServ
- 21:21 <LjL> but "hey, but ljl didn't ban me when i joined last night!" is hardly a valid reason to lift a ban ;)
- 21:22 <gnomefreak> wonders if n=wii would be better since he seems to get confused easy
- 21:22 <gnomefreak> hell give me syntax and ill do it before going back to bed
- 21:24 <gnomefreak> ty
- 21:24 >>>> Jordan_U ([email protected]-68-165-173-197.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net) has quit [Connection timed out]
- 21:24 <gnomefreak> LjL: you ok with this?
- 21:25 <gnomefreak> and whoever has access please ban in -desktop as well he goes in there to complain
- 21:25 <LjL> gnomefreak: yes, i'm fine
- 21:25 <gnomefreak> k
- 21:26 <LjL> gnomefreak: for that you need seveas i'm afraid
- 21:26 <gnomefreak> yeah i thought so
- 21:30 <gnomefreak> ok got all that i can ban in (well one more left)
- 21:30 <gnomefreak> there
- 21:41 >>>> jdong_ ([email protected]/member/jdong) has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)]
- 21:50 >>>> mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Amaranth] by ChanServ
- 21:53 >>>> mode/#ubuntu-ops [+v Hobbsee] by ChanServ
- 21:55 <wii> can i ask a favor?
- 22:06 <Hobbsee> perhaps
- 22:12 <wii> can i be unbanned frome ubuntu-effects for me to solve my problems?
- 22:13 <wii> everything went from bad to worst when i try to solve it my self
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