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Me:
I'm confused. There are written rules, they are enforced strictly, and because of this there's something wrong with me?

It's not like users of this forum don't know the rules are enforced, it's stated clearly and in many places. You yourself have been warned of them by others, and chose to ignore the fact. I'm not the only person who enforces them strictly. We may not enforce them perfectly, but we work on trying to keep them enforced for a variety of reasons.

What, exactly, is the aspect of this that you have a problem with? The fact that we aren't friendly (these are technical forums, not social, and those of us administering them agreed on that), the fact that we don't show leniency in letting an old member from pre-reorganization ignore the rules (there is no clause allowing this, and honestly you're as capable of reading the new rules as anyone else), or what?

Him:
nope, as a old timer i dont expect any special treatment whatsoever.
You have this incredible nack for failing to inerpret or understand what an individual is trying to express, not everyone is as bright as you are, so in future cut operators a bit of slack, it takes time for some folks to try and formulate what their percived problems are with this OS, yes some folks are trolls, but not everyone is a troll, have some patiience please and let the op ramble, you dont have to jump in straight away, test and understand, try to understand their problem without jumping down their throats or banning them outright.
I do understand that you have a difficult job medrating forums, but please do try to listen when a genuine illeterate pops up, after all you chose the mantle of help desk, so dont be obnoxious.

Me:
No, I was handed the mantle of "Guy whose job it is to enforce the rules." You chose to ignore them by posting about a problem while using an outdated build for example, something that is very clearly against the rules.

Also, I did not ban the original poster, I banned you. For openly admitting that you'd chosen to ignore the rule on using a recent build, as well as deliberately taking the thread off topic. Especially since you'd been warned in the past, after mentioning your "Grandfather rights" in an earlier thread that you *started* explicitly ignoring the new guidelines of our forums.

I hate to tell you this, but your 24-hour ban was not wholly my idea, it was well supported by several other forum staff members, as it was felt by them and myself that you've showed an unwillingness to accept that these forums are kept strict for a reason.

They aren't the right place for a bug report, so if someone mentions experiencing a problem, our goal here is to determine whether it's performing as we expect or not quickly so that a proper bug report can be filed. To do this I ask very specific questions that often sound something like "It should do X. What is it doing when you try this?" and expect the person to answer "When I try it, Y happens" not "I like listening to albums" or other things.

If you don't like this attitude, you're more than welcome to leave. You're also more than welcome to suggest a new set of forum guidelines that can achieve the goals we've set forth with these forums while making it a "Friendlier" place.

But you're not welcome to throw personal insults at me, and attempt to call me mentally unsound. I find no difficulty moderating these forums: There are rules, and people are expected to follow them. This is not a confusing situation.

I listened to cc's problem. In fact, he brought up what seemed to be a valid bug, and I asked for more information on it, with the intention that he reported. it. You brought up what seemed to be a valid bug. I asked for more information on it, you did not give me the specific one detail I asked for, and then revealed that you weren't in compliance with the requirement that you be using a current build. I don't see how you weren't in the wrong there. Even if we ignore the lack of helpfulness, as being stubborn and not answering questions directly aren't against the rules, reporting a problem with an outdated is very clearly, and this is in black and white.