(n=Max~@203-97-238-106.cable.telstraclear.net) has joined #grub\n Sep 21 09:56:27 Maxdamantus Hmm.. Is it possible to make a GRUB boot CD, and make that check a menu.lst on a different device (HD)?\n Sep 21 10:33:38 -- wibbit (n=<a href="/ym/Compose?To=douglasf@SAGW-PRIMARY.ARC.COM&YY=85774&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b">douglasf@SAGW-PRIMARY.ARC.COM</a>) has joined #grub\n Sep 21 10:33:49 wibbit Good morning all\n Sep 21 10:33:51 wibbit Any one up?\n Sep 21 10:54:35 -- benanne (n=<ahref="/ym/Compose?To=rijyiohe@41.176-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be&YY=85774&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b">rijyiohe@41.176-246-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be</a>) has joined #grub\n Sep 21 11:02:05 -- jeroney_ has quit ()\n Sep 21 11:33:29 -- WindowsUninstall (n=<ahref="/ym/Compose?To=WindowsU@host122-162-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it&YY=85774&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b">WindowsU@host122-162-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it</a>) has joined #grub\n Sep 21 12:03:07 -- tschwinge (n=<ahref="/ym/Compose?To=user@fencepost.gnu.org&YY=85774&y5beta=yes&y5beta=yes&order=down&sort=date&pos=0&view=a&head=b">user@fencepost.gnu.org</a>) has joined #grub\n Sep 21 12:29:54 enouf Maxdamantus: if you boot into the grubshell, and issue a "find /boot/grub/menu.lst" it should kick back all available, if theyexist there and grub is installed properly\n Sep 21 12:30:12 Maxdamantus "Installed properly"?\n Sep 21 12:30:43 enouf Maxdamantus: grub doesn't know anythingabout File Systems so if located in an obscure place, it wont find it\n Sep 21 12:30:54 Maxdamantus I just want it to load themenu.lst from a specific HD.\n Sep 21 12:31:02 Maxdamantus I can't get the BIOS to boot fromthe HD.\n Sep 21 12:31:14 Maxdamantus This machine will boot that HD..\n Sep 21 12:31:21 Maxdamantus And that machine will boot thismachine's HD.\n Sep 21 12:31:26 enouf Maxdamantus: you could make teh Boot CDwith your menu.lst files (IINM)\n Sep 21 12:31:29 Maxdamantus But that machine won't boot thatmachine's HD.\n Sep 21 12:31:45 Maxdamantus I was using a fd for a few months,but that's buggered now.\n Sep 21 12:31:56 Maxdamantus enouf, but then I can't edit them.\n Sep 21 12:32:12 Maxdamantus Since it needs to be a finalisedCD-R to boot.\n Sep 21 12:32:14 enouf <a href="http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html#SEC11"target=_blank>http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_3.html#SEC11</a>\n Sep 21 12:34:11 Maxdamantus enouf, that doesn't say how tomake it automatically load menu.lst from a different device.\n Sep 21 12:34:30 enouf ofcourse it doesn't\n Sep 21 12:36:10 enouf Maxdamantus: i have no idea what thatwhole "this machine, that machine" is about, and would rather not know - yuo shouldreinstall grun to each "machine's" MBR on it's HDD that has Linux\n Sep 21 12:36:35 enouf s/grun/grub\n Sep 21 12:36:44 Maxdamantus I have two machines.. One is old,and I use it as a server for multiple things.\n Sep 21 12:36:54 Maxdamantus And that won't boot from it's ownHD.\n Sep 21 12:37:02 enouf that doesn't make sense\n Sep 21 12:37:14 Maxdamantus I've tried installing GRUB andLILO.\n Sep 21 12:37:19 Maxdamantus And it just won't boot from theHD.\n Sep 21 12:37:30 Maxdamantus If I put that HD into thismachine, it'll boot fine.\n Sep 21 12:37:34 Maxdamantus But it won't work on that.\n Sep 21 12:37:43 enouf that mean you only installed grub onto thenon-server CompB's MBR and never into the server's compA MBR\n Sep 21 12:37:51 Maxdamantus And if I take the HD from thismachine, and put it in that machine, it'll boot Ubuntu too.\n Sep 21 12:38:07 Maxdamantus Well, until it finds out that thedevices specified in fstab don't exist.\n Sep 21 12:38:11 * enouf smacks forehead violent;y\n Sep 21 12:38:30 enouf against the desk\n Sep 21 12:38:44 Maxdamantus Non-server CompB's MBR?\n Sep 21 12:38:51 Maxdamantus It's installed in the MBR, believeme.\n Sep 21 12:39:00 enouf two == a + b\n Sep 21 12:39:15 Maxdamantus If I take out all HDs out of thiscomputer, and put in the HD from the other computer, it'll boot the Gentoo install..\n Sep 21 12:39:29 Maxdamantus Well, it'll boot GRUB.\n Sep 21 12:39:33 Maxdamantus Which will then boot Gentoo.\n Sep 21 12:39:55 enouf Maxdamantus: you goofed somewhere bittime, but believe me, it'll boot if done correctly\n Sep 21 12:40:38 Maxdamantus Well.. I'm fairly certain I'vedone it correctly.\n Sep 21 12:40:55 enouf Maxdamantus: your device.map files and#groot= entry needs examination, as well as /etc/fstab and menu.lst for each\n Sep 21 12:41:11 enouf Maxdamantus: you haven't\n Sep 21 12:41:30 Maxdamantus enouf, if it was the device.map,wouldn't it give something more than a GRUB read error?\n Sep 21 12:41:38 enouf Maxdamantus: you realize all those lineswith only 1 # are actually read?\n Sep 21 12:41:48 Maxdamantus The BIOS won't even recognise thatthere is anything to boot.\n Sep 21 12:41:57 enouf Maxdamantus: you realize all those lineswith 2 # are the ones that are not\n Sep 21 12:42:18 enouf in between the AUTOMAGIC stuff only\n Sep 21 12:42:29 enouf BEGIN and END\n Sep 21 12:42:55 * Maxdamantus boots the Gentoo LiveCD..\n Sep 21 12:43:30 Maxdamantus I think these BIOS might bespecifically designed for Windows actually.\n Sep 21 12:43:52 enouf Maxdamantus: Maxdamantus The BIOSwon't even recognise that there is anything to boot. and Maxdamantus This machine will boot that HD.. and Maxdamantus And that machine will boot this machine's HD. ==== Totallyinconsistent statements\n Sep 21 12:43:59 Maxdamantus Boot sequence has options such as"A", "C", "D", "A only", "C only", "D only"\n Sep 21 12:46:24 enouf i gotta get some sleep now for a few (evenif i don't achieve it, i have to try) .. good luck, and remember to let know, .. istay logged, will revisit\n Sep 21 12:50:39 Maxdamantus Fuck.. Perhaps this is why..\n Sep 21 12:50:57 Maxdamantus device.map has "(hd0) /dev/hdc"\n Sep 21 12:51:06 * Maxdamantus thinks that should be /dev/hda\n Sep 21 12:52:17 Maxdamantus Damn it.. Rebooted before settingup grub.\n Sep 21 13:02:46 Maxdamantus No difference.\n Sep 21 13:05:46 enouf Maxdamantus: #groot=\n Sep 21 13:05:58 Maxdamantus * Now talking on #groot=\n Sep 21 13:06:08 Maxdamantus Wait. You didn't mean a channeldid you?\n Sep 21 13:06:25 enouf in menu.lst\n Sep 21 13:06:35 Maxdamantus Oh.\n Sep 21 13:06:53 Maxdamantus Unfortunately, I accidentally leftit to auto load.. Which boots the GUI by default.\n Sep 21 13:06:57 Maxdamantus Lemme reboot it again.\n Sep 21 13:07:18 enouf you really should learn the grub shell\n Sep 21 13:07:39 enouf (not that i'm an expert, but i can getaround)\n Sep 21 13:07:41 Maxdamantus I know the basics of the grubshell.. Well, enough to make a simple installation.\n Sep 21 13:07:46 enouf no\n Sep 21 13:07:56 enouf well enough to fix things from there\n Sep 21 13:08:03 enouf and test from there\n Sep 21 13:08:14 Maxdamantus I can't get to a fucking grubshell.\n Sep 21 13:08:26 Maxdamantus I need to use the one on theGentoo LiveCD.\n Sep 21 13:08:30 enouf ROFL == how did it boot to the Desktop, ifit doesnt Boot?\n Sep 21 13:08:38 Maxdamantus enouf, it's the LiveCD.\n Sep 21 13:08:39 enouf what?\n Sep 21 13:08:43 enouf no no no no on\n Sep 21 13:08:44 Maxdamantus And it doesn't use GRUB there.\n Sep 21 13:08:46 enouf OMG\n Sep 21 13:09:05 * enouf shoots Maxdamantus \n Sep 21 13:09:24 Maxdamantus Zomg, why'd you do that?\n Sep 21 13:09:50 enouf Maxdamantus I can't get to afucking grub shell. -- WHAT THE FUCK is THAT!\n Sep 21 13:10:08 Maxdamantus Well. Not natively.\n Sep 21 13:10:16 Maxdamantus Only under Gentoo.. The "grub"command.\n Sep 21 13:10:27 enouf if you can boot the HDD, you certainly canget to the shell ..lol\n Sep 21 13:10:35 Maxdamantus I can't boot the HDD.\n Sep 21 13:10:39 Maxdamantus ...\n Sep 21 13:10:40 enouf OMG\n Sep 21 13:10:49 Maxdamantus That's what this whole thing isabout.\n Sep 21 13:10:50 * enouf shoots Maxdamantus again\n Sep 21 13:10:57 enouf no it isn;t\n Sep 21 13:10:58 Maxdamantus The BIOS won't boot anything fromthis specific HD.\n Sep 21 13:11:06 enouf Bullshit\n Sep 21 13:11:39 Maxdamantus Well. The only thing I've knownfor it to boot directly off the HD, as instructed by the MBR is the NTLDR.\n Sep 21 13:11:48 Maxdamantus Because it had XP on it before.\n Sep 21 13:12:05 Maxdamantus But I used a floppy disk with GRUBon it to boot for a few months.\n Sep 21 13:12:15 Maxdamantus But now the FD drive is broken.\n Sep 21 13:14:52 Maxdamantus So.. 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