<AlexExtreme> lsproc, you gotta admit that that is cool :p (LinuxBIOS)
<lsproc> AlexExtreme, yeah, but since its one of the FSFs braindead moronic fucked up ideas im not having it
<AlexExtreme> :P
* AlexExtreme points out that the FSF didn't invent LinuxBIOS
<lsproc> AlexExtreme, they endorse it
<AlexExtreme> LinuxBIOS was made by the OpenBIOS developers
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, they also endorse linux and gnu...
<lsproc> and they say "oh yeah, you should use this as it makes you free"
<lsproc> NO IT DAMN WELL DOESNT
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, i dont use GNU
<AlexExtreme> and i'm assuming you know openbios
<lsproc> i use Linux TYVM
<lsproc> yes
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, linux coreutils and several other things are gnu
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, and?
<mmiikkee12> <lsproc> mmiikkee12, i dont use GNU << so you don't use coreutils?
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, i do not use the gnu operating system
<lsproc> i use the linux operating system
<lsproc> GNU failed, look at the Hurd
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, linux is the kernel, gnu is the system
<lsproc> nobody calls it the GNU OS
<lsproc> they call it linux
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, except debian (gnu/linux...)
<mmiikkee12> (which is insane imo, but they have a point)
<lsproc> the end user doesnt care about gnu
<lsproc> they dont even know what it is
<lsproc> they know Linux though
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, well don't say you don't use gnu when you're using gnu :)
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, actually, the disto I am using identifies itself as Ubuntu Linux
<mmiikkee12> it doesn't matter what people call it... if everyone called a computer a bag of meow mix, would you be using a bag of meow mix?
<lsproc> not Ubuntu GNU/Linux
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, well it still has gnu software in it
<lsproc> and i can rewrite it if i want
<mmiikkee12> until you do that, it's still gnu
<AlexExtreme> oh well
<AlexExtreme> GNU is still retarded
<AlexExtreme> they force themselves down your neck
<mmiikkee12> AlexExtreme, maybe so :)
<lsproc> the end user doesnt give a s*** in Free as in Freedom
<lsproc> they care about Free as in Beer
<AlexExtreme> hmm, cool
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, *most* end users... some of us don't drink :P
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, its a figure of speech
<AlexExtreme> the nVidia chipset i have on my mobo is the only supported nvidia chipset for linuxbios :p
<mmiikkee12> and i do like being able to patch source whenever i want
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, we are referring to end user as a general computer user who doesnt program, just surfs the web, browses emails and writes a letter
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, end user is a user of the computer... what you're referring to is what's called a "normal user" :)
<lsproc> mmiikkee12, no, you are a programmer therefore not an end user
<mmiikkee12> lsproc, i use the computer, i'm an end user
<mmiikkee12> (of linux)