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[19:50:05] <scotty> Hey
[19:50:15] <Potter> hey, man
[19:50:26] <scotty> Dan is sick of EA doing the stabbing action. I can't say I blame him. He's pissed that you got mad at him. I can't say I would call that IRCOp abuse. I told him I'd talk to you for him.
[19:53:05] <scotty> I figured if I acted as go-between it wouldn't erupt in such a huge fight.
[19:53:20] <Potter> I do not like that he is rude to EA.
[19:53:37] <scotty> To be fair, that whole stabbing thing is annoying as hell.
[19:53:52] <Potter> I don't care. He's not breaking a rule. The kick was not deserved.
[19:53:56] <Potter> thus, power abuse
[19:54:35] <scotty> Rules are guidelines, not definitive reasons to be kicked. Dan said he told EA to stop the stabbing thing in the past and did not. Dan kicked him. Disobeying oper = kick = not power abuse, eh?
[19:57:07] <Potter> I have nothing more to say at this time.
[19:58:54] <scotty> Did EA like save your life at one point? I mean, I understand you're not fond of Dan by any means, but there's a fine line between protecting your users and down right favoritism. I know for a fact I told EA to stop the stabbing thing 100 times when I was an oper. He did not obey. Dan did the same, he did not obey. There are times when EA does it constantly... I don't think a kick in the scenario of the log Dan gave me constitutes power abuse by any
[19:58:54] <scotty> means.
[19:59:21] <Potter> Are you insinuating I exhibit favoritism towards EA?
[19:59:38] <scotty> No, I'm insinuating that had that been Christina or Aaron you would not have yelled at them.
[19:59:52] <Potter> I surely would have
[20:00:00] <scotty> I do not believe so, but there we are.
[20:00:00] <Potter> But Christina and Aaron know not to act in that way.
[20:00:09] <Potter> I surely would have.
[20:00:17] <scotty> In what way? How was Dan wrong? He told EA to stop, EA did not.
[20:00:31] <Potter> He kicked him.
[20:00:45] <Potter> That's why I love freenode. They only use power when that have to.
[20:00:47] <scotty> Yes, because EA disobeyed him.
[20:01:02] <Potter> He had no right to tell EA to stop.
[20:01:08] <Potter> well
[20:01:09] <Potter> he did
[20:01:12] <scotty> Why not? Spamming the channel with pointless crap?
[20:01:13] <Potter> but he can also /ignore him
[20:01:25] <scotty> /ignore does not solve the problem
[20:01:27] <Potter> I have nothing more to say at this time.
[20:01:28] <scotty> It merely hides it.
[20:01:31] <scotty> Sigh.
[20:01:46] <Potter> Well, it's not going to be solved, so it needs to be hidden, apparently! :D
[20:01:54] <scotty> That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
[20:02:05] <Potter> good
[20:02:15] <Potter> I'm a ridiculous person.
[20:02:39] <scotty> I just think you should treat Dan equally or get it over and fire him.
[20:02:41] <scotty> Just my opinion
[20:03:19] <Potter> I DO TREAT HIM EQUALLY.
[20:03:33] <scotty> FreeNode? Heh. 5 users were k:lined today in #defocus because they were having an IRC fight. (the '/me hits John over the back of the head with a baseball bat' type)
[20:03:48] <scotty> Granted it was after two opers told them to stop.
[20:04:02] <scotty> (forgot to send that earlier)
[20:04:19] <Potter> I think he should develop maturity and deserve to be treated equally, even though he already is.
[20:04:21] <Potter> :>
[20:04:33] <scotty> :rolleyes:
[20:04:57] <scotty> I can see that you will not even consider for a moment that he was correct in his doings, so I will not push the matter any further.
[20:05:01] <Potter> Why wouldn't Christina have kicked him if he had done that to her?
[20:05:02] <Potter> Tell me why.
[20:05:28] <scotty> If someone directly disobeyed her, I think she would've kicked him.
[20:06:55] <scotty> You will not listen to me, nor consider for a moment that what I'm trying to convey upon you is valid. I shall leave you to administrate your server to your liking.
[20:07:38] <Potter> If you're not going to join ##potter, you're the one refusing to listen. ;)
[20:07:44] * scotty is away: Fooding
[20:07:58] <scotty> What are you talking about?
[20:08:21] <scotty> What's ##potter got to do with anything?
[20:08:32] <Potter> Oh, and I daresay that if you copied this conversation to Dan, I will be extremely unhappy.
[20:08:36] <scotty> Oh, invite.
[20:08:38] <Potter> nevermind; don't come to ##potter
[20:08:48] <scotty> Sorry, it was in my FreeNode tab, didn't notice it.
[20:09:10] [Away] You are now marked as being away.
[20:09:25] <Potter> yeah, sorry
[20:09:26] <Potter> no big deal
[20:09:26] <Potter> don't come to ##potter
[20:09:29] <Potter> I canceled it with Christina.
[20:09:47] <Potter> np :D
[20:10:01] <scotty> Why would you be unhappy if I copied this conversation to Dan?
[20:10:36] <Potter> Because I considered it a private conversation between us, but it appears not to be.