[23:09] <Xodus989> I don't know.
[23:09] <Xodus989> About some channel.
[23:09] <suzuki4me> I did?
[23:09] <suzuki4me> When did I say that?
[23:10] <Xodus989> So you would like to stay banned then.
[23:10] <Xodus989> Rule #1 about the scene. Don't bullshit to the top guys.
[23:10] <suzuki4me> Are you a mod?
[23:10] <Xodus989> Hah! I started the chan.
[23:10] <suzuki4me> what channel?
[23:10] <suzuki4me> #fw?
[23:10] <Xodus989> Yes.
[23:10] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:11] <suzuki4me> all I was talking about is #fw-1337
[23:11] <suzuki4me> I was just wondering if I could get in it?
[23:11] <Xodus989> Why should you be in it?
[23:11] <Xodus989> That's the biggest question, how would it benefit us?
[23:11] <suzuki4me> Because I just want to learn from it
[23:11] <suzuki4me> I would not really type in it
[23:11] <Xodus989> #fw isn't a place to learn.
[23:11] <Xodus989> #fw-1337*
[23:11] <suzuki4me> and I could educate myeself over this long summer break
[23:11] <suzuki4me> lol
[23:12] <suzuki4me> I could then tell other people in #fw about news and stuff once it becomes avail and worthy to share
[23:12] <Xodus989> You know what? You have asked several people about it, even in #fw. That channel is a secret channel, for a select few.
[23:12] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:12] <suzuki4me> But I have known about it for quite a while now
[23:12] <Xodus989> It's not for anyone to learn from, that's what articls are for.
[23:12] <Xodus989> So?
[23:13] <suzuki4me> and have grown curious about it
[23:13] <suzuki4me> Its not really much use to know about it and not able to get in it
[23:13] <suzuki4me> You know?
[23:13] <Xodus989> So we should let you in and allow a security risk? All of the users in the chan are under a contrat, promising that they won't leak or anything.
[23:13] <Xodus989> You can't sign a contract, you're under 18.
[23:14] <suzuki4me> Can I get my parents to vouch? ;)
[23:14] <Xodus989> Nope, sorry.
[23:14] <suzuki4me> Althought I am under 18, I do not act under 18
[23:14] <Xodus989> But for the future, asking to get something over and over isn't the way to get it.
[23:14] <suzuki4me> I am very smart and know alot about the modding Scene
[23:15] <Xodus989> Asking for something over and over isn't acting over 18.
[23:15] <suzuki4me> Is there somethign I can do to get in?
[23:15] <suzuki4me> Please?
[23:15] <suzuki4me> Can you give me one chance to show you what I am capable of?
[23:16] <Xodus989> As of right now no. You haven't shown very much respect towards the other ops. You have also accidently said the name in #fw.
[23:16] <suzuki4me> I promise you, you will not make a bad decision.
[23:16] <Xodus989> What's stopping you from accidently saying something others can't know in #fw?
[23:16] <suzuki4me> I havent ever said the private channel in #fw
[23:16] <Xodus989> The thing is, is the liability.
[23:16] <suzuki4me> I may have said somethign like private channel
[23:16] <suzuki4me> but never the actual name
[23:17] <suzuki4me> I know how private this channel is, and I understand.
[23:17] <Xodus989> But WHY would you benefit US from being in there?
[23:17] <Xodus989> You have not shown respect to ops
[23:17] <suzuki4me> I do have respect for all the ops
[23:17] <Xodus989> Then why have you asked over and over to get in? After they said no.
[23:18] <suzuki4me> I could even name you <5 atm
[23:18] <suzuki4me> They never said "no"
[23:18] <suzuki4me> Infact one even told me in a few days, he would let me in.
[23:18] <Xodus989> scarpa and sergio don't count.
[23:18] <suzuki4me> why not?
[23:18] <Xodus989> Sergio maybe
[23:18] <suzuki4me> That is the guy I am talking about
[23:19] <Xodus989> so who are the other four?
[23:19] <suzuki4me> He told me that if I could help out and he could see my progress in a couple days, I could get the privelage of being worthy of entering the sacred channel of #fw-1337
[23:19] <suzuki4me> I can name you 4 other mods that I talk to.
[23:19] <suzuki4me> I did not ask any other mods about the channel
[23:20] <Xodus989> Best thing I can recommend to you right now, is to take a break for a week or two. Then come back and try to help people
[23:20] <suzuki4me> because I knew that would be useless
[23:20] <Xodus989> for a few months
[23:20] <Xodus989> and then ask ME
[23:20] <Xodus989> and I'll propose it to the other ops
[23:20] <Xodus989> But who were the ones that you talkd to?
[23:20] <suzuki4me> But I know I am capable of holding that responsibility now.
[23:20] <suzuki4me> I didnt talk to other mods about that.
[23:21] <suzuki4me> I can name you off 4 other mods tho
[23:21] <suzuki4me> for the respect of them
[23:21] <Xodus989> You have to show it though. That's what I mean. Wait for things to die down, then come back and help people for a few months.
[23:21] <Xodus989> You can't name them for their respect?
[23:21] <suzuki4me> No. I can
[23:21] <Xodus989> Okay, who were they?
[23:23] <suzuki4me> m0mdad, nWo, scarpa,
[23:23] <suzuki4me> and
[23:24] <suzuki4me> the last guy
[23:24] <suzuki4me> just off memory
[23:24] <Xodus989> ?
[23:25] <Xodus989> Well man, I'll see if I can get you unbanned from #fw, but you can't ask anyone about getting into the channel.
[23:25] <Xodus989> For at least 2 months.
[23:25] <Xodus989> Then we can have time to watch you.
[23:25] <suzuki4me> wait can we make a deal?
[23:25] <Xodus989> The guys in the channel have been here more than a year.
[23:25] <suzuki4me> just between me and you?
[23:26] <Xodus989> It really depends man
[23:26] <suzuki4me> ok how about since I already know about the channel, it is no secret to me, and all my friends are in it,
[23:26] <Xodus989> Wrong, Xmods isn't in it anymore.
[23:26] <suzuki4me> Why not?
[23:27] <Xodus989> Because he hasn't been around long enough.
[23:27] <Xodus989> We need people we can trust, and we know we can trust.
[23:27] <suzuki4me> ok this has to be just between me and you
[23:27] <suzuki4me> This deal
[23:27] <suzuki4me> ok?
[23:27] <suzuki4me> tell me what you think
[23:27] <Xodus989> okay
[23:27] <suzuki4me> If I sent you PayPal for $25, would you let me in?
[23:28] <Xodus989> No.
[23:28] <Xodus989> That's it man
[23:28] <suzuki4me> what?
[23:28] <Xodus989> You're not getting in. Final decision.
[23:28] <Xodus989> So Don't ask anymore.
[23:28] <suzuki4me> Do you not trust me?
[23:28] <Xodus989> Maybe in a few months you can ask me.
[23:28] <Xodus989> If you have helped in #fw alot.
[23:29] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:29] <Xodus989> No, I don't.
[23:29] <Xodus989> I don't even know you.
[23:29] <suzuki4me> how about July 1st?
[23:29] <Xodus989> jI know everyone in the other channel. I have for more than 2 years.
[23:29] <Xodus989> Let me look
[23:29] <suzuki4me> If I can prove to you my trust, will you let me in #fw-1337 by July 1st?
[23:30] <Xodus989> Thinking...
[23:30] <suzuki4me> sure
[23:30] <Xodus989> I just asked the other ops.
[23:31] <Xodus989> They said no.
[23:31] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:31] <Xodus989> But you maybe be able to change their ind.
[23:31] <Xodus989> mind*
[23:31] <suzuki4me> How about this
[23:31] <suzuki4me> if I can get 4 mods to vouce that they trust me, will you let me in?
[23:31] <Xodus989> No.
[23:31] <suzuki4me> That is fair.
[23:32] <Xodus989> I told you how, stay for a couple of months and help people, and you may change everyone's mind.
[23:32] <Xodus989> That's it. Final. Over.
[23:32] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:32] <suzuki4me> Do you see everyone's pms?
[23:32] <Xodus989> If they're important.
[23:32] <suzuki4me> so you can see what everyone is typing always?
[23:33] <Xodus989> Next time you ask anyone to let you in the secret channel, you're getting permanently banned by the bots. Okay.
[23:33] <Xodus989> No
[23:33] <Xodus989> Only if they show me.
[23:33] <Xodus989> So don't ask me at all until at least august 1'st
[23:34] <suzuki4me> That isnt fair
[23:34] <suzuki4me> :o
[23:34] <Xodus989> When you join the military, are you given top secret information right away?
[23:34] <suzuki4me> I will never be going there.
[23:34] <suzuki4me> but Im assuming,
[23:34] <suzuki4me> no?
[23:34] <Xodus989> It's the same thing.
[23:35] <Xodus989> And you are correct.
[23:35] <suzuki4me> Do I seem like I am a bad guy that cannot be trusted worth a shit?
[23:36] <Xodus989> I don't know you. Like I said, I have known everyone in the secret channel for several years, I've known you less than several hours.
[23:36] <suzuki4me> lol
[23:37] <Xodus989> I'm seeing what I can do about getting you another chance in #fw.
[23:37] <suzuki4me> Is fw-1337 the place where all the top modders talk about everything scene related?
[23:37] <Xodus989> I'm seeing what I can do about getting you another chance in #fw.
[23:37] <suzuki4me> I appreciate that.
[23:38] <suzuki4me> But I just need to know about the fw channel
[23:38] <Xodus989> No you don't.
[23:38] <suzuki4me> I need to know what Im working for.
[23:38] <suzuki4me> Yes I do
[23:38] <Xodus989> And no you don't.
[23:38] <Xodus989> None of the people that are in there knew about the channel until they were INVITED.
[23:38] <Xodus989> They helped because they were good people.
[23:39] <suzuki4me> Can you just answer 1 thing, is 1337 the top-secret channel that is where everything is talked about privately?
[23:39] <Xodus989> Between you and me.
[23:39] <Xodus989> No.
[23:39] <suzuki4me> ?
[23:39] <Xodus989> And That's all you're getting.
[23:39] <suzuki4me> so its not even "The Channel"?
[23:39] <Xodus989> Do not repost any of this, or you will never be on this IRC server again.
[23:40] <Xodus989> Nope.
[23:40] <suzuki4me> I know
[23:40] <suzuki4me> I will not post this in the channel.
[23:40] <Xodus989> Anywhere.
[23:40] <suzuki4me> I understand.
[23:40] <suzuki4me> This is the trust that I need to be tested on.
[23:40] <suzuki4me> What is the channel of channels for The Scene?
[23:41] <Xodus989> Yes. I think the bans clear 24 hours after it's set for manual bans.
[23:41] <Xodus989> I'm not going to tell you that.
[23:41] <suzuki4me> what is 1337 ranked apon for the channel of channels?
[23:41] <suzuki4me> #2, 3 etc?
[23:42] <Xodus989> So you should be unbanned in #fw within 24 hours. And you can start helping people.
[23:42] <suzuki4me> ok thanks
[23:42] <Xodus989> We don't rank channels. Because then people would know about them.
[23:42] <suzuki4me> Can you put me in the Best channel once you trust me?
[23:42] <suzuki4me> better than 1337
[23:42] <Xodus989> You go to 1337 first, and then you gain more trust
[23:43] <suzuki4me> so Im forced through the ranks?
[23:43] <suzuki4me> lol
[23:43] <Xodus989> Yes. Only way to weed out the people in it for money, or the people who just want to be cool.
[23:43] <suzuki4me> Its like karate or something lol
[23:43] <suzuki4me> Im all for da $$$
[23:43] <suzuki4me> ;)
[23:43] <Xodus989> Weed out = get rid of :/
[23:43] <suzuki4me> so first level is #fw?
[23:44] <Xodus989> then 1337
[23:44] <suzuki4me> ok
[23:44] <Xodus989> then the other one
[23:44] <suzuki4me> how many other ones are there?
[23:44] <suzuki4me> " "
[23:44] <Xodus989> I'm going to bed, so remember what we talked about, don't ask the other ops. They will just get annoyed.
[23:44] <suzuki4me> I will.
[23:44] <Xodus989> And I'm not answering
[23:44] <suzuki4me> Ahh
[23:44] <Xodus989> Good night.
[23:44] <suzuki4me> So how about if we just let it go
[23:44] <Xodus989> okay, let it go then :0
[23:44] <Xodus989> :)*
[23:45] <Xodus989> That would make it alot easier.
[23:45] <suzuki4me> then we talk later some other time and see where I am then?
[23:45] <Xodus989> August 1'st
[23:45] <suzuki4me> no "set time"
[23:45] <Xodus989> Past august 1'st.
[23:45] <Xodus989> Good night.
[23:45] <suzuki4me> well ok..
[23:45] <suzuki4me> Good night
[23:45] <suzuki4me> Dont let the bugs bite! ;)
[23:45] <suzuki4me> lol
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