[18:23] <SakuraDestiny> hey, I can't seem to find the One Piece HDTV episodes on your shared FTP
[18:49] <CYB3RFR34K> yeah and i really dont understand why
[18:49] <SakuraDestiny> hmm, well no rush, it's not like we need them today :D
[18:50] <CYB3RFR34K> so your the HD encoder here !?
[18:50] <SakuraDestiny> yep
[18:50] <CYB3RFR34K> nice to meet ya ^^
[18:50] <SakuraDestiny> nice to meet you too
[18:51] <CYB3RFR34K> im encoder too
[18:51] <CYB3RFR34K> mabey we can share some discution
[18:51] <CYB3RFR34K> sorry my english is very bad
[18:51] <SakuraDestiny> I'm always glad to share ideas with other encoders
[18:52] <CYB3RFR34K> you like ripping DVD's ?
[18:52] <SakuraDestiny> actually, I haven't done it much
[18:52] <SakuraDestiny> so far, I've only encoded for Vegapunk, and we have to use TV RAWs, since we are only doing the new episodes
[18:53] <CYB3RFR34K> its all right
[18:54] <CYB3RFR34K> you start whit the toughest
[18:54] <CYB3RFR34K> ^^
[18:54] <SakuraDestiny> lol
[18:54] <SakuraDestiny> yeah
[18:54] <CYB3RFR34K> what codec you use to rencode HD episodes?
[18:54] <SakuraDestiny> x264
[18:54] <CYB3RFR34K> beacose i never download encoded version from vega
[18:55] <SakuraDestiny> i c
[18:55] <CYB3RFR34K> x264 is good
[18:56] <CYB3RFR34K> and be next video standart
[18:56] <CYB3RFR34K> but i prefer wmv9 if you ask me
[18:56] <SakuraDestiny> well x264 is mainly for smaller file size
[18:57] <CYB3RFR34K> dependently of Qantizer you use
[18:57] <CYB3RFR34K> and the quality you are expecting
[18:57] <SakuraDestiny> we want quality that looks the same as the RAW
[18:57] <CYB3RFR34K> i dont know if its my player or something
[18:57] <CYB3RFR34K> but i always see some block in x264
[18:58] <CYB3RFR34K> like ive downloaded all dvd-rip of bleach
[18:58] <CYB3RFR34K> and i get some in x264
[18:58] <CYB3RFR34K> and all episodes in this codec have squary appears
[18:58] <SakuraDestiny> it depends on the encoding settings - it is possible to remove most of the blocks, i think, but it really increases encoding time
[18:59] <CYB3RFR34K> hmhmm
[19:01] <CYB3RFR34K> and when you have a 120fps video
[19:01] <CYB3RFR34K> what do you do
[19:01] <CYB3RFR34K> you just decimate it by 5
[19:01] <CYB3RFR34K> to make it all on 23.976 fps?
[19:02] <SakuraDestiny> i just force it to encode at 23.976 - i don't need to decimate
[19:02] <CYB3RFR34K> do you know how to remake it in 119.88fps
[19:02] <CYB3RFR34K> and keep all hybrid scenes
[19:03] <SakuraDestiny> well, i guess just encode it with the original frame rate
[19:03] <CYB3RFR34K> what you mean reencode at 119.88fps?
[19:04] <SakuraDestiny> yeah
[19:04] <CYB3RFR34K> lol
[19:04] <SakuraDestiny> but the problem is, that most of the RAWs are 23.976
[19:04] <SakuraDestiny> so they already have frames lost from the hybrid stuff
[19:04] <CYB3RFR34K> do you want me to show you
[19:04] <SakuraDestiny> sure
[19:04] <CYB3RFR34K> how to ake 119.88fps
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> ^^
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> so first
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> when you have .avi 119.88
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> you know how to make avs script?
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> like
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> directshowsource("")
[19:05] <CYB3RFR34K> you have avisynth install?
[19:06] <SakuraDestiny> yeah
[19:06] <CYB3RFR34K> perfect
[19:06] <CYB3RFR34K> i send you the plugin you need
[19:06] <SakuraDestiny> the problem is that i use virtualdub for encoding, and avisynth runs really slowly with it if i am using x264 and HD
[19:07] <CYB3RFR34K> why you dont pass the avs through megui???
[19:07] <CYB3RFR34K> its run at 20fps
[19:07] <SakuraDestiny> something is wrong with my setup - i can't use megui with subs for some reason
[19:07] <SakuraDestiny> it alwasy hangs up right at the end of first pass
[19:07] <CYB3RFR34K> put the sub in the avs
[19:07] <CYB3RFR34K> textsub("")
[19:08] <SakuraDestiny> i do, but it doesn't work
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> hmmm
[19:08] <SakuraDestiny> no one can figure out my problem
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> maybe you have an old version of textsub
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> and you VSfilter
[19:08] <SakuraDestiny> i have the newest one available, as far as I know
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> you have the lastest?
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> wait
[19:08] <CYB3RFR34K> i send you the one i use
[19:09] <CYB3RFR34K> ok i know what you mean
[19:09] <CYB3RFR34K> beacose sometime
[19:09] <CYB3RFR34K> when you put the script in textsub
[19:09] <CYB3RFR34K> its not showing the same
[19:09] <CYB3RFR34K> as if you put it in VDM
[19:10] <SakuraDestiny> VDM?
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> virtaul dub MOD
[19:10] <SakuraDestiny> oh
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> you dont have this one?
[19:10] <SakuraDestiny> i just use regular virtualdub
[19:10] <SakuraDestiny> but i have vdm installed
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> you need VDM
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> hmm
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> wait i send you the one i use
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> i just put some pugin
[19:10] <CYB3RFR34K> add*
[19:11] <SakuraDestiny> virtualdub uses textsub plugin for subs
[19:11] <CYB3RFR34K> yeah i know
[19:11] <CYB3RFR34K> but there many veriosn of it
[19:11] <SakuraDestiny> well i am using the latest vsfilter.dll for it
[19:11] <CYB3RFR34K> nice
[19:12] <CYB3RFR34K> so extrack the plugins.rar
[19:12] <CYB3RFR34K> in you C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins
[19:12] <CYB3RFR34K> you see FPSChk.exe ?
[19:13] <SakuraDestiny> yes
[19:13] <CYB3RFR34K> this program scan all the file to determine all decombed frames
[19:13] <SakuraDestiny> i c
[19:13] <CYB3RFR34K> AVI60GUI.exe
[19:13] <CYB3RFR34K> is to put your 29.979 FPS and make it 120 FPS
[19:14] <CYB3RFR34K> beacose when you do hybrid video
[19:14] <CYB3RFR34K> its take all frame and dont keep the time of the video
[19:14] <SakuraDestiny> i c
[19:14] <CYB3RFR34K> and when you put it in AVI60GUI.exe whit the timecode.idx
[19:14] <CYB3RFR34K> its remake the right time
[19:14] <SakuraDestiny> ok
[19:15] <CYB3RFR34K> its impossible to playback a real 120fps
[19:15] <CYB3RFR34K> only security camera have this option
[19:15] <CYB3RFR34K> like for bank rubbery
[19:15] <SakuraDestiny> hmm
[19:15] <CYB3RFR34K> you dont want to miss the firering
[19:15] <CYB3RFR34K> anyway
[19:16] <CYB3RFR34K> lol!
[19:16] <CYB3RFR34K> so
[19:16] <CYB3RFR34K> do you have an 120fps episodes
[19:16] <CYB3RFR34K> just for make an exemple
[19:17] <SakuraDestiny> i have some backed up somewhere - I won't be able to do it right now
[19:17] <CYB3RFR34K> you dont have the episodes [HDTV]_ONE_PIECE_301_(1280x720_WMV9)_[2E87F7ED].avi ?
[19:17] <CYB3RFR34K> this one is 120fps
[19:18] <SakuraDestiny> well i have it backed up on DVD-R, so I will need to find it
[19:19] <CYB3RFR34K> just copy this command
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> directshowsource("C:\301.avi", fps=29.970, convertfps=true)
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> you see fps=29.970, convertfps=true
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> its for force the 120fps play as 29.970
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> so in FPSchk
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> you pass this avs
[19:20] <CYB3RFR34K> and scan it
[19:21] <CYB3RFR34K> its make you an .idx files
[19:21] <SakuraDestiny> okay
[19:21] <CYB3RFR34K> that contain all frame and all available frame
[19:21] <CYB3RFR34K> and show you the frame rate
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> ex:
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 0 (00:00:00) - 521 (00:00:17) 24fps Ô 522 (00:00:17)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 522 (00:00:17) - 583 (00:00:19) 30fps Ô 62 (00:00:02)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 584 (00:00:19) - 949 (00:00:31) 24fps Ô 366 (00:00:12)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 950 (00:00:31) - 1118 (00:00:37) 30fps Ô 169 (00:00:05)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 1119 (00:00:37) - 2105 (00:01:10) 24fps Ô 987 (00:00:32)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2106 (00:01:10) - 2212 (00:01:13) 30fps Ô 107 (00:00:03)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2213 (00:01:13) - 2254 (00:01:15) 24fps Ô 42 (00:00:01)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2255 (00:01:15) - 2353 (00:01:18) 30fps Ô 99 (00:00:03)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2354 (00:01:18) - 2439 (00:01:21) 24fps Ô 86 (00:00:02)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2440 (00:01:21) - 2478 (00:01:22) 30fps Ô 39 (00:00:01)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> # 2479 (00:01:22) - 2638 (00:01:28) 24fps Ô 160 (00:00:05)
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> Field=0
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> NumFrames=198265
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> Total=198265
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> AvailFrames=171895
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> TargetFile=C:\FIST.avs
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> so you can see that in this DVD
[19:22] <CYB3RFR34K> there some scene in 23.976 and some in 29.970
[19:23] <SakuraDestiny> yeah
[19:23] <CYB3RFR34K> and you want to keep the original playback
[19:23] <CYB3RFR34K> as possible
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> so after
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> you need to make script like this
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AVISynth 2.5\plugins\decomb.dll")
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AVISynth 2.5\plugins\dec60.dll")
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> MPEG2source("C:\dragonbox-01.d2v",cpu=4,iPP=true,idct=5)
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> Telecide()
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> RemoveGrain(mode=2)
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> Decimate(5)
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> crop(4,0,-2,-6).bilinearresize(704,396)
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> this is for mpeg2
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> but for avi it be:
[19:24] <CYB3RFR34K> lol
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> i show you the wrong script
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> beacose there no dec60
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> ok
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> this one is good
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> .
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AVISynth 2.5\plugins\decomb.dll")
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> LoadPlugin("c:\program files\AVISynth 2.5\plugins\dec60.dll")
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> MPEG2source("C:\dragonbox-01.d2v",cpu=4,iPP=true,idct=5)
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> Telecide()
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> RemoveGrain(mode=2)
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> crop(0,0,-0,-0).bicubicresize(1280,720)
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> ConvertToYUY2()
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> Dec60(idxfile="C:\dragonbox-01.idx",deint=false)
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> ConverttoYV12()
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> you see i take the dragonbox-01.d2v
[19:25] <CYB3RFR34K> i decombed frame whit Telecide
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> and remove interlaced artifact whit removegrain
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> and this part:
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> Dec60(idxfile="C:\dragonbox-01.idx",deint=false)
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> there is everything
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> it take the timecode
[19:26] <CYB3RFR34K> to keep all decombed frame
[19:27] <CYB3RFR34K> and make an 29.970 fps
[19:27] <CYB3RFR34K> that you have to pass it through dec60gui whit the timecode u use
[19:28] <SakuraDestiny> okay
[19:28] * CYB3RFR34K 14»»7 VDub Status 14«»7 [7¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦5¦¦¦7] Copy of dragonbox-05.avs 14«»7 85.4% 14«»7 Encoding frame 73095 of 85588 and audio sample 0 of 0 14«»7 Video data: 1033.2MB(348KB/s) 14«»7 Audio data: 0 bytes 14«»7 Proj. size: 1209.84MB 14«»7 Rate: 2.0 fps 14«»7 Elapsed: 7:40:57 14«»7 Estimated: 8:59:54 14««
[19:28] <CYB3RFR34K> ;)
[19:31] <CYB3RFR34K> what do you think is better
[19:32] <CYB3RFR34K> 1280x720 on lower QL
[19:32] <CYB3RFR34K> or 704x396 on extrem QL
[19:32] <CYB3RFR34K> ?
[19:32] <SakuraDestiny> hmm, i don't know - probably 704x396 on extreme QL
[19:33] <SakuraDestiny> no reason to use 1280x720 unless you are making it top quality
[19:33] <CYB3RFR34K> beacose i dont know what to do
[19:33] <CYB3RFR34K> if i do all movie of Dragonball in HQ
[19:33] <CYB3RFR34K> the new boxset
[19:34] <CYB3RFR34K> you like dragonball?
[19:34] <SakuraDestiny> i've never seen it, but i want to
[19:34] <SakuraDestiny> i've only been watching anime for about 2 years
[19:34] <SakuraDestiny> so there's a lot of stuff i haven't seen yet
[19:34] <CYB3RFR34K> yeah but you HAVE to watch Dragonball saga
[19:34] <CYB3RFR34K> ^^
[19:34] <CYB3RFR34K> its like an obigation
[19:35] <CYB3RFR34K> lol
[19:35] <CYB3RFR34K> obligation*
[19:35] <SakuraDestiny> i will, someday
[19:35] <CYB3RFR34K> im seeding all 291 episodes
[19:35] <CYB3RFR34K> like my one piece torrent
[19:35] <CYB3RFR34K> DVD-RIP no hardsubbed
[19:36] <CYB3RFR34K> i have english script
[19:36] <CYB3RFR34K> if you wanted
[19:36] <SakuraDestiny> maybe i will ask you, when i am ready to start watching it
[19:38] <CYB3RFR34K> sorry if i look exited
[19:38] <CYB3RFR34K> im always like that
[19:38] <CYB3RFR34K> XD
[19:39] <SakuraDestiny> it's okay
[19:40] <SakuraDestiny> i really have wanted to watch it - the problem is, when i start a long series, i end up watching 10 episodes a day and wasting too much time