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jakeslc555: wonder what its like
jakeslc555: to have blizzard come to house
liquidchaos367: it's unchill.
liquidchaos367: very unchill.
jakeslc555: :E
jakeslc555: they got
jakeslc555: black suits and every thing like "the matrix"?
liquidchaos367: not quite that intimidating
liquidchaos367: but close
liquidchaos367: 6 of 'em for me
jakeslc555: oh wow, 6?
liquidchaos367: well
liquidchaos367: two were net ops
liquidchaos367: two were lawyers
liquidchaos367: one was a forensics guy
liquidchaos367: o w8, no, 3 lawyers
jakeslc555: wow whats the forensics guy for?
liquidchaos367: forensics
jakeslc555: for
jakeslc555: a hacker?
liquidchaos367: my HD's
jakeslc555: did they take your HD?
liquidchaos367: no
liquidchaos367: they copied it and made me wipe mine
liquidchaos367: let me keep the hardware though
jakeslc555: I would instantly wipe mine if i seen them coming :E
liquidchaos367: I didn't see them coming
liquidchaos367: I was chilling in my kitchen
liquidchaos367: eating
jakeslc555: :E
jakeslc555: did they just walk right in?
liquidchaos367: they weren't exactly wearing "blizzard" hats or anything
liquidchaos367: no
liquidchaos367: knocked on my door
jakeslc555: LOL
jakeslc555: yeah, i didn't imagine
jakeslc555: but man..
liquidchaos367: was a very very long day
jakeslc555: they made you wipe it, i didn't think they would do that
liquidchaos367: they were all pretty nice though
liquidchaos367: well
liquidchaos367: they made me do it because I did something different than other people - that I can't talk about
liquidchaos367: as part of my agreement with them
jakeslc555: ahh, i see
jakeslc555: think
jakeslc555: they made netter etc did it as well?
liquidchaos367: nah
liquidchaos367: he kept his info I think
liquidchaos367: they made him delete his hax I think
liquidchaos367: but other than that, he kept his HDs afaik
jakeslc555: wow
jakeslc555: man... blizzard does not kid around
jakeslc555: I was thinking
jakeslc555: one lawyer game and said "stop hacking"
jakeslc555: lo
jakeslc555: l
liquidchaos367: na
jakeslc555: was not expecting a whole gang
liquidchaos367: they're making like 60 million/month from wow
liquidchaos367: they can afford 6 ppl rolling to ppl's houses
jakeslc555: lol
liquidchaos367: to be more intimidating
liquidchaos367: and it works
jakeslc555: how do they get, address?
liquidchaos367: in my case, my wow account
liquidchaos367: billing info, credit card
jakeslc555: ahh
jakeslc555: apperantly
jakeslc555: they got netters through is website
liquidchaos367: yea
liquidchaos367: domain was reg'd in his name/address
jakeslc555: who knows, how they got pauls... probably the same way
liquidchaos367: pauls info is public
liquidchaos367: he's posted it b4 iirc
jakeslc555: ahh :E
liquidchaos367: on his personal page
liquidchaos367: mousepad and zoid were the hardest for them to find
liquidchaos367: they asked me for help with that
jakeslc555: wow
jakeslc555: they contacted zoid as well?
liquidchaos367: they came to me long before anyone else
liquidchaos367: 2 years ago now I think
liquidchaos367: yea
liquidchaos367: 2 years
jakeslc555: well, you are the brains behind this all in the time and age, if i remember right
jakeslc555: wow
jakeslc555: so they basicly
jakeslc555: contacted any d2 hacker that was fairly large..
jakeslc555: :
jakeslc555: :E
liquidchaos367: it was funny - they released warden the day after they signed the agreement with me ^^
jakeslc555: rofl
liquidchaos367: part of my agreement being I can't hack their games anymore
jakeslc555: :(
liquidchaos367: which is why my anti-detection articles were all about "generic" anti-detection not "anti-warden detection" ;)
jakeslc555: lol
jakeslc555: well, if you ask me
jakeslc555: theres no way to get past it other then the "middle man" like redvex, on a different machine with proper plugins, at least as far as a full blown public hack
liquidchaos367: there are ways
liquidchaos367: i've already described them, everyone just sux to much to implement them
jakeslc555: lol
liquidchaos367: netter got the closest
liquidchaos367: in his last version of EP
jakeslc555: ehh, netter never had a standing chance imo..
liquidchaos367: he had it almost perfect
jakeslc555: his hacks, got detected two times in a row with the same method by the warden..
liquidchaos367: they detected him by reading the chat log
liquidchaos367: and looking at the EP msg
liquidchaos367: shady trick
jakeslc555: oh wow
jakeslc555: they cheap shotted
jakeslc555: mouse pad as well..
jakeslc555: with the gay line
jakeslc555: :E
liquidchaos367: netter was always intent on doing the bare minimum anti-detection every time
liquidchaos367: I always told him
jakeslc555: well
liquidchaos367: to be more pre-emptive
jakeslc555: i think he knew, that..
jakeslc555: blizzard takes several months to update warden
jakeslc555: so he could get a mass-ban and "re-proof"
jakeslc555: and hes good for 5 months..
liquidchaos367: yea
liquidchaos367: mousepad sucked too
liquidchaos367: ppl thought his AD wsa good
liquidchaos367: his was the worst
liquidchaos367: least advanced of all of them
liquidchaos367: he was just lucky that blizzard is extremely stupid
jakeslc555: rofl
jakeslc555: well..
jakeslc555: all of the
jakeslc555: "good d2 hackers?" have long since gone now
liquidchaos367: and then he got r0xed so hard
jakeslc555: LOL
liquidchaos367: I lol'd hard that day
liquidchaos367: for like 6 months before that
liquidchaos367: I had been saying
liquidchaos367: "your anti-detection isn't perfect"
liquidchaos367: and he kept saying "NOBODYS EVER BEEN BANNED CUZ OF MY HAX!!!111"
liquidchaos367: then
liquidchaos367: PWNED
jakeslc555: lol
jakeslc555: well, there is just...
jakeslc555: so much, you have to consider
jakeslc555: to make a good ad
jakeslc555: :E
liquidchaos367: yep
liquidchaos367: I fucking told everyone how to do it
liquidchaos367: to make it perfect
liquidchaos367: nobody wanted to spend the time
jakeslc555: no one, can do it...
jakeslc555: or at least
liquidchaos367: I can
jakeslc555: none of these hackers, that can hack d2..
jakeslc555: yes
jakeslc555: but only if, you want to be sued by blizzard? lol
liquidchaos367: lol
liquidchaos367: right
jakeslc555: ^^
liquidchaos367: http://www.rootkit.com/newsread.php?newsid=543
jakeslc555: what do you think of VAC2, a strong anti-cheat?
liquidchaos367: I co-designed that system
liquidchaos367: anonymously
liquidchaos367: with greg
jakeslc555: ahh nice ^^
liquidchaos367: i'm "even those who remain nameless"
liquidchaos367: VAC2 is pretty good
liquidchaos367: more advanced than warden
liquidchaos367: in some ways anyway
jakeslc555: yeah, seems hard to get buy
jakeslc555: my friend kalvin, does a good job at it so far..
liquidchaos367: http://forum.game-deception.net is the place to go for that
liquidchaos367: sry, no -
liquidchaos367: http://forum.gamedeception.net
jakeslc555: :P
jakeslc555: yeah, i am good friends with XanTrax, kalvin, c0re... and etc, most of the main HL series hackers
jakeslc555: but
liquidchaos367: ah
jakeslc555: no ones ever came up with a perfect one, still..
jakeslc555: you friends, with any of them?
liquidchaos367: not really
liquidchaos367: i'm friends with p47rick
liquidchaos367: loopnz
liquidchaos367: forget his forum name
liquidchaos367: few others
jakeslc555: wav is smart as well
jakeslc555: by the way..
jakeslc555: Lord2800 and i were talking the other day, about a anti-cheat possibly detecting a hack through checking for reading memory in a page that doesn't belong to it, how could that be counterd, do ya think?
liquidchaos367: what do you mean by that?
liquidchaos367: oh
jakeslc555: :E
liquidchaos367: w8 I get it
liquidchaos367: how would you detect that though?
jakeslc555: ehem, well.. I was asking lord2800 on a few idea of mine for a anti-detection, and he said they could detect it by "reading memory in a page that doesn't belong to it" to be honest , i don't really understand it to much..
liquidchaos367: that would work - but there is no way to do that afaik
jakeslc555: lol
jakeslc555: well then, it's renderd pointless if it would not work :E
jakeslc555: so did you like have coffe with blizzard or something lol?
liquidchaos367: haha
liquidchaos367: my dad did
liquidchaos367: I don't like coffee
jakeslc555: lmao
jakeslc555: a nice sandwhich and some coffe and discuss the details with blizzard lol
liquidchaos367: they brought food with them
jakeslc555: LOL
jakeslc555: really?
liquidchaos367: rly
jakeslc555: so they were ready for the long haul?
liquidchaos367: they were here all day
liquidchaos367: like 8-10 hours at least
liquidchaos367: was a _LONG_ day
jakeslc555: oh wow
liquidchaos367: mostly cuz
liquidchaos367: my dad is a lawyer
liquidchaos367: and was negotiating my contract with them
liquidchaos367: for like, forever
jakeslc555: ahh i see
jakeslc555: did your dad
jakeslc555: know about all this hacking stuff?
liquidchaos367: yes
jakeslc555: my parents
jakeslc555: would rage if blizzard came to door
liquidchaos367: haha