<rajkosto> hax
<heffo> ...
<heffo> hello to you 2
<rajkosto> how do i make mmorpg emu
<heffo> an emulator?
<rajkosto> ya\
<rajkosto> what channel for that if any
<Madsy> heffo: We use English here. And numbers are not letters.
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<heffo> sorry i must have been confused for a moment
<Madsy> What do you mean with "MMORPG Emulator"?
<rajkosto> server
<rnx> i doubt there is a general mmo emulator channel
<rnx> i guess he means a server emulator
<heffo> to make a private server sort of thing?
<rajkosto> yes
<rnx> something like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runuo
<rajkosto> yes except not for uo
<heffo> you would have to know/find out how the actual server worked
<t3h> for what game then?
<t3h> and yeah, heffo is right
<rajkosto> it works very complicated
<t3h> please, dont say WoW or LotRO :)
<rajkosto> its not WoW or LotRO
<rajkosto> wow has enough i think
<heffo> runescape obviously
<t3h> it does
<t3h> :;D
<rajkosto> lol runescape thats like crap
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<heffo> yes, that was the joke.....
<teh> hi
<heffo> hello
<teh> can someone help me with my game
<teh> http://home.austin.rr.com/noire/typicalmacintoshuser.jpg
<t3h> I spot an impostor!
<rajkosto> and would be easy to get the runnings of the client since its JAVA
<heffo> ROFL!
<rnx> you basically have to reverse engineer the protocol and write the whole server infrastructure from scratch
<heffo> loving the graphics
<t3h> teh, very clever, arent you?
<rajkosto> I WAS EATING
<heffo> SO IS HE
<t3h> haha
<teh> there appears to be some sort of shit man in my game
<teh> how to remove?
<rajkosto> lol
<heffo> sudo rm -r shitman*
<t3h> try "format c:" in command prompt
<t3h> should do it
<t3h> or dev/null
<rajkosto> rd /s C:
<teh> hehe that is quite a new joke
<t3h> it is
<teh> but seriously can someone tell me whats wrong with this code:
<t3h> you can also remove it by pressing ALT + F4
<teh> http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9913/porkydb4.jpg
<t3h> it would seem that you have some haity code down there
<t3h> hairy*
<teh> oh sorry bad baste
<t3h> so, do you have anything worth listening to or shall we kick you?
<teh> let me find my pastebin
<Obfuscate> Disturbing.
<t3h> well, you never know about the english folks
<t3h> they might enjoy that kinda stuff around there
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<rajkosto> so how do i hax my mmorpg then plox ?
<t3h> depends on tha game
<heffo> packet sniffing, reverse engineering and patience
<rajkosto> the protocol is udp so like bunch of same data in different packets
<t3h> just tell us the game and someone might actually try to help you
<rajkosto> but wry
<rajkosto> its a crap game
<t3h> I see. That one.
<rajkosto> lol not THAT crap
<t3h> right
<t3h> spit it out now
<rajkosto> it uses this http://www.gamasutra.com/resource_guide/20020916/lambright_01.htm
<t3h> ok then
<t3h> cant help you there
<rajkosto> y
<t3h> you should try something like "hai guise! how I maek mmorpg?"
<rajkosto> thats what i wanted to say lol
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<t3h> yes, lol indeed
<rnx> would take many man-years anyway
<rajkosto> which is why i started as how do i make mmorpg emu
<rajkosto> well is there any implementation of the object views thingy in that article somewhere
<t3h> right
<rajkosto> so i dont have to do it myself
<t3h> so you DONT want to make an emu for an MMO?
<t3h> dude, you make no sense at all
<rajkosto> OBJECT VIEWS
<rajkosto> distributed object system
<t3h> ...yes?
<rajkosto> sauce ?
<foobat> ketchup thanks
<t3h> so you dont want to make an emu for an mmo?
<rajkosto> sure i do
<t3h> what mmo?
<rajkosto> just want to steal as much src as possibal
<t3h> right..
<foobat> i see
<t3h> then you need to go somewhere else
<rajkosto> why
<t3h> we dont support code-stealing here
<heffo> try #idontunderstandcomputers
<rajkosto> i mean "borrow"
<t3h> or #make.game()
<heffo> im sure thats a php function
<rajkosto> wtf should be game.makeitself()
<t3h> rajkosto, besides thats illegal
<heffo> <?php MAEKMMORPGPLOX(); ?>
<rajkosto> lol
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<t3h> so if you ever would manage to make your MMO, you'd be sued
<heffo> no its borrowing
<heffo> hel give the source back
<t3h> oh, I see
<rajkosto> its not stealing if they are dead
<t3h> ah yeah
<t3h> I see
<foobat> no they'd just steal it back with ninjas
<foobat> and pirates and you'd be fucked
<heffo> stealing the bodies of a corpse is not stealing
<heffo> *boots
<t3h> rajkosto, the code and resources are still copyrighted
<rajkosto> nop cuz he dont mind
<t3h> he?
<heffo> then ask him for the source
<t3h> indeed
<rajkosto> revrse engineering is illegal ?
<foobat> no ninjas?
<rajkosto> PIRATES
<rajkosto> pirates have booty
<t3h> using someones copyrighted material IS illegal
<rajkosto> but im not
<rajkosto> just gonna run servor
<t3h> oh, that explains
<t3h> so you wanna steal someone elses code and run your own server?
<rajkosto> no
<rajkosto> there are no servers for this game
<rajkosto> i dont want to steal all code
<t3h> so why dont you ask the author for a permission?
<rajkosto> but as much as posible then assemble it all till ti works
<t3h> he'd surely be glad if someone wanted to run a server for his game
<rajkosto> its a huge game ?
<t3h> specially if its dead
<rajkosto> its not really dead
<rajkosto> but it sucks
<rajkosto> i want to maek it bettar
<t3h> right
<t3h> so you want to run an illegal emulated server of an active MMO?
<t3h> with stolen code?
<rajkosto> if by active u mean 5 players yes
<rajkosto> no stolen code
<rajkosto> i use gpl
<rajkosto> thats k
<t3h> does that game use gpl?
<heffo> rofl
<heffo> sorted
<heffo> case closed.
<t3h> :DDD
<rajkosto> that game doesnt
<rajkosto> but why should it
<t3h> haha
<foobat> ...
<t3h> so you want to release the games code?
<rajkosto> what the hell
<rajkosto> NO
<t3h> as your own, as GPL
<rajkosto> i dont have the games code
<t3h> what then?
<t3h> but you just said you want it
<t3h> if its copyrighted, you cant have it
<mo---> hm, i never gave this much of a thought .. but if you link to gpl'led libraries, you don't have to put your own code under gpl, right?
<heffo> nope
<heffo> you can keep ur code closed source
<heffo> you just have to say you did it
<t3h> yarr
<rajkosto> i wouldnt be asking HOW DO I MAEK MMORPG if i had the code
<rnx> gpl ? ... yes, you need to gpl your own code!
<rnx> not so with lgpl
<t3h> rajkosto, learn to code
<rajkosto> but i knows !
<t3h> and make you own damn mmo
<rnx> but linking with gpl libraries is not allowed unless you gpl your code
<rajkosto> no i dont want my own
<t3h> and stop trying to devise ways to steal someone elses code
<rajkosto> hwo the hell can i steal it argh
<foobat> ever thought of just suggesting how to make it better to the guy?
<rajkosto> i just asked
<rajkosto> if there was a implementation
<t3h> go away, pleas
<rajkosto> for the idea
<t3h> e
<rajkosto> in the article i gave u linx to
<mo---> rnx, k, good to know ^^.
<t3h> we dont support stealing other people's copyrighted code around here
<rajkosto> free implementation
<rajkosto> of the distributed object system they talk about in that article
<mo---> ah great, sdl is licenced with lgpl *pheew* ;) not that anything i wrote was ever worth keeping secret ^^
<t3h> make sense or go away
<rajkosto> and when i said steal i didnt mean steal copyrighted code
<rajkosto> i meant use as muich free source code as possible
<rajkosto> like from other emu projects and stuff
<t3h> to run an illegal emulated server?
<rajkosto> its not illegal in my country :D
<Jessicatz> emulated server aren't illegal
<t3h> Jessicatz, he is speaking about a commercial MMO
<t3h> that is still running
<Jessicatz> and?
<heffo> and stealing the source code for it
<Jessicatz> look at ragnarok online
<Jessicatz> eAthene is open source and an emulator for ragnarok online
<rajkosto> besides, im not using any of their code, since the encryption was just standard, and most of the stuff i will write on myself
<t3h> reverse engineering that an running your own free emu server IS illegal
<Jessicatz> it is fucking not
<foobat> to be honest i have no idea what he really wants, and i'm pretty sure he doesn;t either
<mo---> rajkosto, how are things in yugoslavia anyways? didn't hear much about it in the news in the past months.
<rajkosto> because it doesnt exist
<t3h> so I can run a free WoW server legally?
<mo---> (which should be a good thing i guess)
<rajkosto> for like 3 years or something
<Jessicatz> providing a client to play on it, yes
<rajkosto> its serbia now
<Jessicatz> changing the original code, illegal
<mo---> rajkosto, well, your part of former yugoslavia .. ;)
<Jessicatz> making something behave like the original without touching the original.. legal
<t3h> so I can just steal the wow server code and use it?
<rajkosto> meh its crappy and slow internets as always
<rajkosto> i wish i could steal their server code
<rajkosto> but its locked up tights
<rajkosto> in their vaults
<Jessicatz> t3h: I'm of course no lawyer but nobody would give a damn
<rajkosto> or something
<t3h> exactly
<t3h> probably not Jessicatz
<rajkosto> im just looking for the implementation of the distributed object system in this article http://www.gamasutra.com/resource_guide/20020916/lambright_01.htm
<t3h> but that doesnt make it legal and right
<rajkosto> if there is any