<raster> devilhorns: try this
<raster> 1. cvs update e
<devilhorns> building now
<raster> 2. http://www.rasterman.com/files/Custom-Background-etc..tar.gz
<raster> get it
<raster> untar
<raster> open in fm2
<raster> scroll around
<raster> once i'm done...
<raster> you should almost be able to build entire user interfaces just with directories
<raster> and fm2
<devilhorns> wow
<raster> 1. u can have a custom .edj for the bg
<raster> 2 a custom .edj for an "overlay"
<raster> i have fixme's for making the scrollframe widget stuff also able to be custom
<raster> per dir
<raster> (just put a magic file in)
<raster> i will also make the theme widgets used for icons their selection etc. etc.
<raster> also bto be custom
<devilhorns> gack...caught me mid-code...hehe, have to comment some stuff I was working on
<raster> so basically any dir can have a whole custom UI
<raster> since u can do a custom overlay scrollframe, wallpaper and custom icon widgets
<raster> its edje
<raster> so ui can build buttons, ui elements etc.
<raster> all i need to do is add code ti listen to signals from the edjes
<raster> and if the edjes send sicgnals
<raster> like "e.fm.close"
<raster> "e.fm.exec"
<devilhorns> oh damn that's sexy
<raster> "e.fm.opendir"
<raster> etc.
<raster> u could build things like mini audio players
<raster> just by execcing mpg123
<raster> or ogg123
<raster> etc. etc.
<raster> a dir with a few scripts
<raster> some data files
<raster> etc.
<raster> and bingo
<raster> an app
<raster> :)
<raster> have to be careful
<raster> security
<raster> cant have it do dangerous things without an OK from the user
<devilhorns> w0000w !!! :) I love the way that the overlay affects the selector
<raster> :)
<raster> its just meant to look like several layers of cloud/fog
<raster> with files scrolling thru
<raster> are u using default?
<devilhorns> indeed
<raster> (theme)
<devilhorns> well, I had to switch to default, yea
<raster> i made the selection bg of items in list mode mostly trans
<raster> cool
<devilhorns> current theme (mine) doesn't have support for it :)
<raster> make the window big
<raster> but still scrollable
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<raster> and note all the cloud layers
<raster> 1 on top
<raster> 2 layers under the files
<raster> and the bg texture also scrolls
<raster> thats an example of what peopler WILL be able to do in future
<devilhorns> OMG
<devilhorns> wood
<raster> as they are edjes - they can aniate like any wallpaper
<raster> etc. etc.
<raster> u could make a bg and overlay that looks like plants in the jungle
<raster> fog and cliuds
<raster> clouds
<raster> maybe rows of buildings in a city
<raster> or wires and stuff
<raster> basically anything u like
* devilhorns starts drooling
<raster> bgs dont have to scroll
<raster> can be still
<raster> the idea is - in the distant future
<raster> we can distribute apps as just tarball dirs
<raster> u download - unpack
<raster> and the whole app installer and experience is a dir like that
<devilhorns> wOw
<raster> i'm contemplating allowing the dir to also use a custom border
<raster> but just imagine
<raster> when u can freeplace icons
<raster> turn off the icon labels
<raster> so now its just a bunch of images in a dir
<raster> u can scroll around
<raster> with custom overlays, backtgrounds
<raster> other edje widgets
<raster> etc.
<raster> u can make a nice installer front end for an app
<raster> just as a dir + scripts
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<raster> THIS is why i wanted to spend time on fm2 and wanted it for e17
<devilhorns> my lord
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<devilhorns> that's some ubber kewl stuff :)
<devilhorns> hmm, how to make all e_fm use it...
<raster> what u see is only a small toe in the waters of a "nice fm" for e
<devilhorns> man...that's some super kewl sexy right there :)
<raster> thats only the beginning
<raster> ...
* devilhorns spends the day just scrolling e_fm :)
<raster> MUHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
<raster> the next step is a custom scrollframe
<raster> so u can have a custom scrolbar and whatever design surrounding the file list
<devilhorns> just cannot get over the "layered scroll" approach....pretty near gives me wood :)
<raster> much like web pages can use CSS to customise scrollbars on some browsers
<devilhorns> right
<raster> that on iuts own will let u put fancy surroundings on the file regions
<raster> it's a questiopn of time...
<devilhorns> ahh yes...the one thing we never have enough of :)
<raster> anyway
<ptomaine> Is it ok that i can't set some jpeg's as wallpaper. "Enlightenment was unable to import the picture due to conversation errors", though Opera & Firefox shows it?
<raster> u get the idea where we are going with this