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Session Start: Fri Mar 02 20:55:54 2007
Session Ident: #NAACSenate
03[20:55] * Now talking in #NAACSenate
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01[20:56] <Western_Digital> HELLO
01[20:56] <Western_Digital> When does tis' meeting start
[20:56] <BartB88> in a min
01[20:56] <Western_Digital> cool
[20:56] <BartB88> I gotta allow gopher in here
01[20:56] <Western_Digital> hmm
01[20:57] <Western_Digital> AYE THIS: http://www.thenaac.net/Alliance/index.php?showtopic=8629&pid=63474&st=0&#entry63474
01[20:57] <Western_Digital> DO NOW
[20:58] <BartB88> done
01[20:58] <Western_Digital> w00t
[20:58] <BartB88> and Gopher should be on his way
01[20:58] <Western_Digital> cool
01[20:58] <Western_Digital> I will buy nukes tommarow
03[20:58] * Retrieving #NAACSenate modes...
[20:58] <BartB88> XD
03[20:58] * Western_Digital changes topic to 'THE SECKSI SENATE'
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[20:59] <BartB88> I wish gopher would hurry up
[20:59] <BartB88> lol
[20:59] <BartB88> I have him on MSN
01[20:59] <Western_Digital> hmm
01[20:59] <Western_Digital> what is it?
[21:00] <BartB88> I dunno
01[21:00] <Western_Digital> RAWR
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[21:00] <BartB88> oh
01[21:00] <Western_Digital> Needs to ident
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01[21:01] <Western_Digital> HYELLO
[21:01] <BartB88> XD
[21:02] <BartB88> Well this is it
[21:02] <Gopherbashi> oy
[21:02] <BartB88> lol
[21:02] <Gopherbashi> two senators!  :P
01[21:02] <Western_Digital> WOW
[21:02] <BartB88> XD
[21:02] <Gopherbashi> its like the werebot game  :D
01[21:02] <Western_Digital> Let's do this
[21:02] <BartB88> I hope you like my lead line lair
[21:02] <BartB88> Okay top on my agenda was Emergency Elcetions
01[21:02] <Western_Digital> ZOMG
[21:02] <BartB88> Gopher has that started
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> I elect Melagius and theDiz
[21:03] <Gopherbashi> yesm
[21:03] <BartB88> Thanks
[21:03] <BartB88> Next move to is to get my prop voted on
[21:03] <Gopherbashi> f*** i forgot to end nominations  :P
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> OH!
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> SMOOTH
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> Gopher, AYE this http://www.thenaac.net/Alliance/index.php?showtopic=8629&pid=63474&st=0&#entry63474
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> My nuke request
[21:03] <BartB88> The ballot referendum passed
01[21:03] <Western_Digital> Yah I haerd
[21:03] <BartB88> umm
[21:04] <Gopherbashi> just a sec
01[21:04] <Western_Digital> I would like to be  a receiver
[21:04] <BartB88> Why is gopher aying it?
[21:04] <Gopherbashi> alright, we're talking about ballots now?
01[21:04] <Western_Digital> of the ballot
01[21:04] <Western_Digital> Can I be a receiver of the ballots?
[21:04] <BartB88> depends what they choose
[21:05] <Gopherbashi> we're doing votes to narrow it down still?
[21:05] <Gopherbashi> kk
01[21:05] <Western_Digital> yah?
[21:05] <BartB88> after they choose the MoI proceeeds with executing the method
01[21:05] <Western_Digital> NEXT:
01[21:05] <Western_Digital> ...
[21:05] <BartB88> WD slow down
01[21:05] <Western_Digital> NO U! k
[21:05] <BartB88> When were you plann on doing these?
[21:05] <BartB88> After senat elections, now?
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> doing what?
[21:06] <BartB88> Starting the vote for the ballot type
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> Ah
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> I will do it
[21:06] <Gopherbashi> might as well start now
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> WHat should I say?
[21:06] <Gopherbashi> actually
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> I SHALL DO IT
[21:06] <Gopherbashi> wait until after the emergency ones are done
[21:06] <BartB88> k
01[21:06] <Western_Digital> k
[21:07] <BartB88> Gopher has to run it WD
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> I C
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> Yall' will vote for me right?
[21:07] <BartB88> Fianl part ofthis short meeting
[21:07] <Gopherbashi> i'll do it after we're done the emergency elections
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> kool
[21:07] <BartB88> Constitution
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> NEXTX
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> oh that
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> hmmm
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> Well, Option 1
01[21:07] <Western_Digital> send WD the spiz to an alliance with one and steal it, then change the names
[21:07] <Gopherbashi> lol
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> I like it
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> AYE
[21:08] <BartB88> I move that the Senate's constitution work be mergerd with the MOI's commissioned work
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> I second
[21:08] <BartB88> alright
[21:08] <BartB88> Gopher
[21:08] <Gopherbashi> hmmm?
[21:08] <Gopherbashi> meaning?
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> P.S., I am keeping logs
[21:08] <BartB88> we started off by considering types of govs
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> hmmm
01[21:08] <Western_Digital> I think we should move to monarchy
[21:08] <Gopherbashi> it would be nice if people talked in my thread  XD
[21:08] <BartB88> maybe putting the types up in a poll to get a feeling of what the ppl want
01[21:09] <Western_Digital> Want me to do that?
[21:09] <Gopherbashi> i can do that
[21:09] <BartB88> aSk Gopher, he's incharge of the consitgution ofming now
[21:09] <BartB88> we're his brainstormers
[21:09] <Gopherbashi> so what are we thinking of?
[21:09] <Gopherbashi> what options do we have?
[21:09] <BartB88> and general helpers
[21:10] <BartB88> Democracy, Republi, Limited Monarchy
01[21:10] <Western_Digital> Federal Republic
[21:10] <BartB88> how are you gonna do that WD?
[21:10] <BartB88> Companies like States?
01[21:10] <Western_Digital> holdo n
[21:10] <BartB88> or Divs like states?>
01[21:11] <Western_Digital> back
01[21:11] <Western_Digital> what?
01[21:11] <Western_Digital> What you mean?
01[21:11] <Western_Digital> SPEAKZ
[21:11] <Gopherbashi> what do you mean by federal republic?
[21:11] <BartB88> Fed. Republic requires "Staes" or "Provinces"
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> ah
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> yah, that sounds cook
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> cool*
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> We need like, 5
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> Georgia, California, uh
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> Alaska
[21:12] <Gopherbashi> ...
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> wat'
01[21:12] <Western_Digital> WAT
01[21:13] <Western_Digital> I could chair it or something
[21:13] <BartB88> lol
[21:13] <BartB88> WD
01[21:13] <Western_Digital> WAT U
[21:13] <BartB88> We're just discussing general
01[21:13] <Western_Digital> I c
[21:14] <BartB88> one sec
01[21:14] <Western_Digital> WHY
[21:14] <BartB88> HVL has wueried me
01[21:14] <Western_Digital> HVL?
[21:14] <Gopherbashi> HCL?
01[21:14] <Western_Digital> OH!
[21:14] <Gopherbashi> litz is here now
01[21:14] <Western_Digital> Hey, just a question, is this meeting private, or am I aloud to post the logs?
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[21:15] <Gopherbashi> hey litz
01[21:15] <Western_Digital> WHO ARE YOU!?
[21:15] <BartB88> This is an Exec Session
[21:15] <HighChancellorLitz> sorry i'm a dork
[21:15] <BartB88> IT is private
[21:15] <HighChancellorLitz> and missed most of it
01[21:15] <Western_Digital> I c
01[21:15] <Western_Digital> didn't miss to much
01[21:15] <Western_Digital> I will send logs if you want
[21:16] <HighChancellorLitz> not right now
01[21:16] <Western_Digital> kk
[21:16] <BartB88> You can post logs in MoI private room
01[21:16] <Western_Digital> I might
[21:16] <BartB88> and Seate Chambers
[21:16] <HighChancellorLitz> put em in senate chambers
[21:16] <BartB88> HCL
01[21:16] <Western_Digital> okay then
[21:16] <HighChancellorLitz> Yes b art
[21:16] <HighChancellorLitz> bart*
[21:16] <BartB88> We were discussing gov't types that we coul;d poll the membership with
[21:17] <BartB88> (Fed) Republic, Limited Monarchy, Democracy
[21:17] <BartB88> is what we have so far
01[21:17] <Western_Digital> hmm
[21:17] <HighChancellorLitz> hhmmmm
01[21:17] <Western_Digital> How about COmmunist :D
01[21:17] <Western_Digital> ICAN SEE THAT!
[21:17] <HighChancellorLitz> I'm partial to the limited monarchy
[21:17] <BartB88> that is eco system
[21:17] <BartB88> Lim monarchy is my pref too
01[21:18] <Western_Digital> Yah, that's cool
01[21:18] <Western_Digital> How about Anarchy for a gag?
[21:18] <BartB88> but I dunno that NAAC would go for that
[21:18] <Gopherbashi> how do you guys see a limited monarchy?
[21:18] <BartB88> No gags, yet WD
01[21:18] <Western_Digital> RAWR
[21:18] <Gopherbashi> lol
01[21:18] <Western_Digital> Gopher, it coudl work
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[21:18] <BartB88> Like the current system with an unclected prtector
[21:18] <Gopherbashi> im not saying it couldnt
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[21:19] <BartB88> choosing the monarch would be hard
[21:19] <Gopherbashi> im just asking how you guys envision it
[21:19] <BartB88> Holyone doesn;t fit the activity req
[21:19] <HighChancellorLitz> that i don't know
01[21:19] <Western_Digital> I don't know
[21:19] <HighChancellorLitz> i'll be monarch
[21:19] <BartB88> Like Britian after the Magna Carta?
01[21:19] <Western_Digital> LAWL
[21:19] <BartB88> XD
01[21:19] <Western_Digital> Yes, I knpow what you are talking about
01[21:20] <Western_Digital> Magna Carta, hmmm
[21:20] <Gopherbashi> let's go with the limited monarchy suggestion for now
01[21:20] <Western_Digital> That sounds bad
[21:20] <BartB88> k
[21:20] <BartB88> lol
[21:20] <Gopherbashi> how "limited" is the monarchy?
[21:20] <BartB88> Senate/GA vote
01[21:20] <Western_Digital> limited, as the govt has to go by law
[21:20] <BartB88> Judicial could be elected too
[21:20] <HighChancellorLitz> brb
01[21:21] <Western_Digital> WAT
[21:21] <BartB88> ye
[21:21] <BartB88> s
[21:21] <BartB88> I said it
[21:21] <BartB88> the J word with the E word
[21:21] <Gopherbashi> Senate/GA vote overturns king's decision?
01[21:21] <Western_Digital> I think
01[21:21] <Western_Digital> Like a veto
[21:22] <BartB88> yeah
[21:22] <BartB88> and the fact that he monarch has to follow the const
01[21:22] <Western_Digital> hm
[21:22] <BartB88> like the IGC if you know who they were
[21:23] <Gopherbashi> if we wanted to go this way, could we take constitution editing powers out of the king's hands?
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01[21:23] <Western_Digital> that would work
[21:23] <BartB88> http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/IGC
[21:23] <BartB88> not exactly like
[21:23] <BartB88> but simialr too
01[21:24] <Western_Digital> O RLY
[21:25] <Gopherbashi> hmmm
[21:25] <BartB88> YA RLY
01[21:25] <Western_Digital> I c
[21:25] <Gopherbashi> so basically the king approves all treaties, etc.
01[21:26] <Western_Digital> I think that is cool
[21:26] <BartB88> yeah
[21:26] <Gopherbashi> so would there be a senate in this case?
[21:26] <BartB88> GA/Senate has to approve too
[21:26] <BartB88> WEll that could go either way
01[21:26] <Western_Digital> YES
01[21:26] <Western_Digital> SENATE
01[21:26] <Western_Digital> HAVE TO HAVE THAT
[21:26] <BartB88> Personally
[21:27] <BartB88> I dislike it
01[21:27] <Western_Digital> I dislike that view
01[21:27] <Western_Digital> :D
[21:27] <Gopherbashi> how do you feel about elected ministers?
01[21:27] <Western_Digital> I like that
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> I think that is the best way to do it
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> AND
[21:28] <BartB88> IF if protector has say-so over them
[21:28] <Gopherbashi> of course
[21:28] <Gopherbashi> the protector gives them orders
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> I think the runner up in protector/president/king/w.e is WRONG we should vote the VP in
[21:28] <BartB88> and they are just an "Arm" of the protecotr"
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> I think the runner up in protector/president/king/w.e is WRONG we should vote the VP in
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> WHo likes that? ^^^
[21:28] <BartB88> WD
[21:28] <BartB88> NO
01[21:28] <Western_Digital> Why?
[21:28] <BartB88> and off topic
01[21:29] <Western_Digital> Still, on the idea of GOVT, 
[21:29] <BartB88> VP should be appointed
[21:29] <BartB88> yeas
[21:29] <BartB88> but we've moved to mored the fine tuning of the Limited Monarchy sytem
01[21:29] <Western_Digital> CAncel my last
01[21:29] <Western_Digital> I think we need ministers though
[21:30] <Gopherbashi> elected ministers?  :P
01[21:30] <Western_Digital> Like, MoI
01[21:30] <Western_Digital> MoD
01[21:30] <Western_Digital> MoFa
01[21:30] <Western_Digital> MoFa <OWNS\
[21:30] <BartB88> yes, if not a republican for Elected ministers
[21:30] <Gopherbashi> hmmm?
01[21:31] <Western_Digital> hmm
[21:31] <BartB88> I am for elected ministers in Lim Monarch and Democracy but not in (Fed) Republic
[21:31] <Gopherbashi> ah
01[21:31] <Western_Digital> I c 
01[21:31] <Western_Digital> I agree
[21:31] <Gopherbashi> i'm getting the sense that elected ministers are highly supported
01[21:31] <Western_Digital> Yes
01[21:32] <Western_Digital> THAT HAS TO STAY
[21:32] <Gopherbashi> and i think that's a good way to go
01[21:32] <Western_Digital> SO, will any of this happen, or what?
[21:33] <Gopherbashi> we'll see
[21:33] <Gopherbashi> hopefully
[21:33] <BartB88> This is formative stages WD
01[21:33] <Western_Digital> i c
[21:33] <BartB88> I hope it goes through
[21:33] <Gopherbashi> hell, all we need is the approval of grub and 2 senators  :P
[21:33] <BartB88> lol
[21:33] <BartB88> well
[21:33] <BartB88> 3 after the emergenc elections
[21:33] <Gopherbashi> lol
01[21:33] <Western_Digital> lawl
01[21:33] <Western_Digital> I will approve
01[21:33] <Western_Digital> so will bart
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> and gopher
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> so it is done
[21:34] <Gopherbashi> im not a senator  :P
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> oh yah!
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> Litz is though
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> NOW! All we need is GRUB
[21:34] <Gopherbashi> ok, so right now we have
[21:34] <Gopherbashi> 1) elected senators
[21:34] <Gopherbashi> 2) limited monarchy
[21:34] <BartB88> yep
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> k
01[21:34] <Western_Digital> that all?
[21:35] <BartB88> well and 4 possible forms of gov
[21:35] <BartB88> brb
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> What about military though?
[21:35] <BartB88> may be a while
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> Would that change?
[21:35] <Gopherbashi> monarchy is a bad term, i prefer to say "long-term leader" :P
[21:35] <BartB88> Only with new MoD
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> heh
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> WD for MoD
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> :D
[21:35] <Gopherbashi> military isn't a constitutional issue
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> we just need one of you to win protector!
01[21:35] <Western_Digital> I know that
[21:36] <Gopherbashi> lol
01[21:36] <Western_Digital> ALso, who has the time to write up a NEW constitutiom?
[21:36] <Gopherbashi> me  :P
01[21:36] <Western_Digital> lawl
01[21:36] <Western_Digital> to much time
[21:36] <Gopherbashi> after the 7th
[21:36] <Gopherbashi> cuz til then im swamped
[21:37] <Gopherbashi> so, we agree that we want some sort of senate-like organization
01[21:37] <Western_Digital> yes
01[21:37] <Western_Digital> and ministers
[21:37] <Gopherbashi> what role do we see this senate playing?
01[21:37] <Western_Digital> Well,
01[21:37] <Western_Digital> depends
01[21:37] <Western_Digital> what is the pres/protect allowed to do?
[21:38] <BartB88> Only with new MoD
01[21:38] <Western_Digital> can Senate Veto?
[21:38] <Gopherbashi> ha, that's also what we need to decide
[21:38] <BartB88> grrr
[21:38] <BartB88> back
[21:38] <Gopherbashi> k
01[21:38] <Western_Digital> We need grub in here
01[21:38] <Western_Digital> Get things done faster
[21:39] <Gopherbashi> grub aint around
01[21:39] <Western_Digital> I know
[21:39] <Gopherbashi> well, if we have elected ministers
01[21:39] <Western_Digital> yez
[21:39] <Gopherbashi> does it make sense to have those ministers on the senate?
01[21:39] <Western_Digital> no
01[21:39] <Western_Digital> Senate | ministers, different
[21:39] <BartB88> Well
[21:39] <BartB88> I can see if it is limited monarcht
[21:40] <BartB88> that Senate could be the ministers
01[21:40] <Western_Digital> Hey, I don't know if this is on topic, but what about nuke requests?
[21:40] <BartB88> would take lots of thought though
[21:40] <BartB88> Aye yourself and buy your nuke tomarrow
01[21:40] <Western_Digital> k
01[21:41] <Western_Digital> So, If I aye it, it is passed?
[21:41] <BartB88> yes
[21:41] <BartB88> 2-0
01[21:41] <Western_Digital> cool
[21:41] <BartB88> 2-0-1*
01[21:41] <Western_Digital> PASSEED
[21:41] <BartB88> lol
01[21:42] <Western_Digital> hehe
01[21:42] <Western_Digital> nukes tommarow
[21:42] <BartB88> Well are we done for tonight?
01[21:42] <Western_Digital> I guess
01[21:42] <Western_Digital> nice speaking
[21:42] <BartB88> yeah
[21:42] <BartB88> thanks
[21:43] <Gopherbashi> the positive side i see about having ministers on the senate is that it lets the ministers have a voice - it can form a council of those who are making many of the decisions
01[21:43] <Western_Digital> Okay,
[21:43] <BartB88> WD if you'd post this in the senat chambers
01[21:43] <Western_Digital> let the ministers have a voice, just not 'IN' Senate
01[21:43] <Western_Digital> Bart, I will
[21:43] <BartB88> I agree gopher
[21:43] <Gopherbashi> alright, i guess we're done here
[21:43] <BartB88> k
[21:44] <BartB88> I'm gonna leave you with access Gopher
[21:44] <BartB88> though you can;t allow anyone in you have 50 access
01[21:44] <Western_Digital> You guys leave, so I can close this
01[21:44] <Western_Digital> See yah
[21:44] <Gopherbashi> no one else in, got it
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03[21:44] * Parts: Gopherbashi
Session Close: Fri Mar 02 21:44:45 2007