02 03 08:50:28 <FuzzyBu> IBM: when in doubt, write documentation
02 03 08:50:32 <Sintax> lolol
02 03 08:52:20 <FuzzyBu> Intel: when in doubt, make up an acronym that doesn't mean a thing to anyone, and then sell it as the next big thing
02 03 08:52:24 <peerce> I think this summarizes the state of IBM http://research.microsoft.com/~Gray/papers/MipEnvy.pdf (from about 25 years ago, it hasn't changed much)
02 03 08:52:27 <Sintax> LOL
02 03 08:52:56 <FuzzyBu> Sun: Solution looking for a problem
02 03 08:53:08 <FuzzyBu> SGI: Sure we can do that
02 03 08:53:11 <Sintax> hahaha
02 03 08:53:15 <FuzzyBu> Cray: Your not worthy
02 03 08:53:20 <Sintax> nice one
02 03 08:53:34 <Sintax> HP/Compaq/DEC ?
02 03 08:53:40 <FuzzyBu> HP: Because we can too
02 03 08:53:45 <peerce> DEC: we -had- a better idea...but noone listened.
02 03 08:53:47 <FuzzyBu> DEC: R.I.P
02 03 08:53:50 <Sintax> hahaha
02 03 08:53:59 <FuzzyBu> Compaq: Fark us, we sold out
02 03 08:54:19 <FuzzyBu> Dell: Will someone just buy us out already
02 03 08:54:26 <Sintax> omg lol
02 03 08:54:45 <FuzzyBu> Gateway: Omg Dell just buy us please
02 03 08:54:48 <peerce> ChinaInc: all your base belong to us.
02 03 08:55:05 <FuzzyBu> ThermalTake: All your cooling belong to us
02 03 08:55:22 <Sintax> AMD ?
02 03 08:55:51 <FuzzyBu> AMD: Sun shines on a dogs ass every once in a while
02 03 08:55:53 <peerce> AMD: If Intel really fucks up again in 5 years, we'll have another chance to take over the universe.
02 03 08:56:23 <FuzzyBu> i think mine sounds better
02 03 08:56:56 <peerce> I've worked as a freelance consultant for BOTH amd and intel in the past. AMD were a bunch of cowboys, and Intel was a bunch of Sharks. I dunno which is worse.
02 03 08:57:00 <FuzzyBu> Cisco: Were a bunch of asshats. You need us, but you don't know why, and we won't tell you.
02 03 08:57:10 <FuzzyBu> I've worked for intel twice
02 03 08:57:18 <FuzzyBu> they are a bunch of bloated asshats to me
02 03 08:58:09 <FuzzyBu> Apple: I'm too sexy for a statement
02 03 08:58:27 <karrotx> #solaris: we're to cool for everything else
02 03 08:58:36 <FuzzyBu> gawd damm right
02 03 08:58:39 <FuzzyBu> were so cool
02 03 08:58:50 <peerce> Intel wanted me to testify in a court case against AMD so they could weasel out from under a joint development agreement. Intel's part was hard to program, and generally worthless, AMD's graphics chip was a breeze to use, very cool. Intel's part was 20% faster at _ONE_ writing mode, AMD's part blew it away in every other mode. Intel wanted me to testify that one mode was better.
02 03 08:58:54 <FuzzyBu> we don't even have to come here and were still cool
02 03 08:58:59 <peerce> I told them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
02 03 08:59:24 <FuzzyBu> good
02 03 08:59:31 <FuzzyBu> fark them
02 03 08:59:36 <peerce> I coulda made an easy $20K beiny an 'expert witness' but I dunno if I coulda slept.
02 03 08:59:46 <FuzzyBu> i'm glad you did what you did
02 03 08:59:51 <FuzzyBu> if you didn't believe it
02 03 08:59:53 <FuzzyBu> then don't do it
02 03 09:00:00 <peerce> yeah, I got them principle things.
02 03 09:00:02 <FuzzyBu> 20k really isn't shit if you think about it
02 03 09:00:03 <Sintax> haha
02 03 09:00:05 <peerce> had them for too fucking long.
02 03 09:00:24 <peerce> FuzzyB; no, its not. back then (this was mid/late 80s), that was 4 weeks consulting work
02 03 09:00:32 <karrotx> peerce: 20k is a pretty sweet all road :)
02 03 09:00:34 <FuzzyBu> so 60k
02 03 09:00:47 <FuzzyBu> just to be nice
02 03 09:01:07 <peerce> I was typically billing my clients $5K/week for SW development projects and such.
02 03 09:01:18 <FuzzyBu> platform?
02 03 09:01:53 <peerce> any. ranged from embedded microcode to graphics drivers for windows 2.x/3.x and even DRI GEM :-O (like I said, it was the 80s)
02 03 09:01:54 <Sintax> Ratrophy: should i call these people or ebay msg them about what im looking for
02 03 09:02:14 <FuzzyBu> fun times
02 03 09:02:30 <peerce> lots of firmware and assembler. i was good at that shit until I burned out :D
02 03 09:02:37 <FuzzyBu> heh
02 03 09:02:39 <FuzzyBu> me too
02 03 09:02:49 <FuzzyBu> i actually was proficent in assembley at one time in my life
02 03 09:02:57 <FuzzyBu> that i wrote a whole graphics library
02 03 09:03:05 <FuzzyBu> for a compter programming class
02 03 09:03:13 <FuzzyBu> in assembley
02 03 09:03:20 <FuzzyBu> so the kids learning pascal
02 03 09:03:22 <peerce> I did assembler for nearly 20 years. yeah, we did a whole 3D rendering system in 386/486 assembler, highly optimized
02 03 09:03:27 <FuzzyBu> could have a decent graphics library to work with
02 03 09:03:35 <peerce> using fixed point multiplies for the transformations etc
02 03 09:03:49 <FuzzyBu> fun times
02 03 09:03:56 <FuzzyBu> i miss 16bit real mode
02 03 09:04:01 <peerce> gauraud and phong shading, antialiasing, etc.
02 03 09:04:08 <peerce> realmode blew chunks :D
02 03 09:04:13 <FuzzyBu> i know
02 03 09:04:17 <FuzzyBu> but i still loved it
02 03 09:04:20 <Ratrophy> Sintax, ask them about an item that you might be interest in in their auctions, the continue on with whatever the hell you want
02 03 09:04:25 <peerce> EMS, XMS, etc etc, B A R F
02 03 09:04:31 <FuzzyBu> heh
02 03 09:04:32 <FuzzyBu> yea
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