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18:11 < Hejog_> http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
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--- Log opened Mon Jan 01 19:31:03 2007
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21:49 < JinxStinx> Happy New Year stinkers
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20:01 <+Hejog_> jesus, no one gives a fuck if some guy disconnects from irc
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18:37 < n3x^> this actually nildram?
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19:11 < doser> well i dont want to turn into a joinparter, was just looking
19:11 < doser> so i will say
19:11 < doser> nildram ftw
19:11 < doser> :p
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22:12 < Vindex> Nildram the ISP
22:12 < Vindex> ?
22:12 < Vindex> :)
22:12 <@AdminBot`> :-)
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22:32 <@Mas> not officialy but to do with yes =]
22:32 < Vindex> :)
22:32 <@AdminBot`> :-O
22:33 <@|Andy|> lo
22:33 < Vindex> Hello
22:33 <@AdminBot`> hi Vindex
22:34 < Vindex> You guys work at nilly ?
22:34 <@|Andy|> nope
22:34 <@|Andy|> this is an unoffical channel
22:34 < Vindex> Oh :)
22:34 < Vindex> that sucks
22:34 < Vindex> hehe
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23:23 < JinxStinx> Did you know? Bexy is a ginger join #Bexy to tease her!
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17:21 < n3x^> Howdie
17:37 <@Mas> o/
17:42 < n3x^> this nilly?
17:42 < n3x^> or just so happen to b called the same?
18:12 <@Mas> to do with aye
18:12 <@Mas> not official channel or owt
18:13 * Mas slaps n3x^ around a bit with a large trout
18:14 < n3x^> oh
18:14 < n3x^> on phone to support atm
18:14 <@Mas> :)
18:14 < n3x^> :p
18:14 <@Mas> can help if we can tho =]
18:15 <@Mas> dont work for nilly tho
18:15 < n3x^> support was useless yesterday, lesse if they ne better today :p
18:15 <@Mas> whats up like
18:15 < n3x^> got 8meg
18:16 < n3x^> ping is always 30+ to about 90
18:16 < n3x^> download speeds are awfull
18:16 <@Mas> interleaving off?
18:16 < n3x^> whats that :[
18:16 <@Mas> BT's error controling
18:16 < n3x^> how i get rid of that
18:16 <@Mas> if first ping is usualy above 40+ usualy interleaving
18:17 <@Mas> u have to ask for it to be turned off
18:17 <@Mas> which router do u have?
18:17 <@Mas> make model
18:17 < n3x^> 834
18:17 < n3x^> netgear
18:17 <@Mas> ok
18:17 <@Mas> bit tricky to get the stats to determine by urself let me get my notes =]
18:17 < n3x^> :]
18:19 <@Mas> u on the phone at the mo?
18:19 <@Mas> also your download speed problem, what speeds are you getting ?
18:19 < n3x^> 350
18:20 < n3x^> tops
18:20 < n3x^> generally lower
18:20 < n3x^> it kinda depends on what time of day it is
18:20 <@Mas> whats the sync rate on ur router?
18:20 < n3x^> traces r all dodgey, they vary
18:20 < n3x^> i cant seem to be able to access my router :/
18:21 < n3x^> 192.16.0.1 right?
18:21 <@Mas> depends =]
18:21 < n3x^> it keeps sending me to google
18:21 <@Mas> erm
18:21 <@Mas> try this
18:21 < n3x^> queue position 1
18:21 < n3x^> :o
18:21 <@Mas> go to start->run
18:21 <@Mas> type cmd
18:21 <@Mas> press enter
18:21 <@Mas> in dos (black window) type "ipconfig"
18:21 <@Mas> whats the default gateway
18:22 < n3x^> kk
18:22 < n3x^> got it
18:22 < n3x^> Modem
18:22 < n3x^> ADSL Firmware Version 6.01.00.12
18:22 < n3x^> Modem Status Connected
18:22 < n3x^> DownStream Connection Speed 8128 kbps
18:22 < n3x^> UpStream Connection Speed 448 kbps
18:22 < n3x^> VPI 0
18:22 < n3x^> VCI 38
18:22 < n3x^> thats all lovly
18:23 <@Mas> yep
18:23 < n3x^> if only it performed that way
18:23 < n3x^> stil on hold
18:23 < n3x^> lol
18:23 <@Mas> however, have u lost connection somepoint last few days?
18:23 < n3x^> yeh
18:23 < n3x^> constantly
18:23 <@Mas> one possibility it has dropped lower at some point to say sync rate of 4000kbps
18:23 <@Mas> will take 3 days to resync line speed back up
18:24 < n3x^> been like this since i first got it
18:24 < n3x^> like a month ago
18:24 <@Mas> oh
18:24 <@Mas> whats the noise level?
18:24 <@Mas> "Show statistics" on that router page
18:24 < n3x^> where do i c that? :]
18:24 <@Mas> be like this
18:24 <@Mas> Line Attenuation 48 db 15.5 db
18:24 <@Mas> Noise Margin 4 db 26 db
18:25 <@Mas> click the "Show Statistics" on router status
18:25 < n3x^> ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
18:25 < n3x^> Connection Speed 8128 kbps 448 kbps
18:25 < n3x^> Line Attenuation 29 db 7.5 db
18:25 < n3x^> Noise Margin 8 db 25 db
18:25 <@Mas> ok that aint bad
18:26 <@Mas> ok obvious questions...
18:26 <@Mas> plugged into master socket?
18:26 <@Mas> got microfilter on?
18:26 < n3x^> yeh
18:26 < n3x^> :p
18:27 <@Mas> hmm
18:27 < n3x^> Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
18:27 < n3x^> over a maximum of 30 hops:
18:27 < n3x^> 1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 0din.mshome.net [192.168.0.1]
18:27 < n3x^> 2 41 ms 51 ms 32 ms l1.ar20.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [195.112.5.29]
18:27 < n3x^> 3 31 ms 28 ms 29 ms ge-1-0-3.cr01.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.18]
18:27 < n3x^> 4 29 ms 30 ms 30 ms ae0-0.cr02.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [62.241.161.210]
18:27 < n3x^> 5 66 ms 46 ms 59 ms pc9.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.13]
18:27 < n3x^> 6 32 ms 42 ms 49 ms g1-1-6.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
18:27 < n3x^> 7 73 ms 30 ms 29 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
18:27 < n3x^> 1.14]
18:27 < n3x^> 8 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
18:27 < n3x^> Trace complete.
18:27 < n3x^> see :[
18:28 < n3x^> lol bn on hold 21mins
18:28 <@Mas> aye sometimes u get straight through but quite alot u dont =]
18:28 <@Mas> thats one tracert all over the place= ]
18:29 < n3x^> yeh
18:29 < n3x^> nilly said my cs rates were borked, not my prob, i blame pipex..
18:29 <@Mas> Tracing route to clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
18:29 <@Mas> over a maximum of 30 hops:
18:29 <@Mas> 1 3 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.254
18:29 <@Mas> 2 26 ms 26 ms 34 ms l1.ar21.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [195.112.5.30]
18:29 <@Mas> 3 29 ms 26 ms 25 ms ge-0-1-1-0.cr02.gs1.dsl.pipex.net [84.12.224.25]
18:29 <@Mas> 4 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms pc9.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.13]
18:29 <@Mas> 5 27 ms 27 ms 25 ms g2-48-5.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
18:29 <@Mas> 6 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
18:29 <@Mas> 7 26 ms 27 ms 27 ms clarity.jolt.co.uk [195.149.21.11]
18:30 < n3x^> mine never been under 30
18:30 < n3x^> if i trace in the middle of the night they r all 30
18:30 < n3x^> but never under
18:31 <@Mas> i had a bad ping problem like yours about 2 months ago
18:31 <@Mas> i had to get Nildram to get BT to do a lift and shift as they call it
18:31 < n3x^> im in central london, its not conjestion is it?
18:31 <@Mas> possible
18:31 <@Mas> checked the conjestion checkers
18:31 < n3x^> yeh, says unconjested
18:32 <@Mas> took me a good month or so to get BT to come out and work on my line with a very similar problem
18:32 <@Mas> :|
18:32 <@Mas> my pings where 40-80 like 50+ avg
18:32 < n3x^> yeh mine too
18:33 <@Mas> then some BT gimp wrongly disconnected my line
18:33 <@Mas> after the engineers managed to sort it all otu
18:33 < n3x^> i used to get 14ping with bulldog 2mb last yr
18:33 <@Mas> gave them a right ear full =[]
18:34 <@Mas> aye id expect that on ur line
18:34 <@Mas> and in london, well more than my ping since im way up north =]
18:34 < n3x^> :]
18:34 <@Mas> still in queue?
18:34 < n3x^> no :s
18:34 < n3x^> they took me out of it
18:34 < n3x^> now she keeps saying please stay on hold repeatedly
18:34 <@Mas> ah
18:35 <@Mas> :)
18:35 < n3x^> 29mins
18:35 < n3x^> woo :D
18:35 < n3x^> i was on hold with bulldog for 2 and a half hours once
18:35 < n3x^> hence i changed to nilly
18:35 < n3x^> lol
18:35 <@Mas> speak to them, just say your ping is unplayable, unreliable all over the shot etc. Getting to the point it is unusable etc
18:35 <@Mas> also you may want to post on forum on www.thinkbroadband.com
18:36 <@Mas> there is support guys from nilly read those
18:36 <@Mas> JasonJ solved my problem from the forum
18:36 <@Mas> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=nildram
18:37 < n3x^> bn reading through the forums
18:37 < n3x^> never seem to find any1 with my problem
18:38 < n3x^> how they solve urs
18:38 < n3x^> swap u over to a diff exchange?
18:38 <@Mas> had to get BT to do a lift and shift
18:38 <@Mas> nah they basically have to swap my cables around at the exchange
18:38 <@Mas> or plug me into a different socket or something =]
18:39 <@Mas> all i know was it was called a "lift & shift"
18:39 < n3x^> lol
18:39 <@Mas> then they did a "stabalization" on the line
18:39 <@Mas> which solved it
18:39 <@Mas> also connected 1mb faster
18:39 <@Mas> used to be 4mb
18:39 <@Mas> did that put me up to 6mb
18:39 <@Mas> sorry thats 2mb :)
18:39 < n3x^> but my trace is all over the place at like every hop, surely it would only be at my exchange if i had probs there
18:40 <@Mas> its a possibility
18:40 <@Mas> mine was all over the shot like that
18:40 <@Mas> let me get my post on forum
18:45 <@Mas> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=nildram&Number=2778746&page=&view=&sb=&o=
18:47 <@Mas> just make a post regarding your problem, hopefully u will get someone like jasonj reading it
18:48 < n3x^> got the phone picked up
18:48 < n3x^> 2secs
18:48 < n3x^> :p
18:55 < n3x^> well that was pointless
18:55 < n3x^> lol
18:55 < n3x^> he couldnt find my email
18:55 < n3x^> and sent it on to another depatment
18:55 < n3x^> apparently they will be contacting me shortly
18:55 < n3x^> ur post seems really like my prob
18:59 <@Mas> what did he need ur email for?
19:00 < n3x^> email of my traces
19:00 < n3x^> they want "proof"
19:00 < n3x^> and lol @ ur thread, its exactly the same as whats happenin to me
19:02 <@Mas> ah
19:04 <@Mas> they ask you to do 1 in early morn, 1 at dinner time, 1 early afternoon and one at night?
19:05 < n3x^> nah, dns, game server, jolt, bbc
19:09 <@Mas> did u ask about interleaving?
19:09 < n3x^> he was clueless
19:09 < n3x^> but he included it in the email he sent to whoever he passed it on it
19:10 <@Mas> one way of checking via ur router
19:10 < n3x^> aswell as "lift&shift"
19:10 <@Mas> :)
19:10 < n3x^> :]
19:10 <@Mas> http://192.168.0.1/setup.cgi?todo=debug
19:10 < n3x^> http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=nildram&Number=2629098&page=&view=&sb=&o=
19:10 <@Mas> if u go to that (presuming ur ip is that for router)
19:10 < n3x^> lol
19:11 < n3x^> im there
19:11 <@Mas> one i pasted ^ will work with urs
19:11 < n3x^> Debug Enable
19:11 <@Mas> ok
19:11 < n3x^> what do i do now?
19:11 < n3x^> :s
19:11 <@Mas> Type: Telnet 192.168.0.1 <Enter>
19:11 <@Mas> At the # prompt, type: cat /proc/avalanche/avsar_modem_stats
19:11 <@Mas> as it says in that post =]
19:11 < n3x^> :p
19:12 <@Mas> basically looking for errors in the fastpath bit
19:13 <@Mas> like CRC: 355
19:13 <@Mas> etc
19:13 < n3x^> 0 0
19:13 < n3x^> 14697 FEC tho
19:14 <@Mas> [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
19:14 <@Mas> CRC: 3 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
19:14 <@Mas> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:14 <@Mas> [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
19:14 <@Mas> CRC: 519 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
19:14 <@Mas> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:14 <@Mas> whats it got in the interleaved, any in there?
19:15 < n3x^> [Upstream (TX) Interleave path]
19:15 < n3x^> CRC: 0 FEC: 408 NCD: 0
19:15 < n3x^> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:15 < n3x^> [Downstream (RX) Interleave path]
19:15 < n3x^> CRC: 0 FEC: 14697 NCD: 0
19:15 < n3x^> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:15 < n3x^> [Upstream (TX) Fast path]
19:15 < n3x^> CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 1
19:15 < n3x^> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:15 < n3x^> [Downstream (RX) Fast path]
19:15 < n3x^> CRC: 0 FEC: 0 NCD: 0
19:15 < n3x^> LCD: 0 HEC: 0
19:15 < n3x^> on or off?
19:16 <@Mas> that looks on to me
19:16 <@Mas> reading up on FEC
19:16 <@Mas> id of expected it to be in crc
19:17 < n3x^> what is FEC?
19:17 <@Mas> not entirely sure
19:17 <@Mas> gimme a mo
19:17 < n3x^> :]
19:18 <@Mas> had a page a while back with all the explanations
19:18 <@Mas> forward error connection
19:19 <@Mas> by the looks of it
19:19 < n3x^> which means? :D
19:19 <@Mas> chuff knows =]
19:19 <@Mas> not good tho id of thought
19:19 < n3x^> lol
19:19 < n3x^> results are results
19:20 < n3x^> do i turn debug off?
19:21 <@Mas> back
19:21 <@Mas> lose net conn at 19:20 & 21:00 every day
19:22 <@Mas> apparently its to do with interleaving doing its job correcting errors
19:22 <@Mas> but thats alot of errors
19:22 < n3x^> oh
19:22 < n3x^> thought u had interleaving off
19:22 <@Mas> i do
19:23 < n3x^> so why it correcting errors
19:23 < n3x^> :s
19:23 < n3x^> interleaving on apparently doubles ping
19:23 <@Mas> are you a gamer?
19:23 <@Mas> aye
19:23 < n3x^> yah
19:23 <@Mas> dont want interleaving on then
19:24 < n3x^> well lets kill it
19:24 < n3x^> lol
19:24 < n3x^> played a war with 65-70 ping yesterday
19:24 < n3x^> utter waste of time
19:24 <@Mas> best read up on it and understand the consequences (admitently i prefere it off)
19:24 <@Mas> just apparently less stable
19:24 <@Mas> made no diff other then solve my ping problem when i got it disabled
19:24 < n3x^> ur reg borked?
19:25 <@Mas> (before my latest ping/connection problem) :)
19:25 < n3x^> u get much choke/loss
19:25 < n3x^> ?
19:25 <@Mas> my reg?
19:25 < n3x^> do ur bullets register
19:25 < n3x^> :]
19:25 <@Mas> oh yeah no problem with that= ]
19:25 < n3x^> u get much choke/loss?
19:25 <@Mas> not really
19:25 <@Mas> non that i have noticed
19:26 <@Mas> it costs like 14 quid to get it disabled mind =]
19:26 <@Mas> got to get BT to go and flick a switch or whatever =]
19:26 < n3x^> pah, id pay 100 if it meant i could play cs again
19:26 < n3x^> :]
19:26 <@Mas> its worth a shot
19:26 < n3x^> i'll wait to see what nilly say
19:26 < n3x^> says
19:27 < n3x^> how do i go about turning it off?
19:27 <@Mas> i think you right there sales
19:27 <@Mas> but i would speak to support again
19:27 <@Mas> they should know what it is
19:27 <@Mas> but they usualy dont mention it when troubleshooting
19:27 < n3x^> i have to wait till they call me back
19:27 < n3x^> which they blatantly never will
19:27 < n3x^> lol
19:28 <@Mas> nah there support has been pretty good for me
19:28 <@Mas> usualy ring back
19:28 < n3x^> how long?
19:28 < n3x^> same day?
19:28 < n3x^> :[
19:28 <@Mas> if i rang like now they prolly ring me tomoz
19:28 <@Mas> even if they dont just ring up
19:30 <@Mas> they have rang me on same day tho, but i doubt it at this time
19:33 < n3x^> they really jammed aswell
19:34 < n3x^> well interleaving would make sense
19:34 < n3x^> cuz with a 2meg connection there is no interleaving
19:34 < n3x^> only kicks in with 8meg connections
19:35 <@Mas> aye but ur download speed should be better i would have thought
19:36 < n3x^> ive seen it at 700
19:37 < n3x^> but only late at night http
19:37 <@Mas> :)
19:37 <@Mas> well id go down the interleaving router
19:37 <@Mas> -r
19:37 < n3x^> thats fine right?
19:37 <@Mas> get it turned off see if it helps
19:37 < n3x^> im not being greedy
19:37 < n3x^> i dont dl much as it is
19:37 <@Mas> aye =]
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