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Dec 07 14:16:02 * Now talking on #utorrent
Dec 07 14:16:02 * Topic for #utorrent is: Welcome to #utorrent : Latest Version: µTorrent 1.6 stable build 474 : http://utorrent.com/download.php :: English only :: Read The FAQ! http://utorrent.com/faq.php :: µTorrent help ONLY :: WebUI v0.31 public beta 2 is out. Join #utorrent-webui :: WE DON'T HANDLE CONTENT!
Dec 07 14:16:02 * Topic for #utorrent set by icleolion at Mon Nov 20 19:19:08 2006
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Dec 07 15:34:48 <cools> HI
Dec 07 15:35:45 <cools> fukin ell dont no one talk in these rooms
Dec 07 15:36:01 <Higgsy> Yes
Dec 07 15:36:04 <Higgsy> HI
Dec 07 15:36:08 <cools> oh
Dec 07 15:36:09 <cools> ello
Dec 07 15:36:11 <Higgsy> lol
Dec 07 15:36:21 <Higgsy> Your with bt too
Dec 07 15:36:21 <Higgsy> Eww
Dec 07 15:36:28 <cools> with me what?
Dec 07 15:36:33 <Higgsy> Higgsy is connecting from *@host86-147-103-9.range86-147.btcentralplus.com
Dec 07 15:36:45 <Higgsy> :p
Dec 07 15:36:49 <cools> ooo
Dec 07 15:36:59 <cools> this is me first time in ere
Dec 07 15:37:02 <Higgsy> Welcome along
Dec 07 15:37:03 <Higgsy> lol
Dec 07 15:37:18 <Higgsy> There are lots of chat rooms on this server :)
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Dec 07 15:37:54 <cools> ye i just clicked on a few channels but ther the same
Dec 07 15:37:59 <cools> not many ppl talkin
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Dec 07 15:38:07 <Higgsy> lol
Dec 07 15:38:14 <cools> so
Dec 07 15:38:16 <cools> oh well
Dec 07 15:38:20 <cools> wer u from m8?
Dec 07 15:38:22 <Higgsy> #p2p-net is the servers chan
Dec 07 15:38:23 <Higgsy> we all talk there
Dec 07 15:38:27 <Higgsy> im from down south
Dec 07 15:38:36 <Higgsy> hampshire/portsmouth
Dec 07 15:38:40 <cools> ahhh
Dec 07 15:38:41 <Higgsy> You?
Dec 07 15:38:42 <cools> i no
Dec 07 15:38:47 <cools> just by liverpool
Dec 07 15:38:50 <Higgsy> ahhh sweet
Dec 07 15:38:51 <cools> well
Dec 07 15:38:55 <cools> just over the water
Dec 07 15:38:58 <Higgsy> lol
Dec 07 15:38:58 <cools> mersey
Dec 07 15:39:00 <cools> lol
Dec 07 15:39:00 <Higgsy> U a blue?
Dec 07 15:39:10 <cools> nah dont do footy bores the shit outta me
Dec 07 15:39:14 <Higgsy> lol
Dec 07 15:39:15 <Higgsy> i do :D
Dec 07 15:39:18 <Higgsy> BLUE ARMY
Dec 07 15:39:20 <Higgsy> :P
Dec 07 15:39:22 <cools> lol
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Dec 07 16:36:10 <_GuestD4DC81> helo, can give-me a help here please ? my announce get it, left=587202560 for example, how i calculate the time left to the download ?
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Dec 07 16:39:15 <MalMen> better :)
Dec 07 16:40:27 <_5618_> left=587202560 ?
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Dec 07 16:40:46 <MalMen> yes´~´
Dec 07 16:40:54 <_5618_> where do you see that?
Dec 07 16:41:00 <MalMen> on announce
Dec 07 16:41:12 <MalMen> 213.13.234.148 - - [07/Dec/2006:15:31:16 +0000] "GET /announce.php?...........
Dec 07 16:41:43 <_5618_> ...
Dec 07 16:41:58 <_5618_> where in µTorrent?
Dec 07 16:42:40 <MalMen> info_hash=%d5%3c%88%da%efY%cb%effa%9d%c7gz%98%5e%9e%ff%d5U&peer_id=-UT1600-%da%81%a2%1e%a7M%fb%a3%13YrU&port=21910&uploaded=0&downloaded=0&left=2386992043&key=53056DE3&numwant=200&compact=1&no_peer_id=1 HTTP/1.1" 200 160 "-" "uTorrent/1600"
Dec 07 16:42:46 <MalMen> on the tracker
Dec 07 16:43:36 <_5618_> which sectopn under Tracker?
Dec 07 16:43:39 <_5618_> section
Dec 07 16:44:05 <MalMen> on announce
Dec 07 16:44:37 <_5618_> there is no such section
Dec 07 16:45:00 <_5618_> tracker url, tracker status, update in, dht status
Dec 07 16:45:14 <_5618_> that's all 4 subsections
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Dec 07 17:03:44 <ChatUser> is it possible to have my computer as a static address and the rest on the router as dhcp?
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Dec 07 17:46:21 <Bram> y0
Dec 07 17:46:24 <ludde> y0 y0
Dec 07 17:46:30 <ludde> :p
Dec 07 17:46:39 <Bram> how can I be a 3117 hAX0R?
Dec 07 17:46:53 <Ultima> O.O
Dec 07 17:47:05 <Ultima> 1337
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Dec 07 17:47:09 <Ultima> ;D
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Dec 07 17:48:17 <Bram> utorrent moderators should check their email
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Dec 07 17:49:22 <UrFr|3nD> how increase Download speed in uTorrent
Dec 07 17:50:48 <Ultima> have you checked the setup guide?
Dec 07 17:50:56 <Bram> try tightening the screws on your wireless hub
Dec 07 17:51:05 <Ultima> heh
Dec 07 17:51:23 <ludde> Bram: i thought wireless hubs were glued.. not screwed..
Dec 07 17:51:36 <ludde> maybe that only applies to gigabit ethernet hubs..
Dec 07 17:51:47 <UrFr|3nD> i dont have wireless
Dec 07 17:51:52 <UrFr|3nD> i have cable net
Dec 07 17:51:55 <ludde> aha!
Dec 07 17:51:56 <Ultima> UrFr|3nD: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=15992
Dec 07 17:52:01 <Bram> they're usually pressure-treated for extra efficiency
Dec 07 17:52:15 <ludde> UrFr|3nD: did you try vacuuming it?
Dec 07 17:53:53 <UrFr|3nD> my DL speed 2.0Kb/s
Dec 07 17:54:03 <UrFr|3nD> how i increase 10KB
Dec 07 17:55:03 <UrFr|3nD> any body know about usenext
Dec 07 17:55:08 <schnurlos> bbl
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Dec 07 18:15:39 <alcaholjunkie> evening all ^_^
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Dec 07 18:15:50 <Bram> 9am jdod
Dec 07 18:15:54 <ignorantcow> EVENING MY FINE FELLA
Dec 07 18:15:57 <Bram> 9am here
Dec 07 18:16:06 <ignorantcow> :o Bram
Dec 07 18:16:08 <Jooon> morning Bram :)
Dec 07 18:16:09 <cinedot> stupid question.. what does the red arrow mean?
Dec 07 18:16:15 <cinedot> bad connection or bad seeds?
Dec 07 18:16:18 <Bram> hey there jooon
Dec 07 18:16:22 <alcaholjunkie> jdod? o.0 lol, using an AOL brand keyboard Bram ;-)
Dec 07 18:16:37 <Bram> I neglected to switch back to dvorak
Dec 07 18:16:40 <alcaholjunkie> cinedot: means there's a tracker error
Dec 07 18:16:43 <Jooon> Bram: I heard greg enjoyed Djungelvrål
Dec 07 18:16:59 <Bram> 'a' and 'm' are both in the same spot on both qwerty and dvorak
Dec 07 18:17:05 <alcaholjunkie> cinedot: to get more specific, highlight the torrent, then go into the general tab aand look at the tracker status
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Dec 07 18:17:19 <alcaholjunkie> be more* damn my typing :-/
Dec 07 18:17:31 <ludde> Bram: why do you use dvorak and not colemak? :)
Dec 07 18:17:50 <cinedot> alcaholjunkie: ah, thx.
Dec 07 18:17:51 <Jooon> ludde: have you adapted to colemak yet?
Dec 07 18:17:53 <Bram> jooon, yeah, he said the girls were a bit too much like barbie dolls for his taste though
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Dec 07 18:18:03 <ludde> Jooon: i havn't really tried..
Dec 07 18:18:21 <Jooon> sweden, land of the barbie doll girls :)
Dec 07 18:18:46 <alcaholjunkie> Jooon: the women there have no nipples? o.0
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Dec 07 18:18:55 <ignorantcow> haha.
Dec 07 18:19:12 <alcaholjunkie> would of mentioned some other anatomy but didn't want to be too graphic ^_^ lol
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Dec 07 18:20:14 <ludde> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17278
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Dec 07 18:20:54 <Bram> ludde: I think colemak came out years after I learned dvorak
Dec 07 18:21:01 <ludde> yeah
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Dec 07 18:22:56 <matta> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17279
Dec 07 18:23:09 <matta> Everyone should take a moment and read that forum post
Dec 07 18:24:29 * ignorantcow has changed the topic to: Welcome to #utorrent : Latest Version: Torrent 1.6 stable build 474 : http://utorrent.com/download.php :: English only :: Read The FAQ! http://utorrent.com/faq.php :: Torrent help ONLY :: WebUI v0.31 public beta 2 is out. Join #utorrent-webui :: WE DON'T HANDLE CONTENT! :: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtop
Dec 07 18:24:30 <Jooon> matta: eeh, that forum name is 1 levenshtein distance wrong
Dec 07 18:24:46 <Directrix> forum "uTorrent/BitTorernt" spellcheck please, kthnx
Dec 07 18:24:56 <Directrix> :p
Dec 07 18:25:01 <ludde> just one? does levenstein allow letter swaps?
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Dec 07 18:25:17 <Jooon> actually no, that's an extension :)
Dec 07 18:25:30 * ignorantcow has changed the topic to: Welcome to #utorrent : Latest Version: Torrent 1.6 stable build 474 : http://utorrent.com/download.php :: English only :: Read The FAQ! http://utorrent.com/faq.php :: Torrent help ONLY :: WebUI v0.31 public beta 2 is out. Join #utorrent-webui :: WE DON'T HANDLE CONTENT! :: http://tinyurl.com/yarwpp
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Dec 07 18:26:13 <matta> i'm just brams limo driver, they dont trust me to speel check, and now you know why
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Dec 07 18:26:38 <Directrix> icow: you can remove the webui bs, if you need space
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Dec 07 18:26:59 <alcaholjunkie> so, µtorrent will still be developed, but other projects will be developed too? ^_^
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Dec 07 18:28:29 <cinedot> is there a kind of calculator for utorrent like the one made for azureus?
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Dec 07 18:28:48 <alcaholjunkie> cinedot: what sort of calculator is that ? ^_^
Dec 07 18:28:54 <Bram> alcoholjunkie: yes, utorrent will still be developed, and the codebase will be used for projects other than the current client
Dec 07 18:29:55 <alcaholjunkie> Bram: ahh just as I thought ^_^ though I bet this announcement will get a strange reaction like the thingiebob time whatchamacallit (with the guys with tinfoil hats when lude developed that .dll file for some caompany a while back you probly know what I mean, lol)
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Dec 07 18:30:14 * ignorantcow remembers that fiasco
Dec 07 18:30:15 * alcaholjunkie is finding it hard to think, type and eat at the same time ^_^
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Dec 07 18:30:33 * alcaholjunkie has stir fry with noodles ^____^
Dec 07 18:30:42 <cinedot> alcaholjunki: sec
Dec 07 18:30:47 <Bram> tin foil hats don't work very well, you need something ferromagnetic to protect your brain from magnetic waves
Dec 07 18:30:53 * ignorantcow is now hungry D:
Dec 07 18:31:02 <cinedot> alcaholjunki: http://infinite-source.de/az/az-calc.html
Dec 07 18:31:14 <Bram> and people usually make them out of aluminum foil anyway, it's hard to find authentic tin foil these days
Dec 07 18:31:25 <cinedot> im runnin 20/10mbit ... and ive never been able to use all of my power.
Dec 07 18:31:41 <ignorantcow> cinedot: utorrent's built in speed guide?
Dec 07 18:31:48 <cinedot> could it be my configuration, using port 14221?
Dec 07 18:31:50 <alcaholjunkie> cinedot: erm, µtorrent has a speed guide, so if you know your upload bandwidth in (M)(K)BITS you can select it ^_^
Dec 07 18:32:21 <alcaholjunkie> cinedot: but that's the closest thing to that calc ^_^ (though that calc would probly work with µtorrent somewhat)
Dec 07 18:32:33 <alcaholjunkie> it's only a suggested settings calc ^_^
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Dec 07 18:33:51 <cinedot> k
Dec 07 18:33:56 * alcaholjunkie wonders how long it will be until the first paranoid idiot comes in shouting profanities amonsgt the words "sell out" or something along them lines :-/ lol
Dec 07 18:34:10 <alcaholjunkie> or just profanities ^_^
Dec 07 18:35:04 * alcaholjunkie goes back to his stir fry ^__^
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Dec 07 18:43:35 <Jan> does anyone know why the cylons want to kill all humans ?
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Dec 07 18:49:26 <Bram> jan: because they taste like chicken
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Dec 07 18:51:22 <Tich> mmmhhhhmmm, chicken :D
Dec 07 18:51:57 <alcaholjunkie> ffs >.< µtorrent keeps dieing :-/ need to get a new HDD very soon I think >.< lol
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Dec 07 18:52:19 * ignorantcow just got a new 250gb ^_^
Dec 07 18:52:49 <Tich> i need some kind of brilliant archival system to organize all the stuff i download :P
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Dec 07 18:53:02 <alcaholjunkie> I got 3 more presents to buy before I can spend money on a HDD :-/
Dec 07 18:53:05 <Tich> preferably using DVD+Rs as they are the cheapest method for mass storage atm
Dec 07 18:53:07 <alcaholjunkie> want at least 300GB ^_^ lol
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Dec 07 18:53:31 <ignorantcow> I can't fill 120gb, let alone 250... twas overkill for me
Dec 07 18:53:36 <ignorantcow> my old 120 died lol :(
Dec 07 18:53:44 <alcaholjunkie> Tich: Get one of them CD/DVD sotrage thingies (that's like a suitcase so you don't need jewl cases) ^_^ and labels, lol
Dec 07 18:54:07 <alcaholjunkie> ignorantcow: I have 160GB, and 2x 200GB, all pretty much full ^_^ lol
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Dec 07 18:54:30 <Tich> hmm yeah, I've already started catalogizing them with "whereisit", but the suitcase thingy seems like a good idea :P
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Dec 07 18:55:07 <ignorantcow> my ISP shapes torrent traffic & PE can't get pass it >.<
Dec 07 18:55:09 <alcaholjunkie> Tich: I got one for £4 XD fits 144 CDs/DVDs ^_^
Dec 07 18:55:16 <ignorantcow> so that's prolly why I can't fill any HDDs lol :p
Dec 07 18:55:31 <Tich> heh, crap isp tbh :P
Dec 07 18:56:09 <ignorantcow> its the only one in the country so it's either that or no broadband at all :p
Dec 07 18:56:45 <Tich> extend that to country then... unless you've got tropical beaches to make up for it ;)
Dec 07 18:56:56 <ignorantcow> we do ;)
Dec 07 18:56:57 * Beheerder (~chatzilla@P2PNET-C0403E0B.demon.nl) has joined #utorrent
Dec 07 18:57:07 <Beheerder> Hi all
Dec 07 18:57:12 * Beheerder is now known as Exyll
Dec 07 18:57:12 <alcaholjunkie> howdy
Dec 07 18:57:38 <Exyll> I have a dutch translation but there is an error in the aboutbox
Dec 07 18:57:54 <ignorantcow> anyway I'm out. lemme know if anything interesting happens!
Dec 07 18:57:56 <Exyll> Where can I submit this error?
Dec 07 18:58:04 <ignorantcow> oh btw, what happened to ajbot? D:
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Dec 07 18:58:32 <alcaholjunkie> ignorantcow: liek I said, HDD needs replacing ^_^ lol, alot of things keep crashing at the mo
Dec 07 18:58:36 <Tich> hmm nice, wanna switch? :P
Dec 07 18:58:42 <alcaholjunkie> need to work on AJBot anyway ^_^
Dec 07 18:58:51 <ignorantcow> ^_^
Dec 07 18:59:10 <ignorantcow> lol Tich- gladly.. I'm not much of a beach goer anyway :p
Dec 07 18:59:17 <ignorantcow> neways, out
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Dec 07 19:00:34 <Tich> for me its either civilisation with computers and internet or really nice weather and outdoor activities
Dec 07 19:00:52 <Tich> as long as i got at least one of them I'm fine :)
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Dec 07 19:14:52 <stratmancj> congrats on the merger ... looks like a smart move
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Dec 07 19:15:15 <cstcyr> Are the boys still here?
Dec 07 19:15:27 <ludde> yes
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Dec 07 19:15:52 <cstcyr> I'm just a user of the utorrent client but I have a few questions.
Dec 07 19:15:52 * spr33|sleep is now known as spr33
Dec 07 19:16:04 <cstcyr> Will we see uTorrent on linux?
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Dec 07 19:17:24 <cstcyr> Or more direct will it be open sourced?
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Dec 07 19:19:32 <ludde> cstcyr: it will not be open sourced
Dec 07 19:19:50 <ludde> cstcyr: and I don't know about a linux version :) possibly.
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Dec 07 19:20:55 <Zook> So...
Dec 07 19:21:01 <Zook> Such a huge event and no one is talking?
Dec 07 19:21:10 <VG> Is utorrent going to get bloated like the new azerous (by bloat i mean trying to get people to share videos and download stuff they really dont want but is forced on them when the application loads)
Dec 07 19:21:12 <matta> cstcyr: given that the current BitTorrent client is available for the linux platform I would expect to see a linux version released in the future
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Dec 07 19:23:17 <Zook> If uTorrent (IMO) Does get bloated, it certainly will lose its credibility... uTorrent is the client i always liked due to the fact that it was just portable, and so lightweight... If i saw it go over 600 KB (Standalone) that would be a disappointment =/
Dec 07 19:23:58 <VG> Zook, i completly agree, thats why i hate the new azerous client with the forced content,i even still use mplayer2 to watch videos on xp cause i hate windows media player forced content
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Dec 07 19:24:05 <chino> I think that's one of the major allures of utorrent. Changing that would be counterintuitive.
Dec 07 19:24:13 <grokblah> what sort of DRM will be used for your movie rentals/purchases?
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Dec 07 19:25:02 <matta> VG: as stated in the post from Bram and Ludde, the small footprint of the uTorrent client is an important feature
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Dec 07 19:25:16 <LycoLoco> So...what's the deal with the merger?
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Dec 07 19:25:44 <VG> matta, which is more important to a profitable company, a small good client that makes people happy or to have the company make money?
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Dec 07 19:26:01 <Zook> Oh boy.
Dec 07 19:26:04 <Zook> I smell digg users.
Dec 07 19:26:13 <rah> do you really?
Dec 07 19:26:15 * spr33 is now known as Alex_Albrecht
Dec 07 19:26:15 <Zook> Yes.
Dec 07 19:26:19 <Alex_Albrecht> "here's the deal"
Dec 07 19:26:23 * Alex_Albrecht is now known as spr33
Dec 07 19:26:24 * Zook sits down
Dec 07 19:26:26 <rah> Well you have a weird sense of smell then
Dec 07 19:26:31 <Zook> I know =/
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Dec 07 19:26:36 <Zook> See that ^
Dec 07 19:26:38 <Zook> No nose.
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Dec 07 19:26:44 <stratmancj> ha
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Dec 07 19:27:01 <VG> zook, is your statement referring to me?
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Dec 07 19:27:07 <Zook> Yes.
Dec 07 19:27:08 <Zook> erm
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Dec 07 19:27:12 <Zook> the above statement
Dec 07 19:27:16 <Zook> About the bloat *nod*
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Dec 07 19:27:43 <stratmancj> does this mean that the official bit torrent client is going to be discontinued?
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Dec 07 19:27:49 <Matt> well the space is hotting up
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Dec 07 19:27:54 <VG> well, i assumed it was already talked about but then no one was talking so i figured i'd ask
Dec 07 19:27:54 <Zook> Yup.
Dec 07 19:27:56 <PersonX> Zook, you're right, I'm a digger, do I smell that bad? geez :-P
Dec 07 19:28:03 <VG> im also a digger
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Dec 07 19:28:07 <stratmancj> ditto
Dec 07 19:28:10 <grokblah> can you talk about the new movie service?
Dec 07 19:28:11 <Miek> me too
Dec 07 19:28:12 <Zook> Dude, all i ask is you use Deoderant.
Dec 07 19:28:13 <Zook> =p
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Dec 07 19:28:30 <zobcat1> mitchum - skip a day
Dec 07 19:28:32 <Ron> VG: This is Ron, I run CS at BitTorrent. As to changing the client, there is not much point in doing that. BitTorrent wanted uTorrent because it is small, well written, and well liked. It makes no sense to take it on just to change it and lose all it's user base.
Dec 07 19:28:37 * VG uses mitchum
Dec 07 19:28:39 <Bram> vg, we're going ot keep it small, the lightweightness was one of the things we found very appealing about the utorrent codebase
Dec 07 19:28:41 <PersonX> ah, I knew I forgot something this morning...
Dec 07 19:28:52 <Zook> Ah great to hear!
Dec 07 19:29:04 <LycoLoco> Ron, Bram: Is there going to be any implementation of other code because of the MPAA deal struck earlier this year?
Dec 07 19:29:12 <VG> Bram/Ron, so how does this merger help is making either party more money in the long run?
Dec 07 19:29:12 <matta> grokblah: bittorrent.com will be providing content from major studios that require the use of DRM. To date the only DRM solution that they have approved is windows DRM
Dec 07 19:29:16 <Zook> The best thing i love about uTorrent is the ease of use (The UI and The weight of the program.)
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Dec 07 19:29:36 <Zook> Any program that is portable automatically gets a good score in my book, and thats where uTorrent delivers.
Dec 07 19:29:45 <alcaholjunkie> ahh ffs >.< for the past half hour IRC wasn't autoscrolling :-/ lol
Dec 07 19:29:52 <Zook> haha
Dec 07 19:29:55 <LycoLoco> lol alcaholjunkie
Dec 07 19:30:01 <Matt> will the mainline client code base remain open source and will it continue to be developed
Dec 07 19:30:02 <grokblah> will BT have their own player like Vongo and Movielink?
Dec 07 19:30:06 <alcaholjunkie> I just thought it was quiet ^_^
Dec 07 19:30:21 <Miek> alcaholjunkie: it's worse when you reply to something said half an hour ago, then look rather silly
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Dec 07 19:30:40 <Zook> Brb, Pancakes.
Dec 07 19:30:43 <Zook> Everyone is invited.
Dec 07 19:30:50 <snoops> Now that bt and utorrent teamed up, is there a chance of the utorrent codebase going opensource? (I'm sure it's been asked before already - is there a chat history?)
Dec 07 19:30:51 <Matt> grok just looka at azureus
Dec 07 19:30:52 <WhxFKQ70q> W00t. Ill be right over!
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Dec 07 19:31:02 <dAbReAkA> lol
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Dec 07 19:31:08 <alcaholjunkie> Miek: people don't look silly replying to things said half hour ago, sicne that usually happens because you're AFK or something ^_^
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Dec 07 19:31:28 <dAbReAkA> utorrent is still a a property of ludde?
Dec 07 19:31:30 <zobcat1> Ron, Bram: I'd still like to know the answer to this: "<LycoLoco> Ron, Bram: Is there going to be any implementation of other code because of the MPAA deal struck earlier this year?"
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Dec 07 19:31:38 <ludde> dAbReAkA: no
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Dec 07 19:31:57 <dAbReAkA> whose property is it then?
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Dec 07 19:32:02 <dAbReAkA> shared? bittorrents?
Dec 07 19:32:10 <alcaholjunkie> the garden of the property is MINE!!!
Dec 07 19:32:11 <Bram> the current open source codebase will continue to be open source, although we're porting the features in mainline which are missing from utorrent to the utorrent codebase
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Dec 07 19:32:18 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! Feeling has set a new channel peak of 200!!!
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Dec 07 19:32:20 <Matt> rember thaT BITTORENT INC AND uTORRENT teamed up not bittorent and utorrent
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Dec 07 19:32:24 <mitch> <DISCUSSING>
Dec 07 19:32:24 * Feeling jumps on Bram
Dec 07 19:32:27 <Feeling> rawr
Dec 07 19:32:27 * Loki rawrs back!!
Dec 07 19:32:31 <Feeling> :o
Dec 07 19:32:34 <LycoLoco> but...uTorrent isn't open source
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Dec 07 19:32:36 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! lmnop has set a new channel peak of 204!!!
Dec 07 19:32:37 <dAbReAkA> open source?
Dec 07 19:32:37 <_skywalker_> will be log of this channel posted on the web or where is it possible to get any further informations?
Dec 07 19:32:41 <Bram> feeling: do I know you?
Dec 07 19:32:42 * nascent intiated discussion mode
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Dec 07 19:32:51 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! teeG has set a new channel peak of 205!!!
Dec 07 19:33:01 <Feeling> heh, nope.
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Dec 07 19:33:08 <Bram> zobcat1: I'm not sure what that question means
Dec 07 19:33:14 <Feeling> you might if you idle here long enough
Dec 07 19:33:15 <Feeling> ;)
Dec 07 19:33:15 <dAbReAkA> Matt, they teamed? u mean they didnt acquire utorrent?
Dec 07 19:33:17 * MasterBob notices 297 users
Dec 07 19:33:27 <nascent> what a shame though, jsut after the webui was done
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Dec 07 19:33:32 * Loki|Work jumps on Feeling
Dec 07 19:33:35 <Feeling> :o
Dec 07 19:33:40 <MasterBob> is this more of an alliance and less like a takeover?
Dec 07 19:33:41 <Feeling> Loki|Work u sexi man
Dec 07 19:33:44 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! Pelo has set a new channel peak of 208!!!
Dec 07 19:33:46 <Feeling> rawr
Dec 07 19:33:47 * Loki rawrs back!!
Dec 07 19:33:47 <Just-> nascent is the webUI complete or still beta ?
Dec 07 19:33:55 <metalman> what do you guys have to say about speculation that the movie industry is picking all this up in an effort to put down bittorrent?
Dec 07 19:33:56 <zobcat1> Bram: Will any restrictions be implemented within uTorrent because of the MPAA deal?
Dec 07 19:33:57 <alcaholjunkie> webui is beta still
Dec 07 19:34:02 <Bram> dabreaka: it's structured as an acquisition
Dec 07 19:34:03 <Feeling> webui.. beta 0.3?
Dec 07 19:34:03 <LycoLoco> Bram: basically, will anything change in uTorrent because of the deal that BitTorrent INC made with the MPAA earlier this year, such as DRM, phoning home, or anything that would cripple the client
Dec 07 19:34:05 <Just-> thought so thanks alcaholjunkie
Dec 07 19:34:05 <nascent> beta but pretty stable
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Dec 07 19:34:16 <dAbReAkA> utorrent wont go open source, will it?
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Dec 07 19:34:22 <nascent> dumb question
Dec 07 19:34:23 <alcaholjunkie> dAbReAkA: no
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Dec 07 19:34:30 <dAbReAkA> thanks god..
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Dec 07 19:34:37 <nascent> i guess we'll all be stuck using azerues next
Dec 07 19:34:44 <ludde> nascent: why not use utorrent?
Dec 07 19:34:46 <Matt> DRm is seperate from the distribution channel
Dec 07 19:34:53 <dAbReAkA> stuck? there's nothing wrong with utorrent, YET :)
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Dec 07 19:34:57 <nascent> yet
Dec 07 19:34:59 <Rauz> nascent, yeah that or just never ever use BT ever again ;)
Dec 07 19:35:03 <Callero> Will the code be open source?
Dec 07 19:35:06 <dAbReAkA> we'll see what happens
Dec 07 19:35:06 <nascent> omg
Dec 07 19:35:08 <dAbReAkA> Callero, no
Dec 07 19:35:09 <Bram> zobcat1, lycoloco: the way utorrent and mainline behave in that regard is pretty much the same right now, so no, there will be no phoning home in the client
Dec 07 19:35:09 <_skywalker_> Bram, will you use something from utorrent in any other client for PC OSs?
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Dec 07 19:35:28 <dAbReAkA> so, the develpoment will continue from bittorent INC, not ludde?
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Dec 07 19:35:37 * Feeling cuddles utorrent-1.6.1-beta-build-483
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Dec 07 19:35:46 * nascent group hugs it
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Dec 07 19:35:57 <Bram> _skywalker_ what do you mean by 'other client'?
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Dec 07 19:36:09 <_skywalker_> Bram, or you acquired it mainly for building embedded applications?
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Dec 07 19:36:28 <Perc> just a quick question that probably has been asked before today - any plans for a mac version now? :)
Dec 07 19:36:31 <dAbReAkA> so, the develpoment will continue from bittorent INC, not from ludde?
Dec 07 19:36:40 <Perc> utorrent kicks ass but I don't want to run windows just to run it
Dec 07 19:36:43 <Just-> Perc MAC yuck !!
Dec 07 19:36:44 <Matt> How about p2p straming bram ?
Dec 07 19:36:47 <_skywalker_> Bram, I mean message in forum states, that you acquired it for building embedded applications
Dec 07 19:36:47 <matta> Matt: you are correct about DRM not being a part of the client. BitTorrent's plans for the use of DRM will only be around the actual playback of DRM protected content and will not involve any changes on the client side. The windows media player is what handles the DRM.
Dec 07 19:36:50 <Matt> streaming
Dec 07 19:37:00 <Perc> Just-: you're just jelous because my computer is better than yours *wink*
Dec 07 19:37:00 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! daniel has set a new channel peak of 214!!!
Dec 07 19:37:05 <Bram> dabreaka: bittorrent inc is going to be doing ongoing development
Dec 07 19:37:09 <_skywalker_> Bram, I am wondering, if you you the code from uTorrent in any other desktop client
Dec 07 19:37:17 <Bram> matt: play on demand is on the road map
Dec 07 19:37:24 <Just-> Perc take it outside lol clogging up the chathere
Dec 07 19:37:24 <snoops> what about the possibilities of utorrent being ported to linux and mac os x? At the moment you still need to use wine to use utorrent, which isn't the most ideal solution.
Dec 07 19:37:27 <_skywalker_> Bram, you you
Dec 07 19:37:33 <Perc> Just-: you started it :)
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Dec 07 19:37:34 <_skywalker_> Bram, use
Dec 07 19:37:36 <dAbReAkA> nice, but.. who is Bram and who is Matt?
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Dec 07 19:37:40 <dAbReAkA> the owners of bittorrent inc?
Dec 07 19:37:45 <ludde> dAbReAkA: bram is bram cohen
Dec 07 19:37:50 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! Johny-D has set a new channel peak of 216!!!
Dec 07 19:37:51 <Perc> nevermind that, I just wanted to take the opportunity to ask the developers if the mac version is in the works
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Dec 07 19:37:54 <dAbReAkA> the developer of the protocol
Dec 07 19:37:54 <ludde> dAbReAkA: he invented bittorrent.
Dec 07 19:37:56 <Matt> yeah know your competitors are working on it bram ;)
Dec 07 19:37:57 <Bram> _skywalker_ it's particularly appealing for embedded, but obviously it works on desktop as well
Dec 07 19:37:58 <Perc> because utorrent is as good as it gets today
Dec 07 19:37:58 <dAbReAkA> ?
Dec 07 19:37:58 <dAbReAkA> aha
Dec 07 19:38:04 <alcaholjunkie> dAbReAkA: you mean creator? ^_^
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Dec 07 19:38:10 <grokblah> has it been decided how long the license will last for rentals/purchases? AFAIK you have to put an expiration date into the WM DRM license.
Dec 07 19:38:16 <Johny-D> uTorrent is teh shit
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Dec 07 19:38:20 <dAbReAkA> yeah, whatever alcaholjunkie :P and Matt is?
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Dec 07 19:38:29 <ludde> Johny-D: what's teh shit
Dec 07 19:38:34 <Johny-D> uTorrent! :)
Dec 07 19:38:36 <Al> utorrent rocks, hope this is a good move
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Dec 07 19:38:51 <Johny-D> I mean it's fantastic ;)
Dec 07 19:38:51 <dAbReAkA> so we might expect some new betas coming from bittorrent inc soon?
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Dec 07 19:39:00 <Bram> grokblah: those kinds of details will be announced when stuff becomes available
Dec 07 19:39:06 <Johny-D> I've tried many other clients... ABC, Azerus, etc...
Dec 07 19:39:08 <David2> new betas? uTorrent in new packaging?
Dec 07 19:39:08 <grokblah> ok
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Dec 07 19:39:10 <grokblah> thanks
Dec 07 19:39:10 <Matt> Im a beta tester
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Dec 07 19:39:13 <dAbReAkA> .. what about bloat?
Dec 07 19:39:14 <_skywalker_> Bram, so will you prepare some new desktop client except uTorrent for desktop?
Dec 07 19:39:16 <Jooon> wow. it is still really the default image, someone fix! :) http://utorrent.istheshit.net/
Dec 07 19:39:20 <joeshojmdm> well, of course utorrent rocks. hence: the aquisition
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Dec 07 19:39:35 <joeshojmdm> what i'm wondering: will it continue to rock
Dec 07 19:39:39 <Bram> dabreaka: not sure when the next release will be, obviously we have new people learning the codebase now
Dec 07 19:39:41 <nebiros> download this torrent: http://torrentspy.com/torrent/822242/Osama_2003 ->one of the best i've ever seen
Dec 07 19:39:49 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! Ubik has set a new channel peak of 221!!!
Dec 07 19:39:54 <Bram> although that's going fairly quickly, because it's a good codebase
Dec 07 19:39:55 <Xenos> This discussion appears to be largely random, and questions are repeated quite a bit. Might be an idea to set +m, and let people /msg someone with questions. (Set name of that user in topic). Leads to a more ordered discussion, and the logs of this chat might actually be useful.
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Dec 07 19:40:04 <alcaholjunkie> nebiros: This isn't the place for content ^_^ not stop spamming
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Dec 07 19:40:12 <Johny-D> I'm blown away by how many people think that Azerus is fantastic. I'm a software developer.... and when I first booted it up... I was like.... 3D swarm? WTF? Why the heck do I need that?!
Dec 07 19:40:12 <alcaholjunkie> now stop*
Dec 07 19:40:12 <_skywalker_> Bram, will utorrent source code be released as open source?
Dec 07 19:40:13 <Bram> dabreaka: we're against bloat
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Dec 07 19:40:15 <David2> this channel is going to get out of control w/ digg :)
Dec 07 19:40:18 * Pelo just joined to make sure this wasn'T a joke, now he's convinced. have fun with it everyone
Dec 07 19:40:18 <Matt> skywaler bram and Ashwin have stated in the past they want to embed Bittorent into devices
Dec 07 19:40:19 <dAbReAkA> so, the utorrent forums and utorrent.com will be still active and be the home of utorrent?
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Dec 07 19:40:24 <dAbReAkA> any name changes planned?
Dec 07 19:40:25 <Just-> Bram and ludde: you know the guys at kazaa and skype founders want to make a streaming program using torrent protocol, u guys not have anything in mind for some use of the protocol in streaming applications like TV as an example ?
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Dec 07 19:40:33 * uTorrent gives channel operator status to Sanchez
Dec 07 19:40:35 <Zook> Alright, back.
Dec 07 19:40:38 <Meez> yeah, digg will ruin this :)
Dec 07 19:40:40 <Sanchez> SURPRISE ANNOUNCEMENT WEE
Dec 07 19:40:40 <Bram> _skywalker_: no, utorrent source will continue to be proprietary
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Dec 07 19:40:43 <dAbReAkA> streaming hurts the swarm!!!
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Dec 07 19:40:52 * uTorrent gives voice to Anrkist
Dec 07 19:41:03 <Bram> dabreaka: utorrent.com is staying up as is for the time being
Dec 07 19:41:09 <snoops> Johny-D I use that 3d swam all the time, and I'm a software developer too ;) each to his or her own. ;)
Dec 07 19:41:10 <Callero> What are the future business plans, will you charge for the client?
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Dec 07 19:41:16 <David2> how much is ludde gettin paid?
Dec 07 19:41:19 <Zook> Oh god.
Dec 07 19:41:23 <Loki|Work> lol
Dec 07 19:41:23 <Sanchez> confidential.
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Dec 07 19:41:28 <Matt> Streaming wont hurt the swarm if the content is being downloade d at the same time
Dec 07 19:41:29 <Perc> I don't think it would be possible to charge for a torrent client
Dec 07 19:41:29 <Johny-D> snoops - what on earth do you use it for?
Dec 07 19:41:30 <Loki|Work> he got a hug
Dec 07 19:41:31 <Zook> If the client was a paid2use program, that would ruin its name.
Dec 07 19:41:31 <Feeling> must be a lot ;)
Dec 07 19:41:32 <Zook> Completly.
Dec 07 19:41:33 <RooZ> when will development start on all this?
Dec 07 19:41:36 <Loki|Work> a big group hug
Dec 07 19:41:37 <alcaholjunkie> David2: like it's any of your busines, lol
Dec 07 19:41:41 * true (~true@P2PNET-57C44EA7.lv.lv.cox.net) has joined #utorrent
Dec 07 19:41:42 <Jabra> Nooo....why did you do it???
Dec 07 19:41:42 <alcaholjunkie> business*
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Dec 07 19:41:58 <teetow> Jabra: what do you mean?
Dec 07 19:42:01 <Bram> rooz: development is ongoing
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Dec 07 19:42:06 <dAbReAkA> Matt, but u have to download it consecutively..
Dec 07 19:42:13 <Sanchez> ok, im slightly late on the game here
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Dec 07 19:42:21 <Sanchez> "we will continue to develop µTorrent "
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Dec 07 19:42:25 <alcaholjunkie> Zook: no one said it's going to be a pay2use application did they? no they didn't -_-
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Dec 07 19:42:35 <Sanchez> who is "we"? Bittorrent or ludde
Dec 07 19:42:40 <dAbReAkA> bittorrent
Dec 07 19:42:43 <Bram> the client will continue to be free
Dec 07 19:42:47 <Just-> Bram and ludde: you know the guys at kazaa and skype founders want to make a streaming program using torrent protocol, u guys not have anything in mind for some use of the protocol in streaming applications like TV as an example ?
Dec 07 19:42:50 <snoops> Johny-D, a screen saver.. I love different ways of viewing data and information.. It gives me a quick, and nice overview of how the torrent is going, in terms of connections
Dec 07 19:42:52 <true> it never was free...
Dec 07 19:42:54 <dAbReAkA> bram, any name changes?
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Dec 07 19:43:02 <Zook> I know Alcahol i was responding to another users question.
Dec 07 19:43:04 <fuflo> oooh.. now i see why all these ppl are joining..
Dec 07 19:43:11 <_skywalker_> Bram, which parts of utorrent's implementation of bittorrent protocol are most intriguing according you?
Dec 07 19:43:11 <dAbReAkA> and what happens to the original client?
Dec 07 19:43:11 <Loki|Work> lol
Dec 07 19:43:17 <Bram> dabreaka, names staying the same for now
Dec 07 19:43:25 <alcaholjunkie> Zook: ahh fair enough ^_^ lol, I'm having trouble keeping up with the channel, haven't seen it this crowded in a long time :-/
Dec 07 19:43:32 <MasterBob> bye chat
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Dec 07 19:43:37 <Xenos> alcaholjunkie: That's the digg effect for you
Dec 07 19:43:40 <Jooon> Just-: I think you are confusing the bittorrent protocol with general p2p
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Dec 07 19:43:43 <Jabra> Ludvig, will you still continue to word on the UTorrent project or will it be handed over completely to BitTorrent?
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Dec 07 19:43:46 <Jabra> work*
Dec 07 19:43:51 <alcaholjunkie> ok, who's the fuzzer who digged? >.< lol
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Dec 07 19:43:53 <Sanchez> this has probably been answered as well, is a osx and linux build gonna be made?
Dec 07 19:43:54 <dAbReAkA> is ludde part of the bittorrent inc development team or he's done with it?
Dec 07 19:43:56 <_skywalker_> Bram, are there any featues utorrent dont have that BitTorrent client has?
Dec 07 19:43:57 <unbrokencascade> i need help with utorrent
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Dec 07 19:44:07 <rll> RE: µTorrent and BitTorrent Join Forces does this mean that there will be a linux/unix version of µTorrent?
Dec 07 19:44:08 <napalm87> Bram: Are there any plans on making uTorrent cross platform for OSX and Linux?
Dec 07 19:44:09 <Zook> Anyway, is there any future plans of making uTorrent an open source client, Of course it's a great program right now... But if it was open ot the world it would be even more amazing. Im sure there would be a good license that you could use especially with GPLv3 coming out.
Dec 07 19:44:10 <Jooon> this is going to make a great FAQ :)
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Dec 07 19:44:11 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: state your issue ^_^
Dec 07 19:44:14 <Rauz> First time the digg effect hits an irc channel? :)
Dec 07 19:44:18 <Bram> _skywalker_ we like the UI and core
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Dec 07 19:44:32 <Sanchez> Rauz: hardly, we only have 50 more people here than usual...
Dec 07 19:44:33 <dAbReAkA> not a real hit really..
Dec 07 19:44:35 <Bram> _skywalker_ yeah, http seeding and the fast extensions
Dec 07 19:44:38 <Rauz> Sanchez, wait for it.
Dec 07 19:44:40 <Al> at least here, no chance of the digg effect
Dec 07 19:44:43 <unbrokencascade> Its taking a lot of time for a particular download to start.After it does , the speed is too low
Dec 07 19:44:49 <dAbReAkA> extensions? plugins?
Dec 07 19:44:53 <dAbReAkA> or something else?
Dec 07 19:44:56 <Zook> -Waits for someone to answer his question-
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Dec 07 19:45:06 <Sanchez> its been on the frontpage for about half an hour, i doubt digg is gonna take anything down
Dec 07 19:45:07 <AresXP> who owns utorrent now?
Dec 07 19:45:11 <Johny-D> snoops - k, I was just wondering if you had a use other than for aesthetical reasons. I mean... just about all torrent sites post information on the health of a torrent
Dec 07 19:45:14 <dAbReAkA> AresXP, bittorrent inc
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Dec 07 19:45:21 <newcomer> Zook, bram already mentioned utorrent will keep being closed source
Dec 07 19:45:24 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: what colour is the NAT indicator at the bottom of µtorrent? and what colour is the icon nect to the torrent in the list? ^_^
Dec 07 19:45:28 <Matt> Bittorent Inc owns uTorrent
Dec 07 19:45:28 <alcaholjunkie> and don't PM me, lol
Dec 07 19:45:29 <Sanchez> and damn, it sure didn't take long for the open source whores to jump on this ship
Dec 07 19:45:31 <Rauz> Sanchez, not saying it'll take down the server. Just fun to watch...
Dec 07 19:45:32 <Zook> I know, but will there be any future plans?
Dec 07 19:45:43 <Zook> Maybe a skeleton version, where users are allowed to build on that.
Dec 07 19:45:44 <Johny-D> snoops - I guess I'm just too busy working to care to see...
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Dec 07 19:45:53 <_skywalker_> Bram, can you be more specific about core of utorrent? which features are most interesting according you? memory consumption? network effectivity?
Dec 07 19:46:02 <Bram> there's a lot of scroll here, I can't really keep up all that well
Dec 07 19:46:04 <Zook> The full source doesn't need to be given, its just something they could think of to help uTorrent suceed even more.
Dec 07 19:46:06 <Jooon> matta: you should probably edit the forum posts (that everyone are linking to) and add a simple FAQ (simple copy paste questions and answers from the channel)
Dec 07 19:46:09 <unbrokencascade> its yellow
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Dec 07 19:46:16 <unbrokencascade> with a triangle
Dec 07 19:46:19 <true> Sanchez: Sorry, but I am untrusting, especially with the antics the team has shown in the past. Freedom makes sense.
Dec 07 19:46:19 <D_C> irc overflow
Dec 07 19:46:22 <Bram> _skywalker_ low memory footprint, code size, and cpu usage
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Dec 07 19:46:27 <dAbReAkA> Zook, open source doesnt necessarily improve programs..
Dec 07 19:46:34 <FreshBeats> Hey, quick question... uTorrent for Mac OSX coming?
Dec 07 19:46:35 <Matt> need to moderate the channel
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Dec 07 19:46:37 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: that just means you haven't had any incoming connections yet ^_^ what colour is the icon next the torrent in the list? ^_^
Dec 07 19:46:41 <true> FreshBeats: No.
Dec 07 19:46:42 <teetow> yeah, please set +m
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Dec 07 19:46:58 <Sanchez> we should probably just change the topic to "NO LINUX OR OSX BUILDS" then
Dec 07 19:47:00 <true> Yeah, and turn off Smoovious.
Dec 07 19:47:01 <AresXP> was there money involved?
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Dec 07 19:47:08 <Sanchez> AresXP: yes,
Dec 07 19:47:12 <Zook> Sanchez uTorrent runs perfectly in wine.
Dec 07 19:47:14 <Matt> cant wait till the p2p "press: picks this story up LOL
Dec 07 19:47:15 <Zook> =/
Dec 07 19:47:16 <RezniK> you had to know that topic would bring the hordes
Dec 07 19:47:19 <unbrokencascade> its blue with a downloading arrow
Dec 07 19:47:22 <AresXP> has it been disclosed, Sanchez?
Dec 07 19:47:27 <Sanchez> no
Dec 07 19:47:27 <RezniK> all of us are dying to know
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Dec 07 19:47:33 <RezniK> say it ain't so Jimmy
Dec 07 19:47:33 <madonion> so utorrent is still going to be a sepearate app right?
Dec 07 19:47:35 <Matt> p2pnet will have a fit
Dec 07 19:47:40 <teetow> why?
Dec 07 19:47:43 <Ehm> Will uTorrent become BitTorrent's flagship client now then?
Dec 07 19:47:43 <madonion> it isnt going to be made part of bittorrent
Dec 07 19:47:45 <_skywalker_> Bram, thanks. somethign little offtopic, didnt you change opinion on network coding?
Dec 07 19:47:48 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: what are the seeds and peers? including what's in the brackets? ^_^
Dec 07 19:47:53 * Zook expects a Netsplit very soon
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Dec 07 19:47:59 <Bram> we plan to produce an up to date osx client, but that's significant porting work
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Dec 07 19:47:59 <RooZ> =]
Dec 07 19:48:08 <Sanchez> ah, ok then
Dec 07 19:48:14 <unbrokencascade> 0(0) 10(35)
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Dec 07 19:48:16 <rll> Bram: what about a unix client?
Dec 07 19:48:21 <Zook> *nix.
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Dec 07 19:48:30 <Dested> Im sure you know already, but you've been dugg
Dec 07 19:48:32 <rll> Zook: *n*x ;]
Dec 07 19:48:34 <Bram> _skywalker_ it turns out that there's a good usage of network coding which produces clear benefits, but the academic literature gets it all wrong
Dec 07 19:48:36 <joeshojmdm> how about the commodore 64 port?
Dec 07 19:48:36 <Zook> :o
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Dec 07 19:48:40 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: what's the availability? ^_^
Dec 07 19:48:45 <dAbReAkA> 80 users above normal..
Dec 07 19:48:47 <Johny-D> ludde & bram - any talk of improving the code base of uTorrent so as to further reduce the computational footprint.... y'see... I've got this TRS-80 and I'm having a bit of trouble.....
Dec 07 19:48:52 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: availability can be found in the general tab ^_^
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Dec 07 19:48:53 <unbrokencascade> 0.000
Dec 07 19:48:54 <dAbReAkA> alcaholjunkie, what are those questions?
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Dec 07 19:49:13 <Zook> "Can uTorrent cure cancer?"
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Dec 07 19:49:18 <Matt> Im sure there will be a nix port if they want Bittorent in routers ect
Dec 07 19:49:19 <GTA3> lol
Dec 07 19:49:19 <Fegul> How do you feel about Azureus launching their video sharing platform and will uTorrent be used to launch a similar platform?
Dec 07 19:49:19 <RooZ> yes!
Dec 07 19:49:19 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: no one that you're connected to on that torrent has any full pieces... that's why it isn't downloading ^_^
Dec 07 19:49:21 <true> Zook: no
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Dec 07 19:49:25 <Zook> Shit.
Dec 07 19:49:28 <alcaholjunkie> dAbReAkA: I'm helping someone ^_^ lol
Dec 07 19:49:29 <Johny-D> Zook - depends on how many seeds there are
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Dec 07 19:49:35 <Chigaimasu> um...hellol
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Dec 07 19:49:38 <Zook> Well im going to have to run back down to the hospital then.
Dec 07 19:49:39 <Sanchez> Bram: You've expressed your distaste in encryption, will you be removing it?
Dec 07 19:49:40 <Chigaimasu> hello*
Dec 07 19:49:41 <Ehm> Bram: Will uTorrent become BitTorrent's flagship client now?
Dec 07 19:49:42 <RooZ> haha
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Dec 07 19:49:57 <Zook> Phone call bbs
Dec 07 19:49:59 <Chigaimasu> can someone help me out...i have a question about utorrent
Dec 07 19:50:01 <flibberdy> given that the official BT client is multiplatform, can we expect a linux port of utorrent?
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Dec 07 19:50:09 <slaman> wow crazy.
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Dec 07 19:50:10 <Johny-D> good question Sanchez
Dec 07 19:50:11 <true> Chigaimasu: Ask, otherwise nobody cares
Dec 07 19:50:11 <unbrokencascade> so how do i know what file to download that will dowload fast ?
Dec 07 19:50:12 <D_C> joined at a bad time Chigaimasu :(
Dec 07 19:50:14 * emilia (~slimz@FA8101B7.3F90F44A.A25F7AA9.IP) has joined #utorrent
Dec 07 19:50:18 <slaman> I like the possible expansion into different mediums...
Dec 07 19:50:21 <slaman> great move
Dec 07 19:50:23 <Matt> you dont need encryption if the ISPs arwe cacheing p2p traffic
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Dec 07 19:50:28 <slaman> is there a business case for such a move?
Dec 07 19:50:32 <Johny-D> Bram - will there be any features of uTorrent that will be removed?
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Dec 07 19:50:38 <Chigaimasu> i just got it because a friend of mine said it was really good, and it says something about needing a port or something and i don't know what to do
Dec 07 19:50:39 <dAbReAkA> slaman, yeah, money..
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Dec 07 19:50:50 <Bram> sanchez: we're leaving the utorrent client mostly alone for now, on the grounds that people like it
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Dec 07 19:50:56 <Dested> =)
Dec 07 19:50:59 <Chigaimasu> wow, there's a lot of people in here
Dec 07 19:51:00 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! emilia has set a new channel peak of 243!!!
Dec 07 19:51:00 <Feeling> (@Sanchez) Bram: You've expressed your distaste in encryption, will you be removing it?
Dec 07 19:51:01 <nascent> for now sure, but in the future?
Dec 07 19:51:03 <daddyfizz> removing encyprtion...???
Dec 07 19:51:04 <DreadWingKnight> Chigaimasu: website - guides - connection setup guide
Dec 07 19:51:04 <Johny-D> Bram - define "mostly" ?
Dec 07 19:51:05 <Feeling> good question
Dec 07 19:51:06 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: well try for some with at least 1 seed on it ^_^
Dec 07 19:51:08 <Loki|Work> Bram: define mostly alone
Dec 07 19:51:12 <daddyfizz> =MPAA friendly...
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Dec 07 19:51:20 <GTA3> wow this chan is mad
Dec 07 19:51:21 <unbrokencascade> Thankyou alcaholjunkie
Dec 07 19:51:25 <unbrokencascade> i appreciate your time
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Dec 07 19:51:28 <Matt> Im sure Bittorent will be creating a commercial fork of uTorrent it makes bussiness sence
Dec 07 19:51:33 <dAbReAkA> removing encryption will be a great mistake
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Dec 07 19:51:42 <zyga_> is uTorrent going to become open source?
Dec 07 19:51:42 * DreadWingKnight is tempted to just +m now
Dec 07 19:51:43 <Bram> 'mostly' as in, not much of anything substantive will change
Dec 07 19:51:43 <j1978> is it possible to moderate this chan
Dec 07 19:51:45 <unbrokencascade> could you tell me some torrent sites to download movies and softwares from ?
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Dec 07 19:51:47 <j1978> its crazy
Dec 07 19:51:49 <Loki|Work> lol DreadWingKnight
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Dec 07 19:51:52 <David2> zyga - no.
Dec 07 19:51:53 <Chigaimasu> thanks, DreadWingKnight
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Dec 07 19:51:55 <flibberdy> Bram: will there be a linux port of utorrent?
Dec 07 19:51:58 <Sanchez> Ok, this was asked before but i feel it needs a clear answer. Bram: Will, in time, utorrent replace your original python client?
Dec 07 19:51:58 <Zook> ...
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Dec 07 19:52:15 <Directrix> !op Bram
Dec 07 19:52:15 * uTorrent gives channel operator status to Bram
Dec 07 19:52:15 <Zook> there probably will be a linux port, since there will be a OS/x version...
Dec 07 19:52:16 <_skywalker_> Bram, when we can expect start of distribution of copyrighted content from bittorrent? what you say about azureus approach?
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Dec 07 19:52:19 <dAbReAkA> did anyone answered the removing-encryption question?
Dec 07 19:52:22 <slaman> Bram: has there been any active research into implementing the technology on cell phones? If so, any active partnerships with cell phone providers?
Dec 07 19:52:24 <Zook> But it shouldnt really be a big problem to linux users.
Dec 07 19:52:27 <flibberdy> i didn't know that Zook, thanks
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Dec 07 19:52:34 <Ehm> Someone needs to write a FAQ :P
Dec 07 19:52:37 <Zaggynl> what? problem?
Dec 07 19:52:38 <jblade> fuck this shit
Dec 07 19:52:41 <RooZ> yes, i was just thinking that
Dec 07 19:52:42 <Zook> as i have said before "uTorrent runs perfectly in wine"
Dec 07 19:52:47 <Bram> sanchez: we aren't announcing integration plan details right now
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Dec 07 19:52:58 <Matt> Bittorent Inc plans to distribute commercial content in Q1 2007
Dec 07 19:52:58 <D_C> it doesnt run perfectly
Dec 07 19:53:00 * Johny-D slaps jblade
Dec 07 19:53:02 <LOC> Yay.
Dec 07 19:53:07 <Zook> From what i experienced it ran fine.
Dec 07 19:53:11 <unbrokencascade> Are you here alcaholjunkie ?
Dec 07 19:53:13 <true> Zook: But it isn't free. =)
Dec 07 19:53:15 <Zaggynl> I would SO love a native (binary) linux version :D
Dec 07 19:53:16 <Zook> Tested on Gentoo, Ubuntu, and Slackware.
Dec 07 19:53:18 <alcaholjunkie> unbrokencascade: yeah, somewhere XD lol
Dec 07 19:53:19 <zyga_> does the utorrent codebase compile on linux today (in your labs?)
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Dec 07 19:53:21 <Zook> Wine ... is free...
Dec 07 19:53:21 <Ron> Ehm: a FAQ will be up shortly
Dec 07 19:53:24 <unbrokencascade> lol
Dec 07 19:53:26 <ludde> zyga_: no
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Dec 07 19:53:30 <alcaholjunkie> Zook: where? XD lol
Dec 07 19:53:36 <Bram> oops
Dec 07 19:53:39 <Loki|Work> ha
Dec 07 19:53:39 * alcaholjunkie looks for free wine ^_^
Dec 07 19:53:42 <Loki|Work> keep em quiet
Dec 07 19:53:45 <Zaggynl> Zook, but makes utorrent flicker and gui stuff not work.
Dec 07 19:53:45 * #utorrent :You need voice (+v) (#utorrent)
Dec 07 19:53:48 * Bram sets mode -m #utorrent
Dec 07 19:53:51 <rll> the correct question: Does Wine run in linux perfectly?
Dec 07 19:53:52 <Zook> =/
Dec 07 19:53:54 <_skywalker_> Matt, Bram, will be uttorrent code used for client for distributing commercial content?
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Dec 07 19:53:55 <true> Zook: That isn't the issue I have, however.
Dec 07 19:53:55 <Zaggynl> Zook, but makes utorrent flicker and gui stuff not work.
Dec 07 19:54:01 * Bram gives channel operator status to matta
Dec 07 19:54:02 <Johny-D> man... Bram got ops real fast...
Dec 07 19:54:04 <Sanchez> for a moment, beautiful silence.
Dec 07 19:54:07 <AresXP> lol
Dec 07 19:54:09 <AresXP> put it back :P
Dec 07 19:54:10 <true> rll: Yeah, it runs perfectly. Whether what is being executed works as expected is a different story
Dec 07 19:54:12 <Johny-D> +v plz ;)
Dec 07 19:54:12 <Zook> I really can say i have never experienced any of those problems.
Dec 07 19:54:18 <Zook> It must just be me =X
Dec 07 19:54:21 * Zaggynl fluffles Bram, thank you for making Bittorrrent :D
Dec 07 19:54:22 <zyga_> does the utorrent engine (apart from any GUI) compile on linux today, and if so does it run on both 2.6 and 2.4?
Dec 07 19:54:22 <flibberdy> Wine is terrible in linux for network apps in my experience
Dec 07 19:54:25 <dAbReAkA> Bram, will encryption be removed?
Dec 07 19:54:30 <alcaholjunkie> Sanchez: imho that silence was too brief :-/ lol
Dec 07 19:54:33 <Johny-D> Zag - I've never experienced this problem
Dec 07 19:54:36 <Sanchez> zyga_: no
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Dec 07 19:54:44 <tab> utorrent runs pretty well in wine for me
Dec 07 19:54:46 <Zook> In that case, Im offering my hard drive for 400 USD, it runs uTorrent perfectly with out any glitches.
Dec 07 19:54:49 <daddyfizz> zyga: considering they just got it you should give them some damn slack and some time to run some tests
Dec 07 19:54:51 <daddyfizz> shit
Dec 07 19:54:51 <rll> true: i should have added <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags ;]
Dec 07 19:54:54 <true> Zook: good luck
Dec 07 19:54:57 <true> rll: perhaps =)
Dec 07 19:54:57 <AresXP> zyga_, just put it that way. utorrent doesnt run on linux natively ;)
Dec 07 19:54:57 <Sanchez> zyga_: not even clost, i suspect it will take a while
Dec 07 19:54:57 <Zook> HDD comes with Vista, XP, and SabayonLinux Installed :P
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Dec 07 19:55:07 <Zaggynl> it works well in wine?! it's the best in linux atm :(
Dec 07 19:55:12 <zyga_> (I got the picture, thanks)
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Dec 07 19:55:21 <Zook> 250 w00t
Dec 07 19:55:25 <zyga_> but I had to ask the gui vs non-gui question to be sure
Dec 07 19:55:25 <Zook> I should come in here more often.
Dec 07 19:55:25 <Bram> dabreaka: no it won't, we actually have encryption in mainline already (for compatibility, mostly)
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Dec 07 19:55:30 <Sanchez> Bram: Are you talking with asus and other router makers for putting utorrent in there?
Dec 07 19:55:30 <true> Zaggynl: I'm fine with other clients in Gentoo, myself.
Dec 07 19:55:32 <Zook> Thank god i can read fast.
Dec 07 19:55:35 <Zook> XD
Dec 07 19:55:41 <dAbReAkA> Bram, thx..
Dec 07 19:55:42 <Bram> sanchez: we're talking to lots of people
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Dec 07 19:55:50 <_skywalker_> Bram, whats current situation in implementation of CDP? does utorrent support it? do you see it as perspective feature for future?
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Dec 07 19:55:55 <Sanchez> i wanted some names. :p
Dec 07 19:55:57 <Zook> You should actually put +m back on.
Dec 07 19:55:59 <Zaggynl> most of them are buggy/don't have as much features/use Java
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Dec 07 19:56:02 <AresXP> Will WebUI remain in development?
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Dec 07 19:56:06 <LOC> Sabayon freaking rocks. To bad my X-Fi won't work under Linux, gg Creative.
Dec 07 19:56:06 <Zook> And slowly +v users.
Dec 07 19:56:08 <GTA3> who called the press conference :P
Dec 07 19:56:11 <zyga_> does bittorent.inc look for linux developers?
Dec 07 19:56:11 <Zook> That way everyone knows the low down.
Dec 07 19:56:12 <GTA3> its mayhem in here
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Dec 07 19:56:17 <Zook> Digg did GTA3 :P
Dec 07 19:56:20 <alcaholjunkie> bob, sally, jim, peter, micky ^_^ there's 'some'
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Dec 07 19:56:24 <mikesown> Will utorrent ever be open-sourced?
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Dec 07 19:56:29 <ludde> mikesown: no
Dec 07 19:56:29 <Zook> Nope mike
Dec 07 19:56:32 <Zook> I already asked =/
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Dec 07 19:56:37 <dAbReAkA> so, Bramm, is ludde in the bittorent inc development team or he's just a seller and he's outta the game?
Dec 07 19:56:41 <Loki|Work> thats not a bad thing
Dec 07 19:56:47 <mikesown> will utorrent be ported to OSX?
Dec 07 19:56:48 <true> That's the main case why nobody should use it. =)
Dec 07 19:56:51 <Zook> Yes mike
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Dec 07 19:56:55 <Zook> In the future.
Dec 07 19:56:57 <mikesown> what's the time frame?
Dec 07 19:56:57 <Bram> mikesown: not in the forseeable future, but we'll continue to maintain an open source reference implementation
Dec 07 19:57:04 <David2> starting http://btsharp.com/uTorrentFAQ/ - I guess I'll post there to keep these questions from being repeated
Dec 07 19:57:10 <Sanchez> im going to start writing a faq on questions related totodays chat
Dec 07 19:57:15 <Zook> They havent gave one yet but have said its a "Post project"
Dec 07 19:57:15 <Sanchez> wait a second
Dec 07 19:57:21 <Sanchez> David2 you copycat
Dec 07 19:57:21 <ernest0> Bram: you said before that you're not a big fan of protocol header encryption... do you still stand behind this?
Dec 07 19:57:22 <David2> alrighty, Sanchez - you got it.
Dec 07 19:57:28 <mikesown> Bram: so you do have a reference implementation ready for OSX?
Dec 07 19:57:31 <AresXP> Sanchez, you are the copycat :P
Dec 07 19:57:38 <Feeling> (ernest0) Bram: you said before that you're not a big fan of protocol header encryption... do you still stand behind this?
Dec 07 19:57:38 <Feeling> booo
Dec 07 19:57:39 <alcaholjunkie> ernest0: it's currently full encryption, not the header
Dec 07 19:57:39 <Feeling> :(
Dec 07 19:57:43 <Jonas^> a lot of people are wondering the same thing as mikesown ^^
Dec 07 19:57:48 <j1978> yup
Dec 07 19:57:49 <Zook> Hehe.
Dec 07 19:57:54 <dAbReAkA> Feeling, he already answered.. it wont be removed!
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Dec 07 19:57:57 <Johny-D> ludde - how many lines of code comprise uTorrent?
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Dec 07 19:58:02 <Bram> ernest0: it isn't much harder for an isp to recognize encrypted headers than unencrypted headers
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Dec 07 19:58:07 <Zook> 4 Billion Johny.
Dec 07 19:58:08 <Feeling> saying and doing, are different things
Dec 07 19:58:09 <Feeling> ;)
Dec 07 19:58:09 <Zook> In pure ASM.
Dec 07 19:58:13 <Sanchez> i started typing first. :(
Dec 07 19:58:16 <Dested> =O
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Dec 07 19:58:17 <Bram> mikesown: you can get an osx client from bittorrent.com :P
Dec 07 19:58:18 <Zaggynl> 1, and 1 for tetris
Dec 07 19:58:18 <Zook> No no, screw that.
Dec 07 19:58:20 <alcaholjunkie> Johny-D: same as the meaning of life... 42 ^_^ lol j/k
Dec 07 19:58:25 <_skywalker_> Bram, what is current share of uttorent in terms of traffic and users?
Dec 07 19:58:29 <Zook> Utorrent was written in BrainF*ck
Dec 07 19:58:31 <Zook> XD
Dec 07 19:58:31 <mikesown> heh, Bittorrent(the client) doesn't compare to utorrent
Dec 07 19:58:37 <Zook> That would be so awesome.
Dec 07 19:58:39 <mikesown> (in any way shape or form)
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Dec 07 19:58:45 <Zook> I would literally praise the developers everyday.
Dec 07 19:58:45 <true> alcaholjunkie: that's the answer to life, the universe, and everything; it isn't the meaning
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Dec 07 19:58:50 <Optimo> hooray
Dec 07 19:58:51 <Zook> 42?
Dec 07 19:58:54 <alcaholjunkie> true: yeah that's what I meant ^_^
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Dec 07 19:59:03 <alcaholjunkie> Zook: HHGTTG references ^_^
Dec 07 19:59:03 <Johny-D> ok, anybody wanna wait for the actual answer? :P
Dec 07 19:59:05 <true> Zook: pants!
Dec 07 19:59:07 <dAbReAkA> ludde cant develop anything new for utorrrent?
Dec 07 19:59:07 * DreadWingKnight is getting annoyed at the high level of noize
Dec 07 19:59:08 <Drull> im just hoping utorrent doesnt get crippled or ruined in anyway. i prefer to use something as i see fit, not forced to use it based on what someone else thinks i should be doing with it ^^
Dec 07 19:59:10 <[debris]> so does this mean content is going to be monitored?
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Dec 07 19:59:17 <Optimo> anyone having dns issues with torrentbytes.net ?
Dec 07 19:59:18 <Zook> The thing i find funny is ... 13.37 * Pi = 42
Dec 07 19:59:19 <Zook> XD
Dec 07 19:59:24 * alcaholjunkie gives DreadWingKnight some ear-plugs ^_^ lol
Dec 07 19:59:25 <Zaggynl> lol
Dec 07 19:59:28 <mikesown> if/when utorrent is released for OSX, will it have the same efficencies that the windows version has(rewriting the API functions completly)?
Dec 07 19:59:30 <ludde> dAbReAkA: bittorrent inc will do the majority of the development work.
Dec 07 19:59:32 <Bram> [debris] absolutely not
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Dec 07 19:59:39 <Zaggynl> good
Dec 07 19:59:40 <fuflo> will there be BitTorrent 2.0 (protocol) ?
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Dec 07 19:59:49 <dAbReAkA> ludde, but u can still do something? or edit their code?
Dec 07 19:59:49 <Johny-D> Drull - it really doens't make a difference... if uTorrent goes the way of ... say Napster.... they another app will rise up for the masses. Either way we generally win
Dec 07 19:59:55 <[debris]> DRM isn't next for utorrent is it?
Dec 07 19:59:57 <LOC> BitTorrent 2.0 = SkyNet
Dec 07 20:00:02 <ernest0> Bram: will the Cache Discovery Protocol (CDP) be implemented un uTorrent?
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Dec 07 20:00:04 <Loki|Work> Optimo: a lot of people are, flush your dns and try again
Dec 07 20:00:05 <Zook> oh god drm >.<
Dec 07 20:00:12 <Bram> fuflo: there are some extensions which came out recently, there may be more in the future
Dec 07 20:00:22 <alcaholjunkie> SkyNet = lack of fish caught... need a SeaNet ^_^
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Dec 07 20:00:50 <[debris]> will DHT will be monitored?
Dec 07 20:00:53 <joeshojmdm> "will utorrent be open source" = no... "will utorrent be ported to linux" = probably?... "will utorrent always be free?" = yes... "who's going to develop utorrent now?" -- bittorrent inc... "will utorrent's encryption be removed?" = unanswered... did i miss anything?
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Dec 07 20:01:16 <dAbReAkA> joeshojmdm, encryption wont be removed
Dec 07 20:01:17 <true> joeshojmdm: It isn't free. You contradicted yourself.
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Dec 07 20:01:24 <laz> Utorrent for Mac os X in the future?
Dec 07 20:01:25 <ludde> this channel is too noisy.
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Dec 07 20:01:26 <Loki|Work> "will there be a mac utorrent" - maybe, probably
Dec 07 20:01:32 <LycoLoco> true: free as in $ not liberty
Dec 07 20:01:41 <Optimo> loki p/m
Dec 07 20:01:42 <true> LycoLoco: It's licensed freely, the client is not free
Dec 07 20:01:44 <Loki|Work> kk
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Dec 07 20:01:48 <jkiefer> Bram, how do you see this furthering the goals of BT inc
Dec 07 20:01:54 <Bram> joeshojmdm: no, encryption won't be removed
Dec 07 20:01:57 <LycoLoco> true: for who? the end user? I've never paid for uTorrent, therefore, free
Dec 07 20:01:59 <Jonas^> a question for the everyone, that I´ve been looking for an answer to: Are there any clients that has the option to Automatically move files once downloaded (ie to external hdd)?
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Dec 07 20:02:14 <teeG> Jonas^: µtorrent ?
Dec 07 20:02:15 <true> LycoLoco: but you do not own it. Read.
Dec 07 20:02:16 <nascent> Bram: will you be removing tetris?
Dec 07 20:02:20 <Johny-D> LOL
Dec 07 20:02:22 <nascent> =P
Dec 07 20:02:24 <AresXP> tetris?
Dec 07 20:02:25 <Johny-D> Jonas... uTorrent!
Dec 07 20:02:25 <Ehm> lol
Dec 07 20:02:26 <Rauz> :))
Dec 07 20:02:27 <dAbReAkA> so, in one sentence, what good should we (utorrent users) expect from that so called merge?
Dec 07 20:02:28 <LycoLoco> true: quit talking semantics
Dec 07 20:02:29 <daddyfizz> Jonas - yes utorrent :)
Dec 07 20:02:32 <teeG> Jonas^: "move completed torrents to.."
Dec 07 20:02:32 <Jonas^> oww
Dec 07 20:02:35 <Rauz> AresXP, press T in the About uTorrent box.
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Dec 07 20:02:39 <LycoLoco> Jonas^: yes, you can do that in uTorrent
Dec 07 20:02:39 <AresXP> hahaha
Dec 07 20:02:40 <alcaholjunkie> Jonas^: there's an option in µtorrent to move completed downloads to a certain folder of your choice ^_^
Dec 07 20:02:42 <Zook> Hrm.
Dec 07 20:02:43 <Jonas^> port it to osx! :)
Dec 07 20:02:45 <Zook> Another question.
Dec 07 20:02:46 <Zook> A non-stop train leaves city A for city B at 60m.p.h. At the same
Dec 07 20:02:46 <Zook> time, another train leaves city B for city B at 50 m.p.h. How far apart
Dec 07 20:02:46 <Zook> are the trains one hour before they meet?
Dec 07 20:02:49 <true> LycoLoco: It's truth, however you reject it. Not quite spin.
Dec 07 20:02:51 <Loki|Work> good question dAbReAkA
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Dec 07 20:03:01 <ludde> join #utorrent-questions if you have questions!
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Dec 07 20:03:15 <Loki|Work> lol
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Dec 07 20:03:27 <alcaholjunkie> Zook: they are 110Miles apart ^_^
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Dec 07 20:04:54 <alcaholjunkie> ahhh silence ^_^
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Dec 07 20:04:56 <matta> We have posted an FAQ about the acquisition in the uTorrent forums: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17280 please read the FAQ before asking questions
Dec 07 20:05:02 * Bram has changed the topic to: Welcome to #utorrent :: IMPORTANT MESSAGE: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17279 read the FAQ before asking questions http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17280 join #utorrent-questions for new questions
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Dec 07 20:05:40 <Sanchez> oh damn
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Dec 07 20:05:46 <Sanchez> i guess i'll stop working on my faq
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**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 7 20:06:11 2006
Dec 07 20:06:11 * Now talking on #utorrent
Dec 07 20:06:11 * Topic for #utorrent is: Welcome to #utorrent :: IMPORTANT MESSAGE: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17279 read the FAQ before asking questions http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=17280 join #utorrent-questions for new questions
Dec 07 20:06:11 * Topic for #utorrent set by Bram at Thu Dec 7 20:05:02 2006
Dec 07 20:06:14 <_5618_> lol
Dec 07 20:06:22 <Bram> there aren't any user monitoring features in mainline BitTorrent, and there aren't going to be any added to utorrent
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Dec 07 20:07:58 <Loki|Work> well it is quiet in here now
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Dec 07 20:08:03 <Feeling> :o
Dec 07 20:08:03 <Feeling> ;(
Dec 07 20:08:06 <Sanchez> weird. :-/
Dec 07 20:08:07 <alcaholjunkie> it's +m, lol
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Dec 07 20:08:09 <Sanchez> lurkers.
Dec 07 20:08:14 <Sanchez> oh. awesome
Dec 07 20:08:14 * Feeling kicks Loki|Work to #sct
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Dec 07 20:08:26 <Loki|Work> ack
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Dec 07 20:08:31 <Loki|Work> am I not there?
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Dec 07 20:10:15 <_5618_> where there, Loki?
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Dec 07 20:12:37 <Loki|Work> gah people, read the topic for the other channel to ask questions
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Dec 07 20:15:53 <ludde> http://slyck.com/story1357.html
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Dec 07 20:16:14 <ludde> JOIN #utorrent-questions IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
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Dec 07 20:18:51 <Bram> development is going to continue on the utorrent codebase, we have several people working on it
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Dec 07 20:19:08 <ludde> there will continue to be a simple commandline based bittorrent client.
Dec 07 20:19:25 <ludde> what IDE was utorrent developed upon? Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0
Dec 07 20:20:09 <Bram> with a few routines written in visual cobol
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Dec 07 20:20:27 <ludde> in which language is uttorent written? It's written in C++ with some tiny chunks of assembly.
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Dec 07 20:21:10 <Bram> utorrent will continue to be available and continue to be free (as in, no cost, not open source)
Dec 07 20:21:20 <ludde> will utorrent or the official client be the base for the new merged client? There will continue to be two separate clients.
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Dec 07 20:21:53 <Zaggynl> Utorrent uses a lot of Windows API's right? Won't that be a problem when porting to *nux/OSX
Dec 07 20:21:53 * #utorrent :You need voice (+v) (#utorrent)
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Dec 07 20:22:05 <ludde> are you using some special windows apis or libraries or do you think you can do same footprint on any operation system? I don't think the footprint would go up all that much on Linux or OSX, the executable would be a bit larger, but memory footprint would still be quite low.
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Dec 07 20:22:51 <ludde> Utorrent uses a lot of Windows API's right? Won't that be a problem when porting to *nux/OSX <-- Yes, the UI is tightly bound to Windows APis, however, the core backend is easier to port.
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Dec 07 20:23:36 <Bram> the utorrent UI is windows native, so porting that part to osx or linux is a significant amount of work (but planned to be done at some point)
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Dec 07 20:31:04 * _5618_ feels for you guys
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Dec 07 20:32:20 <Bram> download rates of different clients is a fairly complex subject, but we have plans to do some improvements which will outperform anything currently out there (simplifying drastically here)
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Dec 07 20:32:32 * Feeling snuggles _5618_
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Dec 07 20:32:53 <Loki|Work> hey hey
Dec 07 20:32:57 <Loki|Work> none of that
Dec 07 20:33:03 <alcaholjunkie> bah >.< xchat isn't letting me click on the #utorrent-questions tab, lol
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Dec 07 20:33:07 * uTorrent gives voice to alcaholjunkie
Dec 07 20:33:16 <Bram> feeling: be aware that there are like 500 people from all over the net reading this channel
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Dec 07 20:33:24 <_5618_> lol, Feeling
Dec 07 20:33:32 <Feeling> yes i know :o
Dec 07 20:33:35 <_5618_> he's weird like that, Bram
Dec 07 20:33:38 * Loki|Work laughs
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Dec 07 20:33:47 <_5618_> you develop a blind spot
Dec 07 20:33:51 <Feeling> :(
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Dec 07 20:33:59 * _5618_ licks Feeling's face
Dec 07 20:34:01 <_5618_> there there
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Dec 07 20:34:07 * Feeling giggles
Dec 07 20:34:15 <Feeling> are you my daddy?
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Dec 07 20:34:55 <_5618_> Keep it PG there, Feeling.
Dec 07 20:34:55 <Loki|Work> o_o
Dec 07 20:35:16 <Loki|Work> people should stay in here as well as #utorrent-questions so they can see some questions answered
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Dec 07 20:35:37 <Loki|Work> lol aliljet|moderationSucks
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Dec 07 20:36:14 <_5618_> aliljet|moderationSucks - read the channel topic
Dec 07 20:36:23 <Loki|Work> he's in the other channel
Dec 07 20:36:27 <Loki|Work> he just wants to talk here too
Dec 07 20:36:37 * aliljet|moderationSucks is now known as LokiIsRight
Dec 07 20:36:37 <Feeling> keep it PG?
Dec 07 20:36:40 <Feeling> oO
Dec 07 20:36:46 <Loki|Work> this is so ya'll can read the answers that Bram and ludde are putting out
Dec 07 20:36:50 <Loki|Work> you can't read much in the other channel
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Dec 07 20:37:23 <Feeling> kk ban him
Dec 07 20:37:24 <Feeling> ¬¬
Dec 07 20:37:28 <Loki|Work> well no but they talk a lot
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Dec 07 20:37:39 * DreadWingKnight has kicked TheChanIsntThatLarge from #utorrent (Banned(3600s) [M] build a bridge, get over it <Q§> #9589)
Dec 07 20:37:44 <Loki|Work> lol
Dec 07 20:37:54 <Loki|Work> now he can't see anything in here
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Dec 07 20:38:17 <_5618_> just set +N
Dec 07 20:38:26 <Loki|Work> ha
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Dec 07 20:38:45 <Feeling> Splinter Cell: Double Agent by Ubi Soft Montreal - retail v1.02 patch
Dec 07 20:38:45 <Feeling> Release Notes v1.02:
Dec 07 20:38:45 <Feeling> Multiplayer:
Dec 07 20:38:45 <Feeling> - Disconnexion issues have been fixed at loading time and ingame
Dec 07 20:38:50 <Feeling> hmm nice spelling
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Dec 07 20:38:52 <Loki|Work> ok I've been asked to keep our personal convos out of here, so we can see bram and ludde's answers
Dec 07 20:38:56 <Loki|Work> so shush people
Dec 07 20:39:05 <Feeling> :o
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Dec 07 20:39:57 <Bram> utorrent and libtorrent are different codebases
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Dec 07 20:40:43 <Zaggynl> s
Dec 07 20:40:43 * #utorrent :You need voice (+v) (#utorrent)
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Dec 07 20:41:01 <Bram> drm is supported by content and players, and doesn't involve content distribution tools directly (i.e. not utorrent or mainline)
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Dec 07 20:43:14 <Bram> we recently created a handy publishing feature, by the way http://www.bittorrent.com/publish.html utorrent doesn't currently support it properly, we'll be adding that soon
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Dec 07 20:45:27 <Bram> bittorrent.com content will be available to the public
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Dec 07 20:45:45 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! parcheto has set a new channel peak of 268!!!
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Dec 07 20:49:05 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! Okram has set a new channel peak of 270!!!
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Dec 07 20:50:06 * Smoovious ||| WHIP-CRACK!!! ||| New channel peak reached!!! james has set a new channel peak of 273!!!
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Dec 07 20:50:39 <Loki|Work> lol brams computer went ot sleep
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Dec 07 20:51:07 <BLaZor> cheers mate
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Dec 07 20:51:28 <Loki|Work> wb brainy
Dec 07 20:51:31 <Loki|Work> erm.. Bram
Dec 07 20:51:31 <BLaZor> hey matta
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Dec 07 20:51:45 <Loki|Work> lol DreadWingKnight, you did the same thing I did
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Dec 07 20:52:18 <BLaZor> wow
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Dec 07 20:52:26 <BLaZor> nice to see the torrent forces joined :)
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Dec 07 20:53:31 <BLaZor> god mothercuking damn
Dec 07 20:53:36 <alcaholjunkie> huh?
Dec 07 20:53:44 <BLaZor> how many peeps can you squeeze in here
Dec 07 20:53:53 <_5618_> enough
Dec 07 20:53:57 <BLaZor> after the *news* the channel has shot up
Dec 07 20:53:58 <alcaholjunkie> more than you can into a mini ^_^
Dec 07 20:54:03 <_5618_> but keep thoe convo down in here, please
Dec 07 20:54:10 <BLaZor> kk _5618_
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Dec 07 20:54:17 <_5618_> #utorrent-questions for all ;)
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Dec 07 20:54:29 <Loki|Work> Bram and ludde are answering questions in here for readablity
Dec 07 20:54:44 <BLaZor> ahh kk.
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