22:01:10: <esf> i think i've had enough of this channel and its freaking mob tribe mentality
22:01:12: <FSSO> and PIS is right to be fair
22:01:14: <FSSO> everyone does it
22:01:15: <Swartaz> Myt, my parents being one Liverpool and one Man City, you'd be right :P
22:01:18: <Aels> then leave, go ahead
22:01:23: <FSSO> all fans go on the defensive when its their club under the spotlight
22:01:26: <Aels> no one's asking you to stay
22:01:30: <Audioslavia> I am
22:01:32: <Audioslavia> I am asking you to stay
22:01:41: <Audioslavia> But I am too late, it appears
22:01:44: <myt> indeed
22:01:45: <Aels> good riddance, seriously, he can't take a bit of criticism ever
22:01:48: <Swartaz> ooh ragequit
22:01:50: <Val|WI> Excuse me for what I am going to say, but ESF is a twat.
22:01:53: <FSSO> you were not even criticisng him
22:01:58: <Aels> you're forgiven Val
22:02:00: <myt> PIS - I go on the defensive, but I wouldn't have caused this aha
22:02:01: <Val|WI> I cannot really stand him.
22:02:07: <Swartaz> typical Man U fan 'eh? :P
22:02:15: <Darmen|DPL_Season_3> actually, scratch that
22:02:25: <Aels> it's okay to defend your club and your players, but you've got to take the stick
22:02:30: <myt> all I said was 'scum' and he went apeshit
22:02:51: <myt> but as I said, Americans don't seem to understand the tribalism of UK/European fans
22:02:59: <Swartaz> ^
22:03:02: <Aels> I honestly don't even know why he's an op here, not like he ever does anything
22:03:03: <Audioslavia> <Myt> all I said was 'scum' and he went apeshit. "Scum" isn't a nice word, but I see your point
22:03:04: <Osarius> i was just about to bring that up (again)
22:03:08: <Val|WI> The thing that annoys me about him is that he believes everyone bar him is an idiot
22:03:08: <Swartaz> how could they tbh myt?
22:03:28: <Aels> Swartaz/Myt: not American, but not European either, and I understand it
22:03:28: <FSSO> myt what you say is true
22:03:41: <FSSO> ESF gets in a hissy fit because he doesn't understand it
22:03:44: <Aels> but I have supported Liverpool all my football life
22:03:49: <FSSO> although it's not all about nationality
22:03:52: <Swartaz> Aels, you live in England
22:03:57: <FSSO> more obliviousness to footballing tribal mentality
22:04:00: <Aels> I've only been here six months
22:04:01: <Swartaz> makes a massive difference
22:04:05: <Swartaz> even so
22:04:05: <myt> Audioslavia - I see it as perfectly acceptable when talking about United, but again, if someone mentioned money where City were concerned I'd argue, but I wouldn't rage
22:04:14: <pis> "he ragequit becuase he doesn't understand" is a dangerously snobby way of looking at it
22:04:28: <myt> PIS, Americans don't have truly 'local' sports teams
22:04:38: <Aels> no, he ragequit because he felt he was being attacked when really he wasn't
22:04:48: <pis> therefore esf can never understand our way of life?
22:04:50: <myt> they aren't brought up as hating a club and told the local team's fans are inbred :p
22:04:54: <pis> looked like he was being attacked from where i''m sitting
22:04:56: <FSSO> yeah i know PIS, but it has an element of truth to it. of course pinning it all on that is a bit unbased though
22:04:57: <myt> *the other
22:05:04: <Val|WI> That childish behaviour doesn't talk that well of a channel operator, nor is the way an op should behave.
22:05:04: <pis> i was uncomfortable watching it, i'll put it that way
22:05:07: <Aels> his team were
22:05:08: <Aels> he wasn't
22:05:10: <commerceheights> super saves from Marek Čech
22:05:14: <Audioslavia> United fans do tend to get a bit weird when you criticise them, in my experience. I remember telling a United supporting friend of mine that Cantona was never quite the same player in Europe as he was in the EPL. He went alittle apeshit. It was quite funny :)
22:05:21: <Saugeais> Unless you live in the area of a major sports team in the US, you are considered a bandwagoner.
22:05:53: <Aels> it's not the first time ESF's reacted like this to someone criticising United
22:05:54: <Saugeais> you are right, we don't have a major team every 5 miles to get behind
22:06:09: <Aels> he doesn't criticise other teams is not a valid reason for preventing us criticising United
22:06:13: <Saugeais> so we don't know the "tribalism" as you put it
22:06:15: <pis> its not the first time its looked like the criticims was aimed at him rather than the club, either.
22:06:17: <myt> meh, I'm not really bothered at this point - I don't really think I did anything and he then had a go and then Aels said something and then he quit, or something
22:06:18: <pis> but thats just my opinion
22:06:22: <Aels> nor is it a valid reason to start going crazy
22:06:35: <Val|WI> I think he believes he's perfect.
22:06:46: <myt> LOL Val|WI
22:06:49: <myt> I actually lol'ed
22:06:59: <Val|WI> That's what I actually think.
22:07:04: <Osarius> some of us are actually perfect though, tbf
22:07:06: <Osarius> like me
22:07:08: <FSSO> from what i've seen PIS, he takes the club criticisms personally, but then others go personal - i've been guilty of that on one occasion previously
22:07:08: <Aels> PIS, do you want to go back and look at how it started?
22:07:11: <myt> LOL Osarius :p
22:07:14: <Val|WI> No-one is, Osarius.
22:07:15: <FSSO> but not beyond that
22:07:27: <myt> it actually seems like it's whenever I say something
22:07:34: <Osarius> tell that to my fans, Val|WI :P
22:07:38: <myt> last time I said something relating to United he went ape too
22:07:39: <Aels> Myt said "the scum go out I will be the happiest on Earth"; ESF reads it as "scum of the earth"
22:07:50: <Aels> and attacks Myt based on that
22:07:53: <myt> that's actually what he did
22:07:56: <Aels> so *shrug*
22:08:04: <Saugeais> c'mon Schalke!
22:08:14: <myt> I pointed out they were separate parts of what I said but he selectively picked out what he wanted
22:08:22: commerceheights slaps Saugeais :P
22:08:32: <FSSO> commerceheights you must restore sanity
22:08:39: Saugeais returns the slap to commerceheights.
22:08:44: <FSSO> i suggest you look at tae innapropriately
22:08:48: <Val|WI> What do you mean by "restore sanity", FSSO?
22:09:08: <FSSO> Val|WI joke
22:09:12: <FSSO> dun take srs
22:09:26: <Osarius> so.... how 'bout them lakers, eh?
22:09:36: <Val|WI> Kicking you could be a good start, FSSO. :P
22:10:46: <Aels> http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=8525405#p8525405 oooh, someone's pissy
22:11:03: <FSSO> :(
22:11:09: <Val|WI> Good riddance.
22:11:09: <Saugeais> well shit
22:11:16: <myt> fecking hell
22:11:20: <FSSO> aels, valanora is ESF right?
22:11:22: <Swartaz> loooooooool
22:11:25: <Val|WI> Yes
22:11:25: <Aels> it is, FSSO
22:11:30: <Saugeais> welp, time for a new OP?
22:11:32: <FSSO> :/
22:11:42: <Swartaz> what a twat
22:11:44: <FSSO> i think this may have got out of hand a little bit
22:11:47: <Val|WI> A new op? What for?
22:11:57: <Aels> FSSO: I wouldn't lose any sleep over it
22:12:04: <Aels> he's quit NS Sports about 5 times before
22:12:08: <Aels> never gone through with it
22:12:14: <tae> cc how old is habavem
22:12:18: <Saugeais> commitment issues
22:12:20: <Saugeais> :P
22:12:29: <Val|WI> http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=8525400#p8525400 <--- You won't be missed.
22:12:34: <myt> I think he did that last time I proved him wrong
22:12:40: <myt> but then came back
22:12:40: <Aels> I've little sympathy for him if he's going to react this way
22:12:44: <FSSO> commerceheights restore order with marshal law
22:12:48: <Swartaz> yep Myt
22:12:54: <Swartaz> I remember that
22:13:21: <myt> he's taking his ball and going home
22:13:28: <pis> i don't see the need to withdraw like that.
22:13:49: <pis> that's a tad absurd
22:13:50: <myt> completely unrelated, PIS
22:14:03: <Awaydioslavia> I'm going to do some things, such as smoke and say hello to my flatmates. By the time I come back, I want you all to have stopped bitching. That's going on fifteen minutes now and it's a little tiresome. Peace.
22:14:41: <myt> how long until he puts a message in the WCDT?
22:14:44: <Val|WI> Smoking's so disgusting...
22:14:52: <Aels> probably typing it as we speak Myt
22:15:46: <pis> posted, aels
22:15:55: <pis> low on ideas today, so a little dig at your exploits last night
22:15:59: <pis> if its too close to the bone lemme know
22:16:00: <Aels> ta
22:16:05: <Aels> np
22:16:48: <pis> (bus spitting incident unrelated)
22:17:14: <FSSO> so PIS and swartaz, ready for your bi-annual fight this weekend?
22:17:21: <myt> lol, I don't think anyone can top my exploits
22:17:48: <Swartaz> aha FSSO :p
22:18:22: <Swartaz> I'm already getting in the mood, so long wait 'till Sunday
22:18:39: <FSSO> swartaz, don't forget your knuckle dusters - i hear pis bites now
22:18:45: <Aels> Chetkosk: soon as you post please let me know and I'll cut off
22:18:59: <pis> i'm not afriad to punch below the belt
22:19:06: <Aels> people have had two days to RP anyway, they can't complain if I cut it 30mins early
22:19:15: <Swartaz> ooh it's on PIS :p
22:19:39: <FSSO> by the way guys, where do i submit stadium bids for club tournaments?
22:19:51: <Aels> in the main thread, no?
22:20:01: <FSSO> discussion or newswires?
22:20:08: <Aels> newswires
22:20:09: <Val|WI> Newswires
22:20:36: <commerceheights> TOR! Schalke 2–1 Plzeň (3–2 aggregate) :S
22:21:11: <Val|WI> \o/
22:21:33: <Val|WI> Sorry for Viktoria Plzeň. :P
22:21:42: <FSSO> commerceheights, i forget, is it the champions cup that you host?
22:21:52: <FSSO> i was thinking of submitting a final stadium bid for the next one
22:22:13: <commerceheights> and?
22:22:41: <Saugeais> Schalke!
22:22:44: <Saugeais> Yes!
22:22:54: <commerceheights> No! :P
22:22:59: <Saugeais> :P
22:23:22: <Saugeais> where is Plzen from?
22:23:30: <Val|WI> Czech Republic
22:23:30: <commerceheights> Plzeň :P
22:23:32: <myt> Czech Republic
22:23:35: <Chetkosk> Posted Aels. Totally hit writers block halfway through, but meh.
22:23:42: <Saugeais> you and your fancy accents, CH. :P
22:23:56: <Val|WI> An op-supported team must fall today.
22:23:56: <commerceheights> no, I meant they’re from Plzeň :P
22:24:22: <Saugeais> and both Polish teams are out. :(
22:24:29: <Val|WI> It wasn't United, so why not Plzeň? :P
22:25:16: <Aels> I realise this Olympics is longer than most other Winter ones have been, and intentionally so
22:25:17: <Aels> will do
22:25:47: <FSSO> ...and nothing commerceheights, i was just making sure you are the host of the champions cup :P
22:26:18: <commerceheights> okay, but why does it matter? :P
22:26:55: <FSSO> because i wasn't sure and needed clarification :P