[4:24:48 AM] kesper_north: can i level with / lobby with you for a sec?
[4:25:10 AM] tewkz: as a friend sure, not as a voter/pawn/anything else
[4:25:15 AM] kesper_north: that's fine.
[4:25:41 AM] kesper_north: my point is that virtually everything GENTS does, despite being CFC, is ~serious business~
[4:25:52 AM] kesper_north: we are literally the elitepvp arm of the coalition
[4:25:58 AM] kesper_north: and that applies to the CSM as well
[4:26:22 AM] kesper_north: i expect and desire for mittens to assume chair
[4:27:12 AM] kesper_north: but as i look around this coalition i find it difficult to imagine that anyone else will pull votes necessary to win a seat due to the disintegrated political situation currently dominating the CFC
[4:28:20 AM] kesper_north: if other nullsec alliance leaders can raise a presence that's fine and dandy, but presently i sense fewer than seven major blocs in existence
[4:28:46 AM] tewkz: test will get a free seat
[4:28:49 AM] tewkz: and waste it
[4:28:53 AM] tewkz: and i'm pretty upset about it
[4:29:02 AM] kesper_north: i know and that is retarded
[4:29:14 AM] kesper_north: which is why i am talking to you now so that some few votes might go elsewhere
[4:29:32 AM] kesper_north: it doesn't matter if it goes to me, it can go to mittens for all i care.
[4:29:44 AM] kesper_north: i just don't want TEST to have power they literally don't deserve
[4:30:46 AM] tewkz: this will require two things
[4:30:53 AM] tewkz: 1) talk to montolio about why his primary is a shitty idea
[4:30:57 AM] tewkz: that's already hard enough
[4:31:00 AM] tewkz: telling monty he's wrong
[4:31:01 AM] tewkz: is oof
[4:31:19 AM] tewkz: 2) start a grassroots campaign about why other candidates are better worth spending votes on than any of the test candidates
[4:31:22 AM] tewkz: that's also hard
[4:31:25 AM] kesper_north: baaaahahaahahhaa
[4:31:27 AM] kesper_north: telling
[4:31:29 AM] kesper_north: montolio
[4:31:30 AM] tewkz: because try telling test that they're shit unironically
[4:31:36 AM] kesper_north: that his latest idiotic idea
[4:31:36 AM] kesper_north: is
[4:31:37 AM] tewkz: and they get ~maaaad~
[4:31:37 AM] kesper_north: wrong
[4:31:38 AM] kesper_north: wolol
[4:32:21 AM] kesper_north: seriously i have no idea how montolio won any allies because, fuck, he is like hitler on LSD having gonorreah hallucinations while his ballls rot off
[4:32:52 AM] tewkz: rofl
[4:32:54 AM] tewkz: he's a smart guy
[4:33:02 AM] tewkz: and has a culture that was easy to build around
[4:33:10 AM] tewkz: he just doesn't think things through i think
[4:33:21 AM] kesper_north: he has intelligence but he makes poor decisions
[4:33:30 AM] kesper_north: "lol i think i'll give gents space to snigwaffe"
[4:33:37 AM] tewkz: hey now
[4:33:46 AM] tewkz: i'll have you know that esg is infinitely worse than sniggwaffe
[4:33:48 AM] tewkz: i resemble that remark
[4:34:04 AM] kesper_north: yes but esg is also politically tolerable and marginally blue
[4:34:16 AM] kesper_north: with a word i had mittani on the verge of reseting test there and then
[4:34:22 AM] kesper_north: for :fuckgoons:
[4:35:09 AM] tewkz: talking to the guy his ideas seem irrational and shitty
[4:35:16 AM] tewkz: but you have to admit that he managed to get test to where it is today
[4:35:18 AM] kesper_north: i and a lot of other people more important than me were seriously spacemad
[4:35:21 AM] kesper_north: yes
[4:35:24 AM] tewkz: and thats impressive
[4:35:27 AM] kesper_north: this is my experience of montolio
[4:35:37 AM] kesper_north: yet he runs one of the biggest alliances in eve
[4:35:55 AM] kesper_north: tewkz can i be frank with you for a moment here? serious business style?
[4:35:56 AM] tewkz: a lot of it is a cultural force
[4:36:00 AM] tewkz: as frank as you want
[4:36:40 AM] kesper_north: gents could failcascade test in about a month by deploying first to their theatre then to fountain. They are helpless idiots with no meaningful leadership.
[4:37:15 AM] kesper_north: I love the idea of TEST.
[4:37:16 AM] tewkz: what, and fighting them?
[4:37:24 AM] kesper_north: This implementation of TEST is doomed to fail.
[4:37:35 AM] kesper_north: Our definition of fighting is not yours.
[4:37:50 AM] tewkz: test has a lot going for it that won't let it cascade
[4:38:01 AM] tewkz: it should have cascaded after being drug through 4 shit deployments and losing in 3 of them
[4:38:21 AM] tewkz: it has a culture that will keep fighting
[4:38:31 AM] tewkz: if anyone leaves, they were faggots and not a true scotstest to begin with
[4:38:50 AM] tewkz: test can unironically ride posting all the way to the end of time
[4:39:06 AM] tewkz: you said your definition of fighting isnt the same as tests
[4:39:17 AM] tewkz: i think test's definition of failure isn't the same as yours
[4:39:28 AM] tewkz: test has literally set definitions up culturally that won't let it fail at anything
[4:39:39 AM] tewkz: and that culture, more so than montolio's leadership, has carried test to where it is
[4:39:54 AM] kesper_north: Respectfully, I don't think that TEST has met a devil quite like us.
[4:40:50 AM] tewkz: you can't kill a community that was founded on the backs of losing everything they owned in a goon hotdrop while they were mining
[4:42:26 AM] kesper_north: I must respectfully disagree. Based on experience I still believe that FC skill has a place against the horde.
[4:42:51 AM] kesper_north: Also… to be blunt, we know TEST's FCs intimately. There were many spans of time in which we led them.
[4:43:04 AM] tewkz: believe me, i know, i taught most of those shitlords
[4:43:24 AM] tewkz: i think the only way to truly kill test if it were ever to happen
[4:43:29 AM] tewkz: is to have members lose faith in montolio
[4:43:39 AM] tewkz: that faith will never be broken even if test loses all sov tonight
[4:43:53 AM] kesper_north: so i will just throw this out here but
[4:43:56 AM] kesper_north: i will wager
[4:44:01 AM] kesper_north: there were some partisans
[4:44:04 AM] kesper_north: who said the same thing
[4:44:07 AM] kesper_north: about karttoon
[4:44:23 AM] tewkz: i wouldn't know about what transpired back then
[4:44:33 AM] tewkz: I don't act or look it but I'm still barely over a year eve-old remember :p
[4:44:41 AM] kesper_north: neither would i but i do know it is human nature to abhor a power vacuum
[4:44:59 AM] kesper_north: you HAVE to accept that SOMEONE is trying to take that old guy's job
[4:45:02 AM] tewkz: and i dont think gsf lost faith in kartoon so much as he lost faith in gsf
[4:45:10 AM] kesper_north: if you are not planning for that you're retarded
[4:45:15 AM] tewkz: nobody is trying to take montolio's job, montolio is giving it to someone
[4:45:20 AM] tewkz: he is grooming people
[4:45:22 AM] tewkz: to take over for him
[4:45:32 AM] tewkz: he was grooming me at one point till i rage joined am0k
[4:45:42 AM] tewkz: and teaching me all about secret politik that i know more about now
[4:45:48 AM] kesper_north: your view of montolio is naive
[4:46:01 AM] kesper_north: he is deploying weapons
[4:46:28 AM] tewkz: what do you mean by that
[4:47:21 AM] kesper_north: what i said. look at context and the degree to which montolio will aggressively subsume the positions of his enemies and do the math yourself.
[4:48:41 AM] tewkz: hmm
[4:48:57 AM] tewkz: so i'm a weapon, i'm pretty sure you've caught me off guard but I can see what you're saying
[4:49:05 AM] tewkz: I am defending test really aggressively in this conversation
[4:49:21 AM] tewkz: and I have very few reasons to do it anymore
[4:49:25 AM] kesper_north: you are a deniable knife, my friend!
[4:49:50 AM] kesper_north: an advocate who is not an advocate
[4:51:00 AM] kesper_north: i literally have no political agenda here
[4:51:07 AM] kesper_north: i'm just toying because i'm bored and drunk
[4:51:11 AM] tewkz: i'm a little taken aback, and to be honest, I see what you're saying but part of me wants to deny it and tell you that it's my own nature and I wasn't in any way designed to do this
[4:51:11 AM] kesper_north: and i love these games
[4:51:28 AM] kesper_north: oh i know!
[4:51:35 AM] tewkz: also, part of me wonders when the fuck I ever became important at all
[4:51:47 AM] kesper_north: it's just that i fucking love this shit, it's why i play eve.
[4:52:01 AM] tewkz: what about me makes me different from all these other shitlords playing eve, that vile rat and pl would actively go out of their way to try and poach me
[4:52:11 AM] tewkz: (fwiw, vilerat's poaching has been a success, I'll be in gsf soon)
[4:52:29 AM] kesper_north: well
[4:52:34 AM] kesper_north: i hate to go all nazi on you
[4:52:42 AM] tewkz: cripes
[4:52:44 AM] kesper_north: but frankly in eve it's all about the will to power
[4:53:01 AM] tewkz: part of choosing weapons is making sure your swords are sharp, why am i sharp
[4:53:07 AM] tewkz: this has been bugging me for a few weeks now
[4:53:24 AM] kesper_north: in a world of aspies you can talk to real humans
[4:53:51 AM] tewkz: surely there are more people in eve that can do that
[4:54:00 AM] tewkz: and I mean, I'm not exactly the most sane person mysel
[4:54:00 AM] tewkz: f
[4:54:21 AM] kesper_north: the set of peopple who can be Speakers To Seafood and the set of people who can be Trusted With Opsec is a very small intersection cone.
[4:55:09 AM] tewkz: I feel like neither, apparently I'm both
[4:55:19 AM] kesper_north: yes tewkz
[4:55:28 AM] kesper_north: there is a name for that feeling
[4:55:33 AM] kesper_north: it is 'politician'
[4:55:54 AM] kesper_north: you have to learn to feel proud of that
[4:56:00 AM] kesper_north: and embrace it
[4:56:12 AM] tewkz: I'm going to be completely honest with you here, my mental health isn't the greatest
[4:56:18 AM] tewkz: it's hard for me to feel proud of myself for anything
[4:56:22 AM] kesper_north: you play eve, duh
[4:56:25 AM] tewkz: also, I'm curious, what's your opinion of me
[4:56:32 AM] kesper_north: i lack data
[4:56:48 AM] kesper_north: you seem like an intelligent person but i have yet to see you tested by combat ir diplomacy
[4:56:58 AM] kesper_north: like oh say THIS OPPORTUNITY GRANTS YOU
[4:57:09 AM] kesper_north: this is your chance to shine, friend
[4:57:13 AM] tewkz: dick
[4:57:15 AM] tewkz: :p
[4:57:16 AM] kesper_north: i suggest you make the most of it
[4:57:21 AM] kesper_north: confirming i am a dick
[4:58:00 AM] kesper_north: placed where you are now thanks to a combination of upbringing and privilege my first instinct would be to maximize personal advantage and make other people look like shit because i am obviously so awesome
[4:58:11 AM] kesper_north: you are deliberately deployed in a position for you to do the same
[4:58:26 AM] kesper_north: as your attorney i advise you to do lots of drugs, then do the same thing
[4:58:28 AM] tewkz: I've been nothing but groomed my entire eve career by everyone in cfc leadership
[4:58:31 AM] kesper_north: except, you know, more awesome
[4:58:44 AM] kesper_north: mmm
[4:58:45 AM] kesper_north: see
[4:58:55 AM] kesper_north: imo that is a disadvantage
[4:59:01 AM] kesper_north: i've never been groomed by anyome but me
[4:59:10 AM] kesper_north: i've had to learn so much because of that
[4:59:14 AM] tewkz: it has it's perks and it has it's downsides
[4:59:21 AM] tewkz: I've learned a lot and missed out on some education
[4:59:29 AM] tewkz: and how many one year old eve players find themselves in the spot that I'm in
[4:59:37 AM] kesper_north: right
[4:59:47 AM] kesper_north: not manyt
[4:59:56 AM] kesper_north: also fuck you for outdoing my record asshole
[4:59:59 AM] kesper_north: *standings reset*
[5:00:06 AM] tewkz: what record :p
[5:00:17 AM] kesper_north: and how many one year old eve players find themselves in the spot that I'm in
[5:00:31 AM] tewkz: where were you a year in?
[5:00:46 AM] kesper_north: just became the leader of majesta empire
[5:01:07 AM] kesper_north: i had a lot more strings and less supportive allies
[5:02:08 AM] tewkz: vile rat and mittani go out of their way for one reason or another to take care of me
[5:05:00 AM] kesper_north: therein lies my opinion re: politics
[5:05:02 AM] tewkz: i've been specifically told that I'm really good with people
[5:05:26 AM] kesper_north: in my term as leader of majesta i had no backup, i mean vuk lau was the 'leader of the nc'
[5:05:33 AM] kesper_north: it was snakes al the way down
[5:05:38 AM] kesper_north: now
[5:05:51 AM] kesper_north: imagine you are the leader of an alliance as shitty as say, black-mark is now
[5:05:54 AM] tewkz: you did take majesta to a very good place without any help from what i understand
[5:06:04 AM] kesper_north: you have a couple of really fucking gifted dudes under your command
[5:06:15 AM] kesper_north: and between you you are basically carrying the alliance
[5:06:17 AM] kesper_north: but
[5:06:29 AM] kesper_north: you experience a sudden coup
[5:06:41 AM] kesper_north: how the fuck do you maintain good relations with other alliance leaders?
[5:06:53 AM] kesper_north: especially people used to pure dictatorships?
[5:06:55 AM] kesper_north: it's fucking hard
[5:07:16 AM] kesper_north: even then though we could see that the CFC was the direction 'fun' was going
[5:07:21 AM] tewkz: this basically just happened to me
[5:07:28 AM] tewkz: i was ceo of esg for a week
[5:07:33 AM] tewkz: white tree basically trolled me out
[5:08:05 AM] kesper_north: tss
[5:08:07 AM] kesper_north: friend
[5:08:14 AM] kesper_north: ESG is a dead alliance walking
[5:08:22 AM] tewkz: dont remind me
[5:08:25 AM] kesper_north: the very fact that that could even happen shows it
[5:08:52 AM] tewkz: i am well aware that my lack of self confidence and me leaving esg is probably what kills it
[5:09:02 AM] tewkz: it might stay existant and treadwater for a very long time
[5:09:09 AM] tewkz: but without progress or growth it might as well be dead
[5:09:13 AM] tewkz: vegetative is the word i'd use
[5:10:02 AM] kesper_north: I would argue that vegitative entities are actually cancerous because they allow propagandas to pad his battle estimates :P
[5:10:15 AM] tewkz: you know who that is right
[5:11:16 AM] kesper_north: i keep hearing jogyn or whatever but i have no idea who to believe
[5:11:46 AM] tewkz: im p sure it's jogyn
[5:12:03 AM] kesper_north: yeah tbh jogyn makes sense
[5:12:08 AM] kesper_north: in any case, fucking asshole
[5:12:20 AM] kesper_north: i have little respect for people who troll purely for the sake of trolling
[5:12:39 AM] kesper_north: if they do it, it should be a goddamned eloquent awesome troll
[5:12:48 AM] kesper_north: otherwise it's just too fucking easy and they should be ashamed
[5:12:57 AM] tewkz: forum culture is rough
[5:13:05 AM] kesper_north: TODD is an example of a great fucking troll
[5:13:42 AM] tewkz: todd's posts are amazing
[5:13:58 AM] kesper_north: i know who he is
[5:14:07 AM] kesper_north: he only actually started playing eve a month or two ago
[5:14:11 AM] kesper_north: before he was just on kugu
[5:14:36 AM] kesper_north: i desperately wanted his rifter for gents but he joined GSF
[5:15:27 AM] tewkz: ive heard he's been exposed
[5:16:14 AM] tewkz: the problem is that people keep biting on bad trolls
[5:16:17 AM] kesper_north: he was a little too open with the foreplay community but because his ingame identity is such a noob it is not exciting at all
[5:16:38 AM] tewkz: so people like jogyn and penif can just keep getting entertained when the entire cfc gets up in arms
[5:18:56 AM] kesper_north: yeah i fucking hate that
[5:19:16 AM] tewkz: anyway, as far as what we were talking about, I want to go back to [4:58:00 AM] kesper_north: placed where you are now thanks to a combination of upbringing and privilege my first instinct would be to maximize personal advantage and make other people look like shit because i am obviously so awesome
[5:19:25 AM] tewkz: I'm not going to do that :P
[5:19:40 AM] tewkz: part of my weakness as a weapon is that I don't have a single malicious bone in my body
[5:19:51 AM] kesper_north: your spirit of nobility conflits with your GSF/TEST heritage!
[5:20:00 AM] tewkz: I mean, when I think someone is a faggot I'll call them all up and down on their shit and get riled up
[5:20:06 AM] kesper_north: tsk tsk sir you are sounding suspiciously like a GENT
[5:20:15 AM] tewkz: but I'm really unwilling to hurt anyone I have a relationship with
[5:20:46 AM] kesper_north: so is this the sort of relationship you have where you make breakfast for the other person in the morning or what
[5:21:06 AM] tewkz: dude have you seen these people that play eve
[5:21:08 AM] tewkz: god i hope not
[5:21:19 AM] tewkz: no, I treasure friendships to an exceedingly faggy degree
[5:21:35 AM] tewkz: that's probably why I find them so easy to make and so hard to risk breaking
[5:21:44 AM] tewkz: which is why I've basically been in limbo for the past week or so
[5:23:44 AM] tewkz: as far as sounding like a gent, get peacetime reimbursement and we'll talk :P
[5:23:58 AM] tewkz: actually the real reason I'm joining GSF is vile rat's frankness and honesty towards me and why he wants me in gsf
[5:27:09 AM] tewkz: my "niceness" I think can be a strength and a weakness
[5:27:34 AM] tewkz: I don't think if I had to make a hard decision and break a friendship I could, but at the same time the friendships I do make are a lot more profitable than most
[5:27:44 AM] tewkz: for example, this conversation that you're giving me right now
[5:27:45 AM] tewkz: :)
[5:28:05 AM] tewkz: I'm learning a lot from this opportunity and that's shining enough for me
[5:28:47 AM] tewkz: also i swear to christ if you just passed out during my moment of triumph i am going to be all kinds of spacemad at you
[4:56:56 PM] kesper_north: actually what happened was my a literally knocked a glass of ater over on my keybord
[4:57:24 PM] kesper_north: cat, water, keyboard
[4:57:34 PM] kesper_north: and by keyboard i mean laptop
[4:57:42 PM] kesper_north: ws kind of a big deal
[6:34:05 PM] tewkz: no worries, is it okay?
[6:35:03 PM] kesper_north: yeah it looked very bad at first, the screen died, but when it dried out it was totally fine
[6:35:24 PM] tewkz: thank god it wasn't like a mixed drink or something
[6:35:34 PM] kesper_north: i know right
[6:35:39 PM] kesper_north: i spilled a glass of wine on a laptop once
[6:35:44 PM] kesper_north: that definitely never came back
[6:35:51 PM] kesper_north: though i know someone who spilled coke on his
[6:36:10 PM] kesper_north: he disassembled it and cleaned it by soaking the mobo in dionized water, then let it dry for a few days
[6:36:12 PM] kesper_north: and it worked again
[6:36:35 PM] tewkz: it's possible
[6:36:38 PM] tewkz: and worth the effort
[6:36:42 PM] tewkz: but gah what a headache
[6:37:27 PM] kesper_north: yeah
[8:52:04 PM] tewkz: when you get bored we should keep talking
[8:54:24 PM] kesper_north: sure
[8:54:54 PM] kesper_north: i just got done playing some tribes
[8:55:00 PM] kesper_north: they've really changed the interface
[8:55:03 PM] kesper_north: and rebalanced some shit
[8:55:11 PM] kesper_north: and now i have 6000 gold and an insame amount of xp
[8:55:11 PM] tewkz: i really like the new setup
[8:55:15 PM] kesper_north: and there's no such things as tokens anymore
[8:55:19 PM] kesper_north: yeah actually i'm a fan
[8:55:27 PM] tewkz: also, thanks to my socks full of poop I was basically able to max out 7 classes
[8:55:28 PM] tewkz: heh
[8:55:28 PM] kesper_north: my one complaint is that technician turrets seem to have way less HP now
[8:55:44 PM] kesper_north: so they do not live long
[8:56:23 PM] tewkz: well now I think you can get them from ammo pickups
[8:56:37 PM] kesper_north: OH REALLY?
[8:56:42 PM] kesper_north: Well that is fucking good to know
[8:56:51 PM] kesper_north: I was wondering how the enemy tech was spamming the fucking things so fast
[8:57:25 PM] tewkz: i had an interesting talk with montolio earlier today
[8:58:17 PM] kesper_north: oh really
[8:58:26 PM] kesper_north: i am always eager to learn what the fuck is going on inside that insane head of his
[8:59:16 PM] tewkz: it kind of left a sour taste in my mouth
[8:59:22 PM] kesper_north: how so
[8:59:58 PM] tewkz: it really rubbed me the wrong way how much frustration he showed when I told him I wasn't joining test
[9:00:09 PM] tewkz: and he lashed out at me accusing me of making excuses for joining goons
[9:00:14 PM] tewkz: which kind of hurt
[9:00:28 PM] tewkz: the "excuses" as it were, were twofold
[9:00:43 PM] tewkz: they both stem from my intimate familiarity with test leadership
[9:01:28 PM] tewkz: 1) it's a weird awkward reunion if I join test. As ESG was in it's infancy I felt really iffy about it and asked to join dreddit. Montolio told me his directors wouldn't let him (but that's of course something he can easily force and change public opinion of)
[9:01:57 PM] kesper_north: right
[9:02:12 PM] tewkz: 2) I'd try to do too much work for the alliance and I really just want to focus on my own needs and growth, a lot of test leaders (especially medea) come to me for a lot of help. As personal friends with the leadership I'd try to do too much just to make their lives easier
[9:02:20 PM] tewkz: I'm altruistic and self-sacrificing to a stupid degree
[9:02:28 PM] tewkz: that's not a smugpost, I think it's kind of a weakness
[9:02:36 PM] kesper_north: i understand
[9:02:49 PM] kesper_north: plus there's all the weird old bad blood over your leaving and whatnot
[9:02:56 PM] kesper_north: and montolio himself generally acting like a drunken uncle
[9:03:04 PM] kesper_north: beating you then telling you you're his bestest bro
[9:03:23 PM] tewkz: the way I explained it to vile rat is
[9:03:32 PM] tewkz: "at least when you use me I don't feel like a piece of shit about it"
[9:04:11 PM] kesper_north: hahahaha
[9:04:38 PM] kesper_north: yeah that was one of the reasons gents distanced itself from test pretty firmly, we got tired of montolio coming to us with some crazy scheme he wouldn't explain but that he wanted to use us for
[9:10:01 PM] tewkz: I felt really skeezy about the whole conversation
[9:10:23 PM] tewkz: I mean, yeah I'd be pretty frustrated if tewkz isn't joining my alliance but fuck dude, treat me like a person
[9:12:52 PM] kesper_north: now you know how pretty girls feel about being objectified? :D
[9:13:01 PM] tewkz: i guess so
[9:13:38 PM] kesper_north: ooh i should totally name my new cyno alt Dictor Bubble
[9:13:48 PM] kesper_north: or maybe Bubbles Up
[9:13:56 PM] kesper_north: i'm just pissed Admiral Snackbar is taken
[9:27:50 PM] tewkz: parody your friends names
[9:27:53 PM] tewkz: always the best way to go
[9:28:05 PM] tewkz: Te Dickgirl Wkz
[9:28:08 PM] tewkz: for example
[9:28:15 PM] kesper_north: yeah i think bloodtears have a Kesper West in zergy
[9:30:29 PM] kesper_north: wonder if Alt Character is taken
[9:30:43 PM] kesper_north: my friend mjed mazga has an alt named mjed mazda
[9:35:34 PM] tewkz: that kind of owns
[9:36:27 PM] kesper_north: mjed mazga is apparently hungarian for brass mule
[9:36:43 PM] kesper_north: so of course he owns brassmule, too
[9:57:07 PM] tewkz: so how do you feel about tewkz for csm 8
[10:06:51 PM] kesper_north: i'd feel a lot better about kesper for csm 8 ;)
[10:07:05 PM] tewkz: pfffft
[10:07:07 PM] tewkz: WE'LL SEE
[10:07:16 PM] tewkz: maybe we can just talk mittens into shoving the whole csm in
[10:07:18 PM] kesper_north: if you're in goons though they will vote for mittani not you
[10:07:35 PM] tewkz: they have enough alts to split votes ;p
[10:08:24 PM] tewkz: they did for vile rat!
[10:08:54 PM] tewkz: anyway, I'm going to spend the next year learning a lot, watching a lot, and developing these "politician" traits people smarter than me found that I didn't :p
[10:08:58 PM] tewkz: and we'll see what happens
[10:09:28 PM] tewkz: If I don't feel good about my chances, you'll gladly get my endorsement unless you turn crazy
[10:09:46 PM] tewkz: does that sound good? :D
[10:10:19 PM] kesper_north: with the changes to the csm GSF has no real reason to want more than one candidate, i suspect mittens is happy to let the other nullsec players have a slice
[10:10:41 PM] tewkz: hey, instead of shitting on my dreams you could just be nice :smith:
[10:11:04 PM] tewkz: jerk
[10:11:05 PM] tewkz: dream shitter
[10:11:15 PM] tewkz: Kesper "Dream shit" North
[10:11:17 PM] tewkz: that's you >:(
[10:13:12 PM] kesper_north: lol
[10:13:21 PM] kesper_north: well, i'm just trying to offer good counsel ;)
[10:14:30 PM] tewkz: in return for this misgrievance
[10:14:34 PM] tewkz: I demand you help me find a job
[10:14:39 PM] tewkz: or at least look over my resume
[10:18:48 PM] tewkz: if you do not meet my demands i will be forced to push for a reset of gents and i will besmirch your good name on kugu
[10:21:24 PM] tewkz: I'll take a shower and await your answer :colbert:
[10:21:37 PM] kesper_north: well okay shore
[10:21:42 PM] kesper_north: i'm looking for a new job myself
[10:21:50 PM] kesper_north: my current one is underpaying me
[10:22:32 PM] tewkz: i can uh, fix computers good and stuff
[10:22:33 PM] tewkz: brb shower
[10:35:57 PM] tewkz: I have returned
[10:36:00 PM] tewkz: gib email so i can gib resume
[10:45:57 PM] kesper_north: sorry i was putting my wife to bed
[10:46:01 PM] kesper_north: kesper_north@eve-mail.net
[10:46:24 PM] tewkz: you should get a new chloroform dealer, that took way too long ;P
[10:46:40 PM] kesper_north: i know right
[10:49:05 PM] tewkz: sent
[10:49:09 PM] tewkz: here's an interesting article
[10:49:13 PM] tewkz: top 5 regrets of the dieing
[10:49:20 PM] tewkz: 1) I wish I'd had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.
[10:49:24 PM] kesper_north: not enough felching?
[10:49:27 PM] tewkz: 2) I wish I hadn't worked so hard.
[10:49:32 PM] tewkz: 3) I wish I'd had the courage to express my feelings.
[10:49:37 PM] tewkz: 4) I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.
[10:49:42 PM] tewkz: 5) I wish that I had let myself be happier.
[10:49:49 PM] tewkz: all also eve-related
[10:49:50 PM] tewkz: heh
[10:49:53 PM] kesper_north: lul
[10:49:53 PM] tewkz: eve is real
[10:50:11 PM] tewkz: "eve is real" is a punchline now, but I actually kind of feel that way
[10:50:19 PM] tewkz: I feel like I'm making real relationships and applying real world skills
[10:50:26 PM] tewkz: haven't felt that way about a videogame before
[10:54:51 PM] kesper_north: yeah i'm interviewing for a project manager position and i feel like i should be able to put eve alliance leadership on my resume
[10:55:24 PM] tewkz: i wish i could market my eve abilities more
[10:56:05 PM] tewkz: jobs: Space Diplomat
[11:02:49 PM] tewkz: vile rat has me pinned
[11:03:04 PM] tewkz: he wants me to watch, learn, think, and advise him on anything I feel the need to
[11:03:13 PM] tewkz: those are all things i feel pretty good at
[11:03:20 PM] tewkz: help me find a real job I can use those for
[11:05:18 PM] tewkz: he also doesnt want me to have any direct responsibility
[11:05:23 PM] tewkz: which pretty much suits me perfectly
[11:10:53 PM] kesper_north: so you're a professional peanut gallery huh
[11:11:09 PM] tewkz: okay listen
[11:11:18 PM] tewkz: you're really going to have to slow down on this dream shit thing
[11:11:22 PM] tewkz: before you start oweing me plexes
[11:11:23 PM] tewkz: :p
[11:11:24 PM] kesper_north: hahaha
[11:11:26 PM] kesper_north: sorry
[11:12:06 PM] tewkz: you even agreed with him jerk :p
[11:12:11 PM] kesper_north: in all seriousness though that role sounds kind of like a business consultant
[11:12:25 PM] tewkz: i'm apparently good at realtalking people, using realtalk to get data and find problems worth solving, and coming up with solutions
[11:12:29 PM] kesper_north: go in, look and learn, give advice, get paid, punch out
[11:12:42 PM] tewkz: how does one become a business consultant
[11:12:51 PM] tewkz: oh man i should do that for ccp, that would kind of own
[11:12:56 PM] kesper_north: i have no idea, i am not a business consultant
[11:13:01 PM] kesper_north: they already have those, they're called CSMs
[11:13:04 PM] tewkz: yeah, but you're an adult
[11:13:11 PM] kesper_north: christ seriously?!
[11:13:13 PM] kesper_north: FUCK
[11:13:16 PM] tewkz: i'm a 24 year old kid :D
[11:13:23 PM] kesper_north: i got news son my wife is 26
[11:13:38 PM] tewkz: pedo
[11:13:41 PM] kesper_north: you no longer qualify as a kid ;)
[11:13:58 PM] tewkz: I'm only as mature as I pretend to be :colbert:
[11:14:22 PM] kesper_north: i don't get to use :colbert: enough
[11:15:00 PM] tewkz: it's a good face
[11:15:05 PM] tewkz: smugbert is also quality
[11:15:12 PM] kesper_north: fuck i thought i had downloaded this show and i had not
[11:15:12 PM] kesper_north: fuck
[11:15:17 PM] kesper_north: now i have to wait like TEN FUCKING MINUTES
[11:15:34 PM] tewkz: what show?
[11:16:15 PM] tewkz: oh! can i talk you into watching my favorite show with me and mo' whenever we start watching it?
[11:16:20 PM] kesper_north: white collar
[11:16:25 PM] kesper_north: that depends on what show
[11:16:30 PM] kesper_north: i'm also downloading archer
[11:17:03 PM] tewkz: do you not trust my taste enough :smith:
[11:17:12 PM] kesper_north: trust, but verify :colbert:
[11:17:14 PM] kesper_north: HA
[11:17:16 PM] kesper_north: THERE YOU SEE
[11:17:17 PM] kesper_north: I DID IT
[11:17:30 PM] tewkz: i need the golfclap emote but i forget what it is
[11:17:32 PM] tewkz: anyway, well done
[11:17:37 PM] tewkz: the show's called "Baccano!"
[11:17:45 PM] tewkz: in the interest of full disclosure, it is an animue
[11:17:53 PM] kesper_north: if this is some sort of telenovela shit, i am cynoout.gif
[11:17:58 PM] kesper_north: oh
[11:18:03 PM] kesper_north: anime is sometimes good
[11:18:10 PM] tewkz: but i'm out to prove that animus are just another medium with both good shows and awful travesties that make lots of noise
[11:18:19 PM] kesper_north: it's true
[11:18:49 PM] kesper_north: what sort of shows do you like in general
[11:19:10 PM] kesper_north: hey you know what tradik is studying to be?
[11:19:12 PM] tewkz: i dont really like one particular genre over another, but there are certain aspects i look for
[11:19:14 PM] kesper_north: a pastry chef
[11:19:17 PM] tewkz: that owns
[11:19:28 PM] kesper_north: he so does not seem like a pastry chef
[11:19:31 PM] kesper_north: but whatever works, man
[11:19:51 PM] tewkz: i look for a solid plot line that ties episodes together and manages to wrap things up well towards the end of the show
[11:20:00 PM] tewkz: i look for massive amounts of character growth and development
[11:20:09 PM] tewkz: static characters that don't change make for horrendously boring shit
[11:21:05 PM] tewkz: id prefer it not to be easy to watch
[11:21:11 PM] tewkz: hmm that doesn't sound like what i want to say
[11:21:28 PM] tewkz: I like shows that don't hand feed you everything, an element of surprise, intrigue, and expectation is nice
[11:21:55 PM] tewkz: if i know what to expect then why keep watching
[11:22:23 PM] kesper_north: gents leadership is totally addicted to this BBC show called Hustle
[11:22:49 PM] kesper_north: however there's seven whole seasons of it and part of an eighth
[11:22:55 PM] tewkz: christ
[11:22:57 PM] tewkz: tooooo long
[11:23:16 PM] tewkz: that's another reason i like anime
[11:23:23 PM] tewkz: anime is less of a business and more of an art than tv
[11:23:26 PM] tewkz: god that sounds pretention
[11:23:29 PM] tewkz: ious*
[11:23:32 PM] tewkz: let me rephrase
[11:23:51 PM] kesper_north: your FACE is pretentious
[11:23:52 PM] tewkz: i think the motives behind tv and anime are slightly different, network tv is more focused around revenue than i think it should or could be
[11:24:05 PM] tewkz: no, my face is brown
[11:24:08 PM] tewkz: you're confusing the two
[11:24:12 PM] kesper_north: that's true but it's usually less so for BBC stuff imo
[11:24:34 PM] tewkz: anime is also always shorter
[11:24:38 PM] tewkz: (if it's worth watching anyway)
[11:24:51 PM] tewkz: the super long serials, two of them are okay, but most suck
[11:25:35 PM] tewkz: baccano was only 13 episodes on release, 16 total on dvd
[11:25:45 PM] tewkz: i guess 13 when aired, 16 on dvd
[11:25:57 PM] tewkz: he wrote 3 more to sort of explain out what happens after the end
[11:26:02 PM] tewkz: then he just moved on to a new project
[11:26:05 PM] tewkz: (which is equally amazing)
[11:32:46 PM] tewkz: AHAHAHAHA
[11:32:47 PM] tewkz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur_WqzyJj_U
[11:32:49 PM] tewkz: OH GOD MY SIDES
[11:56:45 PM] kesper_north: You should check out White Collar though, great show