19:00 Shadow14l Remember the whole ordeal several months ago with Ezza?
19:00 FearGorm ?
19:00 FearGorm what exactly
19:01 Shadow14l A few parts about the arguing, perhaps the KotH's
19:01 Shadow14l The whole story
19:01 FearGorm mmhmm
19:01 Shadow14l A different perspective would be nice.
19:02 FearGorm I mean
19:02 FearGorm I became a mod
19:02 FearGorm I created a koth that was open to everyone and well publicized
19:02 FearGorm and that's it I guess
19:02 Shadow14l You started the first KotH's?
19:02 FearGorm nope
19:03 Shadow14l Who did, exactly?
19:03 FearGorm there were people doing KOTH on mumble before me, before ezza
19:03 FearGorm I think maybe Tuna, but who cares really
19:03 Shadow14l Yeah
19:03 Shadow14l wonder where that all sob went
19:03 FearGorm imo the existence of one event doesnt exclude others
19:03 FearGorm so the idea of "stealing" an event is ludicrous
19:04 FearGorm particularly since I started it completely independently of anyone
19:04 FearGorm and didnt tell anyone to do it in particular
19:04 FearGorm ezza has been pretty hostile ever since
19:04 Shadow14l That's his personality
19:04 FearGorm at first it started at jokes about me being a mod
19:04 FearGorm then it turned to downright hostility
19:04 FearGorm I try to just ignore it
19:04 FearGorm it's not worth it
19:04 Shadow14l You should ignore it.
19:05 FearGorm I try to haha
19:06 Shadow14l He says to that everyone now, it's almost an invitation to be his friend now
19:06 Shadow14l pretty much
19:06 Shadow14l You should be flattered
19:06 FearGorm =P strange way of expressing it
19:06 FearGorm he's OK when he's not being hostile and negative
19:06 Shadow14l Everyone is different
19:06 FearGorm can be very funny
19:06 FearGorm but other times it's too much to deal with
19:06 Shadow14l He has some pretty good stories
19:06 FearGorm mmhmm
19:06 Shadow14l and you know they're true because they're fuckin' hilarious
19:07 Shadow14l The only thing he really didn't like was the fact that he didn't get "credit", not karma, but just a notion that he helped a little
19:08 Shadow14l You should have seen him. He was doing the weekly coaching for r/starcraft2_class for months
19:08 FearGorm I don't really understand that though
19:08 FearGorm seeing as I started something completely separate
19:09 FearGorm I mean, did he want credit for the idea of a KOTH?
19:09 FearGorm KOTH exists in ever game
19:09 FearGorm every*
19:09 Shadow14l I think he wanted credit for all the koths he did start, not the ones that were already there, but just that he was doing quite a few
19:10 FearGorm I mean if he just wanted acknowledgement that he was doing koth as well he could have asked
19:10 FearGorm I wouldn't have had any problem
19:10 FearGorm but I can't read minds
19:11 Shadow14l I so do hope that xD
19:12 Shadow14l He just felt that all the work he put in, was just stolen from him, not ideas necessarily
19:12 FearGorm Well if he felt that way, he could have told me and told me how I could help
19:12 FearGorm but I think he viewed it as competition
19:13 FearGorm which I think is silly
19:14 Shadow14l He didn't view it as a competition, he just felt like he had lost a lot of credit and respect
19:14 FearGorm I think he should question why that is
19:14 FearGorm he drives a lot of people away from himself b being aggressive
19:15 FearGorm I think he might think that the reason a lot of his friends no longer frequent mumble and dont hang out with him
19:15 FearGorm is because I started events
19:15 FearGorm which is abbbbbsurd
19:15 Shadow14l I don't think that, and I'm fairly sure he doesn't either
19:15 Shadow14l If you're referring to GT
19:15 Shadow14l especially
19:15 FearGorm idk what happened with GT
19:16 FearGorm i stopped hanging out there before that saga
19:16 Shadow14l I'll give you a breakdown
19:16 Shadow14l the main frequenters in the mumble
19:16 Shadow14l decided to off of CrazyPyro's idea for GosuTrolling.com
19:16 Shadow14l Evoli thought it would be funny and bought that website right on the spot
19:17 Shadow14l Less than a month later Evoli, Navi, Cheticus, joined the mumble server Monika bought them
19:17 Shadow14l and the few others
19:17 Shadow14l as well
19:18 Shadow14l But you should see the stupid shit Ezza has to deal with, in real life, it's fuckin' hilarious and awful at the same time.
19:19 FearGorm sure
19:19 FearGorm I don't know his IRL situation
19:19 FearGorm but nothing warrants the way he trats others
19:19 FearGorm I mean even today I saw a post where he called me a fucktard
19:19 FearGorm i havent spoken to the guy in over half a year
19:19 FearGorm wut
19:21 Shadow14l That's what can result from a misunderstanding
19:22 FearGorm maybe, but that's never a mature way to address it
19:22 Shadow14l A useless and unnecessary year long hatred for nothing
19:22 FearGorm mmhmm
19:22 Shadow14l Maturity is a delicate word here
19:22 FearGorm yeah
19:23 Shadow14l Remember, everyone does bad things, and everyone does stupid shit as well
19:23 FearGorm well I'm sorry if it seemed like I willfully tried to claim credit or steal anything
19:23 FearGorm and I'm sorry how things turned out
19:23 FearGorm at this point I'm really exhausted of it
19:23 FearGorm and want the sniping to stop
19:24 FearGorm I acknowledge that I should have been more proactive as far as understanding his side of the issue
19:24 FearGorm my bad
19:24 Shadow14l I'm not saying it's entirely your fault, it was both of yours's
19:25 Shadow14l I'm not sure if I'll be able to change his mind, but that doesn't mean people don't change
19:26 FearGorm well I'm willing to put this behind us
19:27 FearGorm it's fine if you tell him this btw
19:27 Shadow14l I just felt like it was easier talking to you first, because that way I could fill in the holes as I went, rather than trying to talk to him with none of your perspective
19:28 Shadow14l Also the stupid shit with "blackmailing" crazypyro and Coral temp "banning" us from the Mumble due to Stackr... I hope none of that is going on anymore.
19:29 Shadow14l Anyways it's birthday in a few days, hopefully I can help end this by then.
19:29 FearGorm thanks for asking me about my side
19:30 Shadow14l I always try and respect both parties
19:30 Shadow14l But you've got to admit, the 60 downvotes he got from that post was pretty funny
19:31 FearGorm lol
19:31 FearGorm it was pretty brusque
19:31 FearGorm I agree that the subreddit is terrible now though
19:31 Shadow14l Unfortunately
19:31 FearGorm even I though I don't think mods should be cleaning up stupid posts
19:31 FearGorm the quality is definitely bad
19:32 Shadow14l I think it depends on the scope
19:32 Shadow14l But I don't think Shade deserves what he told me as: "I wish I wasn't being publicly hung right now"
19:32 Shadow14l That must be bad enough beyond most things one person can say
19:32 FearGorm reddit loves hyperbole
19:33 Shadow14l Especailly since either way he was only doing what he thought was right in his mind, whether or not it was
19:33 FearGorm I think what he has done is wrong
19:33 FearGorm but the rhetoric is not
19:33 FearGorm it's mob mentality
19:33 FearGorm its animalistic
19:33 Shadow14l Which is one of the horrible things about Reddit
19:33 FearGorm but thats reddit
19:33 FearGorm yup :C
19:33 Shadow14l I also heard that English isn't his first language
19:34 Shadow14l So it's even a much more rough ride if that's true
19:34 FearGorm yeah he's foreign
19:36 Shadow14l poor guy
19:36 Shadow14l Although, was it really his decision to introduce diggity and that other guy as mods as well?
19:38 FearGorm I have no clue about that
19:38 FearGorm i havent been involved since I voluntarily bowed out
19:39 Shadow14l The best way to dodge a shitfest is to leave it
19:40 FearGorm yeah
19:42 FearGorm anyway i gtg but yeah tell Ezza sorry for any offense and Id like to bury the hatchet