[20:29:51] <Cult> hey ramirez?
[20:36:13] <ramirez> hi
[20:36:17] <Cult> hey
[20:36:26] <Cult> have u been involved with the nms thing?
[20:36:37] <ramirez> i read a bit about it, but not really
[20:36:41] <Cult> hmm ok
[20:36:48] <Cult> as i wanted to explain my side to an admin other than zero
[20:36:55] <ramirez> go ahead
[20:37:03] <Cult> as me and him don't really see eye to eye anymore as he abuses a lot of my clan and i dont like it
[20:37:03] <Cult> ok
[20:37:04] <ramirez> i know enough to understand the circumstances
[20:37:07] <Cult> ok
[20:37:17] <Cult> well im going to start from the start
[20:37:32] <ramirez> i'm at work though so don't wonder if i don't respond instantly
[20:37:40] <ramirez> but you can just tell your story here and i'll reply as soon as i have time
[20:38:00] <Cult> got up at 6am to try get some sctfls in, only 2 of us showed. So for 3 hours did nothing, then i started noticing that Hiho were climbing the ranks and it was closing to a good finale.
[20:38:26] <Cult> I joined hiho.soldat and they were super amped up, so i started trying to help them find sctfls so they could make playoffs
[20:38:53] <Cult> After an hour of chattingand all of them hyped up to shit, they told me they were in 2 games, one vs LoD and 1 vs NMS
[20:39:02] <Cult> i specced the LoD ones (they played x2)
[20:39:25] <Cult> after they lost we wre all pretty deflated and went back to hiho channel. I then remember they played NMS, and so i asked if they beat NMS
[20:39:46] <Cult> dez said NMS won
[20:39:56] <Cult> So i then went on to tell hiho if they cant beat nms they dont deserve playoffs
[20:40:15] <Cult> I then noticed NMS didn't post the war for like 35 mins or so, so i presumed they didn't have screens, so i said REPLAY THE WAR GOGOGOOG
[20:40:22] <Cult> (it was in the last 45 mins of freeplay)
[20:40:30] <Cult> then dez said he had screens and they were posting now
[20:40:33] <Cult> and that was that
[20:40:40] <Cult> then the report came up
[20:40:42] <Cult> and it was a tie
[20:40:49] <Cult> so instantly i got onto des, REPLAY REPLAY RPELAY
[20:41:27] <Cult> i thought they classed the tie as a win, as they had stopped hiho making playoffs.. euro's struggle with english so i didn't even care to think they had rigged the fucking report (which has pretty much stuffed me in turn)
[20:41:40] <Cult> i then pestered NMS for 20 minutes to replay
[20:41:42] <Cult> and in the end they did
[20:41:54] <Cult> mid-way through roptten erza had to go (parents yelling at him)
[20:42:07] <Cult> NMS pretty much threw rotten though , made no effort at all to win.
[20:42:41] <Cult> i edited the report as the time was nearly over and erza (the guy who had to go) was the one who posted it, so i being a helper, edited the report correctly and the replayed rotten was added
[20:42:54] <Cult> after that hiho got real sad because they thought it was bullshit and unfair
[20:43:10] <Cult> at the time i thought they were being retarded. sure NMS threw the match, but hiho can't be blamed for that.
[20:43:42] <Cult> [12:05:11] <bible_basher> alright
[20:43:42] <Cult> [12:05:12] <bible_basher> gn
[20:43:42] <Cult> [12:05:17] <bible_basher> this is fucking ridiculous
[20:43:42] <Cult> [12:05:37] <+Cult`> lol bible_basher is such a drama queen holy shit
[20:43:54] <Cult> i called him a drama queen
[20:44:03] <Cult> as i had no idea why hiho were making such a huge cry
[20:44:13] <Cult> later i find out that they had played rotten again in the first war
[20:44:15] <Cult> and NMS won
[20:44:26] <Cult> hence Hiho suddenly feeling remorse
[20:44:44] <Cult> at this stage shit has hit the fan and zero asks me about it, at the time im oblivious to the fact rotten was replayed
[20:45:00] <Cult> and then the logs are given to me of me asking dez who won, and dez saying NMS did
[20:45:23] <Cult> but not once, was it mentioned that rotten had been replayed and i was under the impression the war was tied
[20:45:48] <Cult> i mean cheeseman AND dicko are in hiho and both online, one of them should of told us guys trying to get the replay that the war was lost, NOT tie
[20:46:17] <Cult> I was deceived just as much as the admins and SCTFL, yet now i find myself facing a ban and almost definatly losing my helper status
[20:46:24] <ramirez> how would you be under the impression it was tied when he explicitly told you they won, and you even asked him to post the report
[20:46:41] <Cult> i was never once told
[20:46:45] <Cult> their was a replay of rotten
[20:46:50] <Cult> i checked the report when he posted it
[20:46:57] <Cult> and was wtf'ing to myself as the war was a tie
[20:47:01] <Cult> after dez said they won
[20:47:20] <Cult> but i didn't care to think why he told me they won so i just tried to get a replay
[20:47:37] <Cult> as the report was a draw
[20:47:42] <Cult> and the screens matched everything
[20:47:56] <ramirez> staffers of SCTFL are supposed to be objective, the fact that you even tried to help them overtake another clan kind of goes against our policy
[20:47:59] <Cult> and when i was hassling for a replay, i was never ever told by either NMS or hiho that the report was fucked
[20:48:20] <Cult> It wasn't me trying to get them to overtake xreich, more helping them acheive their goal
[20:48:48] <Cult> They were all so amped and i've been in that position before and it was a pretty fun experience if it wasn't all lies and shit
[20:49:37] <Cult> if i had known the report was doctored i would of been totally different that i can promise
[20:49:48] <Cult> why would i risk my own head for 2 clans that mean nothing to me
[20:49:50] <ramirez> well, helping them achieve their goal is really not any different from helping to drop out xreich..
[20:50:30] <Cult> yeah i guess, but my intentions weren't knocking out xreich
[20:50:41] <Cult> like i didn't go their with 'i want xreich out of top 20' in mind
[20:50:43] <Cult> i had good intentions
[20:51:25] <Cult> and i would of thought the admins would of given me the benefit of the doubt when i said i was deceived, as being a helper i am meant to be entrusted to en-force the rules of the league, not break them.
[20:51:34] <Cult> if i had known what was going on i would of stopped it all
[20:52:36] <Cult> im just annoyed nobody ever told me there was a replay of rotten
[20:55:09] <ramirez> ok well, thanks for sharing your side of the story
[20:55:14] <ramirez> i'll let other admins know
[20:55:36] <ramirez> and we'll make a decision about what to do when the rest are available
[20:56:15] <Cult> thanks, i'm not trying to shfit the blame but cheese and dicko are both helpers aswell and not once did either of them tell me the war was mis-reported, and that they had replayed rotten