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[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [01:05:13] Unirse	dsal se ha unido a este canal (~Adium@111.93.131.5).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [01:11:09] Unirse	Mook se ha unido a este canal (~mook@adsl-71-138-143-17.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [01:12:00] Salir	H__ ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 276 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [01:12:46] Unirse	H__ se ha unido a este canal (H__@lambermont.dyndns.org).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [02:35:47] Salir	Caemyr ha dejado este servidor (Quit: Exit... stage right).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [02:55:50] Salir	zooko ha dejado este servidor (Quit: Zzz...).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [03:26:27] Unirse	benallard se ha unido a este canal (~benallard@ip51cd8985.speed.planet.nl).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [03:55:39] Unirse	Caemyr se ha unido a este canal (~ni-chu@reactos/tester/Caemyr).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [04:48:00] Unirse	AmineKhaldi_ se ha unido a este canal (~AmineKhal@reactos/tester/BZMaintainer).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [04:51:37] Salir	AmineKhaldi ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 264 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [04:58:39] Unirse	Almad se ha unido a este canal (~almad@phoenix.chservices.cz).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [05:15:26] Salir	Mook ha dejado este servidor (Quit: zzz).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [06:58:54] Salir	TheUni ha dejado este servidor (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [06:59:14] Unirse	TheUni se ha unido a este canal (~quassel@xbmc/staff/theuni).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [08:01:55] Unirse	matsl se ha unido a este canal (~matsl@94.136.75.10).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [10:25:46] <matsl>	djmitche: you there?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [10:42:18] Salir	LRN ha dejado este servidor (Read error: Connection reset by peer).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [10:43:10] Unirse	LRN se ha unido a este canal (~L_R_N@host-81.200.2.147.su29.ru).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [11:21:07] Salir	Almad ha dejado este servidor (Remote host closed the connection).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [11:25:37] Abandonar	matsl ha dejado este canal ("Leaving").[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [11:44:16] Salir	dsal ha dejado este servidor (Quit: Leaving.).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [11:54:41] Salir	Caemyr ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 245 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:15:13] Unirse	Caemyr se ha unido a este canal (~ni-chu@reactos/tester/Caemyr).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:25:08] Unirse	Haos se ha unido a este canal (~ni-chu@nat.urpl.gov.pl).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:25:49] Salir	Caemyr ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 264 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:30:31] Salir	Haos ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 258 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:58:54] <djmitche>	maruel: well, today :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [12:59:14] <bhearsum>	djmitche is ducking catlee's requests for a release :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:00:56] <djmitche>	no, I just forgot about movienight last night[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:01:00] <djmitche>	so, indirectly, I blame warner ;)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:03:37] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:04:03] <djmitche>	I'll do it now tho[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:04:15] <djmitche>	joduinn never sent out call-in info did he?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:04:16] <djmitche>	hrm[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:04:54] <maruel>	no but is there a discussion plan? I just want to know if it's relevant to me[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:05:37] <bhearsum>	he sure didn't[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:15:42] <djmitche>	maruel: the two major points are to decide what goes into 0.8.1 (and who will do it) and what we're just not going to do[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:15:55] <djmitche>	with a review of new features in 0.8.0 too[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:19:02] <djmitche>	maruel: I'd very much like to have you there, since integrating some of google's developent would be great in 0.8.1[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:33:39] Unirse	Mook_sb se ha unido a este canal (~mook@204.16.157.66).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:41:00] Salir	TheUni ha dejado este servidor (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:41:38] Unirse	TheUni se ha unido a este canal (~quassel@xbmc/staff/theuni).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:54:34] Salir	LRN ha dejado este servidor (Read error: Connection reset by peer).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:58:06] Unirse	github-buildbot se ha unido a este canal (~github-bu@sh1-ext.rs.github.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:58:07] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master 03Dustin J. Mitchell * 54b7fc6 (1 files in 1 dirs): update NEWS[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:58:07] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master 03Dustin J. Mitchell * 9d2fd33 (1 files in 1 dirs): add buildbot.test.util[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:58:07] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master commits 8b6b1b3...9d2fd33 - http://bit.ly/92xwDp[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [13:58:07] Abandonar	github-buildbot ha dejado este canal.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:00:00] Unirse	github-buildbot se ha unido a este canal (~github-bu@sh1-ext.rs.github.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:00:01] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07buildbot-0.8.0 03Dustin J. Mitchell * de00b67 (1 files in 1 dirs): update VERSION to 0.8.0rc1 - http://bit.ly/ctrGR9[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:00:01] Abandonar	github-buildbot ha dejado este canal.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:02:19] <catlee>	oooh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:03:59] <bhearsum>	woohoo![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:06:06] <djmitche>	please ignore the part where I released buildbot-0.8.1rc1[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:06:16] <djmitche>	apparently, the words "buildbot" and "0.8.0" are difficult for me to type[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:07:08] Unirse	warner se ha unido a este canal (~user@nat/mozilla/x-sowreyqyqqcsuemc).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:07:09] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:10:46] <djmitche>	maybe I should work for a company with short product names[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:10:50] <djmitche>	like Amazon: S3, EC2, etc.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:12:03] Unirse	LRN se ha unido a este canal (~L_R_N@host-81.200.2.147.su29.ru).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:20:01] <djmitche>	http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/Meeting29April2010 <-- comments?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:20:30] <catlee>	djmitche: when did the behaviour of the source steps change to report the full hash as got_revision?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:20:46] <bhearsum>	what are the first two items, specifically? an overview of those things?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:20:58] <catlee>	and who's going to talk about them? :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:21:11] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:40:23] <djmitche>	catlee: not sure what you mean?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:40:27] <djmitche>	in git?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:41:13] <catlee>	djmitche: nm, I might be lying[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:41:15] <djmitche>	bhearsum: I want to start with a common understanding of where we are in 0.8.0 - what's finished, what's still got interesting work to do[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:42:09] <bhearsum>	ok, i wasn't quite sure if it was "here's what's new section" or a "let's discuss the new features" thing[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:45:15] <djmitche>	yeah, sorry, the agenda itself is at the bottom[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:46:40] <bhearsum>	oh, ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:50:26] <bhearsum>	anyone have thoughts on http://buildbot.net/trac/ticket/809 ? (has to do with priority of different sources of BuildProperty's)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:52:02] <catlee>	I don't understand the bug...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:52:36] <catlee>	unless he's saying that first the request properties get applied, and then the change properties?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:52:51] <bhearsum>	yeah, i think that's what he's saying[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [14:52:53] <maruel>	bhearsum: I agree with your comment[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:07:38] <catlee>	djmitche: yeah, sometime since 0.7.10 hg has started reporting long revisions for got_revision[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:08:48] <bhearsum>	maruel: thanks, gtk[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:09:00] <djmitche>	catlee: "reporting" = appear in web status, or is it using incorrect revisions somehow?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:09:18] <catlee>	djmitche: no, it's correct[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:09:36] <catlee>	djmitche: it's just using the full revision, whereas before it used the short one[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:10:33] <djmitche>	why is that bad?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:10:41] <djmitche>	now that the web status trims revisions nicely..[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:10:59] <catlee>	things that generate filenames based on revision[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:11:04] <catlee>	it's not bad[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:11:06] <catlee>	it's just a change[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:11:48] <djmitche>	ah, ok, hmm[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:12:05] <djmitche>	I suppose it could become an option[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:15:37] <catlee>	yeah...that's a bit of a pain to support too[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:15:47] <catlee>	anyway, might be worth a mention in CHANGES?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:16:00] <catlee>	4ea40fc57a66f72652e83a7224a9c2c621c6bb8b[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:16:46] <djmitche>	ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:17:28] Unirse	Caemyr se ha unido a este canal (~ni-chu@reactos/tester/Caemyr).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:18:58] Unirse	chrisp se ha unido a este canal (~c0960ac8@gateway/web/freenode/x-xwtkogbrbmjcqotv).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:19:49] Unirse	github-buildbot se ha unido a este canal (~github-bu@sh1-ext.rs.github.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:19:50] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master 03Dustin J. Mitchell * caf99ac (0 files in 0 dirs): remove spurious file[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:19:50] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master 03Dustin J. Mitchell * 39c1a74 (1 files in 1 dirs): add news about mercurial revision ids[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:19:50] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07master commits 9d2fd33...39c1a74 - http://bit.ly/98YgxW[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:19:50] Abandonar	github-buildbot ha dejado este canal.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:20:18] Unirse	github-buildbot se ha unido a este canal (~github-bu@sh1-ext.rs.github.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:20:19] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07buildbot-0.8.0 03Dustin J. Mitchell * ff313e4 (0 files in 0 dirs): remove spurious file ...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:20:19] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07buildbot-0.8.0 03Dustin J. Mitchell * c512b5b (1 files in 1 dirs): add news about mercurial revision ids ...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:20:19] <github-buildbot>	buildbot: 07buildbot-0.8.0 commits de00b67...c512b5b - http://bit.ly/c0gzAW[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:20:19] Abandonar	github-buildbot ha dejado este canal.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:27:31] <djmitche>	hmm, mozilla folks: where should I park?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:27:40] <djmitche>	last time I came by was after business hours[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:27:50] <catlee>	don't ask me...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:28:40] <catlee>	I'm on the other wise of the universe[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:28:42] <djmitche>	yeah, or bhearsum :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:28:55] <catlee>	other side...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:29:14] <catlee>	I know there's a lot under the building[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:30:17] <djmitche>	yeah, I'm just not sure if that's legit during working hours[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:30:18] <djmitche>	I'll figure it out..[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:30:26] <djmitche>	hear y'all soon[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:31:28] <catlee>	apparently street parking isn't bad[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:31:49] <catlee>	otherwise there's a public lot just off that roundabout thingy behind the office[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [15:32:14] <catlee>	we don't let strange people into the lot underground apparently[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:03:16] Unirse	Pike_mobile se ha unido a este canal (~user@brln-4d0c3ac9.pool.mediaWays.net).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:03:36] Unirse	armenzg se ha unido a este canal (~armenzg@mozca02.ca.mozilla.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:04:30] <Pike_mobile>	are we using this as backchannel or some other channel?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:04:35] <bhearsum>	this AFAIK[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:04:43] 	 * Pike_mobile is otp[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:04:46] <armenzg>	meeting notes: http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/Meeting29April2010[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:05:02] <Pike_mobile>	n810-style[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:05:07] Unirse	bear se ha unido a este canal (~bear@c-71-230-97-250.hsd1.pa.comcast.net).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:06:01] Unirse	asasaki se ha unido a este canal (~asasaki@people.mozilla.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:06:07] <bhearsum>	video should be here: http://air.mozilla.com/[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:06:50] Unirse	lsblakk se ha unido a este canal (~lsblakk@people.mozilla.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:06:51] <bhearsum>	crash bang boom?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:07:44] Unirse	Rail se ha unido a este canal (~rail@mozca02.ca.mozilla.com).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:07:45] Unirse	rhelmer se ha unido a este canal (~rhelmer@64.9.242.11).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:07:52] <bhearsum>	hey there, rhelmer![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:07:56] <catlee>	hey![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:07:57] <rhelmer>	hey bhearsum [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:02] <catlee>	is that dustin talking?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:07] <rhelmer>	i am in mv[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:10] <bhearsum>	oh, cool[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:10] <rhelmer>	yes[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:19] <catlee>	he's cutting out a bit[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:26] <chrisp>	should the air video be working?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:08:35] <bhearsum>	chrisp: stil lworking on it AFAIK[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:09:05] <bear>	voice dialin backup? skype? ustream feed from laptop on someone's lap?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:09:25] <chrisp>	dustin: talk a little louder?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:09:35] <bhearsum>	chrisp: hit *6669 to turn the volume up for you[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:09:46] <PovAddict>	stream.ogg gives 404[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:09:53] <chrisp>	bhear: thanks[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:10:06] <PovAddict>	and the page retries every two seconds or so... poor server[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:10:59] <bhearsum>	chrisp: np[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:04] <bhearsum>	PovAddict: heh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:04] <benallard>	enjoy guy, unfortunately I have other obligations, If you can record it, I'll be glad to replay it, keep us posted.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:05] <asasaki>	*1 to unmute[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:07] <bhearsum>	that's by design :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:27] <bear>	wow - volume is *low*[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:37] <jhford>	is the mic too far?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:11:40] <bhearsum>	bear: *6669[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:12:05] <bear>	oohhh - much better[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:12:18] Unirse	mozPike se ha unido a este canal (~chatzilla@brln-4d0c3ac9.pool.mediaWays.net).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:12:49] <bhearsum>	can't hear whomever is talking[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:12:54] <lsblakk>	warner[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:12:57] Salir	benallard ha dejado este servidor (Quit: benallard).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:05] <bhearsum>	warner: talk louder! ;-)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:11] <bhearsum>	thanks dustin[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:13] Salir	Pike_mobile ha dejado este servidor (Quit: Leaving).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:25] <mozPike>	hardly[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:43] <bhearsum>	mozPike: *6669[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:13:58] <chrisp>	mumble mumble[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:04] <lsblakk>	hmm[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:05] <maruel>	someone isn't muted[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:12] <bhearsum>	better?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:15] <maruel>	ah, better![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:21] <chrisp>	yes![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:29] <bhearsum>	gtk[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:33] <bhearsum>	toronto will keep muted :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:14:44] Unirse	joduinn-mac se ha unido a este canal (~joduinn@nat/mozilla/x-casffkvdvfpggwjp).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:16:53] <bear>	split the master into scheduler and event-handler?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:18:49] <bear>	toronto mute again?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:18:54] <bhearsum>	presumably, there could be a built in configuration (--simple?) if you want everything all in one[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:18:56] <mozPike>	I guess that's still warner that's hard to hear, right ?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:18:58] <maruel>	thanks[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:19:10] <bhearsum>	which would setup a simple status receiver in the database, or w/e[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:19:14] Unirse	Sly_Squash se ha unido a este canal (~buildbot@greed.cs.ohiou.edu).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:19:37] <bear>	yea, --simple would be unified master using internal listener/handler for events[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:19:42] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:19:59] <joduinn-mac>	mozPike yeah, that was bwarner[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:20:15] <bhearsum>	it makes a lot of sense for large projects, but it really complicates things for simple, small things[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:21:07] <joduinn-mac>	mozPike is that better?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:21:23] <bear>	secondary status only database becomes a custom listener with it's own mirror of the db[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:21:37] <chrisp>	anybody taking minutes?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:21:38] 	 * bhearsum nods to this[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:21:44] <bhearsum>	(to warner)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:30] <lsblakk>	maybe we're taping this?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:44] <lsblakk>	supposedly we are[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:50] <mozPike>	joduinn-mac: yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:54] Whois	mozPike es ~chatzilla@brln-4d0c3ac9.pool.mediaWays.net (Axel Hecht)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:55] Whois	mozPike es usuario en los canales: #buildbot[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:55] Whois	mozPike está conectado vía farmer.freenode.net (Chesterbrook, PA, USA).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:55] Whois	mozPike ha estado inactivo desde hace 5 segundos.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:55] Whois	mozPike ha estado conectado desde 2010-04-29 16:11:56.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:55] Whois	Fin de la lista WHOIS.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:22:58] <bhearsum>	sure -- you could have a second process which listens for status that starts with the build master[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:23:52] 	 * mozPike mumbles logserver, wishful thinking[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:26:18] <bhearsum>	woohoo, video![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:26:21] <bhearsum>	almost...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:26:45] <joduinn-mac>	chrisp we are streaming this at air.mozilla.com; I'll post an ogg file someplace afterwards. [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:26:56] <maruel>	is xml-rpc used?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:27:02] 	 * joduinn-mac just had to kick one of the video systems to restart the stream[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:27:15] <catlee>	jsonrpc?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:27:23] <maruel>	eh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:27:39] <joduinn-mac>	it was working earlier, so not sure how much got dropped[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:27:50] <bhearsum>	who's that talking?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:28:20] <joduinn-mac>	murali[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:28:22] <mozPike>	murali?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:28:36] <bhearsum>	ah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:28:43] <bhearsum>	thx[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:29:35] <joduinn-mac>	in case people cannot read dustin's screen, you can read it here: http://buildbot.net/trac/wiki/Meeting29April2010[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:29:50] <mozPike>	topic that?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:30:09] Aviso	-ChanServ- Channel #buildbot is not registered.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:30:16] <PovAddict>	mozPike: we have no control over the channel topic[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:30:55] 	 * mozPike giggles[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:30:56] <PovAddict>	mozPike: "only ops can set topic" was set on latest freenode server upgrade, and channel is not registered so nobody can become op[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:31:46] <catlee>	there are auth issues to figure out with xmlrpc/json[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:32:13] <PovAddict>	http auth?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:32:28] <Rail>	ssl certs?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:32:40] <maruel>	I see no advantage to shutting down the master remotely[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:02] <bhearsum>	maruel: what happens if you have a cluster of 10 masters you want to shut down ?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:06] <asasaki>	probably only useful in large scale implementations[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:11] <maruel>	mozPike: I requested to register this channel months ago[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:14] <bhearsum>	a PITA to do if you need to log on to 10 machines :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:15] <PovAddict>	bhearsum: you ssh in[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:21] <bhearsum>	to 10 machines?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:26] <bhearsum>	it's not really scriptable[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:28] <PovAddict>	yes it is[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:29] <maruel>	bhearsum: ssh, "make restart"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:39] <bhearsum>	PovAddict: not the same way over-the-web is[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:33:59] <PovAddict>	for host in foo bar baz; do ssh user@$host make restart; done[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:34:05] <maruel>	it's scriptable, we do. But we host most master on a limited number of servers[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:34:48] <catlee>	yeah, but _nicer_ if there's an API for it[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:34:57] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:35:22] <maruel>	sure, I won't block you from merging changes :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:35:49] <PovAddict>	"I've got a great idea for a new [X]. Let's take [existing protocol] and implement it over HTTP!"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:36:06] <bhearsum>	PovAddict: *shrug*[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:36:16] <bhearsum>	i'd be just as happy if it were controllable over the slave port[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:36:30] <bhearsum>	but doing it over http let's you use existing tools to do auth and control[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:37:25] <catlee>	one thing I wanted the latent build slave to do was to prevent me from having to list out each slave individually[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:37:45] <maruel>	using http permits traversing firewall[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:16] <PovAddict>	I never really understood that argument[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:26] <maruel>	PovAddict: try working for a very large company[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:30] <exarkun>	PovAddict: well, you want to put slaves inside your corporate firewall[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:36] <rhelmer>	catlee: one thing i have been doing with cloud-style servers is give them names that can be traversed as a graph[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:36] <exarkun>	PovAddict: and have them punch out to talk to the master[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:38:45] <exarkun>	PovAddict: so they can accept arbitrary code to execute -- inside your corporate firewall[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:39:22] <PovAddict>	so why would the firewall admins want to let you do the same thing enveloped in HTTP?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:39:32] <exarkun>	because they don't know anything about security[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:39:41] <exarkun>	they just know that firewalls create it magically out of nothing[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:39:56] <exarkun>	but firewalls have to let http through, otherwise no one can read their email[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:40:00] <exarkun>	QED[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:40:24] <rhelmer>	catlee:  (re: not listing out each slave individually, not sure if that addresses that though)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:40:25] <maruel>	I disagree with putting too many stuff in sourcestamp[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:40:52] <bhearsum>	i think there needs to be a way to express a build which is made up of many Source's[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:22] <bhearsum>	sometimes different sources from different types of repositories[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:24] <catlee>	rhelmer: I don't quite get what you mean[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:51] <maruel>	bhearsum: then you need a meta checkout tool[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:56] <rhelmer>	catlee: i may have misread your statement[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:57] <rhelmer>	catlee: i assumed you meant you want to not have to get a "master list" of all available nodes[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:57] <bhearsum>	what do you mean?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:41:59] <maruel>	(like gclient, repo, etc)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:42:13] <maruel>	with versionned stuff[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:42:20] <maruel>	svn and git support that natively too[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:42:30] <maruel>	svn:external and .gitsubmodules[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:42:37] <catlee>	rhelmer: yeah, I want to be able to say, here's my EC2 key, spin up up to N nodes.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:43:43] <rhelmer>	catlee: yeah i have been doing that kind of thing with the ec2 tools from shell, but been moving to python/libcloud[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:44:21] <rhelmer>	you can do it kind of like a thread pool, or the simpler "one node, one job"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:44:27] <rhelmer>	and other clever ways i am sure[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:45:58] 	 * joduinn-mac had to restart the video stream; sadly it had borked out and stopped recording at some point. [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:46:11] <joduinn-mac>	it is now streaming, and recording, again[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:48:30] <catlee>	maruel: we've been using the prioritization hooks for that in some ways[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:48:57] <maruel>	ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:49:41] <catlee>	djmitche: we can set up a 'try' area for buildbot[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:49:50] <catlee>	is djmitche reading this?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:03] 	 * maruel laugh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:14] <catlee>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:25] <maruel>	catlee: I don't think he's reading[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:35] <maruel>	catlee: try would be doable[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:46] <maruel>	on the same master in fact[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:48] <catlee>	we have a bunch of machines ready to go I think[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:51:52] <maruel>	"it would be a good integration test"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:53:53] 	 * catlee wants dumb slaves[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:54:03] <maruel>	~me too[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:54:48] <catlee>	we need better tools for composite steps maybe[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:55:18] <Caemyr>	for conditional steps...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:55:46] <bhearsum>	i'm not sure about conditional steps[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:55:59] <catlee>	yes[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:00] <catlee>	yes it is[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:01] <bhearsum>	if you need a conditional step, you should consider moving that logic into a script[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:10] <bhearsum>	(eg, your build system)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:42] <Caemyr>	kinda hard if its only about if "build failed"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:49] <Caemyr>	or if "previous step failed"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:56:58] <bhearsum>	Caemyr: that can be wrapped in the build system[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:57:13] 	 * exarkun coughs[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:57:18] 	 * bear chuckles[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:57:37] <Caemyr>	bhearsum: buildsystem is not mine[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:57:46] <maruel>	exarkun: you run twisted on your phone?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:57:54] <exarkun>	no my phone only runs java[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:00] <bhearsum>	Caemyr: that's fair -- you could wrap it though, couldn't you?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:08] <Caemyr>	i dont think so[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:20] 	 * bhearsum tries hard to remove complexity from BuildFactory's these days[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:38] <exarkun>	Yes please buffer logs on the slave[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:45] <maruel>	bhearsum: yours is a real mess[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:45] <bhearsum>	well, we buffer now[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:47] <bhearsum>	64kb/5s[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:49] <bhearsum>	maruel: no kidding![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:51] <exarkun>	bhearsum: Since when?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:58:56] <bhearsum>	exarkun: a month or so ago[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:00] <bhearsum>	catlee wrote that patch[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:02] <exarkun>	bhearsum: So no released version of buildbot?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:09] <bhearsum>	nope[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:12] <bhearsum>	0.8.0 will have it[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:18] <exarkun>	Okay.  Well, cool.  I'm excited for the time when some of my slaves have that feature.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:39] <catlee>	exarkun: yeah, buffering in memory is in 0.8.0[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:50] <exarkun>	will 0.8.0 slaves talk to 0.7.12 masters?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [16:59:57] <bhearsum>	i think so[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:00:36] <Caemyr>	bhearsum: unfortunately i need to avoid tinkering with BE i use[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:00:41] <bhearsum>	ah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:01:20] <Caemyr>	well, not a problem now, iirc[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:01:48] <catlee>	huh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:01:51] <catlee>	what flag is that?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:02:04] <Caemyr>	i got a trunk on multiple builders prepped and stable, gonna move to triggering tests and adding branches[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:02:13] <maruel>	as long as I can keep my realtime log[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:02:44] <mozPike>	I'd wish the log transfer was more timing based than "chunk I just got"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:03] <catlee>	mozPike: in which way?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:19] <catlee>	mozPike: the slave-side buffering now happens based on a timer[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:31] <mozPike>	catlee: buffer for 5 or 10 secs, or some buffer size, and then transmit[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:36] <mozPike>	oh, it does?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:40] <mozPike>	didn't look in a while[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:52] <exarkun>	that's the feature they were just explaining to me :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:03:58] <bhearsum>	it's 5s or 64kb, whichever comes first, right?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:04:09] <catlee>	yeah, something like that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:04:18] <catlee>	forget the exact values[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:04:40] <maruel>	I say no to to GUIs[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:05:01] <mozPike>	what's happening in the back?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:08:43] <joduinn-mac>	could people introduce themselves when they speak? [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:01] <joduinn-mac>	it would be great help to match voices to irc-nick[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:15] <bhearsum>	2 voices ago was maruel [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:27] <maruel>	hi[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:33] <bear>	is this catlee now?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:35] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:37] <asasaki>	oui[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:41] <joduinn-mac>	hey there - yep, catlee now[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:49] <bear>	and before maruel was the google person?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:54] <joduinn-mac>	...and thats murali[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:09:56] <maruel>	yes[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:10:02] <bhearsum>	maruel is the google person[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:11:12] <bhearsum>	this is maruel[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:12:28] <maruel>	yes, watch for wrong pronounciation[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:12:36] <maruel>	s/yes/easy/[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:12:53] <bhearsum>	:)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:15:08] <exarkun>	Generating configuration is a natural side-effect of GUI configuration though.  Hey, didn't someone write a GUI configurator for buildbot?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:15:20] <exarkun>	Also, Twisted is great, and you can have a function that runs for the entire lifetime of the process if you want it to.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:15:27] <maruel>	here's what I was referring to:[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:15:30] <exarkun>	djmitche is an evil liar.  I will depose him.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:15:31] <maruel>	http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/WebKitTools/BuildSlaveSupport/build.webkit.org-config/config.json[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:16:10] <bhearsum>	thanks maruel [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:16:20] <bhearsum>	is the interpreter for that in public too?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:16:29] <catlee>	well, it's relatively simple to have a master.cfg that reads a DSL to create the dictionary with schedulers, builders, etc.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:16:41] <catlee>	no need to write out python code directly[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:16] <bhearsum>	oh, nm, the interpreter is right there[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:22] <exarkun>	+1[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:23] <maruel>	bhearsum: the interpreter is ridiculously simple inside master.cfg beside config.json[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:29] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:34] <bhearsum>	that's like a micro version of our monster[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:40] <bear>	+1 to remote shell access[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:17:42] <bhearsum>	(except ours is fed by a big dict)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:18:21] <bhearsum>	all of these ideas for community supplied slaves are very interesting[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:18:22] <maruel>	see loadBuilderConfig(c)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:18:47] <maruel>	in http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/WebKitTools/BuildSlaveSupport/build.webkit.org-config/master.cfg[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:10] <maruel>	I prefer python file to json though, easier to hand edit[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:27] <catlee>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:50] <maruel>	here's how we define our slaves:[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:52] <maruel>	http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/tools/buildbot/master.tryserver/slaves.cfg?view=markup[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:54] <catlee>	http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/tip/mozilla2/config.py[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:19:56] <maruel>	we do one per master[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:21:04] <maruel>	"commit"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:21:28] <bhearsum>	who was just talking?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:21:44] <maruel>	yay for split[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:21:57] <bear>	would love to have a slave that doesn't require twisted[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:22:19] <maruel>	catlee: your config.py file could be a bit more declarative[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:22:43] <exarkun>	oh my skype ran out of dollars right at "berkeley"[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:00] <exarkun>	But I know the answer anyway, berkeley db is crap, never use it for anything[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:04] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:20] <catlee>	yes, I've had nothing but problems with berkeley db[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:33] <maruel>	bigtable works fine :D[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:42] <bear>	bdb python bindings are horrible[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:23:59] <catlee>	maruel: can we all get access to bigtable?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:16] <exarkun>	bear: or possibly worse than that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:21] <maruel>	yes, with hadoop :P[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:29] <maruel>	(or GAE)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:37] <bhearsum>	who's talking now?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:38] <bear>	exarkun - I was being polite[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:41] <exarkun>	also, now that oracle owns it, it's probably doubly worth avoiding[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:50] <bhearsum>	is that Brian?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:24:59] <rhelmer>	bhearsum: warner is holding the mike[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:25:04] <bhearsum>	ah, ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:25:15] <rhelmer>	bhearsum: yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:25:50] <catlee>	maruel: how so?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:25:55] <catlee>	(re: declarative)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:26:51] <maruel>	catlee: statements likes: BRANCHES['places']['platforms']['linux64']['update_platform'] = 'fake'[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:27:00] <maruel>	you could rewrite as a dict[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:27:14] <catlee>	ah yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:27:18] <catlee>	it is a dict[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:27:42] <maruel>	I wonder if you guys should use gtalk conference or if it'd fail horribly[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:27:52] <maruel>	catlee: I know but you use statements instead of declarations[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:28:29] <catlee>	maruel: yeah, I forget why....[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:28:54] <mozPike>	catlee: probably started small and then copy'n'paste[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:29:28] <catlee>	+1 to warner[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:29:55] <maruel>	beta, I know that![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:30:07] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:09] <maruel>	only if we could kill child processes on windows with twisted... :D[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:18] <joduinn-mac>	+1 to what warner said[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:19] <catlee>	we have a patch for that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:36] <catlee>	maruel: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/catlee_mozilla.com/twisted/rev/510653655551[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:37] 	 * joduinn-mac not shy about 0.8.2, 0.8.3, etc.... [Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:31:38] <bhearsum>	that was me, btw[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:01] <catlee>	I think that's the one...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:14] <maruel>	catlee: we can't use that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:19] <exarkun>	release early, release often, release regularly[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:31] <bhearsum>	+1 to that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:37] <exarkun>	nooo don't wait for "almost done" features[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:46] <exarkun>	there's always another "almost done" feature[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:32:48] <bhearsum>	i think that's alright, within limits[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:12] <catlee>	that just means using git branches more[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:14] <exarkun>	just pick an interval and release on it[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:14] <bhearsum>	yeah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:15] <maruel>	if you'd have waited for json and status push to be stable, you'd wait for years :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:23] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:32] <exarkun>	if you have regular releases, it's not all that scary to have your feature miss a release[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:36] <exarkun>	because you know there's another one coming[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:40] <bhearsum>	that's very true.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:33:50] <bhearsum>	that model has worked well for Firefox Alphas/Betas[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:22] <maruel>	but then you start having feature branches, which isn't fun either[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:27] <bhearsum>	why not?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:35] <bhearsum>	feature branches are great IMHO[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:40] <bhearsum>	it keeps your trunk stable[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:44] <maruel>	ok, we don't use them[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:47] <bhearsum>	we could![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:54] <maruel>	s/we/chromium/[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:34:56] <bhearsum>	oh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:08] <exarkun>	I agree that feature branches are great[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:21] <bear>	oh crap - i've been unmasked![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:22] <exarkun>	They might not necessarily be great for *every* project, but I'm pretty sure they'd be great for buildbot[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:27] 	 * bear hides his secret PR cape and mask[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:43] <bhearsum>	exarkun: heh, twisted has one per bug, don't they? :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:56] <exarkun>	something like that[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:35:58] 	 * bhearsum volunteered for releases, not windows![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:36:11] <exarkun>	sometimes there's just a patch, if it's developed by someone without svn access[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:36:26] <exarkun>	and sometimes there's 6 branches for one bug, because svn's not very good at merging.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:36:30] 	 * joduinn-mac could never imagine bhearsum volunteering on windows !!![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:36:34] <bear>	warner - do you want me to reprise my windows help role?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:38:49] <maruel>	I just need to figure out to setup a dmz on my backup isp connection...[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:39:01] <maruel>	but if moz can give a few, it's fine too :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:17] <bhearsum>	joduinn doing his best to make everyone jealous[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:23] <catlee>	foooood[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:27] <catlee>	put it up on camera[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:33] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:44] <rhelmer>	heh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:40:53] <rhelmer>	i think i can get one into a scanner[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:02] <unpaidbill>	is this a public viewing?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:04] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:28] Salir	asasaki ha dejado este servidor (Quit: leaving).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:30] <maruel>	it could have been worse and used chrome[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:37] <catlee>	seriously![Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:41:38] <catlee>	jeesh[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:42:35] <bhearsum>	lol[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:43:39] Salir	bear ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 276 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:44:27] <bhearsum>	djmitche: i'd love to get a braindump of "what happens for a release" sometime[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:45:23] Salir	rhelmer ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 265 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:48:00] Unirse	bear se ha unido a este canal (~bear@c-71-230-97-250.hsd1.pa.comcast.net).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:53:32] <maruel>	maybe in a year I could host in mtv (and be there this time)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [17:55:04] <maruel>	(I assume everyone is eating now)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:01:06] <mozPike>	I'm done eating ;-)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:01:14] <catlee>	we're going to eat soon :)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:06:47] <maruel>	catlee: I think I'll upstream some parts of my slaves.py script[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:06:54] <maruel>	along with something similar used by webkit[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:07:12] <catlee>	maruel: cool[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:07:22] <catlee>	maruel: I didn't really see what they were doing[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:07:27] <maruel>	I don't know how it would fit  your setup[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:07:38] <maruel>	(probably not at all)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:07:47] <maruel>	is there anything extractable on your side?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:12:23] <catlee>	in what ways?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:15:49] <maruel>	the code that parses the BRANCHES dict[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:16:18] <catlee>	that's big and ugly[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:16:35] <catlee>	very specific to what we're doing[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:17:04] <maruel>	ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:17:06] <catlee>	http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbotcustom/file/tip/misc.py#l323[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:17:59] <catlee>	http://hg.mozilla.org/build/buildbot-configs/file/daec2af2f26b/mozilla2/master1.cfg#l20[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:19:12] <maruel>	ok[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:20:31] Salir	Rail ha dejado este servidor (Quit: 0.3.1.1).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:23:12] <catlee>	mozPike: for ticket #809, are you saying that you want the scheduler to create a 'locale' property on the request which includes one or more of the 'locale's from the changes?[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:25:34] Salir	armenzg ha dejado este servidor (Quit: armenzg).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:32:11] <mozPike>	catlee: or overwrite, yeah. Like, for the weave setup, we'll get changes with 'locale' being set to 'en-US', for which I want to build all locales, setting the locale in question in the build request in the scheduler[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:32:52] <catlee>	ah[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:45:00] <catlee>	mozPike: yeah, if the change properties couldn't override the request properties, or maybe if they were just applied in the other order, that would make sense[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:48:47] 	 * warner gets back to his desk[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:49:16] <warner>	bear: yeah, if you've got the bandwidth to get involved in windows+buildbot work, that'd be awesome[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [18:54:23] <bear>	warner - cool[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [19:13:44] Salir	chrisp ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 252 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [19:42:28] Salir	AmineKhaldi_ ha dejado este servidor (Ping timeout: 246 seconds).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [20:39:37] Unirse	Se ha unido al canal #buildbot (~nicolas@synecdoche/developer/povaddict).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [20:39:37] Tema	El tema del canal es «Buildbot-0.7.12 | docs: http://djmitche.github.com/buildbot/docs/0.7.12/ | buildbot.net».[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [20:39:37] Tema	El tema fue establecido por djmitche!~dustin@99.89.149.20 en 2010-02-01 20:23.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [20:40:33] Modo	Modos del canal: +nst[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [20:40:34] Creado	Este canal fue creado el 2010-01-30 04:48.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:00:40] Unirse	Se ha unido al canal #buildbot (~nicolas@synecdoche/developer/povaddict).[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:00:40] Tema	El tema del canal es «Buildbot-0.7.12 | docs: http://djmitche.github.com/buildbot/docs/0.7.12/ | buildbot.net».[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:00:40] Tema	El tema fue establecido por djmitche!~dustin@99.89.149.20 en 2010-02-01 20:23.[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:01:17] <djmitche>	anyone have today's IRC logs as a text file they can send me really easily? (and I do mean *really*)[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:01:38] Modo	Modos del canal: +nst[Jueves 29 Abril 2010] [21:01:38] Creado	Este canal fue creado el 2010-01-30 04:48.