Session Start: Sun Dec 27 18:10:56 2009
Session Ident: #grudge
03[18:10] * Now talking in #grudge
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01[18:11] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Hello gentlemen
[18:12] <@Vespassianus> hey Pops
[18:12] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> LSF
[18:12] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ill contact them
[18:12] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> they hold a MDoAP with us
[18:13] <@moshea> Fuhrer[NATO] : CDT is altogether on this yeah?
[18:13] <&Clash[FEAR]> we've got confirmation from half
[18:13] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> yes
[18:13] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i mean yes to clash
01[18:13] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We're still waiting for people to wake up from CDT
[18:13] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> we got confirmation
01[18:13] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> but so far, UCN, WP, FEAR, NATO is in for sure
[18:14] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ya but were laying out the plan and its lookin good
[18:14] <@moshea> yee spoken with invicta?
[18:14] <@DarkFox[UCN]> yes
[18:14] <&Clash[FEAR]> theyll come in on baps or upns entry
[18:14] <&Clash[FEAR]> or confirmation that UPN will declare with us
[18:15] <&Clash[FEAR]> since UPN/FEAR have a seperate chaining treaty, MDoAP
[18:15] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> <Warbuck[ADI]> ADI is going in on RoK's side
[18:15] <@DarkFox[UCN]> disappointing
[18:15] <&Clash[FEAR]> yea
[18:15] <&Clash[FEAR]> i dont think he knew FEAR/TPF had a treaty
[18:15] <@DarkFox[UCN]> i didnt know it was a MADP
[18:16] <Shahenshah[IRON]> Gotta work on CiT
[18:17] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> deff
01[18:17] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Do we have any word from Frostbite?
[18:17] <Shahenshah[IRON]> TOOL and IRON has links to them, anyone else?
[18:17] <Shahenshah[IRON]> They'll defend thier alles if they're attacked
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[18:17] <Shahenshah[IRON]> They indicated they'd be willing to resolve this
[18:18] <@Vespassianus> meh FB
[18:18] <&Clash[FEAR]> UPN/USN are tied to polar
[18:19] <&Clash[FEAR]> if they come in with us quickly, maybe force nuetrality on polar
[18:19] <@Vespassianus> but UPN tied to us too
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01[18:20] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> uh
01[18:20] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> someone has to give him access
[18:20] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> Poor Haf.
[18:20] <&Clash[FEAR]> hes got it now
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[18:21] <@Haf> woot, access list
[18:21] <@moshea> Who let him in ... ;)
[18:21] <@moshea> :D
[18:21] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> so whats the deal
[18:23] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i told TFD
[18:23] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> gave them the heads up
[18:23] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> im off to LSF forums
[18:26] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ok check marked LSF
[18:27] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> talking to MHA
[18:27] <@gantanX> i'll see what i can do with WAPA we're about to announce our MDP :P
[18:27] <Shahenshah[IRON]> surprise me :)
01[18:28] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I'd just prefer you get them to our side thanks
[18:28] <@gantanX> i'll try
[18:29] <@Vespassianus> SF+C&G will be a good match
[18:30] <@Vespassianus> but fighing against them will be pleasure
[18:31] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> very fun
[18:31] <@DarkFox[UCN]> I will talk to GLOF in the morning.
[18:32] <Shahenshah[IRON]> FB will come
[18:32] <@Vespassianus> which side?
[18:32] <@Vespassianus> (ok it was naive)
[18:32] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> im waiting on MHA
[18:32] <~Desperado`> ok, working on all the shit to counter.
[18:32] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> we have a MDP with them
[18:33] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> <Jadoo1989[MHA]> we're taking a moderate stance for now
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01[18:39] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> So
01[18:39] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Desperado
[18:39] <~Desperado`> sup
01[18:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> do we have any semblence of a plan?
[18:40] <~Desperado`> working on it as we speak
[18:40] <~Desperado`> gonna try and work with FB
01[18:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> okay
[18:40] <&mhawk> First we release our response on owf
[18:40] <~Desperado`> if we get FB, I assume the numbers will be on our side
[18:40] <&mhawk> then we prepare our defense
[18:41] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> awesome
[18:41] <@Haf> If FB came to our defense, then we would indeed have numbers.
[18:41] <@Haf> The chances of that strike me as Very Slim.
[18:41] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I think thats unrealistic
[18:42] <@Haf> Neutral would be pretty awesome tho.
[18:42] <@Vespassianus> yeah
[18:42] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> the best bet is we talk to them and see how they can be kept out
[18:42] <@gantanX> i dont think we'll get FB on our side, dont mean to be pesimistic, but they have an MDP with MK
[18:42] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> a scary MDP at that
[18:42] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> :P
[18:42] <@Haf> Well, NpO and STA do.
[18:42] <@Vespassianus> and tons of others treaty with C&G
[18:42] <@gantanX> lol
[18:43] <@gantanX> i knew i t
[18:43] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> NSO seems itching to fight it out.
[18:43] <@gantanX> i should approve NSO's MDP few days ago
[18:43] <@gantanX> :P
[18:43] <@Vespassianus> :D
[18:43] <&Clash[FEAR]> and FB knew about this before us, so im betting theyre working with the other side
[18:43] <&Clash[FEAR]> at least communicating about this
[18:43] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> they deff did
[18:43] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> 100pct ahd to
[18:43] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> had*
[18:44] <@Vespassianus> RIA-NSO thing was just a trap?
[18:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> who knows these days
[18:44] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I don't know about FB, but NSO is the type to work both sides of the fence until it becomes clear which side will make the best allies
[18:45] <@Vespassianus> =NSO wanna bandwagon
[18:45] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> weres MCXA?
[18:45] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> there tied to TPF
[18:45] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> cant fidn them
01[18:45] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Can we get some Google Docs up?
01[18:46] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We should start target listing
[18:46] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> we gunna amtch this up right?
[18:46] <@Haf> RIA-NSO thing was Delta not being filled in.
01[18:52] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Does anyone konw what TOOL is doing?
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[18:52] <&Clash[FEAR]> no TOOL gov is on atm
[18:52] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> can someone add Shan_Revan
[18:52] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> im pro with IRC.
[18:52] <&Clash[FEAR]> but R3nowned says they will most likely come in
[18:53] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> TOOL will most likely come
[18:53] <&Clash[FEAR]> shan is added
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[18:57] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lets get m disbanded :D lol
[18:58] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> :P
[18:58] <@Haf> We should all DoW on \m/
[18:58] <@Haf> heh
[18:58] <@DarkFox[UCN]> I am sure they can handle it
[18:58] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> :) would be nice
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[18:59] <@Haf> lol
[18:59] <@Haf> MOSH ADD THEM TO THE ACCESS LIST
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[18:59] <&Pansy> he is drunk
[19:00] <@moshea> pah .. but still awake! give me a break!
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[19:04] <@gantanX> ok guys, i am off for tonight
[19:04] <@gantanX> just wanted to let you know that NEW is with TPF on this :)
[19:04] <@gantanX> happy holiday everyone
[19:04] <@Vespassianus> the one thing that i can't understand that why we didn't know that they are preparing to go war?
[19:04] <@Vespassianus> bye Gantan
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[19:06] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> caught way off on this
[19:06] <@Vespassianus> before Karma we knew that it comes
[19:06] <@Vespassianus> but not now
[19:07] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Doesnt matter now.
[19:07] <@Vespassianus> yeah
[19:08] <@Vespassianus> damn i must sell my land if i wanna kick some ass
[19:09] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> any updates?
[19:11] <&Pansy> I just got coffee Fuhrer[NATO]
[19:11] <&Pansy> consider yourself updated
[19:11] <&Pansy> :D
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> We need to be kicking up a shitstorm on the forums over this.
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> 1) No seriously incriminating evidence
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> 2) These occured when TPF was in a war, and one that appeared would extend for a very long time.
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> 3) Was it ever acted upon? If so, ever during peace? Either way we should deny that shit
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> 4) Disgruntled former allies release it months later
[19:12] <@Shan_Revan> 5) Obvious lame excuse, a la Continuum curbstomps
[19:12] <&Pansy> we need TPF to give us an official position to work from though shan
[19:13] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> oh god coffee, yes, that thread is rough
[19:14] <@Haf> yah, Shan
[19:14] <~Desperado`> no, they bailed before we peaced
[19:14] <~Desperado`> and also didnt have the balls to tell mhawk they were leaving
[19:14] <&mhawk> they bailed over an ooc incident
[19:14] <~Desperado`> also
[19:15] <~Desperado`> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tvsPML5r0U2i4NVm6QqV4-w&hl=en#
[19:15] <@NobodyExpects2> lol we have more WRCs then Athens
[19:16] <@Haf> well, Athens _did_ merge with DE
[19:23] <@Vespassianus> DE, come on?
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[19:23] <&Clash[away]> be back in the morning :P
[19:25] <~Desperado`> working on the spreadsheet now.
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[19:28] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> projected against: SF and CnG + thier perihperals for 'SURE'
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[19:31] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lol
[19:31] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i told him i had to give access fisrt
[19:31] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> but it says permission denied
[19:31] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> someone wanna hook it up
[19:31] <&Clash[away]> added
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[19:32] <@wentworth[NATO]> Hey ladies and gents
[19:33] <@NobodyExpects2> Hey wentworth[NATO]
[19:34] <@Vespassianus> hey
[19:34] <&Pansy> sup wenters
[19:34] <@wentworth[NATO]> Not much pansy, back on the right side of the fence :P
[19:34] <&Pansy> there is a fence?
[19:34] <&Pansy> damn why wasnt I informed
[19:35] <@wentworth[NATO]> lol, a line in the sand maybe?
[19:35] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> Howdy wentworth
[19:36] <@wentworth[NATO]> is this where we plan to fuck people up?
[19:37] <@Vespassianus> aye
[19:37] <@Vespassianus> but we need some coffee/tea/energey drink before that
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01[19:37] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Suck it Americans
01[19:37] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> my time zone > yours
[19:37] <@wentworth[NATO]> lol, 330 am here and i am wide awake
[19:38] <@Vespassianus> it's 10:37 am for me
01[19:38] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> 7:38 pm for me
[19:38] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> whats the time in uk
[19:38] <@Vespassianus> 9:38 for UK
[19:38] <@Vespassianus> am
[19:39] <@Shan_Revan> [19:37] <Popsumpot[UCN]> Suck it Americans
[19:39] <@Shan_Revan> [19:37] <Popsumpot[UCN]> my time zone > yours
[19:39] <@Shan_Revan> Australia, you all lose.
[19:39] <&Pansy> yeah 930 am and all is sucky
01[19:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Australia is the greatest *cough* island *cough* nation known to man
[19:40] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Pakistan 8-) 2:40 pm, im up all day now ;p and cover all the time zones
[19:40] <@Shan_Revan> hey UK guys, if I add +44 onto the beginning of a cell number, will that work, or do I need to take off the first digit?
[19:40] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> the 0 before 7
[19:40] <@NobodyExpects2> drop the 0
01[19:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> 1st of all
01[19:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Why are you calling a Pom?
[19:41] <@Shan_Revan> ta
[19:41] <@NobodyExpects2> + 44 (drop zero) rest of num
[19:41] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lets wake up that bastard
[19:41] <@Vespassianus> lol
[19:41] <@NobodyExpects2> Popsumpot[UCN]: Ireland is the greatest Island known to man, now more along :p
[19:41] <@Shan_Revan> messaging mcrabt
01[19:41] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Pfft
01[19:42] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Ireland is sunk in beer
[19:42] <@Shan_Revan> he's scottish.
[19:42] <@Shan_Revan> oh responding to that heh.
[19:42] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> got his voicemail
[19:43] <@Shan_Revan> I'm sending a text not a call :P
[19:43] <@Shan_Revan> cheaper!
[19:43] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> fk u
[19:43] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lol
[19:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i texted a few NATO members
[19:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> but all passed out
[19:44] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> As did I
[19:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> its 5am here
[19:44] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> Yea
[19:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lol
[19:44] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> doing a grave yard shift
01[19:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We can expect to
01[19:45] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> be at war with SF + C&G*
01[19:45] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Should we start some google docs and get them into lists?
[19:46] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We can avoid hitting FB direct treaty parnters atm
[19:46] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> bah, tbh it makes no difference
[19:46] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lets get the docs up
[19:47] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> with all the confirmed "allies"
[19:47] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> i think we can still bring in more
[19:47] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> do some matching up aswell
[19:47] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> we can
01[19:47] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I hardly think Chestnut is going to stay out
[19:47] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> if we get cit were golden
[19:47] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> ppl are zz
[19:47] <&Pansy> 1) we cant rely on Cit
[19:48] <&Pansy> 2) the odds will still be against us even with cit
[19:48] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> the odds will be agasint us no matter
[19:48] <&Pansy> pretty sure this is engineered to either pull cit in, or to eliminate Cit allies
[19:48] <@Vespassianus> aye
01[19:48] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> This has "deliberate" written all over it
01[19:49] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> looks like they pulled it from a folder labled "Possible CB"
[19:49] <&Pansy> NSO are pissed, but I very much doubt we can pull FB onto ourside
[19:49] <@Vespassianus> damn, they planned it well
[19:50] <@Vespassianus> i have bets that these DoWs were no surprise for FB...
01[19:50] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> FB has more treaties tied to the other side then to us
[19:50] <@Shan_Revan> from what I can gather, FB doesn't really want to support this war but will follow their treaties if they have to
[19:50] <@Shan_Revan> they got a little bit of notice but not much better than we got it seems
01[19:50] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Best we can hope is for FB to stay neutral
[19:50] <@Shan_Revan> I expect polar will end up involved at least
[19:50] <&Pansy> FB does have dislike for Athens
[19:50] <@wentworth[NATO]> If it helps, while I was at NSO, there were alot of talks of a future split to get out of FB
[19:50] <@Shan_Revan> due to their ties to rok and mk
[19:51] <@wentworth[NATO]> and Grub does hate Athens
[19:51] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ^
[19:51] <&Pansy> also NSO dislike SF
01[19:51] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> well
[19:51] <@wentworth[NATO]> very much so
01[19:51] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Polar has a MDoAP with USN and UPN
[19:51] <@Vespassianus> too many FB-C&G treaties to get them on our side
[19:52] <&Pansy> yep,
01[19:52] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We could try get them to be neutral through them
[19:52] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> that would be awesome
[19:52] <@Vespassianus> if they stay neutral Cit more likely to come to us
[19:52] <&Pansy> I am pretty sure ODN will try and make UPN go neutral also
01[19:52] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> ODN is definitly trying
01[19:52] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> but UPN lies directly with Alt
01[19:52] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Altheus*
[19:53] <@wentworth[NATO]> If FB does not roll together, I dont see NSO ever defending CnG. They hate most all of them except LOST
[19:53] <&Pansy> not sure how that will be possible with the Invicta ties
[19:53] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> wen will e start the defense?
01[19:53] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I have my money on UPN entry
[19:53] <~Desperado`> a bunch of NSO are pissed, especially gov
01[19:53] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> well
[19:53] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> the best bet is to see if FB can stay neutral
[19:53] <@Vespassianus> UPN+UCN+FEAR fought so many times together
01[19:53] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> if ODN can delay UPN until UPN enters late
[19:53] <@Haf> Invicta and UPN need to wait for Jor and Alt to get online to have official positions.
[19:53] <@Vespassianus> i trust UPN
01[19:53] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Polar won't have the uPN and USN treaties in their way
[19:53] <@Haf> But I'll be heavily ticked if they don't side with us.
[19:54] <@Vespassianus> aye
01[19:54] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> The question is timing
[19:54] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I beleive you were with them during the STA conflict
[19:54] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> so you s hould try
[19:54] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> if not with us, then not against us
01[19:54] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> if UPN and USN enters before Polar
[19:54] <@wentworth[NATO]> If we can get FB neutralized, it is possible to have NSO enter on their Moldavi Doctrine. IRON maybe can help with that, I know NSO likes some IRON
01[19:54] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> that could give POlar excuse to stay neutral
[19:55] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Moldavi doctrine would mean pissing on entire FB, if FB stays neutral, perhaps it can be worth asking that.
[19:55] <&Pansy> nso likes some TPF too
[19:55] <@wentworth[NATO]> yes they do, strongly
[19:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> but still, there are treaties to be honoured
01[19:56] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I don't htink we can ask NSO to enter
01[19:56] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> the best we can hope for is FB's neutrality
[19:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I agree.
[19:56] <@Vespassianus> yeah
01[19:56] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> If NSO trys to get FB to be neutral
01[19:56] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> and we leverage NpO through UPN and USN's treaties
[19:56] <@wentworth[NATO]> That sounds like the best bet
01[19:56] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> we have a good shot at it
[19:57] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lets go for that for sure
[19:57] <@Vespassianus> STA has too many C&G treaty altough
[19:57] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Aye, first we need UPN and USN's confirmation.
01[19:57] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> but even if so
01[19:57] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> STA's entry by themselves is better than FB
01[19:57] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I would think Polar doesn't really want to enter
[19:57] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Haf, I beleive Invicta has good rapport with FB?
01[19:57] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> we just need to provide them with enough excuses to not do so
[19:58] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> STA is entering?
[19:58] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We're still awaiting TPF's reply to the allegations to rally around.
[19:59] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We also need to setup a PR team, cant allow PR walkover, Learned my lessons in Q :)
[19:59] <@Haf> Shahenshah[IRON], NSO kinda likes us
[19:59] <@Haf> rest of Frostbite is fairly hostile
[19:59] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> oh
[19:59] <@Vespassianus> i talked with an STA guy, they are waiting now, only NpO-RoK treaty the way that they can enter now
[19:59] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> if NpO enters, FB enters
[19:59] <~Desperado`> mhawk is working on the post, im finding stuff
[19:59] <~Desperado`> lots of busy work
01[19:59] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> okay
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> well
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> with regards to FB
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> we need to wait on UPN and USN
[20:00] <~Desperado`> sorry if it seems like we are dead
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> What about the CiT front?
[20:00] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> take your time, do it right rahtehr than being hurried up
[20:00] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> CiT front is unclear atm.
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> what's IRON's treaty with TOP again?
01[20:00] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> MDP?
[20:01] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> MDoAP, non-chaining unless IRON is directly attacked
[20:01] <@Haf> if Citadel don't defend you guys, we probably all get hung out to dry
[20:01] <@Vespassianus> aye
[20:01] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I agree
[20:02] <@Vespassianus> if TOOL comes Arg-TOOL can help
01[20:02] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Do we have any other treaties?
[20:02] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> we have treaty pending signatures with Argent.
01[20:02] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> so all we have is the MHA-NATO, IRON-TOP, and TOOL-Arg?
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> MHA
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> is being neutral
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i tried
[20:03] <@wentworth[NATO]> MHA said they are investigating or whatever you want to call it
01[20:03] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Do we know if the MHA and TOP neutrality is due to their top govt being asleep, or is it a final stance?
[20:03] <@Vespassianus> ...
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> and i seen jadoo going into a private room with rok and adi
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> !
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ...
[20:03] <@Haf> Jadoo is a triumvir.
[20:03] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> its wait and see for TOP.
01[20:03] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Can we talk to MHA?
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i did
[20:03] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> and it got no were
01[20:03] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Okay
[20:04] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I thought ADI was NATO's BFF?
[20:04] <@Vespassianus> looks like they wait for Cit too
[20:04] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> then adi invited mha to a private chat with rok and adi
01[20:04] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> well, we need to try again after TPF's post is out
[20:04] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> me to
[20:04] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> adi will honor rok
[20:04] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> not us not fear
[20:04] <@wentworth[NATO]> So ADI's treaty with us is worthless
[20:04] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> RoK was their first big treaty
01[20:04] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> sigh
[20:04] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> We knew they'd always go with RoK
[20:04] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> <shrugs>
[20:04] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> War helps distinguish real freinds from imposters :)
[20:04] <@Vespassianus> ADI will ignore FEAR MDoAP :(
[20:04] <@wentworth[NATO]> to the chopping block!
[20:05] <@Vespassianus> :D
[20:05] <&Pansy> show me the casualties
[20:05] <&Pansy> SHOW ME THE CASUALTIES!
[20:05] <@Vespassianus> well at least there is less panic then in Karma war
01[20:06] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We still haven't accomplished much
[20:06] <@Vespassianus> i want another million casualities at least
[20:06] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We should call it Karma Part 2
[20:06] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> because that IS what it IS.
01[20:06] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> We should call it
[20:06] <&Pansy> nah Continuum version 2.0
01[20:06] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> noCB war
01[20:07] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> oh wai...
[20:07] <@Vespassianus> Unjust war? oh no it's reserved
[20:07] <@Shan_Revan> Talking to polar too
01[20:08] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Have anyone heard from The Legion?
[20:08] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> who wants to talk to MHA
[20:08] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i can
[20:08] <@Shan_Revan> I've been hinted at possible mediation or something from them but nothing official.
01[20:08] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> If MHA isn't listening to you Fuhrer
01[20:08] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> there isn't any point talking to them until TPF posts their reply
[20:09] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> thats what i mean
[20:09] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> ill talk then
[20:09] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> if we can bring Valhalla and if they can bring Kronos
[20:09] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> then we have even more ties to Cit
01[20:09] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> I don't know
[20:09] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Legion is zz
01[20:09] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> that's an awful alot of chaining
[20:09] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> We have MDoAP with Valhalla too
[20:10] <&Pansy> Valhalla will be in with BAPS and olympus
[20:10] <&Pansy> if they dont I will be couping chefjoe FACT
[20:10] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> my personal thought is they'll be with us 101%
[20:10] <@Vespassianus> and i think Legion won't let us behind the lines
[20:10] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Yes, that would be correct
01[20:10] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> okay
[20:11] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We, TOOL, Kronos could talk with TOP
01[20:11] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> so it looks like Purple and CDT is pretty certain
[20:11] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Alot depends upon TPF's reply
01[20:11] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> This entire room needs to patrol that thread
[20:11] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> We're talking with Echelon and GGA too :)
[20:11] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I do not have much material to troll with atm :p
[20:12] <&mhawk> first part so far
[20:12] <&mhawk> First I must state the timing of this war is quite unfortunate. (ooc I will be leaving across the country for the next two weeks starting early the 29th) I do feel there is quite a bit of explaining to do in regards to the context and what posted by Athens and Rok.
[20:12] <&mhawk> I will make the following clear.
[20:12] <&mhawk> 1)I had no contact with Zero Hour after roughly the 18th of July. This can be demonstrated by a very strong OOC fall out between the members of Zero Hour and myself. This fall out I believe is the reason there is such anamosity between specifically myself and ZH. TPF nor myself had any command and control of Zero Hour, nor did we receive any intel aside from they were talking to Athens about the
[20:12] <&mhawk> ir protectorate. I have some evidence demonstrating this, however is is quite hard to disprove a negative.
[20:12] <&mhawk> 2)
[20:12] <@Haf> mhawk, did you have any advance warning of the war?
[20:12] <&mhawk> no
[20:13] <@Haf> [05:10] <angryraccoon|athens> yeah it would had been different if opsec wasnt screwed and mhawk didnt know what was happening
[20:13] <@Haf> [05:11] <angryraccoon|athens> he jumped to peacemode and we had to attack tonight
[20:13] <@Haf> [05:11] <angryraccoon|athens> so Athens did not have all nations active to go
[20:13] <&mhawk> I was told about hour before
[20:13] <~Desperado`> there is a message that we saw, they already had planned this for the exact day.
[20:14] <@Haf> apparently ZH contacted Athens on Christmas Day
[20:14] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> we knew around hour or so before update
[20:15] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> i got texted
[20:15] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> and found out
[20:15] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lol
[20:15] <@Shan_Revan> Yeah I heard about it and found mhawk asap and told him
[20:16] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> good
[20:16] <@Haf> right
[20:16] <@Haf> continue mhawk
[20:17] <&Pansy> he is on the phone
[20:17] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> TORN is in :)
[20:17] <@Vespassianus> cool
[20:17] <&Pansy> with us?
[20:17] <@Haf> what's left of them :/
[20:17] <@Vespassianus> they have some warriors with real warchests
[20:17] <&Pansy> expect surrender in 3 2 1
[20:17] <&Pansy> :p
[20:17] <@wentworth[NATO]> lol
[20:17] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> lmao
[20:17] <&Pansy> sorry i had to
[20:18] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> not cool :P
[20:18] <@Shan_Revan> Torn is with us if IRON or Val gets hit
[20:18] <@Haf> it has some historical justification tho Shah
[20:18] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> You can count on Zenith. Though we're pretty much tits up.
[20:18] <@Vespassianus> i poke bigwooday about the FEAR-TORN MDoAP :D
[20:18] <@Shan_Revan> Well to be fair, we did tell them to surrender :P
[20:18] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> It has, but lets have that on another tea party :)
[20:18] <&mhawk> this is highly ooc
[20:18] <@Shan_Revan> and then changed our minds
[20:19] <&mhawk> so athens was contacted on christmas day?
[20:19] <&Pansy> any of you guys want in on skype?
[20:19] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> Oh it is entirely too early or too late for me to be on Skype.
[20:19] <~Desperado`> mhawk is only scraping the ooc surface
[20:19] <&Pansy> :O
[20:19] <~Desperado`> its gonna blow and im gonna need a new nick to hide under :P
[20:20] <@Haf> I think so, mhawk
[20:20] <&Pansy> NATO has skype
[20:20] <&mhawk> oh man
[20:20] <&Pansy> how NATO has changed
[20:20] <@Shan_Revan> skype me
[20:20] <&mhawk> ayrrie demanded I speak with her on the 24th
[20:20] <&mhawk> to apologize ooc
[20:20] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> No, I personally have Skype... :P
[20:20] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> ffs 64k, put me in, but no voice
[20:20] <@wentworth[NATO]> I dont :(
[20:20] <&mhawk> I told her she fucked up
[20:21] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> im out for now
[20:21] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> leave a query if need to
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[20:23] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I only talk to strange women on skype, I don't think you all qualify.
[20:23] <&Pansy> no we dont
[20:23] <@Vespassianus> :D
[20:24] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I might go for strange men, but only if you pitch your voice up really high
[20:25] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I kid, I kid. I've never even been on the damn thing.
[20:25] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> :P
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[20:28] <@Fuhrer[NATO]> back i lied
[20:33] <&Pansy> Kum bay ya, mhawk, kum bay ya;
[20:33] <&Pansy> Kum bay ya,mhawk, kum bay ya;
[20:33] <&Pansy> Kum bay ya, mhawk, kum bay ya,
[20:33] <&Pansy> O mhawk, roll the hard six.
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[20:36] <&Pansy> Someone's attacking, mhawk, kum bay ya;
[20:36] <&Pansy> Someone's attacking, mhawk, kum bay ya;
[20:36] <&Pansy> Someone's attacking, mhawk, kum bay ya,
[20:36] <&Pansy> O mhawk, nuke them back.
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[20:37] <~Desperado`> mhawk is in peace mode
[20:37] <~Desperado`> :P
[20:37] <@TheAUT> ofc
[20:37] <@Haf> he's such a hippie
[20:37] <&Pansy> let me just edit the chefjoe grievence
[20:37] <@Haf> never ever fights
[20:37] <@TheAUT> I'm always fighting his damn wars
[20:37] <@Haf> lol
[20:37] <@wentworth[NATO]> AUT, good to see you
[20:37] <&Pansy> http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo61/ThePansy/chef.jpg
[20:37] <&Pansy> :D
[20:38] <@TheAUT> Thanks went, likewise
[20:38] <@Haf> "grow a set" not "grew a set"
[20:38] <@TheAUT> So yeah, I got word from Peace and Love
[20:38] <@TheAUT> They plan on entering
[20:38] <@Haf> british degenerate
[20:38] <@Haf> :P
[20:38] <&Pansy> haf I know
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[20:39] <~Desp`[PlanetBobsMostWanted]> I officially made the list
[20:39] <~Desp`[PlanetBobsMostWanted]> boo yah
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[20:39] <@Vespassianus> lolpink
[20:40] <&Pansy> lolpurple
[20:40] <&Pansy> oh shit....
[20:40] <@NobodyExpects2> :O
03[20:40] * Desp`[PlanetBobsMostWanted] is now known as Desperado`
[20:40] <&Pansy> sorry got carried away
[20:40] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> lol, Pansy, that's funny
[20:41] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lol
[20:41] <&Pansy> The Athenians hunger
[20:41] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Expanding the Athenian Paradigm
[20:41] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> My nations can cover bottom tear
[20:41] <@Vespassianus> tears for fears
[20:41] <&Pansy> my nation can cower in peacemode.... is that an option?
[20:42] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> It's the only option for the naiton of Pansy
[20:42] <@Vespassianus> i can accept tech+money in peace mode, is it good enough?
[20:42] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Yo I'm ready to take out DrunkMonkey
[20:42] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Like tonight
[20:42] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Don't need no damn update
[20:42] <&Pansy> screw peacemode, number 1 casualties hereI come
[20:42] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I just go in and triple break off flank attack they asses
[20:43] <~Desperado`> I wholeheartedly agree
[20:43] <~Desperado`> no one will expect it
[20:43] <~Desperado`> it will leave everyone devastated
[20:43] <&Pansy> no one can defend the triple break off flank attack
[20:43] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Thats it
[20:43] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> then
[20:43] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I've discovered a law of the universe: "The smaller one's warchest is, the higher the percentage of chance that war will happen to your alliance."
[20:43] <&Pansy> but it might take us all out in its awesomeness
[20:43] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> This is officially Triple Break off Flank Attack War!
[20:44] <@Haf> hmmm
[20:44] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> whoever gets Ragnarok is lucky
[20:44] <@Haf> TPF is down 120K NS
[20:44] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> That's a nice tech raid target right there
[20:44] <@Haf> 51 anarchies
[20:44] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> I'm calling it "Kzoppistan's Law of Oh Shi-"
[20:45] <@Haf> ouch :/
[20:45] <@Vespassianus> i agree
[20:45] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> TPF wasnt expecting ti
[20:45] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> i think well played on thier end
[20:45] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> ofc not, they're led by a furry
[20:45] <@Haf> there was no quad, TPF should've had more nations with max soldiers
[20:46] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> anarchy doesnt matter tbh
[20:46] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> You guys make sure this chan is protected?
[20:46] <@Haf> 1/3 in anarchy without a quad is much too high
[20:46] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Don't need people whoising us
[20:46] <@Haf> Shahenshah[IRON], it matters on day 1
[20:46] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> it is +s
[20:46] <@Haf> those 51 nations can't DoW
[20:46] <@Vespassianus> not TPF will decide this war...
[20:46] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> any word from Citadel?
[20:47] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I wouldnt think TPF should be DoWing atm, yes Anarchy does effects, but with nukes, its not like it used to be
[20:47] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> they'll likely pull a bitch move and declare on us
[20:47] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> they're wait and see at Top speed.
[20:48] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> I think, IRON, TOOL and if Val can convince Kronos, then Kronos, 3 of us will try to see whats the deal.
[20:48] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> We're gonna get rolled again
[20:48] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> As if once wasn't enough
[20:48] <@Vespassianus> it happens
[20:48] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> This is my 3rd
[20:48] <@Vespassianus> i blame karma
[20:49] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Karma 2.0 this.
[20:49] <@NobodyExpects2> BAPS never won a war in 4 years
[20:49] <@NobodyExpects2> ally with us at your peril
[20:49] <&Pansy> yes you have
[20:49] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> WoTC
[20:49] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> ?
[20:49] <&Pansy> No CB
[20:49] <@NobodyExpects2> Aye I guess we won that
[20:49] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I fought for polar too stupid to read that war
[20:49] <@NobodyExpects2> not much of a war mind
[20:49] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> there are 2 angles to Cit and FB
[20:50] <&Pansy> stop your bitching NE
[20:50] <&Pansy> i prefer the losing side anyhoo
[20:50] <&Pansy> more casualties
[20:50] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Teaches you to fight well
[20:50] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I pulled my most brilliant and creative tricks
[20:50] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> 1. FB could be kept neutral via UPN and UxN, even fi they do enter, I think they'll push for favourable terms, it will be PR contest with Cit.
[20:50] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> And now that I finally have nukes and an SDI, no better time to use it
[20:50] <&Pansy> yes the triple break flank attack
[20:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Possibility of FB being neut is low, but its there. There is no harm in trying
[20:51] <@Vespassianus> it worth a shot
[20:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> 2. Cit could possibly again help with the terms, but agian, if they dont enter, thats all there is to them offering any support to us.
[20:51] <@NobodyExpects2> FB will roll, Cit won't
[20:51] <@NobodyExpects2> bound to happen
[20:51] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> FB?
[20:51] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Face Book?
[20:52] <&Pansy> facebook
[20:52] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> That's a lot of nations
[20:52] <@NobodyExpects2> Frostbite
[20:52] <@Haf> Frostbite
[20:52] <~Desperado`> yes, the facebook group
[20:52] <~Desperado`> over 5 million people
[20:52] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> You know Tyga and his self-righteous ass is going to defend Athens
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[20:52] <&Pansy> STA NpO and NSO ie Facebook
[20:52] <~Desperado`> all defending us
[20:52] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> It's coming
[20:52] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> You guys are overly optimistic.. again
[20:52] <&Pansy> no we are not
[20:53] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Yes, you are.
[20:53] <&Pansy> we know we are getting rolled
[20:53] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Anyone with eyes can see it.
[20:53] <@NobodyExpects2> If you have to wonder about stuff, then you already know the answer
[20:53] <@Vespassianus> again
[20:53] <&Pansy> but there is never harm in trying to get thiws a little more even
[20:53] <@NobodyExpects2> Aye
[20:53] <~Desperado`> aut, we need a poll
[20:53] <~Desperado`> over/under 50 GRL
[20:53] <@Vespassianus> yeah
[20:53] <&Pansy> all I know is Olympus be rolling with BAPS
[20:54] <@Vespassianus> TORN will come too
[20:54] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> MCXA?
[20:54] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I want to see a ML-MK 3.0
[20:54] <@Vespassianus> :D
[20:55] <&Pansy> oh lord
[20:55] <&Pansy> not again
[20:55] <@Vespassianus> i want FEAR-ODN round 2
[20:55] <&Pansy> we all want ODN
[20:55] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> did someone mention ODN
[20:55] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I'm soooooooo attacking ODN
[20:55] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I named my nukes Karim, Abdul and Jabar
[20:55] <~Desperado`> ok, heres the plan everyone
[20:55] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> see we might loose the war, but could win atleast one battle
[20:55] <~Desperado`> if odn enters
[20:55] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> So when I launch against nations w/o SDI's I unleash
[20:55] <~Desperado`> everyone attack ODN
[20:55] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Karim Abdul Jabar
[20:55] <~Desperado`> it will be a moral victory
[20:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lol
[20:56] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Oh, better go collect now
[20:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> good i collected yesterday
[20:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> im nuke ready for 90 days of war! bring it !>
[20:56] <@Vespassianus> damn i have only 100 days of bills
[20:56] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> epeening is generally a bad idea, ok i get it.
[20:56] <@Vespassianus> :D
[20:57] <@NobodyExpects2> I have 400 days bills
[20:57] <@Vespassianus> meh i need to troll Athens a bit
[20:57] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> i got 100 mil
[20:57] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I'm going to straight damage
[20:57] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I'm going 6 on 1 again
[20:57] <&Pansy> i have a small epeen
[20:58] <&Pansy> Casualty Rank: Ranked #9 of 25,981 Nations (0.03%)
[20:58] <@NobodyExpects2> Aye you let the casulaites do the talking
[20:58] <@Vespassianus> :D
[20:58] <~Desperado`> fucking pansy
[20:58] <~Desperado`> now that is the definition of a casualty whore
[20:58] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I've more casualties than ODN's entire first page of nations
[20:59] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> u know FB can be avoided if all just hit ODN :P
[20:59] <&Pansy> Most Defending Casualties
[20:59] <&Pansy> 1) 3,604,754 Soldiers Lost - oinkoink12 of booNtherlands - Orange Team
[20:59] <&Pansy> 2) 3,583,352 Soldiers Lost - Drai of Kanto - Aqua Team
[20:59] <&Pansy> 3) 3,451,647 Soldiers Lost - The Pansy of Pansy Commune - Purple Team
[20:59] <&Pansy> hooo rahhh
[20:59] <&Pansy> number 1 here i come
[20:59] <@Vespassianus> ender was No1
[20:59] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> I'd like to see NEW hit PC
[21:00] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> we have war sigs?
[21:00] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> i have one made
[21:00] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Just for the next war in general
[21:01] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Btw I'll try and sideline IAA if I can
[21:01] <&Pansy> IAA are in
[21:01] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> And I'll also hit Starfox, I'll hit everyone
[21:01] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Pansy - I'll talk to Chimaera
[21:01] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> He knows he owes me one
[21:02] <&Pansy> trust me they are already prepped
[21:02] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> TPF, I'm sure Sulmar or Duncan King will be getting with you all as soon as they wake up. I don't have the authority to declare but I would if I could. I have to do some paperwork now but I'll leave the IRC up if you need anything. Good luck.
[21:02] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> cya Mr O
[21:02] <&Pansy> later O
[21:03] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/rr96/TheAUT/notdone.jpg
[21:03] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> That's the war sig
[21:03] <@Mr_Otingocni[Zenith]> Pansy, TheAUT, I like see all three of us in the same room, we should do it more often
[21:03] <&Pansy> likewise
[21:03] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> :)
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[21:20] <@Shan_Revan> hai
[21:21] <@TheAUT[lolthens]> Shan, you ready to par-ty!
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[21:59] <@Hiro[TSI]> sorted
[21:59] <@Hiro[TSI]> thanks
[21:59] <@Hiro[TSI]> i assume its safe to chat srsz bsnz here ?
[22:00] <@TheAUT> Yeah, but everyone's either asleep
[22:00] <@TheAUT> Or dead
[22:00] <@Hiro[TSI]> ahhh damn timezones
[22:00] <@TheAUT> I just came from Church
[22:00] <@TheAUT> Then war got declared
[22:00] <@Hiro[TSI]> yea
[22:00] <@TheAUT> So now I had to dl IRC on a friend's comp
[22:00] <@TheAUT> Not what I wanted
[22:00] <@Hiro[TSI]> i am prepping our guys
[22:01] <@TheAUT> I'm getting Karim, Abdul and Jabar ready
[22:01] <@Hiro[TSI]> just need to chat to tpfs MoW really
[22:01] <@Hiro[TSI]> i have been chatting with a few old friends
[22:02] <@Hiro[TSI]> so its RoK Athens \M/ God maybe nemesis
[22:02] <@Hiro[TSI]> possibly vanguard
[22:02] <@Hiro[TSI]> anyone else i have missed ?
[22:02] <@TheAUT> Half of CN
[22:02] <@Hiro[TSI]> lol
[22:02] <@Hiro[TSI]> so its going to chain to the fullest
[22:03] <@TheAUT> Oh yeah
[22:03] <@Hiro[TSI]> wheres mha stand
[22:03] <@TheAUT> We're going to get steamrolled
[22:03] <@TheAUT> MHA stands with Super Friends
[22:03] <@TheAUT> i.e GOD and Rok
[22:03] <@Hiro[TSI]> i have some grudges with a few ppl from there
[22:03] <@Hiro[TSI]> ill make sure to pay them my compliments
[22:04] <&Pansy> MHA is treatied to NATO
[22:04] <&Pansy> will be bad show to leave them again
[22:04] <@Hiro[TSI]> its only infra
[22:04] <&Pansy> no
[22:04] <&Pansy> its only casualties baby
[22:04] <@Hiro[TSI]> lol
[22:04] <@Hiro[TSI]> i <3 casulties
[22:04] <&Pansy> number 1 here I come
[22:04] <@Hiro[TSI]> pmsl
[22:04] <@Hiro[TSI]> im a bit gutted
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> 10 days i could of bought my WRC
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> now i wont be gettign that in a hurry
[22:05] <&Pansy> damn that sucks
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> yea
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> lol
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> bigtime
[22:05] <@TheAUT> I have my SDI and nukes
[22:05] <@TheAUT> 100 mil
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> yea
[22:05] <@TheAUT> A grudge
[22:05] <@Hiro[TSI]> sdi nukes pentagon
[22:05] <@TheAUT> Naitons saved, and lind up
[22:05] <@TheAUT> All I need
[22:06] <&Pansy> i got everything and over a billion
[22:06] <@Hiro[TSI]> lol nioce
[22:06] <&Pansy> its go time
[22:06] <@Hiro[TSI]> i have a good WC too
[22:06] <@Hiro[TSI]> im ready as ill ever be
[22:07] <@Hiro[TSI]> nothing like christmas time to bring out the blood thirsty lust
[22:07] <@TheAUT> Pansy - the logs look fairly incriminating against CnG
[22:07] <@TheAUT> Of course this won't make a difference
[22:07] <&Pansy> of course not
[22:07] <@TheAUT> But at least we can fight this war with a clean conscience
[22:07] <@Hiro[TSI]> the motion has began
[22:07] <@Hiro[TSI]> it wont be stopped now
[22:07] <&Pansy> as long as there is fighting my conscience is clear
[22:08] <@Hiro[TSI]> yes ;)
[22:08] <@TheAUT> Siggint that Pansy
[22:08] <@Hiro[TSI]> my first 3 weeks as MoW for TSI and i get to plan war
[22:08] <@Hiro[TSI]> how epic
[22:08] <@Hiro[TSI]> :D
[22:08] <&mhawk> http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=76903
[22:08] <@TheAUT> Here we go
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[22:15] <@Hiro[TSI]> im surprised nobody talked to you mhawk before Dowing
[22:16] <@Hiro[TSI]> that alone shows they have 1 intent from thre start
[22:16] <@Hiro[TSI]> is to hurt tpf in any way they can
[22:16] <~Desperado`> well, heres the fun one
[22:16] <~Desperado`> they did it w/o loondo
[22:16] <~Desperado`> he still doesnt know
[22:16] <@Hiro[TSI]> pmsl
[22:16] <@Hiro[TSI]> genius
[22:16] <@Shan_Revan> Seriously?
[22:16] <@Shan_Revan> awesome
[22:16] <~Desperado`> yep
[22:16] <@Hiro[TSI]> maybe he might see sense
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[22:17] <@Hiro[TSI]> and say no
[22:17] <~Desperado`> they are all like 'I CANT WAIT TIL HE GETS BACK!'
[22:17] <@Hiro[TSI]> then makes the others look like jackasses
[22:17] <%Iskander[NATO]> Haha, wow.
[22:17] <%Iskander[NATO]> That's really...something.
[22:17] <@Hiro[TSI]> RoK cant fight worth a shit anyways
[22:17] <@Hiro[TSI]> if sparta join there just meatshields anyways
[22:17] <@Hiro[TSI]> there military are a joke
[22:18] <@Hiro[TSI]> i dont know about athens fightign abilities
[22:19] <@NobodyExpects2> athens has like 17 WRCs
[22:19] <@Hiro[TSI]> ouch
[22:19] <@NobodyExpects2> they wont be up to much
[22:19] <@TheAUT> Attack the Athens and CnG will remind you why they don't need the valid CB
[22:19] <@Hiro[TSI]> i wish i had mine :(
[22:20] <@Hiro[TSI]> i will pretty much coordinate with aikir when hes on and ill puit our guys where he needs us
[22:20] <@Hiro[TSI]> put*
[22:20] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> we push the momentum
[22:20] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> keep repeating it hurr hurr hurr
[22:20] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> loud and shout
[22:22] <@NobodyExpects2> CN OWF PR summed up in 3 wise sentences
[22:22] <&Pansy> no u
[22:22] <&Pansy> no u
[22:22] <&Pansy> nono u
[22:22] <@NobodyExpects2> no U
[22:22] <@NobodyExpects2> NO U
[22:22] <@TheAUT> <TheAUT> 'sup Slevin
[22:22] <@TheAUT> <Bluto|ZH> im a nutcase
[22:22] <@TheAUT> <TheAUT> I was being a bit too diplomatic there, huh?
[22:22] <@TheAUT> I'm gonna explode with war
[22:27] <@Hiro[TSI]> maybe someoen will actually anarchy me in this war
[22:27] <@Hiro[TSI]> the last 2 wars were just plain dissapointing
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[22:38] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> gotta pound on that thread
[22:38] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> cmon guys!!
[22:39] <&Pansy> lol
[22:43] <@TheAUT> Zero Honor is vowing to completely destroy my nation for reporting Bluto/Slevin/EmperorCaesar
[22:44] <&Pansy> hahahaha oh well
[22:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Zero Honor?
[22:44] <@TheAUT> Some good shit right there folks
[22:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> time to sell that on OWF
[22:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> Aut, bein a while we trolled and rolled together
[22:44] <@TheAUT> Too long, Shash
[22:44] <@Shan_Revan> Optional Defence Network is longer
[22:44] <@Shan_Revan> but I agree, short is better
[22:51] <@TheAUT> Hey IRON
[22:51] <@TheAUT> Tell Matt Miller we're sorry about the tech dealing thing
[22:51] <@TheAUT> And if we make it out alive this war, we'll carry on with the plan
[22:52] <@Shan_Revan> kk
[22:52] <@Shan_Revan> we were looking forward to that by the way
[22:52] <@TheAUT> We were too
[22:52] <@TheAUT> Our Barcas all agreed, it's a shame
[22:52] <@TheAUT> It would've been very great
[22:53] <@TheAUT> But apparently some boneheads showed up
[22:53] <@TheAUT> Ruined everything :p
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[23:05] <@gantanX> good evening guys :D
[23:05] <@TheAUT> gantan, my citizens look like green glowsticks already
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[23:06] <@gantanX> hahahha, that's good :P
[23:06] <@gantanX> so, any update ?
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[23:08] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> LSF is on board with NATO
[23:08] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> meh our trolling effort sucks
[23:09] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> each of there reply needs to be eaten by 5-6 of ours
[23:09] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> thats not happening
[23:12] <&Pansy> AtheistRep[NATO], even if INT gop the other way?
01[23:17] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Need moar trolls
[23:17] <@TheAUT> CDT on Maroon
[23:17] <@TheAUT> :awesome:
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> also:
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Hai Misr :D
06[23:19] * @TheAUT takes pops away for a night of passion
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> omfg
[23:19] <@TheAUT> I love pre-war sex
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> #room?
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> lol
01[23:19] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> good times
[23:19] <@TheAUT> Absolutely!
01[23:20] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> #room unable to join channel (too many channels open)
01[23:20] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> :(
[23:20] <@TheAUT> :(
[23:20] <@TheAUT> #grudge ?
[23:20] <@TheAUT> :ehm:
06[23:20] * @Popsumpot[UCN] throws AUT onto Hobb's desk
[23:20] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> LSF can't say definitely right now what they'd do, only that the would not directly fight INT
06[23:21] * @TheAUT then flips pops onto Hobb's chair
[23:21] <@AtheistRep[NATO]> But they don't think it will be a problem to be on opposing sides.
[23:21] <@Shan_Revan> anyone here have rubber and would be willing to trade with me for like an hour?
01[23:22] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Hey AUT
01[23:22] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> you have a rubber?
[23:22] <@TheAUT> No.
[23:22] <@TheAUT> :(
01[23:22] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> No soz Shan
01[23:22] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> we're all out
[23:22] <@TheAUT> Also, I can't believe I'm saying this but...
[23:22] <@TheAUT> Does anyone have lead?
01[23:23] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> yup
[23:23] <@Iskander[NATO]> Yeah.
01[23:23] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> but I don't really want to temp
01[23:23] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> my trade circle is inactive...
[23:23] <@TheAUT> >:/
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01[23:40] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> hullo
[23:41] <@NobodyExpects2> kk Topgun{BAPS} is a BAPS Trium I am off to the funfair with the kids, he'll coordinate for us
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[23:43] <@TheAUT> Shah - we're hittting the forums hard now
[23:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=76903&view=findpost&p=2056293 <-- Thier weak point
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> yup
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Im trolling too
[23:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> repeat repeat repeat
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> Shah
[23:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> pick on something, then just repeat repeat repeat
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> this is trolling
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> reason d oesn't work
01[23:44] <@Popsumpot[UCN]> it's just volume
[23:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> troll but throw in reason
[23:44] <@Shan_Revan> Exactly
[23:44] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> :)
[23:44] <@Shan_Revan> well
[23:44] <@Shan_Revan> volume is more important
[23:45] <@Shan_Revan> but a little reason doesn't hurt
[23:45] <@Shan_Revan> but mostly volume is what wins
[23:45] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> reason + volume helps with people sitting on fence
[23:45] <@Iskander[NATO]> Volume, mass, pressure, and temperature.
[23:46] <@TheAUT> We can't have STP
[23:46] <@TheAUT> We need to keep the temperature and pressure high
[23:46] <@Shan_Revan> Exactly
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[23:48] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> k guys i need some RL break ;p
[23:49] <@TheAUT> God, I wish I was self-righteous as Tyga
[23:49] <@TheAUT> Then anything I say that's wrong is right
[23:50] <@TheAUT> Wow
[23:50] <@TheAUT> Sargun is tearing them to shreds
[23:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> is he on our side or theres lol
[23:51] <@TheAUT> Our's
[23:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> best way to deal with Tyga is he usually says same thing with paraphrasing
[23:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> also try article-changer.net
[23:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> it'll spin your words ;D
[23:51] <@Shahenshah[IRON]> lolo