17:00 <@henne> Welcome to the openSUSE Status Meeting!
17:00 <@henne> This meeting is meant to discuss the latest developments in and
around openSUSE.
17:00 <@henne> The topics of this meeting are:
17:00 <@henne> * Status 10.2
17:00 <@henne> * Status wiki
17:00 <@henne> * Status build service
17:00 <@henne> * Q/A session
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17:01 <@henne> there we go
17:01 <@henne> AJaeger :)
17:01 < AJaeger> Thanks, Sir!
17:01 < AJaeger> I'd like to mention 10.1 as well, here's my short summary:
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17:01 < AJaeger> * Alpha4 went out last week, Alpha5 will come on the 5th of
October.
17:01 < AJaeger> With Alpha5 we will have a component freeze (no integration
of new
17:01 < AJaeger> components like a new package manager), and do the first
round of
17:01 < AJaeger> software translations (note: We now have a public subversion
17:01 < AJaeger> repository for this).
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17:02 * AJaeger screams and ask why he went offline :-(((
17:02 < adrianS> "(Excess Flood)"
17:02 < cthiel> AJaeger: still using your borken kopete? :)
17:02 < AJaeger> cthiel: Sorry :-(
17:02 < cthiel> s/borken/broken/ of course.
17:03 < AJaeger> No, I'm using a 10.1 kopete on my 10.2 system.
17:03 < AJaeger> Let me try briefly again...
17:03 <@henne> well get over it and continue
17:03 * henne has a football game to watch
17:03 < AJaeger> Alpha4 went out last week, Alpha5 will come on the 5th of
October.
17:03 < AJaeger> With Alpha5 we will have a component freeze (no integration
of new
17:03 < AJaeger> components like a new package manager), and do the first
round of
17:03 < AJaeger> software translations ( Alpha4 went out last week, Alpha5
will come on the 5th of October.
17:03 < AJaeger> With Alpha5 we will have a comp Alpha4 went out last week,
Alpha5 will come on the 5th of October.
17:03 < AJaeger> With Alpha5 we will have a component freeze (no integration
of new
17:03 < AJaeger> components like a new package manager), and do the first
round of
17:03 < AJaeger> software translations (note: We now have a public subversion
17:03 < AJaeger> repository for this).onent freeze (no integration of new
17:03 < AJaeger> components like a new package manager), and do the first
round of
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17:03 < AJaeger> software translations (note: We now have a public subversion
17:03 < AJaeger> repository for this).note: We now have a public subversion
17:03 < AJaeger> repository for this).
17:03 * AJaeger screams again.
17:03 < Beineri> that looks broken though :-)
17:04 < adrianS> we got it in the first run
17:04 < AJaeger> Ok guys, I'm switching clients - please somebody take the next
topic and I switch machines...
17:04 <@henne> jeesuus. get a decent client
17:04 < adrianS> simply go on
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17:04 * Beineri proposes Konversation
17:04 * AJaeger is back in two minutes...
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17:04 < adrianS> Status Wiki ?
17:05 <@henne> okay lets continue with topic 2 then
17:05 <@henne> status wiki
17:05 <@henne> adrianS?
17:05 < adrianS> There are not really any technical news around the wiki, it
simply works ;)
17:05 <@henne> any ETA on the splah/index yet?
17:05 < adrianS> Martin is currently on tour, because Sonja gave over the
evangelist job to him
17:05 < adrianS> so he is currently on presentation tour through germany
17:06 < adrianS> IIRC this week, but I do not know exactly
17:06 <@henne> okay so no real news on the wiki :)
17:06 < adrianS> But I can report back from Frank Sundermeyer for the protocoll
later
17:06 < cthiel> henne: fs is back from vacation and will take over..
17:06 <@henne> okay
17:06 <@henne> lets see if we can get buildservice done before AJ comes back ;)
17:06 < cthiel> henne: so, we still need a little script bit to be able to
launch the splash
17:07 < adrianS> Build Service:
17:07 < adrianS> 1. bugs: we do fight with our new build clients atm
17:07 < cthiel> henne: the frontpage redesign is WIP by martin, as he needs to
coordinate the translation first.
17:07 <@henne> cthiel: okay. so no news
17:07 < adrianS> some jobs simply stall and we have to fix it manually atm
17:07 < adrianS> I hope we find the reason soon
17:07 <@henne> didnt we already fix that twice? :)
17:08 < adrianS> Beside of that we (Esp. Andreas Bauer and Michael Schroeder)
are working on getting full local build support
17:08 < adrianS> and a way to remove projects
17:08 <@henne> is search done?
17:08 * henne did not look
17:08 < adrianS> 3rd big topic is to get kernels and maintainance packages
injected automatically
17:09 < adrianS> together with a new kmp template we will be able to build
kernel modules in the build service
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17:09 < adrianS> So we will get a Kernel:Community project where everybody can
build and host new drivers
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17:09 < adrianS> I think this is it for now
17:10 < AJaeger> I'm back again...
17:10 <@henne> adrianS: is search done?
17:10 < adrianS> no, that does not yet really exist
17:10 < adrianS> however, one could implement it via the API afaik ;)
17:10 <@henne> ok
17:11 <@henne> what about ichains?
17:11 < adrianS> ah, also WIP
17:11 < adrianS> we reach the next Gate process
17:11 < adrianS> we fullfilled the test plan, I just need to do the bandwidth
tests
17:11 <@henne> okay. sounds promising
17:12 <@henne> any questions regarding the buildservice and/or the wiki?
17:12 < rodrigo_lunch> yes, I'vbe got one
17:12 < adrianS> regarding the search again, only to be clear. The API can do
search already, but we do not have any tools using it atm
17:12 <@henne> rodrigo_lunch: shoot
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17:13 < rodrigo__> I've heard there are scripts to sync autobuild's kde and the
build service
17:13 < rodrigo__> if they exist, can we do the same for GNOME?
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17:13 <@henne> adrianS?
17:13 < adrianS> rodrigo__: this depends on the people, talk to jpr and gekker,
they didn't want to do it when I asked two weeks ago
17:13 < rodrigo__> ah, ok :)
17:14 < adrianS> but they come to Nbg soon
17:14 < rodrigo__> yeah, me too :)
17:14 < adrianS> we will raise the topic again, when they are here
17:14 <@henne> then you raise the topic ;)
17:14 < rodrigo__> would it be possible then if they agree?
17:14 < adrianS> sure
17:14 < rodrigo__> I'll raise it right now on the other irc channel :)
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17:14 < rodrigo__> ok, great
17:15 <@henne> any other questions?
17:15 < adrianS> PLease just ask, before you create any project
17:15 < adrianS> to avoid a later needed move
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17:15 <@henne> okay i guess we can do status 10.X
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17:15 <@henne> AJaeger try again ;)
17:16 * AJaeger tries and holds his breath :)
17:16 <@henne> .o0(hopefully his client has no K in the name)
17:16 < AJaeger> Alpha4 went out last week, Alpha5 will come on the 5th of
October.
17:16 < AJaeger> With Alpha5 we will have a component freeze (no integration of
new
17:16 < AJaeger> components like a new package manager), and do the first round
of
17:16 < AJaeger> software translations (note: We now have a public subversion
17:16 < AJaeger> repository for this).
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17:16 < AJaeger> We're still struggeling with the package manager update for
10.1.
17:16 < AJaeger> The last fix for script handling had a bug and we have to
17:16 < AJaeger> investigate further. We might also get patch/delta RPM
support into
17:16 < AJaeger> zmd and integrate that (not yet clear when it will come and
whether
17:16 < AJaeger> we take it).
17:16 < AJaeger> I would like especially your feedback on the patterns for
openSUSE
17:16 < AJaeger> 10.2. Those are getting improved nearly daily, so check the
factory
17:16 < AJaeger> install for details. I don't want to add too many patterns
right now
17:16 < AJaeger> since the user interface is not optimal yet, we need to clean
that up
17:16 < AJaeger> to show the patterns in a better way and I doubt we can do
this for
17:16 < AJaeger> 10.2 in time.
17:17 < AJaeger> I'm very pleased about the feedback I got for Alpha4 but
there's still much to do - especially my favourite application
(kopete) is just broken ;-)
17:17 < AJaeger> Questions, comments?
17:17 <@henne> AJaeger: can you take the one from the Q/A?
17:17 < AJaeger> Ah - forgot to check before...
17:17 < AJaeger> Wait, will check...
17:17 <@henne> if 10.2 will be the last 10.x
17:17 <@henne> and whats the policy behind that
17:18 < AJaeger> The question was what the release number is after 10.2.
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17:18 < AJaeger> My answer is: That's something that Michael L�ffler normally
defines. I'm currently planning to have a 10.3 followed by a
11.0. but it might be a 11.0 instead of a 10.3. Those are
just marketing names.
17:19 <@henne> any other questions comments on 10.x?
17:19 <@henne> not?
17:20 < AJaeger> We do increase our number between enterprise releases. So,
SUSE Linux Enterprise SErver 9 came out after 9.1, SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server 10 after 10.1 - and before SUSE Linux
Enterprise SErver 11 hits the road we increase again.
17:20 < AJaeger> There's no formal policy.
17:20 < AJaeger> Really no questions?
17:20 < AJaeger> Then join me in discussion of patterns ("Software groupings")
on the opensuse-factory mailing list!
17:20 < cboltz> A short one about yesterdays libzypp update in ~aj ;-)
17:21 < bgerber> where is the public svn you mentioned?
17:21 < cboltz> I am asked to install the libzypp-patch-zmdrestart.sh-2.1533-1
script in a loop - known bug?
17:21 * AJaeger is just searching his bookmarks...
17:21 < AJaeger> cboltz: Known blocker :-(
17:21 < AJaeger> bgerber: Check
http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Suse-i18n and the
opensuse-translation list.
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17:22 < Beineri> follow the links on http://i18n.opensuse.org/ :-)
17:22 < bgerber> ok thanks
17:22 <@henne> i guess anyone got that we have two new mailinglists
17:22 < Beineri> why was the launch auf die Localization Portal not announced
btw?
17:22 <@henne> opensuse-project@opensuse.org for project talk
17:22 <@henne> opensuse-bugs@opensuse.org that gets every single change in
every bug
17:23 <@henne> Action Item Beineri: announce the Localization Portal
17:23 <@henne> or kick the docu wichtel to do it
17:23 < AJaeger> henne: Make that an action item for me if Beineri does not
want it ;-)
17:24 * Beineri doesn't want ;-)
17:24 <@henne> Action Item AJaeger: announce the Localization Portal or kick
the docu wichtel to do it
17:24 <@henne> any general questions?
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17:25 <@henne> not?
17:25 < Beineri> news.opensuse.org? <gd&r>
17:26 <@henne> ?
17:26 < cboltz> AJaeger: AI is
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=205173
17:26 < Beineri> when will it carry news? it's linked in 10.1 :-(
17:26 <@henne> adrianS/cthiel do you know?
17:27 < cthiel> -ENOCLUE
17:27 * AJaeger thanks cboltz
17:27 < adrianS> henne: the original plan was to use a mediawiki feature
17:27 < adrianS> this broken unfortunatly
17:27 <@henne> ok i guess we have to take that offline then..
17:27 < adrianS> so we can either only maintain it manually for now or to dig
into mediawiki
17:28 < adrianS> yes, lets do that
17:28 <@henne> any other general questions?
17:28 < Beineri> then there is a broken link in Akregator, Kontact, Konqueror
etc. :-(
17:28 <@henne> we did not say we wont do it...
17:28 <@henne> lets see what darix has to say about that
17:29 <@henne> Action Item darix: make news.opensuse.org work
17:29 <@henne> Okay. The next opensuse status meeting will be at the 26th of
september, same time, same channel
17:29 <@henne> thank you all for participating
17:30 <@henne> good night and good luck!
17:30 < cthiel> that one was quick :)
17:30 < cthiel> byebye
17:30 < Beineri> everyone wants to see the pope?
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17:30 < kaiSVK> oooo pope is in Germany
17:30 <@henne> !topicdiff
17:30 < adrianS> bye bye