[16:05:05] <coolbho3k> I wouldn't buy from WALMART if it was the last place I could get Platinum on earth
[16:05:12] <coolbho3k> I'll just get the ROM
[16:05:12] <fenzo> But it's the same price.
[16:05:15] <Nick-kun> Collector's edition?
[16:05:15] <Nick-kun> wtf
[16:05:16] <fenzo> AND you get a POUCH
[16:05:18] <coolbho3k> WALMART is bad
[16:05:18] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - thats illegal
[16:05:21] <@square-kun> pounch?
[16:05:24] <coolbho3k> Serebii: I know ;)
[16:05:26] <fenzo> and a GIRATINA FIGURINE
[16:05:29] <@square-kun> oh whats this
[16:05:37] <fenzo> READ: http://db.pokesav.org/main/?q=03-14-09-Pokemon-Platinum-Collectors-Edition
[16:05:37] <@square-kun> ew
[16:05:38] <waka[bot]> Title: Collector's Edition Pokémon Platinum Version | The PKM Database
[16:05:40] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - do you not have morals?
[16:05:43] <@square-kun> the pouchis ugly
[16:05:44] <coolbho3k> http://db.pokesav.org/main/?q=03-14-09-Pokemon-Platinum-Collectors-Edition
[16:05:46] <waka[bot]> Title: Collector's Edition Pokémon Platinum Version | The PKM Database
[16:05:50] <fenzo> fail
[16:05:50] <fenzo> :\
[16:05:55] <@square-kun> i like my dialga palkia pouch that came with my ds
[16:05:58] <coolbho3k> Serebii: Yes, but buying from WALMART outweighs any morals I have
[16:06:03] <@square-kun> http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/04/54/96/74/0004549674025_AV_500X500.jpg
[16:06:10] <Nick-kun> Yeah. Wal-mart sucks.
[16:06:12] • square-kun rolls his eyes
[16:06:16] <@square-kun> almost every thing i own
[16:06:19] <@square-kun> and all the food in the kitchen
[16:06:20] <Nick-kun> Everything I buy from there is defective.
[16:06:23] <@square-kun> came from walmart
[16:06:26] <fenzo> haha
[16:06:32] <fenzo> Walmart...
[16:06:38] <coolbho3k> Though I felt free to get the Japanese version - if Nintendo wants to release it there first that's fine with me, but I'm pirating it
[16:06:47] <+Serebii> then buy from somewhere else
[16:06:59] <coolbho3k> Exactly, Serebii, exactly
[16:07:00] <+Serebii> they release it there first because Japan is Nintendo's primary focus
[16:07:05] <@square-kun> joe you own jp platinum right? is the cover sparkley?
[16:07:09] <coolbho3k> We have such a larger market however
[16:07:21] <coolbho3k> (North America)
[16:07:25] <+Serebii> sparkley?
[16:07:31] <@square-kun> like the diamond and pearl covers
[16:07:39] <fenzo> Holographic?
[16:07:41] <fenzo> Doubt it.
[16:07:42] <coolbho3k> And the poor Europeans get it months after as well
[16:07:48] <+Serebii> I didnt notice and my case aint here
[16:07:56] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - thats how all games go
[16:08:00] <satoshiX> ain't isnt a word
[16:08:02] <fenzo> Let me check my case.
[16:08:03] <fenzo> One sec.
[16:08:05] <+Bluntasaur> I'm buying my copy of Platimun at Play n' Trade.
[16:08:05] <@square-kun> ok
[16:08:06] <@SailorClef> you mean the actual game or just the case?
[16:08:15] <@square-kun> just the case
[16:08:16] <coolbho3k> Serebii: non-Nintendo games often have global launch dates
[16:08:19] <+Serebii> they market it at different times so they can get the right amount of units around the world and make money
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[16:08:25] <+Serebii> just the case, the game is in my DS
[16:08:27] <@SailorClef> i could check but i'm kinda too lazy right now >_>;
[16:08:35] <coolbho3k> I don't know of anything Nintendo that had a global launch date
[16:08:38] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - often is not really the word you should use
[16:08:41] <+Serebii> Mario Galaxy
[16:08:42] <@square-kun> i didnt expect the game to sparkle :P
[16:08:45] <coolbho3k> OK
[16:08:49] <fenzo> IT IS SHINY
[16:08:52] <fenzo> The Box is SHINY
[16:08:52] <Nick-kun> OMG
[16:08:53] <fenzo> :D
[16:08:55] <Nick-kun> A SHINY GAME
[16:09:00] <Nick-kun> BETTER THAN SHINY POKEMON
[16:09:02] <+Serebii> the Wii was pretty much worldwide too
[16:09:03] <Nick-kun> =D
[16:09:04] <@square-kun> i wonder
[16:09:11] <Nick-kun> Halo 3 was worldwide.
[16:09:13] <fenzo> the cart is also shiny
[16:09:14] <Nick-kun> I think.
[16:09:15] <coolbho3k> Pearl was shiny box <:B
[16:09:17] <@square-kun> if i preorder plat at walmart
[16:09:17] <coolbho3k> And Diamond
[16:09:19] <coolbho3k> <:B
[16:09:21] <@square-kun> can i get it at walmart?
[16:09:28] <coolbho3k> I would have liked a color cartridge though
[16:09:31] <coolbho3k> *colored
[16:09:35] <coolbho3k> And transparent
[16:09:37] <Nick-kun> =O
[16:09:40] <coolbho3k> But probably the Nintendo factories couldn't do it
[16:09:42] <Nick-kun> I would've killed for that.
[16:09:55] <@square-kun> as much as i think it might be neat to save up for a dsi
[16:09:58] <@square-kun> im waiting for more colors
[16:10:02] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - its not just units
[16:10:05] <+Serebii> its marketing
[16:10:08] <@square-kun> i want lime green :(
[16:10:18] <@square-kun> europe got a green ds lite
[16:10:20] <fenzo> There's a lime green? o.0
[16:10:25] <fenzo> I thought it was Japan
[16:10:28] <fenzo> They got 4 new colors
[16:10:31] <fenzo> But no lime green
[16:10:31] <coolbho3k> But when Nintendo actually hides the existence of Platinum from the rest of the world for months (and fails at it)....
[16:10:35] <@square-kun> im talking about ds lite
[16:10:38] <fenzo> It was a pale green i think
[16:10:38] <coolbho3k> It's not real good marketing
[16:10:39] <fenzo> Oh
[16:10:41] <fenzo> My bad
[16:10:54] <+Serebii> coolbho3k - that happens WITH MOST GAMES FROM JAPANESE DEVELOPERS
[16:10:59] <Nick-kun> My friend took the casing off the white DSLite and put on the transparent blue.
[16:11:02] <+Serebii> they do the marketing around each local base
[16:11:06] <coolbho3k> >_>
[16:11:11] <Nick-kun> The hinge was broken anyways.
[16:11:13] <@square-kun> i like my dialga palkia ds lite
[16:11:14] <+Serebii> there is no point starting the marketing train if its not going to come for months
[16:11:14] <fenzo> This conversation is real cute ;)
[16:11:18] <@square-kun> yeah my white lites hinge broke
[16:11:20] <+Serebii> learn business
[16:11:24] <coolbho3k> But why isn't it coming for months?
[16:11:34] <coolbho3k> Does it really take that long to localize Pokemon?
[16:11:35] <Nick-kun> I could replace my casing with the special edition Pokemon.
[16:11:39] <@square-kun> are eu pokemon games in multiple languages?
[16:11:42] <+Serebii> no
[16:11:50] <+Serebii> coolbho3k
[16:11:51] <+Serebii> as I said
[16:11:53] <+Serebii> its marketing
[16:12:02] <+Serebii> they release it at the times they think they'll get the best sales
[16:12:06] <+Serebii> they plan it strategically
[16:12:07] <fenzo> They intentionally delay the release in other countries.
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[16:12:14] <coolbho3k> How would it be advantageous to delay the release?
[16:12:19] <coolbho3k> Or release it at a certain time?
[16:12:20] <@square-kun> very?
[16:12:25] <@square-kun> release a game around christmas
[16:12:25] <coolbho3k> march isn't exactly shopping season
[16:12:28] <@square-kun> kapoy
[16:12:30] <Nick-kun> Anyone else here pissed that Europe got MK Wii before US?
[16:12:31] <@square-kun> kapow**
[16:12:40] <Nick-kun> Anyways.
[16:12:44] <+Serebii> its before spring break
[16:12:49] <Nick-kun> No one wants to buy a game RIGHT after Christmas.
[16:12:51] <+Serebii> Nick-kun - it was by like 3 days
[16:12:56] <Nick-kun> Try a week.
[16:12:58] <Nick-kun> D=
[16:13:01] <+Serebii> oh
[16:13:01] <+Serebii> a week
[16:13:03] <+Serebii> terrible
[16:13:04] <@square-kun> they also have to think about the economy of the place they are releasing it i bet
[16:13:11] <Nick-kun> I had Frenchies kicking my ass already.
[16:13:14] <coolbho3k> Economy?
[16:13:15] <fenzo> Reminds me of SSBB. Local drug stores in Canada were selling it a few days early.
[16:13:21] <fenzo> And everyone was flippin out.
[16:13:26] <@square-kun> :O
[16:13:30] <@square-kun> im moving to canada :(
[16:13:32] <coolbho3k> I remember the panic when people couldn't dump the ISO
[16:13:37] <fenzo> Yeah.
[16:13:39] <coolbho3k> Because it was dual layer
[16:13:44] <@square-kun> i stood in line at gamestop
[16:13:47] <fenzo> For weeks people were trying to figure out the dual layer.
[16:13:49] <coolbho3k> And when peoples' Wiis had to get repaired to read it
[16:13:52] <coolbho3k> XD
[16:13:55] <+Serebii> I think its disgusting how so many people just pirate stuff like this
[16:13:57] <@square-kun> and got a classic controller and brawl
[16:14:04] <Nick-kun> =O
[16:14:14] <coolbho3k> It isn't like Nintendo isn't rolling in money right now
[16:14:22] <+Serebii> and that makes it right?
[16:14:22] <@square-kun> to be honest, im too lazy/worried to allow my wii to play backups
[16:14:23] <@square-kun> and
[16:14:32] <+Serebii> stealing is stealing
[16:14:32] <coolbho3k> Perhaps
[16:14:34] <@square-kun> most of the games i wanted for wii
[16:14:34] <fenzo> Serebii, you remind me of Filb sometimes :D
[16:14:36] <@square-kun> i bought
[16:14:37] <+Serebii> doesnt matter how rich the victim is
[16:14:39] <coolbho3k> Stealing != piracy
[16:14:39] • Misty is back
[16:14:43] <+Serebii> no
[16:14:44] <coolbho3k> Yes
[16:14:45] <+Serebii> piracy is stealing
[16:14:49] <coolbho3k> Piracy is not stealing
[16:14:51] <Nick-kun> I should pirate things.
[16:14:57] <coolbho3k> Piracy is "unauthorized copying"
[16:14:58] <Nick-kun> I am a pastafarian.
[16:15:05] <+Bluntasaur> I don't mind emulation, as long as it's not a current system.
[16:15:11] <fenzo> SPEAKING OF PIRATES:
[16:15:11] <fenzo> http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
[16:15:12] <+Serebii> it's essentially stealing
[16:15:13] <+Bluntasaur> Hell, I have a full collection of MAME roms.
[16:15:19] <+Serebii> you're utilising a product without paying for it
[16:15:19] <@square-kun> i do lots of snes and nes emulation
[16:15:22] <+Serebii> that is theft
[16:15:24] <@square-kun> its why i bought a psp
[16:15:27] <coolbho3k> But I'm not taking anything away from anyone - just potential profit
[16:15:36] <coolbho3k> A download does not equal a lost sale
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[16:15:44] <+Serebii> for most it does
[16:15:47] <@square-kun> thats true actually
[16:15:51] <+Serebii> they download the game instead of buying it
[16:15:53] <coolbho3k> If I download Windows Server 2008 it doesn't mean I was actually going to buy it for $800
[16:15:53] <+Bluntasaur> Umm, Serebii.....
[16:15:53] <+Serebii> therefore
[16:15:55] <+Serebii> lost sale
[16:16:03] <@square-kun> i played pearl roms before i bought it
[16:16:05] <+Bluntasaur> What if the company that made the game NO LONGER EXISTS?
[16:16:09] <@square-kun> same with a ton of DS games
[16:16:10] <coolbho3k> It wasn't like I was actually going to buy Wii Music
[16:16:15] <@square-kun> i played the roms then decided to buy it
[16:16:21] <coolbho3k> But I did buy Metroid Prime 3
[16:16:25] • Sketch is listening to - Hideki Kobayashi - Sonic Unleashed (2008) - 52 - Egg Dragoon Boss «»02:03/05:09 [¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦¦ «»128 kbps mp3 «« CHAW-HAW-HAW
[16:16:26] <+Serebii> square-kun - yeah there's people like you who do that
[16:16:26] <+Serebii> but
[16:16:28] <+Serebii> most people
[16:16:28] <coolbho3k> And PBR (even though feature wise it was pretty bad)
[16:16:29] <+Serebii> don't
[16:16:31] <+Serebii> they just download
[16:16:33] <+Serebii> and don't buy
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[16:16:45] <@square-kun> for games
[16:16:54] <Limer> Hah, as if it NEARLY is a one-one ratio
[16:16:56] <@square-kun> i usually just download the japanese versions to hold me over
[16:17:01] <Limer> Of games they would have bought
[16:17:07] <Limer> To games they download
[16:17:07] <@square-kun> that reminds me
[16:17:08] <@square-kun> dissida
[16:17:10] <Limer> It isn't even close
[16:17:10] <@square-kun> when does it come out
[16:17:16] <Limer> For most people
[16:17:18] <+Serebii> Lim - it's still theft
[16:17:21] <coolbho3k> Wait Serebii
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[16:17:30] <coolbho3k> How do you get pics for the episodes?
[16:17:37] <coolbho3k> Do you buy all the Pokemon DVDs?
[16:17:42] <coolbho3k> Or rip them off TV?
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[16:17:45] <coolbho3k> Hmmm I wonder
[16:18:27] <coolbho3k> See
[16:18:30] <coolbho3k> Anyone can justify piracy
[16:18:40] <+Serebii> there is no justification for piracy
[16:18:45] <+Bluntasaur> Okay, Serebii......
[16:18:46] <+Serebii> yes I get the ep as a tv rip
[16:18:47] <+Bluntasaur> You gotta see this.
[16:18:48] <+Bluntasaur> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS6-uw68DJQ
[16:18:51] <+Serebii> but as soon as I get the pics done
[16:18:51] <waka[bot]> Title: YouTube - RDCCDX: The Digital Pirates of Dark Water Saga: Ep. 2
[16:18:52] <+Serebii> I delete it
[16:19:00] <satoshiX> piracy is piracy
[16:19:04] <coolbho3k> >.<
[16:19:10] <coolbho3k> You just justified your piracy
[16:19:12] <coolbho3k> >.>
[16:19:15] <+Bluntasaur> And this = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkwpz7ha_6U
[16:19:17] <waka[bot]> Title: YouTube - RDCCDX: The Digital Pirates of Dark Water Saga: Episode 3: "Interrogation Vacation"
[16:19:29] <+Serebii> tv rips is not on the same level as that
[16:19:37] <coolbho3k> Why? They're full episodes
[16:19:40] <coolbho3k> That you're downloading
[16:19:47] <+Serebii> which you don't pay for
[16:19:55] <fenzo> Someone once put pirating this way:
[16:19:56] <satoshiX> of course you do
[16:19:56] <coolbho3k> Umm it's still piracy
[16:19:59] <+Serebii> you have to pay for games generally
[16:20:03] <satoshiX> you're paying for television service
[16:20:10] <coolbho3k> Yes
[16:20:12] <+Sketch> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJyfN0ICU
[16:20:14] <waka[bot]> Title: YouTube - You are a pirate
[16:20:18] <+Serebii> yes I do pay for television service
[16:20:18] <satoshiX> unless you're still living in your parents basement
[16:20:21] <+nagrom> I remember back when Dogasu criticized anime pirates
[16:20:23] <+nagrom> even though he downloads tons of anime himself lol
[16:20:23] <fenzo> "It's like going over to a friend's house to watch his DVD. I didn't pay to watch it, but I am still watching it."
[16:20:37] <@square-kun> hi fagrom
[16:20:40] <fenzo> Essentially it's sharing on a global scale?
[16:20:48] <+nagrom> hi square
[16:21:00] <+Serebii> the episode does not actually cost anything
[16:21:09] <coolbho3k> Exactly. It's like going over to my friend's house and playing his Platinum. A copy of all the spirtes, etc. I view are being "shared" to my eyes
[16:21:12] <+Serebii> therefore it's not on the same scale is doiwnloading games
[16:21:15] <satoshiX> it doesn't cost money to produce
[16:21:15] <coolbho3k> It cost money to make and stuff
[16:21:17] <satoshiX> ?
[16:21:20] <coolbho3k> Just like games
[16:21:24] <+Serebii> not what I said
[16:21:28] <+Serebii> I said it doesnt cost US money
[16:21:37] <+firepokemon> ugh
[16:21:39] <satoshiX> dubbing it costs US money
[16:21:39] <+firepokemon> piracy is evil
[16:21:47] <+firepokemon> you will go to hell
[16:21:49] <+firepokemon> and pay for your sins
[16:22:01] <+Bluntasaur> TONIGHT, WE DOWNLOAD IN HELL!
[16:22:05] <coolbho3k> Serebii: Right it costs Yen
[16:22:09] <fenzo> THIS IS PIRACY!!!!
[16:22:17] <fenzo> *sparta imitation*
[16:22:17] <+Alana> MOMMA, I'M GOING TO HELL
[16:22:26] <+Serebii> I said US as in us not US as in the united states
[16:22:31] <+Serebii> good christ people, stop being so dim
[16:22:41] <coolbho3k> US
[16:22:46] <+nYoo> _us_
[16:22:47] <+Sketch> See Serebii...
[16:22:50] <+Sketch> You could has capitalized
[16:22:52] <satoshiX> think about what you type before you hit enter serebii
[16:23:00] <+Serebii> I did
[16:23:01] <+Sketch> "us" for empahasis
[16:23:04] <coolbho3k> No
[16:23:11] <satoshiX> at least italicize it or something
[16:23:15] <+Sketch> So...yeah, kind of hard to distinguish. Especially here on the internets.
[16:23:18] <&Misty> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29684291/ Baghdag! >:O
[16:23:19] <satoshiX> because you can do that in IRC
[16:23:19] <waka[bot]> Title: Obama Baghdag envoy nominee to meet with lawmakers - MSNBC Wire Services- msnbc.com
[16:23:36] <+Bluntasaur> That would make a funny sitcom
[16:23:41] <+Serebii> I said what was meant to be said. It's not my fault you misinterpreted
[16:23:43] <+Bluntasaur> YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON IRC!
[16:23:49] <+nagrom> you can't italicize on irc, I don't think
[16:23:50] <+nagrom> you can bold
[16:23:52] <+nagrom> and underline
[16:23:58] <+nagrom> but not italicize
[16:24:02] <+Sketch> Now, I'm not going to lie. I downloaded the Japanese Platinum rom.
[16:24:02] <satoshiX> whatever
[16:24:03] <coolbho3k> spp-wifi bot kicks Bluntasaur (Excessive capitalization)
[16:24:08] <+Sketch> And then I bought the game from Play-ASia.
[16:24:09] <+Serebii> especially since if it were to be US as in United States
[16:24:09] <coolbho3k> Nvm
[16:24:11] <coolbho3k> Nvm
[16:24:13] <coolbho3k> I'm just joking man
[16:24:14] <+Serebii> it would not make grammatical sense
[16:24:21] <+nYoo> US
[16:24:23] <+nYoo> US
[16:24:23] <+nYoo> US
[16:24:30] <satoshiX> why, would you have typed U.S.?
[16:24:39] <+Bluntasaur> <coolbho3k> spp-wifi bot kicks Bluntasaur (Excessive capitalization) <----- Hence why I never go back to that festering pit of stupid.
[16:24:47] <+nagrom> the US is awesome
[16:24:48] <+nagrom> imo
[16:24:54] <coolbho3k> No I want to leave the US
[16:24:56] <+Serebii> no, I would have had a sentence which would have had it make sense
[16:24:59] <+Bluntasaur> <+Serebii> it would not make grammatical sense <------ NOTHING on the internet makes grammatical sense.