Part of Slepp's ProjectsPastebinTURLImagebinFilebin
Feedback -- English French German Japanese
Create Upload Newest Tools Donate
Sign In | Create Account

Miscellany
Saturday, October 27th, 2007 at 3:09:50pm UTC 

  1. In an attempt to clarify what these are:
  2.  
  3. These are not the best place to "test" new features. In many cases unsupported builds have far too many patches to be useful in testing any one patch for inclusion in SVN. Often the interaction of multiple patches creates an environment where it's nearly impossible to tell which patch, if any, is causing problems. This is also why bug reports aren't accepted on any of these builds. Bugs may come from a specific one patch (they should be reported to that patch author), an interaction between two things which aren't wrong on their own (nobody's at fault, and there's no real bug when using the patches on their own as they're intended for until the official environment contains one and it conflicts with the other), OR there's something wrong with official Rockbox. Since it is nearly impossible to say which, and more patches makes it worse, we ask that you test with an official build.
  4.  
  5. Further, most of these builds are "used" rather than "tested". What this means is that no rigorous attempts go into finding problems with patches, as the intent of most people downloading these builds is to have access to the features, rather than to try to find any problems on specific feature might have.
  6.  
  7. With that in mind, if you want to see a feature enter mainstream Rockbox, please, take just the patch for that feature, install it, try to find ways that feature doesn't work properly, and provide feedback to that patch's task in flyspray. If possible, investigate the code yourself, and try to improve or fix problems. Ask why a patch hasn't been accepted, and attempt to improve around any hurdles that stand in its way.
  8.  
  9. I know it seems like unsupported builds are "testing what's coming up before it's out" but in truth they don't provide useful feedback or interaction with the developers actually making the decision, and evidence shows that often when a patch is widely used in unsupported builds little or no concentration goes into improving it for SVN inclusion. We would like to see these features as much as you, but as Rockbox is a community project, we depend on you, the community interested in these features, because that's all we are too: community members spending time on it.

Update the Post

Either update this post and resubmit it with changes, or make a new post.

You may also comment on this post.

update paste below
details of the post (optional)

Note: Only the paste content is required, though the following information can be useful to others.

Save name / title?

(space separated, optional)



Please note that information posted here will expire by default in one month. If you do not want it to expire, please set the expiry time above. If it is set to expire, web search engines will not be allowed to index it prior to it expiring. Items that are not marked to expire will be indexable by search engines. Be careful with your passwords. All illegal activities will be reported and any information will be handed over to the authorities, so be good.

comments powered by Disqus
worth-right
worth-right