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- Anonymous
- Friday, August 10th, 2012 at 5:10:35pm MDT
- 28<Nekumata28> Also you were clearly not just ｨjokingｨ.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> not just joking with what, exactly?
- 28<Nekumata28> MODS = FAGS
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> also if that's how society works it doesn't give you a free pass to follow it
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> uhh, how was that not a joke?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> it's a common 4chan spam thing
- 28<Nekumata28> Impersonating both of us
- 28<Nekumata28> Yeah, totally
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> it's hardly impersonating if I do it in fornt of everyone else and everyone knows who I am
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> that's seriously pushing it
- 28<Nekumata28> Yeah, you are indeed pushing it
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> No, I'm really not.
- 28<Nekumata28> I kicked you with a serious message/warning
- 28<Nekumata28> And you didnｴt seem to get it :D
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> You didn't seem to get what I was saying either. Clearly, it's a misunderstanding, but some people aren't so quick to see things that way when they can just ban people instead.
- 28<Nekumata28> Weｴre just really tired of you pretty much
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Honestly, you're pretty consistantly rotten in the chat, so I don't really want to her it from you. Combined with your earlier "WELL SOCIETY DOES IT TOO", it sounds to me like you're pretty much justifying bullying.
- 28<Nekumata28> Uh no?
- 28<Nekumata28> What?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> It's also sidestepping what I just said. If it's a misunderstanding, it can be cleared up and move on.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> When you start banning people, things get seriously, and yes, it does end up creating more drama instead of resolving it.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I know I explode sometimes but that pretty obviously wasn't the case today, or in general lately
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> if you actually take 5 seconds to explain something, you can avoid a lot of trouble
- 28<Nekumata28> The thing is, people just lolｴd and didnｴt go all ｨwhyｨ
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I talked to Boogerchan about this after I was kicked, and she had no clue what happened either
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> and she's a pretty long running member as far as I know
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> people probably thought it was a joke, not that that excuses it either
- 28<Nekumata28> It was a joke
- 28<Nekumata28> Not that it was an unjustified ban
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> With a SERIOUS WARNING?
- 28<Nekumata28> <Nekumata> Not that it was an unjustified ban
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> To me, it sounds like you just want things every which way.
- 28<Nekumata28> I think you missed a word
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I didn't. And I'd appreciate it if you stopped talking down to me like that.
- 28<Nekumata28> lol
- 28<Nekumata28> What does ｨEvery which wayｨ even mean
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I'm going to repeat that these sorts of bans just end up causing more trouble in the long run. They make things more serious than they need to.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> It's the same as "having your cake and eating it"
- 28<Nekumata28> Not really
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> wanting everything to go your way even if parts of that seem to contradict themselves
- 28<Nekumata28> Also itｴs causing no trouble, dunno what youｴre on about
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Yes, really. I've been on hundreds of communities since '96, and this has been a common thread in most of them from the early 00s onwards. I had a good chat with a friend of mine who's an admin of a small gear forum and had a lot of experience with that too. They cause bad blood and bitterness.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> it's not causing trouble because nobody that gives a shit has said anything yet
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> but if people keep having the sort of attitude you're giving me now, then yeah, it is going to cause more drama in the long run rather than less
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> because you're going out of your way to make people feel seriously excluded, and it being a joke doesn't really help that
- 28<Nekumata28> Anyway
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> it also makes people take the OPs less seriously, and people already have a hard time taking IRC OPs seriously
- 28<Nekumata28> Iｴm not even gonna bother
- 28<Nekumata28> See you
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> |You're a pretty rotten person, in all honesty. But I guess that's what it takes to fit in?
- 28<Nekumata28> Look
- 28<Nekumata28> You saying that
- 28<Nekumata28> Is fucking funny
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> You're going to tell me how few fucks you give?
- 28<Nekumata28> Thatｴs all Iｴm gonna say about that
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> To me you come off as a typical sheltered child who feels what little power he gets here gives him some importance. A cliche but a common one.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> "Communities donｴt adapt to the small people. Itｴs the other way, thatｴs just how society works." <- I'm not pulling that out of my ass either, this is the sort of thing a sheltered child would say
- 28<Nekumata28> You see, one of the major differences between us is you would go eternally butthurt if I explained my thoughts on you.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> and if you're not, you're just plain stupid enough to believe it
- 28<Nekumata28> Thatｴs really cool bro
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> oh great, "Butthurt" has come out now
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> and a variant of "cool story bro"
- 28<Nekumata28> Nah, itｴs just actually cool
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> it really makes me feel like I've done something when when I'm arguing with soemone who sounds like he fell off the ass end of Encyclopedia Dramatica
- 28<Nekumata28> Cute.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> It's pretty much dead on fucking true.
- 28<Nekumata28> I wonder if you honestly think any of this is getting to me
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Look, being perfectly honest here. If you weren't an OP, you weren't more established in that community. Almost anywhere else would see you as a dipshit for saying this sort of thing. Including the "THIS ISN'T GETTING TO ME REALLY". I'm not a professional troll or something. If you don't give a fuck, chances are that only makes me more right about my earlier assessment.
- 28<Nekumata28> Uh okay
- 28<Nekumata28> I got +o BECAUSE I was established in the community :D
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> And that gave you a badge of honour to be a dick to people who weren't. Cool beans.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> But as long as you don't give a shit about you being a bad person, that justifies it. I understand this.
- 28<Nekumata28> It gives me a badge of honour to ban people no one likes
- 28<Nekumata28> Thatｴs the gist of it
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I'm pretty sure no one likes is a lie, and isn't an excuse.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Again, you're justifying social exclusion and are acting like *I'm* the one doing something wrong.
- 28<Nekumata28> Iｴm not even going to begin explaining it, as that seems to be not working
- 28<Nekumata28> Anyway
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Banning someone just because some people don't like them is about one of the most insidious things you can do anyway, and puts you on the level of a schoolyard bully.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> No matter how few fucks you give, that's all you'll be.,
- 28<Nekumata28> Just please be quiet, Iｴm a bit busy
- 28<Nekumata28> Thatｴs cool bro
- 28<Nekumata28> Iｴm actually completely fine with that
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> you haven't even explained it. you've just acted like a typical tough guy OP and are wondering why I have an issue with that.
- 28<Nekumata28> Because I know who and what I am
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> A worthless wretch of a person, who should rightfully be sacked in the face?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> but you has buddies in an irc so it's okayz lol xxx
- 28<Nekumata28> And I donｴt need to listen to someone like you to confirm what I am
- 28<Nekumata28> And yes, I am belittling you.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> what do you by someone "like me"?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> How can you even belittle me, exactly?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> aside from a small IRC chat, what do you have over me?
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> clearly not moral integrity
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> or anything worth a fuck
- 28<Nekumata28> Well
- 28<Nekumata28> Clearly more emotional integrity, by miles
- 28<Nekumata28> On top of that, an occupation, friends, a girlfriend, and just generally a better condition I think,
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Lol, okay, let's break this down. First off, it's a recession. A lot of people have no control over that. Second, I do have friends. ANd yes, I even have one or two friends in here, even if they're not good ones. Secondly, are you fucking 14? Whether or not someone has a partner or not is not a measure of self worth.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> And emotional integrity; what's that a mesaure of exactly? That could just mean you're vastly more sheltered than I am so haven't had to put up with enough shit to drive me crazy. Or you're a clinical sociopath. Or any number of things.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Saying someone is emotionally weak, gets hurt by things, therefore is inferior. I'd point out how this is part of the internet tough guy thing, but I assume you don't care.
- 28<Nekumata28> Iｴve obviously gone through a lot but you couldnｴt know that, youｴre too busy believing your lies. Youｴre being just ｨemotionalｨ. Iｴm quite astonished by how youｴre unable to handle yourself.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Even if you have gone through a lot, it obviously haven't given you any real empathy for others. As long as they're "Unpopular" anyway
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> plus I find it hard to believe anyone that's truly marginalised would say shit like "Communities donｴt adapt to the small people. Itｴs the other way, thatｴs just how society works."
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> You know what, if you have been through shit, and you've come to that conclusion
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> that pretty much makes you a doormat then
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> which is kind of ironic
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I'm actually not being near as emotional as you think. No matter how I felt, I'd say pretty much the same shit. Of course I'm pissed that yet another community decided to elect some dweeb as an OP, but it doesn't change my reasoning.
- 28<Nekumata28> Iｴm sorry, Iｴm having a hard time taking any of this seriously once I saw you wrote ｨdweebｨ
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Funny, you accused me of being emotional, but by definition judging an argument on one word is a logical fallacy. Guess I am being more rational, after all?
- 28<Nekumata28> No, itｴs just that you throw all sorts of random shit, taking previous points and mangling them to your cause, getting extremely mad at getting treated the same as your crusade against us, and well then you said dweeb.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Thus giving you a pass, as usual, to ignore everything else I said.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Style over Substance fallacy
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Also, are you *seriously* making fun of my choice of words when you're using the typical "butthurt" vocab? really
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> do you know the average age of people who talk like you?/
- 28<Nekumata28> Oh, this is a serious adult conversation? Well.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Not an excuse.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I'm still just amazed that you tried to use "I have a girlfriend!" as an example of how you're a better person than me.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Regardless of everything else, one thing should be obvious. This conversation has a very malicious tone. Throwing someone out for being unpopular gives a place a malicious tone.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I get upset, but rarely malicious
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> If there were ever a measure of which one of us is the bigges dipshit, that would be it
- 28<Nekumata28> Thatｴs okay though, this isnｴt a debate or anything, and youｴre strawmanning everything I say on 1 point I said as a joke because well I don take this, or you, seriously
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Yeah, you're not even seriously debating me, that's an excuse for being an idiot about it.
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Somehow i doubt that's not how you really think.
- 28<Nekumata28> Please, remove any and all doubt.
- 28<Nekumata28> That is, indeed, how I think.
- 28<Nekumata28> Also you keep using ｨmaliciousｨ
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Comments like "yes I'm belittling you" show that intent
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> I have an idea to defend, and frankly I'm interested in knowing more about how people like you operate for future refreence. But I'm not doing anything out of malice
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> whereas you're making tons of stupid ass little comments like that
- 28<Nekumata28> ｨhow people like you operateｨ
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Oh, so it's okay when you do it?
- 28<Nekumata28> Okay, youｴll know how someone who doesnｴt take you seriously at all acts. Thatｴs good for future reference of when to quit ^^
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Yeah, because this is all because of you not taking me seriously, that must be it. That's exactly why my earlier jokes met with a ban that wasn't "entirley unjustified", and that I had to be ejected because I'm a member "Nobody likes".
- 19<2819PrincessOfTheCrystal> Look, you're completely inconsistant, you can't see it for a varietty of BS reasons, and I'm done with this sparring practice. Maybe you're just "Joking", whatever. But that's not an excuse for being vastly insensitive.
- 28<Nekumata28> Yeah, sure. You win the argument. A winner is you! Youｴre happy now, right?
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