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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [09:57:12] <pulsar> hi SathyaBhat
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [09:57:30] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: hi,
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:01:30] <_Garbage_> hi pulsar , QwertyM , SathyaBhat
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:01:45] <QwertyM> hi
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:01:49] <SathyaBhat> _Garbage_: Greets
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:01:51] <pulsar> hi _Garbage_
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:03:33] <pulsar> hi sykora
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:03:48] <sykora> hello
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:05:22] <_Garbage_> brb... dinner
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:05:27] <pulsar> _Garbage_: QwertyM SathyaBhat sykora we will start the main discussion at about 10:00 since I have given that time on the list. till then if people have something nice to discuss, we can start with it.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:05:31] <pulsar> _Garbage_: come back soon
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:06:01] <_Garbage_> pulsar: 10 min.s
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:06:05] <sykora> pulsar: how many people do you expect?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:06:55] <pulsar> sykora: I'd like atleast G0SUB, techno_freak and harshad to join in
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:07:08] <pulsar> will call up aditya and see if he can possibly come
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:07:19] <pulsar> err. aditya sengupta
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:07:47] <QwertyM> hiway isn't from mumbai?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:08:01] <pulsar> QwertyM: no. he's from _Garbage_'s village
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:09:51] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: Sengupta is coming ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:10:31] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: going to call him but I guess he won't be able to. he was supposed to be at granny's place, without internet.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:11:05] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: I see
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:18:16] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: he's at granny's place only so he can't come over
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:21:08] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: ah thats too ba
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:21:10] <SathyaBhat> bad*
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:22:43] <mehulved> someone replied me something?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:22:54] <mehulved> my pidgin's stuck again. damn that stupid thing.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:23:35] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: yes me
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:23:45] <mehulved> ok
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:23:53] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: using Pidgin ?
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:26:04] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: yeah was. on mibbit now.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:26:12] <mehulved> installing the trusted irssi now
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:26:42] <mehulved> don't want to install xchat or something since it's work machine, not mine.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:27:31] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: what distro/DE you using ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:27:37] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: fedora 10
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:27:47] <mehulved> gnome
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:28:00] <mehulved> my PC I use KDE these days
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:31:31] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: ok
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:35:29] <pulsar> dunno if others will be able to turn up tonight. I guess saturday night is a wrong choice :P
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:35:35] <pulsar> _Garbage_: you back?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:37:15] <_Garbage_> pulsar:
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:37:24] <_Garbage_> pulsar: brb on Pidgin
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:40:31] <pulsar> _Garbage_: QwertyM SathyaBhat sykora ok. you people have any suggestions for the group from your side first?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:40:50] <_Garbage_> ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:40:59] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: as of now, no lets see how this goes
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:41:17] <_Garbage_> pulsar: can you please explain a bit more? Bcoz I'm total noob
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:41:43] <pulsar> _Garbage_: we need to plan up for the group's objectives and plan of action.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:11] <pulsar> objective will cover what we want to do and plan of action will be how to go about it.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:17] <_Garbage_> will it be only abt Python
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:18] <_Garbage_> ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:22] <pulsar> yes
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:28] <_Garbage_> ok.. gr8
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:32] <pulsar> since it's a python user's group.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:42:47] <_Garbage_> USER only ? or learner ? ;)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:43:36] <_Garbage_> IMO, QwertyM knows Python
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:43:38] <pulsar> _Garbage_: anyone. learners, new programmers, seasoned programmers, gurus, curious people and all their dogs.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:43:40] <_Garbage_> and pulsar too
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:43:58] <_Garbage_> what abt Garbage ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:44:07] <pulsar> _Garbage_: nope. QwertyM and sykora
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:44:15] <pulsar> _Garbage_: no. stinky things not allowed.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:14] <pulsar> one of the points that I have put across to have podcasts, video tutorials, live streaming, slides, desktop recordings so as to benefit many members who are not in mumbai or cannot attend session for some reason
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:18] <pulsar> hi mayavi
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:29] <mayavi> hi mehul, sathya
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:36] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: Hi
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:43] <pulsar> mayavi: a quck introduction please.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:46:44] <_Garbage_> sorry... got DC
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:47:04] <pulsar> let me repeat since two of you missed it.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:47:04] <mayavi> ranjeet walunj -- learning python :-)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:47:06] <pulsar> one of the points that I have put across to have podcasts, video tutorials, live streaming, slides, desktop recordings so as to benefit many members who are not in mumbai or cannot attend session for some reason
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:47:27] <pulsar> mayavi: ah. you're ranjeet.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:48:13] <_Garbage_> hmm
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:48:23] <pulsar> of course all of the above is subject ot availability of infrastructure for the event.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:48:47] <pulsar> sykora: QwertyM could you guys work on stuff like podcasts and screencasts?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:49:09] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: ah ranjeet :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:49:36] <SathyaBhat> Disclaimer: I come to this room as a total new guy to python wanting to learn
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:49:37] <pulsar> _Garbage_: would you be able to get meeting place at TCS, GE, whatever once you reach here?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:50:14] <QwertyM> pulsar: on what topic?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:50:19] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: I haven't really learnt anything so far. except for 2 chapters. I dunno programming either.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:50:22] <_Garbage_> pulsar: will try
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:50:45] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: ah well then I'm not the only fellow who doesn't know programming
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:50:53] <pulsar> QwertyM: your pick. we could put this up on the mumpy site so people of all levels can use it.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:51:00] <_Garbage_> SathyaBhat: me too dunno Python
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:51:04] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: yes.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:51:45] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: you surely would know programming, part of your profession?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:52:21] <QwertyM> you can argue SQL is not totally a programming language but it does have those constructs and logic involved :p
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:52:33] <_Garbage_> :P
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:52:33] <mayavi> we need to also write small programs/utilities in python for janta .. and keep source codes open so that others can better/review it ...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:52:58] <QwertyM> you could get rsa_md5 there perhaps, he recently took a py workshop at his univ in manipal
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:52:58] <_Garbage_> QwertyM, sykora: man, I'm leaving Chennai in few days. Can we please arrange a short meeting ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:09] <mayavi> sql is programming language ;-) --- just bit more structured than others :-D
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:11] <SathyaBhat> QwertyM: yes, with PL/SQL its simple If/End For/Loop case/decode logic, nothing fancy like lists or even arrays
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:11] <QwertyM> _Garbage_: I'm free till monday, where? :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:25] <_Garbage_> QwertyM: m in Thoraipakkam
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:31] <_Garbage_> where u live ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:34] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: but those are mere columns of a database :p
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:45] <pulsar> _Garbage_: remember to keep a pole's distance from women.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:53:56] <pulsar> s/women/females/
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:54:10] <QwertyM> _Garbage_: sounds pretty damn far, can you make it to spencers?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:54:32] <_Garbage_> yeh sure...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:54:53] <SathyaBhat> QwertyM: Yes, thats my point. I don't/never worked on Arrays. Database programming means all the data and is at your disposal and you don't have to worry much about managing them.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:55:07] <pulsar> sykora:
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:55:08] <SathyaBhat> andyways we are going offtopic, to come back
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:55:20] <sykora> pulsar:
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:55:34] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: yes small progs would be nice, can help us understand better
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:57:13] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: the only thing you gotta learn would be data structures, you already know programming otherwise :-)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:57:21] <_Garbage_> pulsar: QwertyM and sykora are making podcasts ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:57:38] <QwertyM> _Garbage_: ok, monday?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:58:10] <_Garbage_> QwertyM: PM
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:58:57] <SathyaBhat> QwertyM: I can never seem to understand DS
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:59:01] <pulsar> hi juneboy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:59:16] <pulsar> sykora: you can add anything?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:59:20] <_Garbage_> hi juneboy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [10:59:28] <juneboy> hi to everyone
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:00:02] <sykora> pulsar: Like what? What do you want me to say? I can give everyone tonnes of links to resources, but I'm awfully short on time to come up with my own.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:01:02] <pulsar> sykora: ok. you can just help on the mailing list for sure.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:01:11] <sykora> which is...?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:01:35] <pulsar> sykora: groups.google.com/group/mumpy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:03:11] <pulsar> QwertyM: what was that you used in pidgin to teach me DS?
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:03:33] <_Garbage_> hi sushiX_
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:03:42] <pulsar> hi sushiX_ welcome. and introduce yourself please.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:03:56] <QwertyM> pulsar: doodle
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:15] <_Garbage_> Doodle ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:16] <pulsar> QwertyM: ah yes. that's supported only on yahoo?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:16] <QwertyM> hi juneboy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:31] <juneboy> hi QwertyM
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:33] <sykora> DS? Doodle?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:37] <QwertyM> pulsar: yes
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:04:50] <QwertyM> sykora: data structures, I was trying to teach him trees once
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:05:00] <sykora> ohk
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:05:19] <pulsar> sykora: DS was BS for me then. QwertyM explained me binary trees using doodle.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:06:13] <QwertyM> pulsar: doodle's a pretty famous thing, you must find some other site providing it perhaps
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:06:52] <pulsar> QwertyM: so if we have group doodle, we could use it too
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:07:21] <QwertyM> keep a whiteboard?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:07:58] <pulsar> QwertyM: how?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:08:14] <QwertyM> er you mean online?
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:08:39] <kc1n> hello everyone :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:08:44] <_Garbage_> hi kc1n
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:08:45] <QwertyM> hi kc1n
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:08:56] <pulsar> QwertyM: whatever people on the group can use.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:02] <_Garbage_> it would be gr8 if we can have a online whiteboard :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:07] <_Garbage_> perhaps a Wiki?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:16] <pulsar> _Garbage_: wiki isn't realtime
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:29] <pulsar> kc1n: hello. introduce yourself please.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:41] <_Garbage_> pulsar: then ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:09:44] <juneboy> how about twitter then?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:10:13] <pulsar> juneboy: we will use twitter. but not for online sessions. it doesn't suit then
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:10:21] <kc1n> hello myself raza sayed...from mumbai..i work at Geodesic....good to see a python group of Mumbai :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:10:41] <_Garbage_> pulsar: and most importantly, twitter is banned in my office :(
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:10:50] <sykora> pulsar: IRC is the best. There's nothing we do better than typing anyway.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:10:51] <juneboy> pulsar: ok
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:11:01] <SathyaBhat> IRC would be the best for sessiobs
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:11:13] <pulsar> _Garbage_: you won't see the changes happening as they occur on the wiki. you will have to refresh the page and also wiki takes lot of formatting
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:11:43] <pulsar> and then what I want to use whiteboard is to explain some concepts which cannot be explained in words so well. as we did with binary trees.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:11:45] <_Garbage_> ah...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:12:12] <QwertyM> can someone load doodlenow.com and check if its relevant? seems very slow here
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:12:25] <pulsar> kc1n: welcome. great to see you here. BTW, you know mrugesh?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:13:48] <juneboy> QwertyM: its slow here to, how come the site is taking such a long time to load?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:14:53] <pulsar> QwertyM: not a good site. it's not loading. seems it can't handle the load.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:15:04] <QwertyM> juneboy: must be overloaded flash or worse, java
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:15:04] <kc1n> pulsar: i recently joined the company...so still have to get to know many ppl over there
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:15:50] <mayavi> sorry ... was on phone ...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:16:01] <pulsar> kc1n: ah. ok. he's on the group too so I thought maybe you know him. anyways you will come across him sometime.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:16:32] <kc1n> pulsar: ok :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:16:34] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: harshad, BG aren't coming ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:16:44] <mayavi> i was saying if we write something for say facebook/twitter/orkut apps and make them opensource .... its a sure shot good idea to attract good programmers ...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:16:48] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: no idea. I hope they do.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:05] <_Garbage_> We can start coding for our own
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:13] <mayavi> i wrote something y'day night using php for twitter --- can someone help me to migrate it to python ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:25] <pulsar> mayavi: sure. that idea can be put across. but we will need people who can do it themselves.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:42] <mayavi> http://tf.mayavi.info/
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:45] <kc1n> mayavi: would be glad to work on that
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:17:48] <pulsar> mayavi: QwertyM and sykora are working on twitter app in python, they're a good bet for you.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:18:15] <SathyaBhat> what sort of programs I should try, would you guys suggest , to learn python better
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:18:19] <mayavi> yeah ... thats the idea .. i'm willing work on it to migrate to python ...
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:18:56] <QwertyM> mayavi: yeah its a few-liner with the twitter api :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:05] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: work on sykora's and QwertyM's python twitter app - chirp
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:08] <pulsar> hi sameep
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:17] <sameep> @pulsar : hi..
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:20] <sameep> how you doing?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:40] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: and QwertyM suggested me core python programming as the book to start with.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:45] <mayavi> yep ... it was easy with php too ... however i'm interested in writing it in python .. so that we can host it with google apps :-)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:19:47] <pulsar> sameep: fine.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:20:12] <sykora> pulsar: you doing a printed book, ebook?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:20:12] <QwertyM> hi sameep
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:20:39] <pulsar> sykora: was learning from e-book. but have stopped now.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:20:50] <QwertyM> hey cool, I got only 9 people not following me
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:21:05] <QwertyM> 5 of em l33t
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:21:48] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: which book ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:21:52] <mayavi> qwertym: thanks for checking .. shall we write that in python tonight and make it live tommorow along with sources ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:22:04] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: core python programming
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:22:26] <_Garbage_> pulsar: u have the book ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:22:56] <pulsar> _Garbage_: e-book
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:02] <QwertyM> mayavi: ok, but kc1n was willing first :-)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:04] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: link ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:15] <_Garbage_> pulsar: ah.. good
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:17] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: >> QwertyM
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:45] <mayavi> yeah ... sorry missed that :-) ... better would be ... let me write it tonight .. and will send code for your approvals by tommorow ...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:48] <QwertyM> should I email?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:23:54] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: your script is still running for me :P guess going through 600+ followers takes time :P
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:03] <mayavi> it will help me getting back to RTFM
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:07] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: yeah no short way :p
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:07] <SathyaBhat> QwertyM: will help
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:23] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: ok lemme find it, sec
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:38] <mayavi> sathya: thats a local machine with pretty less b/w + for some odd reasons twitter does not give me full friend/follower list in one go ...
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:24:51] <kc1n> Sathyabhat:u want reference for python ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:25:12] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: ah ok. 35 ppl not following me.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:25:15] <mayavi> sathya: so i need to make ceil((friends_count mod 100)) calls :-D
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:25:47] <SathyaBhat> mayavi: wow ceil is there in php
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:26:02] <SathyaBhat> I use ceil () in PL/SQL quite a lot
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:26:17] <SathyaBhat> kc1n: yes that would help
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:26:36] <mayavi> kc1n: pls sir :-D
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:27:00] <mayavi> sathya: mother has it ... so most of the influenced/children will have it :-)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:27:30] <kc1n> SathyaBhat: There is an excellent "free" ebook which was released by Swaroop CH called "Byte Of Python"...really nice book for python...ull can get it at http://www.swaroopch.com/notes/Python
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:27:48] <pulsar> sameep: kc1n mayavi juneboy kk1983 since you people have joined late, let me ask you. have you people got any suggestions/expectations that you'd like to discuss for the group?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:28:28] <pulsar> kk1983: hello. introduce yourself please.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:28:50] <sameep> no not really ..
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:28:57] <QwertyM> how does one search for with:attachments?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:29:08] <QwertyM> [gmail question]
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:29:24] <kc1n> same :)...just looking forward to a really active community :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:29:57] * mayavi thinking first IRC meetup is turning out really good ...n loving it ..
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:30:03] <pulsar> QwertyM: go to search options.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:30:14] <QwertyM> pulsar: I sent you 1st edition or second?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:30:24] <pulsar> QwertyM: both.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:30:30] <kk1983> Hello everybody! I am, rather, a Python newbie. I am primarily interested in learning about how people use it, thus, my purpose for joining.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:30:37] <SathyaBhat> kc1n: thanks I do refer to it
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:31:11] <kc1n> SathyaBhat: ur welcome
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:31:44] <QwertyM> pulsar: funny, I found only v1 in my inbox.. checking alternate sites :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:31:48] <pulsar> for one, we do need a wiki at mumpy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:31:48] <pulsar> and prolly a pastebin?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:31:50] <kc1n> i joined in late into the discussion...so just want to knowis there going to be any wiki for mumpy ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:02] <pulsar> QwertyM: prolly then I got v2 from someone else.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:02] <QwertyM> SathyaBhat: http://www.esnips.com/doc/354ac226-a0f6-4e2a-8529-7714542ad00a/Core-Python-Programming-2nd-Ed-by-Wesley-J.-Chun
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:03] <kk1983> A MumPy group, I believe, should have some people like http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/~prabhu/ on board.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:26] <QwertyM> worth all in hard copy
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:37] <pulsar> kc1n: that hasn't been discussed yet. but I am kind of sure that we will definitely have a wiki.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:52] <kc1n> pulsar: that would be great
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:56] <pulsar> kk1983: if you know such people. please invite them for sure.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:32:56] <SathyaBhat> QwertyM: thanks
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:33:00] <kk1983> So, just curious, what target applications, do some of you have in mind for Py. I always believed to favour numerical computing.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:33:23] <pulsar> kk1983: I will ask G0SUB to allow members to invite others to the group. I needed that to invite juneboy and others too
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:34:19] <kk1983> Thanks!
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:34:51] <pulsar> QwertyM: you maintaining logs of this?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:35:12] <QwertyM> pulsar: don't think so.. does irssi log by default?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:35:28] <QwertyM> nope.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:35:41] <pulsar> QwertyM: no
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:35:49] <pulsar> QwertyM: I think you can ask it to save.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:36:01] <pulsar> anyone else saving the logs? I am on mibbit. just installed irssi
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:36:11] * _Garbage_ asks Pidgin to save the log
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:36:29] <pulsar> _Garbage_: thanks.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:36:37] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: I'm on konversation, have the entire thing logged
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:37:22] <pulsar> _Garbage_: SathyaBhat one of you just pastebin it and forward it to G0SUB to upload it to the website and post the URL to the list.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:38:07] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: sure
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:38:37] <sameep> where are you planning to setup the wiki..
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:38:46] <sameep> i got web space if anyone needs it..
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:39:24] <SathyaBhat> pulsar: you want me to do it now or lateR ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:39:42] <pulsar> sameep: G0SUB has got space and has put up mumpy.org somewhere
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:39:50] <_Garbage_> pulsar: I got disconnected more times... I can't... sorry ! :(
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:39:54] <pulsar> SathyaBhat: after the meetup is over
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:39:55] <sameep> ok.. cool.. just offering
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:40:22] <pulsar> sameep: if we need, we'll surely ask you.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:40:28] <sameep> yup anytime..
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:40:48] <sameep> and the offer is open to anyone who needs it for their personal use aswell
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:41:02] <mehulved> finally irssi. let me quit from mibbit.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:42:20] <mehulved> we need physical locations for meet ups besides all these virtual things we planned.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:42:34] <mehulved> any of you know of places where we could organise meetups?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:42:43] <sykora> mehulved: Even if you meet physically, have an IRC session running for those who definitely won't make it
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:43:32] <mehulved> sykora: yes. live IRC and twitter will be on subject to availability of interne
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:43:39] <mehulved> s/interne/internet/
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:43:49] <mehulved> and also live streaming, if we can.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:43:54] <mayavi> guys a pretty basic questions: what do i need to do in my apache setup to allow running python ? what is cURL equivalent to be used ? or r there curl library available for python by default?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:44:41] <sameep> mod_python
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:44:44] <sykora> mayavi: PyCurl
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:44:57] <sykora> or rather PycURL
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:45:40] <_Garbage_> sykora: do we need any server for Python ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:45:51] <sykora> _Garbage_: ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:46:10] <juneboy> server in what sense?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:46:48] <sameep> i'll be back in ten mins
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:46:49] <mehulved> _Garbage_: for web apps we need an http server. not for desktop apps
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:46:51] <SathyaBhat> _Garbage_: for python programs ? no you'd need python interpretr
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:11] <_Garbage_> sykora: can we build websites in Python ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:28] <mehulved> _Garbage_: yes. of course.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:31] <sykora> _Garbage_: yes, but generally not as easily as you can in php
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:39] <mehulved> _Garbage_: there's already many.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:44] <_Garbage_> hmmm
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:47] <sykora> _Garbage_: see django, plone, zope, cherrypy, etc
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:57] <mehulved> _Garbage_: check plone,
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:47:58] <sykora> nice names, imo
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:48:21] <mehulved> moinmoin
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:48:31] <kc1n> syskora: thats interesting
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:49:08] <mehulved> kc1n: you could use tab completion. most irc clients support it. press initial letter or two and tab to complete the nick
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:49:34] <kc1n> mehulved: thanks :)
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:49:56] <mehulved> sykora: QwertyM isn't trac in python too?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:50:06] <QwertyM> yep
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:50:30] <mehulved> _Garbage_: there you go. lots of popular frameworks and apps.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:50:51] <mehulved> _Garbage_: psst. QwertyM is working on a secret blogging engine in python.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:51:21] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: spelling fail :P
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:51:21] <QwertyM> wtf engine? no, just a django app like every other starter :s
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:52:34] <mehulved> ok. let's get back to the mumpy discussions
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:52:36] <sykora> a blogging app is the new hello world of web apps
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:53:07] <mayavi> is python as good as php (rapid developement) for web stuff ? is python as good as perl for my sys admin needs ?
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:55:24] <sykora> no, python is not as good as php for web dev, probably not as good as perl for sysadmin stuff
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:55:46] <sykora> it can't hold a candle to C/C++ for number crunching
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:56:12] <sykora> but it can do _all_ of these things pretty well
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:57:22] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [11:58:08] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: sorry it was chetthakkar addressing you, not the other way around.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:00:18] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: I'm still confused!
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:00:37] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: nvm. it was something from twitter.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:00:59] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: ah. havent checked it
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:01:34] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: for one, your blog would be useful to us for promoting podcasts and stuff that we will hold on mumpy
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:05:03] <mehulved> QwertyM: you could have screencasts of some of those stuff you have on your blog.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:06:03] <SathyaBhat> mehulved: sure, what can I do, how can I do so ? a post mentioning MumPy for start ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:06:55] <SathyaBhat> I have to go
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:07:09] <SathyaBhat> will be logged in here so the logs will still be recorded
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:07:10] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: just rely on your judgement. that's what got your blog going.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:07:36] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: we'll finish now. poeple are quitting anyways. I am tired too and feel like going out for a while.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:07:47] <mehulved> and no real point coming in.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:08:14] <mehulved> SathyaBhat: if you feel like it. you can announce about the group after we get the rules and website and stuff in place a bit later.
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[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:11:36] <mayavi> r we calling end of days play ?
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:12:42] <mehulved> mayavi: yes.
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:13:33] <Sathyabhat|away> mehulved: alright
[Sat Feb 7 2009] [12:15:19] <mayavi> ok .. thanks to all ..